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Scholar8200:
Are you implying then that it's up to each man to develop his own set of moral actions? Afterall we all have an intellect.

Teempakguy:
dark matter is simply gravity from an invisible source. Imagine if the earth was invisible. Yet, it radiates gravity.

malvisguy212:
is a prophecy which Jesus fullfiled in luke 4;

Luke 4:17-21
17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,to set the oppressed free,
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to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”[f]
20
Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it
back to the attendant and sat down. The
eyes of everyone in the synagogue were
fastened on him. 21 He began by saying
to them, “TODAY THIS SCRIPTURE IS FULFILLED IN YOUR HEARING .”

Scholar8200:
Question for thought: By what standard is morality to be gauged? Individual conscience? (the world becomes literal hell!) or what?( said you were done hence you dont need to answer but since you emphasize morals in your reply, you will do well to vouchsafe us a response)

Scholar8200:
Yes, in fact this buttresses my point that they are in expectation of the Messiah to restore all things and so for now, my guess is that they perceive that the law can only be fully enforced afterwards. Judaism as we know it consists of the OT watered down many traditions introduced by the elders and the Pharisees/Rabbis: these additions was what blinded them to the Messiah's first coming
Besides, Jesus and His apostles (author of the Epistles) were all Jews! The rejection by a percentage of Israel and their current state etc was clearly analysed by one of them (a Jew) in the Epistles.

For a battle hardened nation that appears proud of their heritage, I dont think their restraint is as a result of fear of being called terrorists!

Scholar8200:
Alright. The present day Israelites and present day Islamic fundamentalists can be used as a sample for that which history does not reveal. The last people that will give a hoot on being called terrorists are the Israelites; their stance at present is not as a result of fear of being labelled terrorist;there is another reason.

Besides, just as it happened in the 400 years inter-testament period, the expectation of modern day Israel is the coming of the Messiah and restoration of all things. For now, it's a battle to survive while the dispensation lasts. Those who recognise the Messiah know that we are no longer under the OT and that the outlook of the NT is different

Need i remind you that isreali now is mainly a judaic country. .

75% of modern day isrealis practise Judaism. in fact only 2% practise Orthodox Christianity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel

And most Judaic people regard Jesus as another case out of the 21 cases of messiah claims they have witness through out history, so they don't buy you belief of jesus relieving you of the law.
so unlike you, they have no belief in jesus or even have the new testament in their scriptures. . . they pretty much still believe they are under the law. . . so the reason why they don't employ these laws now is because they don't want to enter the 21st century list of terrorist groups just like not every muslim heeds to the barbaric charges in the koran

Scholar8200:
If the law is barbaric, is the act being condemned not even more barbaric? An Israelite wants to go after an idol that.among other things, commands you to burn your kids in sacrifice, engage in multiple orgies openly as a way of seeking for fertility of the land etc Why? a law that prescribes a tap-in-the-wrist punishment for such must be an encouragement in disguise!

Besides, just as it happened in the 400 years inter-testament period, the expectation of modern day Israel is the coming of the Messiah and restoration of all things. For now, it's a battle to survive while the dispensation lasts. Those who recognise the Messiah know that we are no longer under the OT and that the outlook of the NT is different

Scholar8200:
Moral principles to abide by which was read openly to the same people and they gave their word for implicit obedience?! Why? how do you see a commitment? Remember that the people in question were told the details of what they were about to consent to. Besides, how many times do we find the Israelites executing this? And, do they go about today like the terrorists do?

AnyibestDede:
And what for? Somethings are better left the way they are

dalaman:
The way some of them just go about saying things as if some of us don't have access to the bible.

