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Christianity Etc › Re: How The Devil Successfully Made Homosexualism Sane. by johnydon22(m): 7:21am On Jun 29, 2015
Esdb3:
Dude what do you even have to say about the bible's prophecies about folks like you and other things.
Bible prophecy about what?
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Do Atheists Go When They Die??????? by johnydon22(m): 7:20am On Jun 29, 2015
exactly the same place you go. . " no where"!!!! Dead people don't go anywhere cus they are dead, they dont exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: What's This About Jesus? by johnydon22(m): 7:17am On Jun 29, 2015
When Christians don't know the answer to something, they seek for an escape route "ask the holy spirit". . .why don't you tell her since you have the holy spirit.

I wonder if the holy spirit will make the english letters to change and mean something else other than what they say.

No wonder Christianity has 41,000 different sects, wonder how the teachings of this holy spirit got so different to give rise to 41 wooping thousand doctrines.
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 12:10am On Jun 29, 2015
Teempakguy:
next, we determine, without wheels, how were materials transported? Both to and for and up and down?

I have a theory that they were dragged. But that does not account for how they lifted it. Robinhez as suggested a scaffolding system and a stiff pulley system. What are your thoughts on this?

Dragging was replaced by the wheel method, so i think that dragging system was likely to have been used to transport the materials, maybe they employed a way of placing the stones on flat sheets that have smoothened surfaces and therefore has less friction with the ground, smoother, faster that an ordinary being dragged like that on the ground

For lifting, i go with RnbinHez hypothesis of manually pulled pulleys and the crane system also is a plausible option too
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 12:06am On Jun 29, 2015
Teempakguy:
I see it. . . . however, the stones used to build the pyramids are quite bigger than your crane can support, I think. The weight of the stones would snap the lever. Since it was probably made of wood. Below is a close up of the pyramid. See how the stones look like in comparison to humans. They are quite massive. And multiply that by the density of the material used in the stones, you have a very heavy substance that I don't think can be carried with wooden levers.

Johnydon22, what do you say here?

Perhaps they employed the use of an inclined plane? A metal inclined plane?

In fact, I cannot think of any material available to them with which they could have built any ropes strong enough to suspend those stones. embarassed
I think the crane hypothesis is very plausible, don't judge with the size of the crane depicted on the picture, it would be much larger in the real sense.

Don't forget woods were also used to build war catapults that hauls stones thrice that size many meters away. . .
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 11:28pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
I can come to a compromise by saying it is a mixture of skilled and unskilled labour. smiley
Yeap, skilled labour for the pyramid itself and unskilled labour for the hard quarrying, carrying, lifting jobs. . .The pyramids are works of remarkable architectural and masonry masterpiece
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 11:11pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
20 years is a short time nah. grin
Like you said, thousands of workers. Given the kind of civilization ancient Egypt had, less than 30% of those were skilled. Now, they could have recruited labour by either religious propaganda or external slavery. Which do you think?
Lol. . . i definitely doubt 20years is a short time to build a pyramid with thousands of workers at work on the site. . . Slaves are likely to be used at the stone quarry and rode building sites (the great pyramids at gizza had a polished road running to it), Animal/slave labour may have been required for transporting the block of stones and maybe pulling up these stones too. . .

The accurate measurement of the pyramid require skilled masons with high knowledge on geometry... For the actual pyramid construction, it calls for great skill in masonry. . . And i don't think 20years is a small amount of time for thousands of these skilled craft men to finish the pyramid
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 10:57pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
ah, but there were hierarchies. The skilled designers, the taskmasters, and the slaves that worked under them. Otherwise, it would be extremely difficult to achieve such an achievement as the pyramid in such a short time.
It was not a short time bro, it took thousands of skilled workers 10-20years to finish the pyramid and other minor structures that surrounds it
Romance › Re: Heartbreaking Story Of Nigerian Lady Her Fiance Married Another Woman Yesterday by johnydon22(m): 10:48pm On Jun 28, 2015
Don't quite trust all these "it happened to my friend" stories. . .
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Invent A Religion by johnydon22(m): 10:34pm On Jun 28, 2015
menesheh:
Are you looking for his missing posts?
Yes its a discussion, would love to see them and read them and then reply them. . . from the looks of it, he has made three posts now that were removed or banned . . .don't quite know huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Grill, Mary Magdalena And The Davinci Codes by johnydon22(m): 10:32pm On Jun 28, 2015
Dan Brown Da Vinci's code is fiction tho born out of some little factual speculations hewn from some early christian writings. . . .

tho matters of Jesus being married or not is under heavy study as there are many early christian texts that suggest so.

