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Science/Technology › Re: What Distinguishes Humans From Other Animals? by johnydon22(m): 9:25am On Jul 04, 2015
RobinHez:
johnydon22 i'll like to be like u when i grow up o....cool
Am not grown up yet, you may even be older than me bro. ..lwkmd
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Sharia Death Sentence On Kano 9, Is This Right? by johnydon22(op): 9:22am On Jul 04, 2015
NumberOne3:
So where does morality come in when a woman kills a baby (abortion)? What is the justification to kill?
I can understand medical complications to save the mothers life. However, how does an the death of an unwanted or untimed baby who poses no threat in your words
- reduces human suffering or betters societal wellbeing
- equality, justice, survival and freedom?

Ok just to be fair i don't understand your question, reconstruct it, this time make it more comprehendible
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 1:47am On Jul 04, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Lol ... so can you prove the universe "exists on its own" ?
Hahahahahahaha i have not postulated a negate, so how can i prove what i did not assert, i boomeranged your argument to show you the absurdity cheesy. . many hypothesis have been tendered; multiverse, parallel universe and stuff still remains hypothesis and in this case i have always maintained i don't know. . how can i prove what i did not assert..

You falsely accused me of relating the nature of God to gravity when I did
not .
For the last time , the question is : what accounts for the nature of air ,
gravity , matter etc. Why are some seen and some are not? If you cant
answer simply ignore the question and move on
Again i defined those phenomenons which clearly depicted the difference in their nature, you may as well go back and look it up again.

There's further maths but a cool kid knows simple math - 1+1 =2
Lmao. . . simply means that god is comprehendible then. . .
If it is comprehendible then it can be known and scrutinized from human perception

but since it cannot be known as you argued there is no way you can know because even the simplest knowledge of what supposedly should be unknowable kills the unknowable feature and makes it knowable in the least sense. . .so you may as well rephrase your words by saying "god is comprehendible thats why i have simple knowledge it" you can't eat your cake and have it wink

Energy popped out from nothing , became immutable ... seen as science
and not magic
Me : ok
That part you should take up with those that makes the assertion cool

So as clearly implied - atheism is a religion cool
Yeah just like OFF is a t.v channel cheesy hahahahaha

modern people like me still stick to it .Time has no effect on its spiritual
importance
Hahahahaha the results are obvious grin

Because someone says so doesn't mean is so
@ bold -- please dont drag me into your mess .
Because you see it as crap/absurd doesnt mean its crap/absurd
That illusion of knowledge remains plain illusion or fairly put a claim until proven otherwise which so well looks impossible to prove thats why you need faith to believe the absurdities you were fed. cheesy
Science/Technology › Re: What Distinguishes Humans From Other Animals? by johnydon22(m): 1:13am On Jul 04, 2015
Teempakguy:
impressive analysis.
This night crawler, you are still awake grin
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 12:59am On Jul 04, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
God's existence , or more clearly the "origin" of God's existence or much more clearly the fact is He has always existed.
Since you are now failing in your own argument by asserting something can actually always exist infinitely, why then insist the universe must require a creator then. . . If nothing can exist on its own then god cant exist on its own therefore must also have had a creator, but if god can exist on its own shows something can actually exist on its own therefore one can as well rightly say the universe exists on its own therefore voila, needs no creator fairy cheesy

I never did so . I just wanted you guys to explain the reason for the difference in the nature or air ,gravity and physical bodies . What accounts for their nature .
And then again i gave definitions of the subjects to explain the distinctions in their nature, it was the correct method after all it would seem
My simple understanding of who God is made me say so .
The hilarious part is that this is coming from someone who says god cannot be comprehended by human mind then again turns back and claims simple understanding for the same thing that he says cannot be comprehended. . is that not another failing in your own words?


Its not magic because God himself is the most supernatural or the ultimate
Who then pops everything out of nothing by saying some words. . That still sounds like Magicwink
if there was no bible , you guys will also complain and ask why our God did not leave us with any sort of guidance to prepare us for His morning.
There are many religions that don't have holy books, yours would have just been one of that, and you don't see atheists asking them to provide a book. . do you?
Primitive? Your opinion?
Lol its obvious, this is the 21st century nwannem

If you dont know , why deny a cause or power responsible for it undecided
Hahahaha when another person that doesn't know assumes up this explanation and calls my disbelief of absurd explanations denial?

