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theunusualmoon:
@ Dapo777
1.Why do we have So many evils in this world. But God is a good God why does he allow evil,why can't he just end all this sufferings once and from all?
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God gave man the free will so we won't be like robots.....the evil you experience today is as a result of man made choices.

2)Why does God give me sexual urge as early as the age of 11 and forbid me from exercising it before marriage, why can't God make man/woman have sexual urge like after the age of 21 So that by then we would be matured enough and fornication won't be as high as it is now.

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You are eleven.....how do you know what you're experiencing is sexual urge and not puberty......Could it be that you were exposed to movies that were a bit too matured for you as a child? If that was the case then don't blame GOD for that.
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3)Why don't God communicate with everyone instead of using the Bible that is long boring and difficult to understand, why should there be Bible anyway when he(God) can tell us whatever he wants to tell personally.
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GOD communicates with you every second but your heart is else where
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4)why don't God answer all my prayers after promising to answer all my prayers in the Bible,he didn't give any conditions for answering prayers So why isn't he?
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How come your parents didn't buy you candies each time you asked?
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5)Why does God get angry when I sin,he is omniscience, whatever I do shouldn't come as a surprise to him So I see no reason why he should be angry when he already knows I would sin.
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It's rather unfortunate that you chose not to chain down your daughter despite the fact that you know her late nights may get her pregnant
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6)God made women beautiful and sexy,So why does he instruct me not to be lustful,he should have made them ugly and unappealing if he didn't want me to lust in the first place.
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Do you lust over your beautiful siblings?
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7)Where did God come from? Who created God since nothing can come from nothing,God must definitely come from something, God can't create himself,it's impossible So who created God,and who created the entity that created God,and who created the entity that created the entity that created God,and So on like that.

Does this universe have end,how does the end look like? If not,how come? Is it possible to have a container with endless volume,what is outside the universe if it has an expanding end.
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If GOD was created then he wouldn't be called GOD

9)what does God look like? Does he take the shape of a human? Is he shapeless? Where is the spiritual realm? Is it outside the universe?
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You were created in his image
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10)If God created the universe why is he So wasteful,he created millions of galaxies, our galaxy inclusive,with each galaxy having millions of planets
,just because he wants to create an earth with humans occupying an insignificant place in the universe, is he So wasteful?
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That's to tell you the lenght at which GOD is willing to go just for you and I.

lmao... see funny answers..

honourhim:
Until you or any other person here point out in the bible where he said he is all good, he remains good to the extent i ve seen in the bible. At least Jesus called him good. However if you have seen what counters mine in the bible pls show me. I'm just speaking to the extent i know. my submission and views are not final. I may be right and i may be wrong.

bro if i start pointing out all the evil the bible attributed to God in the bible. . u might loose ur faith. its better we leave it this way. . . hold on to ur belief since it works for u

honourhim:
Bro its not you and me that will define whom God is, the bible contains all that we need to know about him thats why i told you earlier on that i look at God from what the bible said about his person. Thats also why i asked you if the bible said he is all good. Are you judging him from what pastor said about him or what you and other people think about him? Thats not it na. The bible had already told us his characteristics. As long as his actions corresponds with any of his attributes that are written in the bible then thats it.



I know that God said he is Almighty but i ve not seen where he called himself all good. He said that his mercy endure forever, that is to say that mercy cannot cease to be his character forever but how he carries out his mercy is a different thing. I ve not heard him say that he is all merciful. Again being good does not mean holiness. Note that i'm not arguing God with you rather i'm pointing out what the bible said about him, i'm also open to whatever you point out in the bible about him. I'm not defending God like i said.

ok since all your knowledge amd definition of God is narrowed on one book bible, lets go from there. . . u pointed out the bible didnt say he was all good, that exactly must mean that he is not all good right

An2elect2:
That's how He wants it to be. Are you pleased now?

hahahahahaha abeg o na question i ask oo...

