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Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:21pm On Feb 26, 2018
you are to slow see you tomorrow
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:16pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
exactly! FG banning Hockey for instance means they banned sports

because Hockey is a type of sport doesn't alter that fact
there are many types of lies but they are all lies

there are many types of sports but they are not all hockey
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 3:15pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Honestly, I'm surprised this is proving too hard for you to grasp

My Girlfriend asks me "HopefulLandlord, have you eaten today?" I replied "No! Amy" even though I've actually eaten and I infact just ate an hour before she asked me the question

Johnw74, Is what I just did called lying? Yes/No

Is what I just did "bearing False witness/testimony" against my neighbor? Yes/No?
ha ha, your the one struggling
how does your riddle disprove the OP being right about the 10 commandments prohibiting lying
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:59pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
exactly! FG banning Hockey for instance means they banned sports

because Hockey is a type of sport doesn't alter that fact
no you are getting even more confused now, those childish riddles

false witness which is lying is banned, false witness is banned, lying is banned

but hockey isn't all sports, so not all sports are banned, just hockey
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:48pm On Feb 26, 2018
lying in general isn't mentioned in the 10 commandments
is that what you meant? smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:43pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
"Bearing false witness" is, simply put, a type of lie but one can easily lie without bearing false witness
see once again, the OP was right, lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments,
because it's a certain type of lie doesn't alter that fact
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:27pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Olaadegbu asserted in the OP that "lying" is prohibited in the "10 commandments"
he was right, lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments:

Exo_20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

^^^ you must think that's not lying
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:26pm On Feb 26, 2018
^^^ blind as a bat
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 2:15pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
its good to know that the ten commandments are written in the book of proverbs
hopefulLandlord:
its good to know that the ten commandments are written in the book of proverbs

I hope - for your sake - you're just being dishonest
your false accusation doesn't surprise

lying lips are abomination to the lord certinally does equals thou shalt not lie

is as truthful as can be, it doesn't surprise me you can't see it
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 1:56pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Bros I would prefer your following a discussion and not muddle things up to fit your preconceived notions

1. Olaadegbu asserted in the OP that "lying" is prohibited in the "10 commandments"

2. Seun challenged that claim by asking where it is prohibited

3. The number 9th commandment was given as the answer

4. Seun challenged that claim by explaining - clearly - why it doesn't prohibit lying but a specific type of lying

if you have to bring proverbs and Revelation into it then you've tacitly admitted lying is not prohibited in the ten commandments! If Olaadegbu had said "The bible is against lying" then your explanations would've jived


Let me give you an example

My Girlfriend asks me "HopefulLandlord, have you eaten today?" I replied "No! Amy" even though I've actually eaten and I infact just ate an hour before she asked me the question

Johnw74, Did I lie? Yes/No?

Did I bear "False witness/testimony" against my neighbor? Yes/No?
please save your riddles for children

lying lips are abomination to the lord = thou shalt not lie

Pro_12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD:
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 1:37pm On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
The 10 commandments are written in the book of revelationshuh

Se.un is asking where lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments as asserted by Olaadegbu in the OP
hopefulLandlord:
Which is exactly Se.un's point!

"Bearing false witness" is, simply put, a type of lie but one can easily lie without bearing false witness
If the federal government Bans Hockey in Nigeria, it doesn't mean the government banned "Sports" as one can still partake in many other sports without playing Hockey and it would be perfectly legal. that's because Hockey is just type of sport

FG's ban on Gay marriage doesn't mean they're banning marriage as a whole but rather banning a specific type of marriage

I think Olaadegbu saying lying is prohibited in the 10 commandments is definitely not true
God commanded: not to bear false witness against thy neighbour
of course this means not to bear untruthful testimony against thy neighbour, not to lie against thy neighbour

the commandment only mentions lying agains thy neighbour, but when you take in the very many verses in the Bible against lying, it is true that we are not to lie any lie at all

solomon said lying lips are an abomination to the Lord

so what makes sense here:

lying lips are an abomination to the lord, thou shalt not lie

or:

lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but there is only one lie thou shalt not do



Exo_20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Pro_12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD:
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 10:58am On Feb 26, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
No need getting upset just because you couldn't answer a simple question
DeSepiero:
smiley

Try to look for bible verses where Satan lied. Don't try to start trading insults. Can't you find any?
ha ha, the swine get no more pearls
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 10:37am On Feb 26, 2018
DeSepiero:
smiley

You couldn't show where Satan lied in the bible yet you call him father of liars.