You know i opened this thread because of the barbaric islamic sharia law we are witnessing in the north, i don't quite like bringing up all the barbaric similar bible laws because am not quite in the mood to start replying mostly copy and paste from answeringgenesis.org and gotquestion.com.


e.g: If your bride is not a virgin and you find out, report her to the assembly and if she cant provide proof of her virginity, she will be stoned to death(Deut 22:13-22). . .
Biblical morality is epic

crusadistic:
you didn't answer the question both murder and blasphemy are sins to him,why can't you apply your same logic to that of murder so why doesn't Allah kill murderers himself?

dalaman:
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

"Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death". (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Scholar8200:
The two highlighted contradict. The one said you are not interested in reasons while the other gives a perceived reason.

I think i made it clear that on my first paragraph i was referring to my discussion with malvisguy

and the second

i was addressing your last paragraph in bolded. . .Maybe you chose not to discern when a post is addressing two independent analogies

crusadistic:
you said why doesnt Allah(SWT) kill them himself,you should also ask why He doesn't kill murderers and the rest himself

Scholar8200:
To start with, the action is not justifiable. However, the unfortunate ones belong to the same society that nearly attacked other religions that kicked when they adopted the Shar'ia code. We ,therefore, should learn to abide by the rules of the community where we find ourselves.

Digression: God commanded the Israelites to destroy some nations guilty of vile abominations of the deepest dye. God also allowed other nations (Babylon, Assyria etc) to waste Israel exceedingly when Israel went into the same abominations. Both group had a time of benefit, an injury period with warnings but at the appropriate time judgement was executed. This is His style of Justice and somehow, it's better than if He had to do it Himself: Ante-deluvian world,Sodom and Pompeii can explain better.

Besides, the commands given then were not in the same class as moral obligations and faith; meaning they were not meant to be passed down.(this has a spiritual perspective now).

Conversely, the battles perpetrated by some radical Muslims (though some disclaim them) appears to suggest that they will never go wrong i.e. It presents a perspective and style absolutely foreign to that we find in the Bible.

Kay17:
What if this meaning of morality, is not a meaning which everyone shares with you; would I be justified to say it is your own morality?

Ubenedictus:
story story!

You can read up on the bakery that was fined heavily for refusing o bake for a homosexual couple.

If you are a judge then you must be ready to wed a homo couple, if not kiss your job goodbye.

People were saying this is just about two people in their bedroom, but that is nonesense. It is a societal issue that involves the total redefination of marriage and what it entails.

The judge who legalised it said that marriage is the institution made so that humans will not be lonely in old age. That spurious redefinition leaves the door open for bestiality. Because the aim of marriage has been redefined to mean just not be lonely.

crusadistic:
so He should come down from heaven with a sword and kill them himself

AbuMaryam1:
Someone will come and Say some part of the is going to ISIS, black belle.

sainty2k3:
Nice move, however, he's doing this becuae he is so sure of rebuilding that wealth within a short period of time

Ubenedictus:
actually this is a load of crap we were told to enable us accept the bitter pie.

In America today, if you own a bakery and refuse to bake for an Homosexual couples marriage, you'll be sued for discrimination, if you are a wedding planner and refuse to plan a wedding for homosexuals you could be sued and you'll pay huge fines!

That is the simple truth so what those guys decide to do actually affect others.

ilovelikes:
Ftc dey pain ooo

Rilwayne001:
NO, it is not justifiable.

crusadistic:
YES,it is justifiable

malvisguy212:
can you provide the verse?

KingEbukasBlog:
johnydon22 ... mi bro how market

pls explain how this is fake

Comments and op say they've known him for years

*grabs popcorn*

Sorry i don't need to explain staged street shows

They have known him for years roaming the street and he is dressed as neatly as i see on the pic. . Habaaa

Biko stop mentioning me on nonsensical posts Just reading the front page comments of the thread already shows that 80% of people here (mostly Christians) don't even believe it. so i advice you take it up with them cus they have already done a better job at refuting the show

I over estimated you bro, thought you were less gullible

malvisguy212:
both the quran and bible indicate Jesus is the ONLY man whom God spirit is upon, NO other prophet is given this title.