dhope:
OP. i think d right answer to ur question is that HE is just God and HE did dt because HE is God and HE is unquestionable. HE choosed to use His only son to redeem us frm sin and nobody can question Him on that.

yes he is God and unquestionable... but why couldnt he just forgive the sins of mankind without demanding his sons murder... thats the question.

honourhim:
I said no better alternative. Jesus was the highest and best sacrifice for our sins. He gave us the best. Hebrews 10;4 "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats will take away sins".[
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it still boils down to my question must he demand for blood even to the extent of sacrificing his own son to himself so that his blood lust can be sated..!!! their was a better alternative which is just forgive and grant remission.. simple.



[quote author=honourhim post=28530874]I asked because i ve not seen where he said he is all good and all loving but i ve seen where he said that he created evil and good. I have seen where he talked about his wrath, his love. His mercy etc. I ve also seen where we are told to give thanks in everything. But if you have seen where he said he is all good then let me know. Learning is a continuous process.

Job 2:10 says

shall we receive good [/b]at the hand of God, and shall we not receive [b]evil?

so i make out to say that you mean God is not all good and all merciful... then why worship a being that claim to be holy but still yet not all good... if you say he is not all good then he is not holy, if you say he is not all merciful, then whats the point in all this shiii... no let other christians catch u saying God is not all holy and merciful... lmao

honourhim:
As hard as it may sound bro, that's the truth. Hebrews 9:22 says it. Also If there was a better alternative, God wouldn't have sacrificed Jesus.



Are you sure what you said here is in the bible?

so if God had another alternative hw wouldnt have sacrificed jesus... hmmm and i even thought he was all powerful. . .

you are asking whether what i said is in the bible, are you by any chance trying to tell me he is not all good and all loving...

Hawx:
@Balash, lol! Simply put, just give ur life to Christ and go for deliverance thereafter! The Lord will deliver you. Am so sure!

deliverance from what exactly

honourhim:
Bros, when God himself declared that he changes not, what do you think he was saying? I'm not trying to defend God but I always try to look at him based on what he said about his person. Let's look at it this way:- you have your attributes or characteristics as a human being. Your creator also has his attributes and characteristics as God. Those attributes/characteristics of him are unchangeable hence what you are asking about must go the way it did. It just has to go in line with his attributes/characteristics. It may not sound pleasing to human ears but God will always operate in accordance with his person. That's the way I look at it.

ok now i get it God's characteristics also includes demanding for blood before he can grant remission for sin... ok good one... he is all good and all loving indeed

chinedumo:
i am d op. How do you know muslims are not attempting to convert me?

i dont know ur dealings with the muslims and i dont even want to know.. all am saying is that in this particular no muslim started it to convert u, you started this to bash mohammed and possible make the muslims loose their belief.

luckychosen:
without the shading of blood there is no remission of sin

lol that same question i am asking... must he have a blood sacrifice before he can forgive and grant remission. . . so God must sacrifice his son to himself before he can grant humans remission... wow am loving it

MzPreshie:
Don't I just love this answer? God bless you bro. Because sin and death came into the world through one man. And redemption and eternal life also was brought to the world through one man. Some things are mysteries to the human mind, things only God can understand, because He's the all-knowing God. You might also want to ask why God allowed Adam to disobey Him in the first place, and why He allowed satan to have a convincing and sweet way of luring people. So many mysteries surround our mere existence, and only Him can solve the puzzles.

there another one goes again with sin came in through one man and will go through one man forgetting the question stated.. why must that one man be killed?? ... am certain adam wasnt murdered to bring in sin, so why do God feel the need to murder his son before he can bring redemption and eternal life to men when he could easily do it with requiring blood sacrifice from anybody talkmore his own son...
so God sent his son jesus, so that his son will sacrifice himself to him (God) before he can Forgive humans... wow nice story. God used his son to offer sacrifice to himself... lmao.

ayoku777:
That makes sense. Curiousity is a gift from God. Infact, its part of how we even get to know Him more.