I don't know, same with you and you wouldn't expect me to swallow any absurd crap you come up with when even you can not demonstrate how it is ascertained or plausible. .Thats funny don't you thinkcheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 12:27am On Jul 04, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Your way of reasoning for the explanation of the existence of material/non-material things that make up life shouldnt/isnt used to explain God's . God is way different from those . Maybe people the way people practice religion gave you a different perception of who God is
Humans are material entities in a material world which in turn is in a material universe, our perception is based on our cognition of the material.
You yourself also asserted that god is above human comprehension which then disqualifies you from mentioning any attributes or even bringing up the analogy that there is one because once it is established as you have said that is is above human comprehension there is no way you would have known and basically when you(material) start explaining things you agree is beyond your comprehension, there is only one name for your explanation "ASSUMPTIONS"


Honestly , I dont get why you brought the explanations of the examples I gave and I never said gravity is an object . Let me explain my question . What accounts for the disparities in their nature . Why are some seen and why are some felt ? Its a deep question . I can quickly say God did it , but what can you say ?
You mentioned gravity so as to liken it to the nature of god as something that cannot be seen but felt, we are familiar with that line of argument. then i pointed out to you that gravity can be measured, observed and demonstrated, something that can be measured and demonstrated cannot be termed elusive, so the gravity analogy fails to depict that which you hoped for.…

@Bolded, well i suppose you can say that (which you have been) and i can quickly as well say "I don't believe you, prove it"


Johnny , should I always explain my statement ( huh. Ok , God's power made physical or brought to existence- matter , gasses , energy , etc
Thats basically magic as you rightly put since god's power is not material but are sourced from his words(which is synonymous to nothing)


Lol

I know but you just dont see it the way we do
No you don't, you weren't there, you only claim to because you read what the jews wrote just like millions of other people out there have their own claim of how it started. yet have always failed to substantiate it by showing us your method of ascertaining this knowledge and demonstrating to us how it was arrived at not quoting some primitive ancient book wink
but do you know the origin of the universe? cool
No i don't, i opened my eyes after not before the universe, so [size=20]i don't know the origin of the universe cool [/size]
Science/Technology › Re: What Distinguishes Humans From Other Animals? by johnydon22(m): 12:04am On Jul 04, 2015
RobinHez:
There's no consensus on the question of what makes us special, or whether we even are. The biggest point of contention is whether our cognitive abilities differ from those of other animals "in kind," or merely in degree. Are we in a class by ourselves or just the smartest ones in our class?
Charles Darwin supported the latter hypothesis. He believed we are similar to animals, and merely incrementally more intelligent as a result of our higher evolution. But according to Marc Hauser, director of the cognitive evolution lab at Harvard University, in a recent article in Scientific American, "mounting evidence indicates that, in contrast to Darwin's theory of a continuity of mind between humans and other species, a profound gap separates our intellect from the animal kind."

1. Generative computation

Humans can generate a practically limitless variety of words and concepts. We do so through two modes of operation recursive and combinatorial. The recursive operation allows us to apply a learned rule to create new expressions. In combinatorial operations, we mix different learned elements to create a new concept.

2. Promiscuous combination of ideas

"Promiscuous combination of ideas," Hauser explained, "allows the mingling of different domains of knowledge such as art, sex, space, causality and friendship thereby generating new laws, social relationships and technologies."

3. Mental symbols

Mental symbols are our way of encoding sensory experiences. They form the basis of our complex systems of language and communication. We may choose to keep our mental symbols to ourselves, or represent them to others using words or pictures.

4. Abstract thought

Abstract thought is the contemplation of things beyond what we can sense.

"This is not to say that our mental faculties sprang fully formed out of nowhere," Hauser wrote. "Researchers have found some of the building blocks of human cognition in other species. But these building blocks make up only the cement foot print of the skyscraper that is the human mind. The evolutionary origins of our cognitive abilities thus remain rather hazy. Clarity is emerging from novel insights and experimental technologies, however."

source: http://www.livescience.com/33376-humans-other-animals-distinguishing-mental-abilities.html
[b]I think just like different classes of animals differ drastically in intellect and cognitive ability, it is right to say humans tower above them all in intellect.

The intellective capability of a goat differs drastically with that of a monkey. . Humans just show a more refined and defined attributes which maybe said are shared by others animals too.