About Mary Magdalene being the grail, i think thats basically Dan Brown's wild imagination in his fictious work..
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Invent A Religion by johnydon22(m): 10:24pm On Jun 28, 2015
What exactly is happening to NumberOne2 postshuh Seems its been removed by anti-spam bots or something, i don't quite understand...
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 10:22pm On Jun 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
ALL the little onse who could not make moral decision will go to heaven.
**sighs** lipsrsealed
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Devil Successfully Made Homosexualism Sane. by johnydon22(m): 10:08pm On Jun 28, 2015
Kay17:
This is Christian morality you are espousing.
I don't even know what you mean by christian morality because the last time i checked morality belongs to no distinct religion.
We atheists, at least as secularists ought to throw off the yoke of Christian morality.
Maybe you are mistaking atheism to entail dogmas

Again atheism only implies disbelief in gods, so secularity makes no one atheistic. I still don't really get what you mean by christian morality. . Morality (in any sense) is not distinctively muslim or christian or any religion at all, morality is human it belongs to no ism. and does not depend upon any book, creed or supernatural for foundation cus morality is a foundation itself.
Love is the vaguest term and necessarily coupled with hatred. Everybody does not deserve love, to say otherwise is hypocritical.
This is seriously your opinion and ideology mine is drastically different.
to me Everybody and everything deserves love .

So do not try to impose your ideologies on me, that we are both atheists doesn't make our ideologies alike. . . We only have one thing in common which is "disbelief in gods"
and please again, stop stereotyping atheists with your ideologies, we do not share the same ideology.
If everyone is loved, then who is hated?!
No one necessarily needs hating anyone, after all hatred is a burden to the hater
And don't try to pin same sex marriage to love. Love is not even necessary for marriage.
I am sure i never did that, maybe in your quickness to reply to air your views you couldn't quite understand what i wrote

the bolded part of my post was not about marriage love or any kind of intimate love or there so, it was about tolerance, goodness, and general good of all... Read it again

There is no race, colour, class, religion, sexual orientation, no system,
no nothing that makes us better than anyone else. we are all deserving
of love
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 10:04pm On Jun 28, 2015

Wow this just turned into personal attacks and word wars. . . the thread is ruined. . . Seriously people why ruin the fun in all this tonight. .am out…

anyway for the people who want to discuss real deals, meet up at the science discussion thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2391945/sciences-discussion-thread

for some hot discussions with hot brained dudes, Don't forget to bring your brains along while at it folks wink
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 9:46pm On Jun 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
as long as the children are in the age of reasoning were they are capable of making decisions, YET they stick with deception.
Seriously the way you talk sometimes makes me wonder if you even read what you post. .

we are talking children here, day old babies, months old babies, a year old, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and every other age within childhood not to forget even pregnant women were ripped open.

How do you even justify killing these . . . wooooow
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 9:37pm On Jun 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
If people grow up in a culture that accepts things like murder and rape, very few will listen to their conscience and go against what everyone else says. Children learn wrong things from their parents and the surrounding culture; as they mature, they become part of the culture and perpetuate it by participating in it and passing on its teachings to their children
And thats why the children were killed too....

Sometimes i just wish you read what you posts in your defence of these barbaric acts. .
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 9:29pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
fun ke?
It was a job for the slaves nah. Nobody cared about how "fun" it was. Only the end product. Which we now appreciate today. smiley
The workers quarters at the construction site were stone build edifices and their burial chambers too were remarkable, archeological evidences suggest the workers were skilled craft men (egyptians to be precise) and not slaves. . . And seeing archeological findings doesn't support the notion of large scaled slavery ever occurred in egypt. . . . . Remember we are dealing with the pharaoh here, more like a god figure.
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 9:25pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
Was there metal at that period? Check if that was the bronze or iron age.
It takes iron to accomplish what you are suggesting.
The stones for the starting levels of the pyramids were cut from a stone quarry.

it is likely during the bronze age seeing the pyramids during 2630BC's and thats the period the stone age were on. .

so they are likely to have used bronze tools in the stone quarry, carving and digging works
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 9:12pm On Jun 28, 2015
Slimzjoe:
Honestly, this Thread have made me Realise how Backward I still am in Sciences......

Wat did I even learn in Sec.Skul ? cry
What am I learning now too??

Lol
Lol. . .Nigerian secondary schools even universities are disasters when it comes to scientific studies. .

Read independently, scientific materials and independent study
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 9:10pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
I suspected it was him. Also, there is another aspect. The pyramid is not merely a construction, it is a building with hollow spaces inside. Ingenious support system. shocked
The pyramids were built with large stone stacks bound together, i think my best guest is that the inner chambers (Pharaoh's burial chamber and the queen's burial chamber) were carved out after the main construction, going by the hidden doors, steep and narrow passage ways, and one of the chamber going down past the pyramid foundation into the ground below
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m):
This guy's lack of basic comprehension is epic. . My question was simple

Why punish the innocent along with the guilty, why kill the children alongside the men (the same children that is said to have been used as sacrifices which brought about punishment in the first place) Is killing them (children) alongside the men while meting out punishment not the same crime as the men committed?
Let me just drag myself back to the science section and continue with people that has basic cognitive ability#Sighs..
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 8:56pm On Jun 28, 2015
Teempakguy:
you know, the biggest wonder for me here is how on earth they figured out how to calculate the area of a pyramid. Considering the wheel had not even been invented then.