Problem is, why do you always love to ask your fellow man your deepest questions about God?

No man can satisfactorily answer your heart's question about God. We can only try. We are asking Him or own deep questions too, even as christians. And He's helping us, one issue at a time.

If these questions matter so much to you, why don't you develop a relationship with God, and take your yearnings to Him? And He will help you by His Spirit.

lmao... am sure u that is filled to the brim with holy ask similar questions too... am still wondering why u dont have the answers yet or dont the holy spirit teach u d stuffs??

ayoku777:
Why did He make sin require remission? Why shouldn't a simple "I forgive you" be enough? Why did he make blood the tool of remission? Why not water or sweat? Why must that blood be shed on a cross? Why can't it be shed on a comfortable bed? Why this? Why that?

You might as well ask? Why did Microsoft call itself that? Why not Softmicro? Why didn't Apple Corp call itself Melon Corp?

Why do we have to press "Control V" to paste? Why don't we just have a "paste" button on the keyboard? Why is the space bar so long? Why are the Keyboards not arrange alphabetically? Why this? Why that?

I think a creator should be allowed to determine his protocol and have His reasons (from a big picture we may not immediately understand, much less appreciate).

Especially if we can trust He loves us and has our good at heart

If you don't believe in the book He uses to show us those protocols and rationalize some of those reasons to us. Then I can't fully help you.

so i should trust a creator that craves for blood because its his so called protocol? i thought he was all good. . even humans that are termed the sinners like xtianity does, do not have such blood lust...
ok whats worse, in order to stop the protocol he did the unthinkable by murdering his son instead of just stopping it.
nawa ooo ... humans are curious beings and we have every right to question everything.

ayoku777:
What you are saying is that sin should not have a consequence. Man should be allowed to sin, be forgiven and remitted.

You see, God dwells in eternity, and judges from the perspective of a big picture that we cannot even begin to try to comprehend.

All this questions of Why did God make it possible for man to be able to sin? Why did God let sin have consequence? Why did he make blood the tool of remission?

They consist in the wisdom of a bigger picture those who dwell in the circumference of time can't piece together jusy yet.

To say whatever we can't rational about God must either be untrue or a sham, will keep us in unbelief. Because of the picture size our mind can piece together.

lmao... is it not the case now? christians be like "jesus died for our sins and if we sin and beg den we are forgiven" ... still same thing. why must God murder his son so that he can be able to forgive mankind... a simple question.
(i.e: he is all loving, all good, all merciful and all powerful)

Seriously christians are you guys still arguing over this? whether jesus is God or not.. how can you claim to teach the truth when you dont even know the fundamental truth behind ur faith.. nawa oooo... christians confused since 000AD.. . . ..

ayoku777:
The bible says remission is by the shedding of blood. I think the problem is, you think God should be able to circumvent any protocol because He is God.

No God is not like that, He doesn't super-impose His sovereignty on every process.

I don't know why remission has to be by blood. But scripture says it.

I think the fundamental flaw is that you don't believe the bible is God's word. So you want the reason for Christ's death to be rationalized outside the scripture.

ok now let us judge from what you said here... remind me again WHO MADE THOSE PROTOCOLS, WHO MADE THOSE PROTOCOL THAT REMISSION MUST BE BY BLOOD...let me guess God?.... if yes, it still boils down to the same question.. why must it be by blood, why couldnt he just pardon and grant remission

MzNelly:
You see.

sweetheart why dont you think over it tonight, you will see it doesnt really make sense.

MzNelly:
I hope he meant that.

ofcus i do sweety

MzNelly:
Oh no. I'm just too tired to enter into a conversation with you knowing whatever i say is going to be countered, without being properly scrutinized.

lol

MzNelly:
I bet he thinks i'm outta words.



Goodnight.

good night sweetheart.. i didnt think you are out of words. . .am sure u werent my dear

ayoku777:
Its for two reasons I think:

1: There is a difference between pardon and remission.