Poor bible dummy.
i didn't know you were a young girl
i didn't mean to make you cry
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 10:26am On Feb 26, 2018
DeSepiero:
You failed!!

Don't you get it? John only said that Satan is a liar in that verse. How did John know that Satan is a liar? What made him to say it?

Provide the verses where Satan actually lied.
you don't believe the verses i have posted
you don't believe Jesus
and you want me to post verses to prove something to you

you man are nutso
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 9:12am On Feb 26, 2018
DeSepiero:
If Satan is father of lies, highlight at least 3 bible verses where he lied.
so you don't believe Jesus words, to bad for you

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 7:25am On Feb 26, 2018
DeSepiero:
That was John talking not God
It was Jesus talking, John wrote it down:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

also concerning God's word the Bible:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Sa 23:2 The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.

Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Act 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 11:38pm On Feb 25, 2018
DeSepiero:
The bible verses you quoted are apparently the opinions of King Solomon, John and Apostle Paul.

Why do you think Satan is father of lies? Because John 8:44 suggests say's so? How did Satan lie in the beginning because I'm not sure he did.
Yes i do believe God's word
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by johnw74: 6:07am On Feb 25, 2018
solite3:
U like somebody who says they don't eat cow meat but beef.
smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 5:56am On Feb 25, 2018
profolaolu:
Rehab was commended not because she lied but because she hide the spies and sent them away,that is why she was justify by work not by the word of her mouth or confession
yes rahab was justified for her works because her works showed her faith
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Anything Like "A Righteous Lie"? by johnw74: 5:46am On Feb 25, 2018
the commandment only mentioned lying against other people
but other Bible verses show that all lies are bad:

Pro_12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Pro_19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

Rev_21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Rev_22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.



God cannot lie, ... satan is the father of lies



God cannot lie:
Tit_1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Heb_6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:




satan is the father of lies:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Seriously Confused... Was Jesus Hanged Or Crucified???? by johnw74: 11:55pm On Feb 22, 2018
Act 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew(diacheirizomai) and hanged on a tree(xulon)

they slew Jesus, violently bashing and whipping Him
then they hung Him on a post - cross, using nails, and speared Him in the side to hasten His death

slew - (iacheirizomai)
to handle thoroughly, that is, lay violent hands upon


tree - (xulon)
timber as fuel or material; by implication a stick, club or tree or other wooden article or substance: - staff, stocks, tree, wood.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 11:13pm On Feb 21, 2018
MrPresident1:
Where are the watchers ooo?
they are not watching false prophets, mumbo jumbo teachers:

MrPresident1:
Have you watched Black Panthers yet?

THOSE MEN ARE COMING, THEY ARE CALLED CHRIST!

THEY HAVE RISEN FROM THE DEAD.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is The Codename For The Leadership Of The Black Race by johnw74: 12:13am On Feb 20, 2018
MrPresident1:
Chairman, na that point your system hang put since all this time? lol.