The great Imhotep did, no wonder Egyptians deified him after death. . .
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 8:37pm On Jun 28, 2015
RobinHez:
**yawns**
some guy mentioned me like i knew how they built the pyramids....angry
**stretches and coils back in bed**
That is why we are here. . . scientific inclined individuals solves problems scientifically. . . so since you don't or any of us know, we are here to postulate and tender plausible hypothesis on possible ways it could have been done
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 7:48pm On Jun 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
God is the creator of heaven and earth and He will do what He say he will do.what do you understand by the word genocide? Genocide, murder or any killing that is
not necessary to defend another person's life is not justified. I provide a verse were it say this people sacrifice there sons and daughters to other gods,as a matter of fact, God had warn them long before in genesis but they refused to heed to his warning. You guys are very good in Exaggeration of Christian Evil, but you people always fail to provide the whole story.

God had patiently waited over 400 years until the Canaanites would be ripe for
judgment (Genesis 15:16)
The way to punish them was to command the death of both guilty and innocent. . .

The canaanites used their children as sacrifice, then god decided to punish them by punishing both the men and the same children one would think was the reason for the judgement to be passed in the first place.

So he made to punish them by punishing the children along with it. . . Isn't that exactly what the people initially were doing?

Isn't that why the cities were punished? Killing children.

Then after god punished the city by killing both men and children, Was it not the same crime he punished the canaanites for?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 7:42pm On Jun 28, 2015
herald9:
You're right to some extent. But when you question everything, people no longer take you serious. You've to question what's is questionable in order to stay relevant.

As per your example, the Jews will say he was, the story of Moses won't be complete without a mention of Joseph.

But to us, I'm still searching for the link....
Exactly, it is about asking the right questions. . if you ask the right questions i don't see how people won't take you seriously after all it was Socrates method.

In everything he will ask "why?" "How?" and this got people thinking more than they ever could have.

So again its not about questioning everything; Its about asking the right question to the right subject.
Christianity Etc › Re: Very Confusing dream,please I Need Help by johnydon22(m): 7:17pm On Jun 28, 2015
Nnaaa don't be confused, its a dream. . . stop making a big deal out of it
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 7:11pm On Jun 28, 2015
herald9:
But that's what the dude is trying to imply here.

We accuse people of blind beliefs... Now we are victims of blind questioning... Not everything is worth questioning, please.
I must say that questioning everything is fine but it depends on what ground your question is based?

asking the right question for the right subject is more like it. . . E.g: Was Joseph even a historical figure?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 6:50pm On Jun 28, 2015
herald9:
'appear'?

Just because you're an atheist, you think you've a standard criteria for measuring what's good and what's bad?

Remember what's good to you might not be good to others.
No one has the standard of measuring good and bad, Not atheist or theist. these two concepts are subjective.
Science/Technology › Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 5:58pm On Jun 28, 2015
Hello guys can we discuss the mechanism we think was likely used to build the great pyramids.

Cc. Teempakguys help invite others, you know their monikers more than i do

Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 5:49pm On Jun 28, 2015
herald9:
Christian or no Christian, I've to say things as it is or I'll be fooling myself. Some stories in the Bible are didactic-they teach morals.

Like Joseph rising from the position of a servant to 'prime minister' teaches determination and also shows the reward for honesty.

Not all things in the Bible are worth questioning tho.



Btw I'm not an atheist. Just an enlightened soul.
Yes bro

the bible is full of interest

it has noble poetry in it

and some clever fables

and some blood drenched history

and some good morals

a wealth of obscenity

and upwards of a thousand lies
Christianity Etc › Re: The Biblical Joseph, The First And Greatest 419 Story Ever Told. by johnydon22(m): 4:45pm On Jun 28, 2015
plaetton:
Sorry sir, I made the semantic error of mixing Terror and plunder with 419.
My christian friend calls grace, which means UNMERITED FAVOUR.

SO, according to the new christian nomenclature,
Terror and Plunder = god's grace
According to them it is ok for god to kill someone and give you what he owns. . . it is grace... But when a thief steals ur stuff to give another, it is a sin and not grace..

Imagine i have heard someone testify how a man lost his job and he got the position as a replacement. . . i was like WTFhuh

Such nonsenses are called selfishness and unfounded injustice... somehow they are more deserving of the good things than others..

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