Sin is divided into Cause (The act of disobedience), Consequence (guilt or sorrow or pain) and Condemnation (death)

Pardon only waves the act of disobedience; it doesn't wave the resultant sorrow and pain or the eventual death.

You told your child not to plat outside after dark, he disobeys you and got bitten by a snake. You may pardon his disobedience, but he is still in pain and will still die if nothing is done.

God pardoned the sin of the children of Israel in the wilderness, but that generation still all perished in that wilderness. Because pardon isn't remission.

Numbers 14v20-23 -And the Lord said, I have pardoned according to thy word: But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the Lord.

Because all those men, which have seen my glory.... And have tempted me now these ten times...

Surely they shall not see the which I swear unto their fathers.

Pardon didn't remove consequence (not see the land) or condemnation (perishing in the wilderness).

God also pardoned David, for adultery with Bathsheba and the death of Uriah, but the child still died, and Absalom (his son) still slept with all the concubines of David (which was the curse of the sin)

Pardon doesn't remove the consequence and the condemnation of the sin. Only remission does. And remission is ONLY BY THE SHEDDING OF (sinless) BLOOD.

Jesus, the Son of the living God is the only one that could bring remission for our sins; pardon the act and remove the guilt and the death, through His death.

2: The second reason Jesus had to die, I think is because forgiveness doesn't make us new creation.

Jesus had to die and resurrect, to become the first begotten from the dead and the firstborn of the new creation.

So that those who put their faith in His death and resurrection, can become new creation too.

His death brought remission, His resurrection brought the new creation. So a christian is more than just a forgiven sinner, he is a new creation.

A mere pardon couldn't have given man remission much less made us new creation. Only death and resurrection could pull that off.

I hope this helps.

still on the matter "so God cant grant humans pardon and remission without killing his son . . . .

MzNelly:
I suggest you read up on it.

lol have read it countless times, still makes no sense to me. . .. and am sure it makes no sense to u too but u just have to believe it with faith

MzNelly:
That's all i can say. You should do the research if you really want to know. I do not fancy typing voluminous notes.

lmao...

MzNelly:
He did not kill his son. Jesus was more like, the 'last sacrifice' to end all sacrifices.

he did not kill jesus? . . . remind again who sent Jesus
and why must they be a sacrifice to end sacrifice... why not just stop it since he changed his mind on sacrifices.

MzNelly:
That was in ancient times. Imagine if humans had to make such sacrifices. Everyday, animals will be killed cos we sin everyday!
Hence, the propitiatory sacrifice in the person of Jesus.

it still boils down to the question... why cant God just forgive humans without demanding any sacrifice or without ultimately bashing his son as the ultimate sacrifice

MzNelly:
When Adam sinned, he severed the relationship between man and humans. Man could no longer communicate with God.
Another perfect man (Jesus) had to intercede to make it possible for us to approach the Almighty via prayer.

so God cant really simply heal the severed relationship without killing his son.... he is all powerful, he can do all things. . why didnt he just do it, must killing his son be involved
talking about jesus being a perfect man, well sorry to say this but he wasnt.. no human father; holy spirit was his father... virgin birth!!!... he is not a perfect man infact in human terms someone said to be born of a spirit or a god and human woman or man is call demigod. . . so how exactly was jesus a perfect man

MzNelly:
It wasn't about forgiving mankind. Jesus was the mediator between God and us. He loved us so much he sent his son to die for us.

to die for us for what exactly

i was with some preachers today, they kept ringing on and on how jesus came to die for the sins of mankind so that mankind can be forgiven.
i asked them a simple question "why couldnt God just forgive mankind instead of murdering his son, i thought he was all powerful, all good and all merciful and loving. must he kill his son before forgiving

chinedumo:
how can u tell for sure?

seriously dude didnt u read d op

chinedumo:
it is nessesary esp when muslims try to convert me

but no muslim is trying to convert u in dis op... dis op was created to bash muhammed