E.g:Language, a mode of communication. it is still okay to point out that humans are not the only ones to possess this ability because other animals too possess their own methods of communication and rightly language. Don't you think the postulation that humans are the only animals with the ability of a limitless word treasure is just a human perception because first we have no idea what animals are saying when they communicate how then can we know if they invent new communicative concepts or not.
For what we know they might just be seeing our own communicative method just exactly the way we see theirs.


Again the idea of creating new laws and societal relationships are also traits that can be found in other animals.
Chimps are known to ostracize a member of the pack who kills another or does something against the pack, penguins are known to mate for life while Gauls can kill a partner for cheating.
Things like arts, technologies too are also depicted in this case from the human point of view. . A bird can build a nest so precisely that it marvels us sometimes, that too is also a highly defined art supposing humans are the ones that achieved this feat and again it should also be clear that for a bird to build a nest shows that it possess the technological know how on how to go about it because you can agree with me that it involves accurate measurement and architectural wizardry.

So you see, we compare our abilities with other animals based on our own perception and not theirs.

A nairalander once asked me on BBM: "why is it that when a human kills another human it is a problem but when he kills a chimpanzee it is not a problem, does it mean that humans are more valuable than chimps?"

my reply was: I think value in this case is subjective because when you reverse the equation you will see that when a chimp kills another chimp other chimps care and its a big problem but when a chimp kills a human other chimp don't even care about that showing that to them also their own kind is more important and valuable than others.

Humans share many things in common with other animals, but just like the intellect of every animal differs so too is the human intellect distinguished from others which i think makes us think ourselves more unique and better
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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by johnydon22(m): 11:35pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
Still dnt understand you, is that the only thing the scriptures said about them? And how christians should handle such issues?

You asked for the bible said on how to handle homosexuals, i gave you exactly what you want by quoting leviticus 20:13 even romans 1:32 agree they deserve death. . .so if you want to carry out the biblical instructions on this, it is very clear what you should be doing to them.

Since obviously you don't want to or cannot follow the biblical instructions on this regard, why don't you then just leave them alone to live their lives while you live yours.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 11:32pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Ingredients from where ?

Where do matter, gases come from?

Can something come from nothing? (Isn't that magic?) ... where does that emptiness or nothingness you just imagined come from huh What caused nothing to bring forth something?
Actually the reverse is quite the case. . .You believe that god wasn't created by anything (came of out nothing) thereby failing in your own argument. . . then he creates everything by saying the words and those things poops out of nothing, i think that is were magic lies. . Words(basically nothing because its not a material) brings forth material entities, imagine the absurdity. . . You accused him of dabbling into asserting something came from nothing then you yourself is blatantly more guilty of that blunder
Why can we see the sun , moon , stars , heavenly bodies but not air . Why can we feel or experience some(gravity) but can't see it? Why are there disparities in their nature ?
Stars, moons, sun are objects more so are luminous or non-luminous light reflectors as in the case of the moon. . Am sure you know how images are formed in the retina, it deals with light.

Gravity is a force not an object. . . and is measurable, demonstrate-able and limited in our atmosphere.



A part of mormon cosmology made me understand this - God made the non-physical or spiritual physical by His word.
And again the same you asserted god cannot be comprehended by human mind then you go ahead and buy the analogy postulated by a HUMAN about god, isn't that failing in your own words.
again god created this non-physical by his WORD(nothing in fact) there fore failing again in your argument of something coming out of nothing.

When faced with the question of the origin of the earth or universe, isn't it just better you say [size=20]I don't know[/size] than resorting to assumptions
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by johnydon22(m): 11:15pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
Dnt understand you.
then read the post again, slowly this time
Politics › Re: We Are Winning War Against Boko Haram‎ – Buhari by johnydon22(m): 9:47pm On Jul 03, 2015
ellabooz:
Prosperity must surely judge Tinubu for roping us into this mess.

Thank God Tinubu is alive and getting his share of change.

All say Change

BABA ONE CHANCE
Yes my dear posteritywink will judge tinibu for dragging you into it. . . But you shouldn't have allowed yourself to be dragged into it in the first place tho
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by johnydon22(m): 9:20pm On Jul 03, 2015
dolphinheart:
What does the bible say about men who lie with men ?.
?
Leviticus 20:13
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman,
both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.



Ok bro, you heard the bible now get to work. . God will be pleased smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 9:08pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... that's what wikipedia said shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin .
- makes sense to me
Why?
He created time
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Time has no effect on Him , that's why He is ageless
Revelation 1:8
Understand who Christians call "God" and why we call Him the Almighty , everlasting etc first , before saying your mind
[b]You see, you just spelled out a bunch of crap hewn from a book written by ancient jews to postulate your concept of god. . .I have no problem with that.

