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And again why do you need to be forgiven for a sin committed by two people that you know nothing about......





If adam and eve had not eaten the fruit of knowledge then, how did they know what they did was evil, they were innocent and naive and god punished them for their naivete when he made them that way.....

Lol jewish mythology no sweet at all

menesheh:
Ain't amongst you bro. I never for once call mary God's baby mama because of virgin birth.

I didn't know the process or mechanism they both (god and mary) undergone b4 the magical birth of such a marvelous and awesome child like jesus which i will never refer as sex because mary never admit semen entering her.

You are on your own man

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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NumberOne2:
A superstition is a belief that is not based on logic or reason. I thought Atheist were LOGICAL and REALISTIC?

I think you are adding your own definition to atheism . . .

You yourself know that atheism only means disbelief in gods

they may even be grandpas that have never tasted education but lack beliefs in gods thats all it takes to be referred to as an atheist.

so not everyone who is an atheist can be regarded to be logical or intelligent and stuff.

some may be superstitious or believe all these absurdities that superstition entails but what labels them atheist are just disbelief in god(s)

another may be all brilliant, intelligent, logical, scientific all that doesn't classify him an atheist, only the fact that he/she lack belief god(s) labels him/her an atheist.

NumberOne2:
Hmmm, so Super Humans don't exist? Cos there are some well documented even alive today.

. . . Yeah we have some gods (from somewhere outside the universe) coming to impregnate human women to give birth to nice super babies. . . that help literally carry planet, walk on water etc..

example of these babies that are alive now please

NumberOne2:
Didn't cook them up neither are they imaginary. Let me give you an example out of many.
There was a Jew named Jesus whose story is well documented. You can even check through history or google.
Is that also cooked up?

let me give you thousand other examples. .
There was a greek heracles (hercules) whose story was also well documented.

there was an egyptian God osiris who story is well documented in ancient egyptian papyrus.

there is also Zeus and other Olympian Gods whose stories appear too on homer's Iliad and other greek antiquities

we can go on forever. . . that is exactly the cooking up we are talking about..

You can tell me hercules and jesus are greek and jew respectively and lived somewhere in greece and isreal sometime ago. . i definitely have no problem with that.

but when you start telling me hercules was born when a god came and got his mother pregnant, helped atlas carry the earth, carried an over large stone up a mountain or jesus was born when a god came and got his mom pregnant, walked on water etc. . And ask me to believe it with faith. That is exactly where cooking up stories are

NumberOne2:
Missing my point. Like I said... Man is a Beleiver (hence the need for the vacuum to be filled either by God or Man which are both Deities).

1) define deity

2)what sort of imaginary belief vacuum are you trying to create exactly
so since you obviously think it is necessary for you to have belief in something why dont you just confine it to the natural examples you gave me like doctor not being a psycho, why cook up unnecessary imaginative concepts like god(s) because you need to heap your beliefs somewhere for which ever reason

NumberOne2:
.. but witches are SUPERNATURAL BEINGS just like gods.

nope witches are humans alleged to possess preternatural powers. .

NumberOne2:
Atheism is absurd because it doesn't believe in deities but there are over 7 billion of them on this planet.

Hahahahahahahaha if you are referring to humans as deities then thats good then (that now seems you are not forgoing the existence of the allegedly supernatural deity concepts horus, yahweh, osiris and co)

so for humans being deities, thats alright then but we atheist just like to live in reality so we would prefer calling them just humans

NumberOne2:
Man is a believer irrespective of your views. Our daily lives requires beleif (conscious or unconscious).
Belief that your neighbour is NOT a serial killer, or your Doctors prescription will work. Belief that the plane pilot is NOT a psycho that will crash the plane.

belief makes nothing true. . . whether you believe something or not doesnt make it true. . that you belief your neighbour is NOT serial killer doesn't make your neighbour to a serial killer if he is one.

that you believe your doctors prescriptions will work still wouldnt make them work if they are not the right ones.

that you belief the pilot is Not a psycho that will crash the plane still doesn't make him not to be a psycho if he is one. .

so you see belief bears absolutely no weight on certainty...

NumberOne2:
Is that not a contradiction looking at those definitions?
So one can be scared of the devil (witches) but there is no god?

is god a witch?

it all falls to belief.... the person may believe that there are witches but lack belief there are god(s)


just like someone can also disbelief there are witches but believes there is a god or gods.

saying belief in witches contradicts disbelief in deities is like saying disbelief in witches contradicts belief in deities. . . those are independent concepts

MuttleyLaff:
SMH, when you are done bamboozling yourself and ready to move on just let me know
Please can you stop spreading your ignorance, because just like with this Jephthah matter, you know jack-nothing about English

If you dont know and werent taught "gender-specific pronouns" how can you possibly understand and correctly use a "third person singular pronouns"
He doesnt even understand the contents in the web link he posted. SMH

There are lessons galore, more coming your way, you have meet your Waterloo and you'll surely get your comeuppance in the end

johnydon22:
Jephthah said whatsoever surely this doesnt say anybody it means anything. . cat, dog, cow, slave, human...whatsoever .... then it it will be the lord's and offered as burnt offering. . .
is this english not clear enough for any sane person to see that the pronoun it in the statement quantifies the word whatsoever . .

thats all . . no more indulging you to exchange more words.

MuttleyLaff:
A pronoun is a word that takes the place of a noun ((I, me, he, she, herself, you, it, that, they, each, few, many, who, whoever, whose, someone, everybody, etc)
Watch the nouns and pronouns in the following sentence
Tarzan saw Jane, and he waved at her
Were you not taught gender-specific pronouns at all?

modified so as not to sound offensive . .