Knowledge left that point long long time ago grin
pres1, your false prophecies of long long time ago
are still false prophecies today and forever

just one of very many:

MrPresident1:
My brother you heard COMPLETELY WRONG. I did not say Christ will come next month, I said Christ will come any moment between now and 20th January 2017, any moment between now and then. Read the thread above wink
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74:
MrPresident1:
Jesus is the SUN of God.
Jesus is the Son of God but you love your damable heresies
concerning you pres1:

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

you deny the Lord that bought you, by preaching another jesus, the sungod jesus
the sungod was first thought up by nimrod and became worldwide in many religions
the sungod as in all false god's is of course satan
you along with most people of the world worship satan in one form or another
after all he is the god of this world:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

he has blinded your mind so as you worship him, the sungod, the sun of god
oh blinded one

Jesus is likened to the sun in brightness
He is not the sun
He is the Son, duh

but of course changing God's word is what satan and his children do

Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

i for just one, have used God's word to show you to be a liar many many times
which you had no reply to, but you continue on in the glory of your heresies

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74:
MrPresident1:
Acts 1:9-11
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

A cloud received him out of their sight.

A cloud received the Sun of God from their sight, then two angels told them that as he was taken up into heaven so shall he come in like manner.

Jesus is the SUN of God.
Jesus is the Son of God

Mat_22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scripture, nor the power of God.

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 1:17am On Feb 19, 2018
MrPresident1:
They will also no longer be able to function, because they will not be able to function in the corrected polarity of the sun which will usher in an era of everlasting righteousness.
the sun - (sungod) ushers in everlasting righteousness ha ha
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74:
MrPresident1:
Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

As the coming of the lightning from east and shines to the west, so shall the coming of the son of man be. What light shines from the east and continues to the west?
Matthew 24:27 is describing the future coming of the Lord Jesus Christ as lightning which moves through the sky,
the sun shines continuesly, and it doesn't move through the sky, the earth rotates
Jesus will be seen some day coming in His glory like lightning, travelling around the earth from east to west
every eye shall see Him. But the sun is seen every day
duh duh oh sun worshipper
Christianity EtcRe: How Do I Know If The Words Am Hearing In My Head Is From God? by johnw74:
a person hearing voices in his head perhaps needs to go to his local doctor who can then refer him to someone specialising with that specific problem
there is no need to feel uncomfortable about seeking improvemeny for your health

try praying to God in the quiteness of your mind
answers from God will also be quiet, not loud and not many voices, just one
God can answer in many ways, through thought, through something happening etc

being quiet you can distinguish between God's voice and others that shouldn't be there

Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

closet(a quiet place-your mind)
Christianity EtcRe: How Do I Know If The Words Am Hearing In My Head Is From God? by johnw74: 1:26am On Feb 16, 2018
Frankicent:
You stupid dick... You'll be schizophrenic.. Cunt.
you are not hearing from God
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 1:09am On Feb 15, 2018
MrPresident1:
The god of this world is the whiteman
pres1 you have been blinded by your god - the god of this world
and you have no knowledge of the scriptures at all

2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74:
MrPresident1:
The Lamb of God, our Lord and Master Jesus Christ has opened the book, and continuously is making us to understand its contents, but the devils have gone mad grin

Jesus will be revealed in the clouds of heaven, the GREAT PRINCIPALITY HIMSELF, THE LORD AND MASTER OF ALL, he is coming shortly in the clouds of heaven

You can never understand John grin

Collosians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
MrPresident1:
Jesus was speaking to the people who did not understand him and who were misquoting him. I am speaking to you because you represent that generation, a brood of vipers who do not seek knowledge.

Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Paul warned you, he told you not to be conceited, darkness in part has happened to Israel so that the fullness of the gentiles may come in; the original Israel is blinded in part, so that gentiles like you can have access to salvation.

The fullness of the gentiles have come, and Christ will be revealed shortly in the clouds of heaven, HIS IDEOLOGY WILL REIGN FOREVER.

John, you can never understand grin
just continued off topic to what i said, nonsense from you pres 1
because that's all you have
and with no understanding of the Bible verses you post at all, of course


pres1 Personal text: "I am an ancient Israelite of the House of David."
really, smile .... surely you couldn't be more than 100 years old or so, duh
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 11:05pm On Feb 14, 2018
MrPresident1:
The clouds are gathered over heaven, in them will Christ be revealed.

Now I am playing with you because you can never ever understand grin
a off topic reply because you have no answers
keep on playing pres1 you can't do anything else

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