That then is the time i tell you to substantiate your claim, prove your claim because reading something from a book doesn't make it true. . Vikings believe theirs exactly same way you believe yours. . .Your belief doesn't make it true. . . i would expect that a god powerful enough to have created the universe wouldn't have been so invisible to be confined only to the pages of a book, thats sheer degrading.

You have made these claims without substantiating them just like other religions have made theirs without any substantiation. . .So once you cannot back up your claim with proof, it is as good as nothing and remains just a claim.

Again since you asserted your god just existed without another god creating it, haven't you shown that something can exist without being created. why then do you keep insisting the universe must require a creator?..
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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:56pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
I applaud people who go extra mile to explain God's nature - he did that - but your comment was a big no ! As far as God is superior , whatever He wants you to do , you should.
Since he dragged it down the scope of another life form i don't see why i should bother myself with what a life form in another planet thinks...its like saying that maybe some other life forms in another planet be bothering themselves with what humans think and regard humans as gods. . . This goes along to drag the Vikings concept into play, postulating that gods are powerful humanoids that lives in one of the nine realms of the cosmos.(viking mythology)

I don't totally agree with a few points he made and I think people should quit bothering themselves about God's nature cos its beyond human comprehension .
This is exactly the point, you say its beyond human comprehension then yet again turn around and tell me what you think he wants from me, how dah heck did you know since it is beyond human comprehension. . in fact how dah heck did you even know there is one since its existence is beyond human comprehension. . .wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Restoring Faith In Humanity (Photos) by johnydon22(op): 8:50pm On Jul 03, 2015
And religious bigots just ruined my thread with stupendous assertions. . . #Seriouslyangry
Christianity Etc › Re: Restoring Faith In Humanity (Photos) by johnydon22(op): 8:49pm On Jul 03, 2015
Hiswordxray:
I keep mentioning you because you want me to stop and that proves my teachings is getting into your head. It is disturbing you, messing up with you ideology and believe.
And of course God loves you and He wants to save you from this foolishness.
Hahahahahahaha please am not a homo, and am not in support of homosexual relationships so please take your stalking somewhere else, maybe stalk a girl because you are making me feel like am being stalked around by a homosexual and its really uncomfortable for a strictly straight person like me
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:45pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Lol @ bold . Time will come , don't worry wink
Hehehehehehe thats what every other religion say cool
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:43pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
If aliens genetically engineered humans , who genetically engineered theirs? Who did those , who did theirs? It goes on in infinitum , I guess

grin
Exactly the point, if the alleged god created humans, then what created god, it means another god must have which in turn means another god must have created that god. It goes on in a chain of infinite regress cheesy just like you postulated above, now you are getting the point smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:35pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Bia Johnny , this comment is embarrassing undecided , you know its not a must to comment grin
You deh madt ni?undecided. . . the guy reduced his god concept to an alien life from somewhere in the universe, so it is then rational to agree that he terms another life form that exist somewhere in a distant galaxy a god of which i see no need to because both we humans and the supposed life form share the same universe therefore are products of the same universe, why then is he asking me to worship another life form somewhere, naaaah i'd rather let them worship me instead.… … … I think you should have taken it up with him for dragging ur god concept to the scope of a life form existing in another galaxy
Politics › Re: Buhari Backtracks, Appoints New SSS Chief “acting” DG by johnydon22(m): 5:55pm On Jul 03, 2015
menesheh:
DUL*ARDINHO
You are fake grin cheesy
lol replace the * with an l and try again
Crime › Re: Businessman & Wife Shot And Butchered In Front Of Their Kids In Katsina by johnydon22(m): 5:47pm On Jul 03, 2015
axfix:
Tank you. Reprisal attack imminent.
No we igbos are not known for that. . .let us take this as a call to strive for our autonomy and make sure that their deaths were not in vain. . let us not retaliate on the innocents ones.

Igbos dont like killing
Crime › Re: Businessman & Wife Shot And Butchered In Front Of Their Kids In Katsina by johnydon22(m): 5:46pm On Jul 03, 2015
omolami:
The hausas gave started their onslaught on ibos. Therefore we the ibos should retaliate with immediate effect Tit for tat. Tonight some hausas must die in our land. Since Buhari is a terrorist few terrorist must emerge here too.
Hey just calm down, no killing please...we igbos are not known for that.