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/it you can go and read about it.

am clearly done indulging in this where you keep wallowing in your own deception in the face of plain truth

Let us clear this once and for all. . .
Atheism means only one thing and that is exactly what you posted on your op
DISBELIEF IN DEITIES and that is all. . .
you can believe that big foot exist, spiderman exist, unicorns, vampires exists. . . the only thing that labels someone an atheist is disbelief in gods

bro the supernatural beings you added to the definition of superstition isn't there from the google which you got that definition from, it only says supernatural
http://www.google.com.ng/search?q=superstition i think we all would appreciate it if you can be honest in your post and throw every deception out the window.

according to google superstition is excessively credulous belief in and reverence for the supernatural. everyone can look it up by typing superstition in www.google.com.ng

superstitious beliefs includes witchcrafts, magic, ghosts etc. . . so someone can still believe these things and lacks belief in a god or gods. .

so yes someone who lacks belief in god(s) (atheist) can still be superstitious

2nd picture, is he waving to the cows or what

MuttleyLaff:
No, if you dont forget the "AND" it's not basically one promise
Any body christian or muslim reading this am sure can tell us that "it" refers to an object like an animal and that persons are usually referred to by "he", "she", "him", "her", "them" etc

Dude seriously? when jephthah made the promise he had nothing in mind and surely didnt even know his daughter would be the one. .

Am sure you passed your english in school to know the pronoun IT can be used to connote a subject previously mentioned.

Jephthah said whatsoever surely this doesnt say anybody it means anything. . cat, dog, cow, slave, human...whatsoever .... then it it will be the lord's and offered as burnt offering. . .

is this english not clear enough for any sane person to see that the pronoun it in the statement quantifies the word whatsoever . .

And for someone who passed english to not know It as a pronoun can also refer to human is quite very pitiable.
e.g: Who broke the lamp..? ans: It was John……

i think surely you will be awarded a medal for bible twisting boy with blatant deception, you really earned

MuttleyLaff:
Time-out's over
but going forward, please PEEL your eyes wide open and slowly but carefully read whatever I post now and afterwards

This is honouring johnydon22's "show us the verses where he made the two vow..." request .

Judges 11:31
Then it shall be, that whatsoever comes forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon,
shall surely be the LORD'S,
and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.

hahahahahaha and thats basically one promise. . . that thing shall be the lords and i will offer IT (that thing) as a burnt offering. . . can it be any clearer than this?? or you still want to apply more deceptions?

Any body christian or muslim reading this am sure can tell us how the bolded words becomes seperate independent statements

Tjayjosh:
False.
She was taken to shiloh. There she served at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 1sa 2:22.

Ok using something as burnt offering means sending it to shiloh to serve at the tent... **Face palm**

what is patoranking..




sorry who is patoranking?

....The coming of the missionaries did absolutely more harm than good, they used our women as sex slaves, beat our men, use us for forced labour, kill us, sold us, used us as amusement, put us in zoos, gave us their religions and cultures and we lost our way lost deep inside our own inferiority . . . Am sorry mama africa

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Barnabaseloka:
Even in belief we still study but not based on human philosophy, logic or wisdom. We study the bible by the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit that comes from God and knows about God, just as the spirit of a man know about the man. It is the Spirit of God that reveals to christians the mind of God concerning them. He explains the word of God to christians for them to understand it. That is why I tell you that the word of God is spiritual and cannot be farthormed by human reasoning or wisdom.

Yeah just like muslims study quran by another holy spirit

You also believe (have faith) in evolution of 'man' from 'primates' when you did not see it happen. Archeological discoveries made you believe, even when these discoveries cannot substantially show how true their theories were, but only speculations and propositions.

@bolded
If you cannot make honest assertions then please i have no more need arguing with you unless you have reading and comprehension problem to see when i stated.
I am not an evolutionist cus i dont know how anything began
Please desist from making fallacious straw mans i only respect honest people.

Science is not a belief system, it is study, observations and experiments. . No one needs to have faith in anything, when there are evidences supporting a theory no one needs faith to know..

I can only advice you to go and start reading cus honestly am bewildered at this type of thinking and innocent naivete..

emrain:
The guy is coming up. He'll soon discover the truth.

I was once like him.

Yeah i agree with you he will learn with time

Hahahahahahaha you were once like him as in attacking people personally instead of attacking the topic?

read all my discussions with him he was just busy crying emotionally sentimental blabs. .

MuttleyLaff:
Watch your tongue and how to construct your post, you cheeky young upstart

Good that you're beginning to know your place and worth but I'll let you squirm a bit more before I do

hahahahahahaha ok sir oya

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Barnabaseloka:
I love the last part of your post and that is where I stand. A muslim or a christian will learn in academics but will not throw his faith away b/c pf academics. As muslims or christians get knowledge from academics, they will disregard things that science say that contradicts their faith, though studying them. As a christian, when it comes to academics, i speak the language of academics. But if academics or science contradicts my faith, I put such aside and uphold my faith.

Ok then its settled

But you know the difference between science (study) and faith (belief)?

emrain:
Seminary school in heaven with God as the Pope.

hahahahahahaha imagine and the guy is fighting tooth and nail to ensure that the sacrifice was not burnt offering.. lmao.. willful dishonesty to defend the bible

MuttleyLaff:
Yes

hahahahahahaha ok good

MuttleyLaff:
Wouldnt you like to know

Just shows you're an amateur
It's only one verse, who needs other verses from other bible books when only one verse will do.

You look uncomfortable and squirmed in front of your screen reading that

Hahahahahahaha you simply dont know how to argue. . please i dont use personal words when arguing so lets just stick to the thread so as not to childishly drag it into unrelated personal word exchanges like you are trying hard to do...I dont do that..

so back to the matter

I agree am an amateur, now prof kindly show us the verses please please please