Nwannem, ezigbo nwoke biko wetuo obi ooo..iwe gi dajuo. . agu mba, ezigbo nwa igbo ji eje mba mba. anyi ma na anyi nwere mmadu mana biko wetuo obi gi maka ihe di oku ga emeche juo oyi...
Politics › Re: Buhari Backtracks, Appoints New SSS Chief “acting” DG by johnydon22(m): 5:34pm On Jul 03, 2015
wisefizz:
UH... DAT AWKWARD MOMENT WHEN YOU TYPE "DUL*ARDINHO" AND NAIRALAND AUTOMATICALLY TURNS IT TO "PRESIDENT BUHARI"



NAIRALAND WHY?





OK... THIS MOVE BY BUHARI IS JUST LALASTICAL
Testing your postulation. let me type it.

President Buhari


hahahahahahaha it works like magic cheesy cheesy cheesy ewoooo president buhari is not synonymous to dul*adinho. .cheesy i don die oocheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 5:26pm On Jul 03, 2015
Ok what you term god is just an alien life form from another planet. . . Good for you then. . it then shows that it was not an omniscient, omnipotent being then. just another life form living in its own planet with its own kind while you waste your time worshipping an alien that don't know you exist... lol... Since ur god is a life form in its own dimension and i am a life form in my own dimension. can we all now just mind our dimensions. why start worshipping another type of life form. . . lmao..this is funny,
Christianity Etc › Re: Restoring Faith In Humanity (Photos) by johnydon22(op): 4:43pm On Jul 03, 2015
adexsimply:
after reading the dude's other posts I think I'd have to agree with you. I can't believe a human being can have such thoughts running through their mind sad
You can only imagine. . .and the guy seem very obsessed with mentioning me even tho he would have already noticed i find his posts too dumb to reply. . I wonder what belief have done to such a young vibrant mindhuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions Strictly For Athiests In The House by johnydon22(m): 4:06pm On Jul 03, 2015
Medicis:
How and why do you exist
Exactly same way you know you do, its a simple word "Perception". . . You know it actually baffles me how someone with a brain could ask such question, you yourself as a living being with well defined intellect should have been PERCEPTIVE enough to know this.
and for what purpose?
[b][i]Purpose is a concept that connotes the goal or aim you attach to something. . so your purpose is what you give yourself and it differs from individual to individual. . your purpose in life remains what you determine it to be, stop asking atheists the question of determining your purpose of living

If you suddenly don't believe evolution anymore show me just one evidence that God does not exist
show me evidence that a unicorn with a pink diamond wing don't exist. . . The burden of proof of your absurdity remains yours.
You claim there is, it is left for you to provide proof of it not ask someone to disprove what you have not proven.
I cannot disprove the existence of a flying unicorn same way i cannot disprove the existence of your god concept because both of them have not been proven or demonstrated, so their is absolutely nothing to disprove. .

Your lack of proof to back up your claim remains the greatest proof against it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions Strictly For Athiests In The House by johnydon22(m): 3:07pm On Jul 03, 2015
Op just like other cutely naive theists seem to think that atheist is synonymous to scientist, many educated atheist tend to agree with scienfic explanations due to presence of empirical evidence and a clear substantiation of scientific analogies but yet again there are many atheists that don't even know what science is or know how to read or write. . .Atheism simply entails "Lack of belief in god(s)". simple.

Op probably need to read and study more on those subjects he brought up, because clearly he needs books when he is too naive to know the difference between atheism and science
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Invention - Garment To Cover Women's Thighs During Childbirth by johnydon22(m): 1:58pm On Jul 03, 2015
There will cover the thighs and cover the punany toohuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Questions Strictly For Athiests In The House by johnydon22(m): 1:55pm On Jul 03, 2015
Medicis:
you know what, you should have just answered the question that relates to atheism instead of all this your stories.
I looked real hard and none did, i really did look very hard
Phones › Re: Have Been Browsing Free From Mtn by johnydon22(m): 1:38pm On Jul 03, 2015
Works only for opera, it downloads pictures tho and am seriously enjoying it grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Almost 95% Of Atheist Genius And 50% Of Genius Atheists? by johnydon22(m): 1:36pm On Jul 03, 2015
krattoss:
thanks for lecturing the ikpeama 1 of nairaland.

Couldnt have explained better.
lol...

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