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Rutherford2019:
After listening to Atedo Peterside yesterday I came to conclusion that Obi got 5p% and above across 36 states and the FCT
According to him, someone called him and told him that LP got 197 in his polling unit but got 185 in the whole LGA when the result was announced
He said that the trend was exchange Obi's vote for Tinubu and leave Atiku's untouched
The question is if the people of Katsina, Kaduna, Kano Ekiti and ondo voted for Tinubu why are they not celebrating?
I was in ondo in 2015 and there was wide jubilation when Buhari won even though he's not from SW
All my friends from SW used LP logo on their profile picture
Infact I met Tunde in my workplace he is from Osun and what he told me after Osun governorship election is Adeleke for governors..I asked him for president and he said 'Peter Obi na'
I learned that even many northerners voted for Obi
According to APC PCC,LP has no polling agents in northwest meaning they rigged there unwatched and that's why Obi appears to perform poorly there..

Obi is coming

So far, nobody has been able to disprove the results on irev and the ones on poll sheets.

Peter obi knows this and that's why he said that he is not challenging the outcome of the results but the process of the election.


If these are the evidences you would put before Tribunal and I can confidently tell you that "Obi is coming" is simply a propriety of imagination..

aycapri:
tell us what it is

Hi, how can it be done

BluntCrazeMan:
Pathetic..


Both INEC,,, and this comment of yours.

Guess the truth hits the spot

BluntCrazeMan:
Read the first emboldened part again.
Like, the rest of the Nigerians are Zombies?
So that INEC can wake up at the middle of the night and introduce anything,, or cancel anything.??


Well..
Since the tribunal process has commenced...
Let them do what they had to do.
Both the INEC and all the Legal Teams..
It's all part of what must be done -- at least, for now

Inec didn't make any decision overnight. It was reported on tradition news media that there was a technical glitch on the eve of the election.

BluntCrazeMan:
I really don't know why we still think that the INEC’s “IREV-Portal” is the Game-Changer when it comes to the current electoral settings...

Whereas it is supposed to be the INEC’s “E-Collation-System” that we should be seeing as the main Game-Changer here..
Then, it can be backed-up with the IREV-Portal.

And the truth is that,, the INEC’s “E-Collation-System had already been procured by the INEC Long ago, and it had been used successfully by the INEC on many occasions..
They call it CSRVS -- meaning: “Collation Support and Results Verification System”...

Yet we were busy demanding to have a little few of the remaining crumbs that fall off the table (i.e, the uploading of photos of results to the IREV-Portal),,, whereas we kept missing the main thing, which is the immediate transmission to the “E-Collation-System”, which is supposed to immediately collate all the transmitted Polling-units Results, and make the e-collated results quickly and readily available to all the Wards and LGAs, which would then be used for the Verification and Confirmation of all the Collated Results -- Starting from all the various Wards and LGAs nationwide.

Before taking the photographs of the result-sheets for uploading them into the IREV-PORTAL, the polling-units results are first-of-all keyed-in (or entered-in) into the ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION APP (which is inside the BVAS-Machine) by the Presiding Officers at the various Polling-units, which then transmits directly to the E-Collation-System for immediate collation.

The INEC’s “E-Collation-System” (that is, the CSRVS) is what we should seriously be demanding for at this point in time.

INEC had already used this CSRVS-System in the EKITI and Osun Elections, and it worked very well.

**(Frankly speaking...

The actual reason why the INEC decided not to use it in the Presidential Election is what I really cannot fathom..)

Inec decision to abandon e-collation of results is not a violation of electoral law or the constitution.
Inec as an independent body must remain independent in making and alternating Thier guidelines.

Good afternoon. Inec has granted obi's legal team access to information. It's an absolute exercise in futility.

What's your tske on this?

PrinceOfLagos:
Lol

I pity who no fear Peter Obi

Somebody that has never lost any court case before

A man that used this same court to get back his stolen mandate as governor of Anambra state twice

If care is not taken, Kwankwaso might overtake obi after all the over bloated votes have been deducted in Tribunal and obi will come fourth.

No be who first call police dey win case oo

Parachoko:
Yes you're right

By May 29, he will become useless in the APC.

Apart from that, Ngige is part of the (cabal) hurdles Tinubu overcame during his campaign.
Ask me how? With the way he intentionally mishandled ASUU strike before the campaign started.
He did that so as to smack Tinubu's electioneering image.

BluntCrazeMan:
Instead of you to answer my simple question inside the other uncrowded harmless thread,, you're here mentioning my moniker on another thread.

Nevertheless,, I will still respond to you..

Now..
Let me still drag you back to that same Electoral-Act-2022: Section-64; Sub-Section-(4);.(a-&-b)..

The words there are very clear.

We can all agree that the “Directly-Transmitted Results From The Various Polling-units”, as described inside the Electoral Act, could be done using any method on this earth, (be it “Optical-Fibre Transmission”, “Solar-Waves Transmission”, “Radio Transmission”, “Sonar Transmission”, and even “Seismic Transmission” too),, but definitely NOT “Manual Transmission”, because it wouldn't satisfy the expected requirements of the Electoral Act.


Section-64(4) of the Electoral Act simply maintains that, no matter the Method or Mode which INEC employed for the Transmission of the results (“Directly from the Polling-units”),, it MUST be completely done-and-dusted with before the Collations that are supposed to use the results from those polling-units would start.
This is because,, those directly transmitted results are the results which the Collation Officers at the various “WARDS COLLATION CENTERS” must use to satisfy the requirements of the Section-64(4) of the Electoral-Act-2022.



Therefore,, this particular Court-Ruling still didn't deflate my arguments..


Please read the Section-64; Sub-Section-(4):.(a-&-b) of the Electoral-Act-2022 again,, and explain it well to me,, just in case I am not understanding it very well..

Sorry I have been very busy lately, though it shouldn't be an excuse.

However, I dont think that there's much to argue here since we have agreed the electronic transmission of results is not enshrined in the electoral act.

This means that it's under inec guidelines and Inec as an independent body can choose whatever method that seems ok for them to collate results.
So, to save each other's time, let's focus on what the electoral act says rather than committing "legal sacrilage" by rewriting and misinterpreting the inec electoral act intentionally so as to suit our narrative.

Secondly, going through the electoral act and the constitution, I have noticed some words there and I would like to draw your attention to them.

1. Transmit

2. Directly.
Let get to know the meaning of these two words before I proceed with my defence further.

My lord, I rest my case.

jaxxy:
are u sure u can sleep with 2 eyes close?

The constitution states INEC will announce the procedure to be deployed for the election inline with BVAS.


Did INEC announce a procedure to the Nigerian people as stipulated by the constitution ore election?.
So what procedure did INEC announce b4 the elections?

better sleep and wake up and see ur stolen mandate has gone to the rightful owner.

Please quote which section of the constitution

jaxxy:
are u sure u can sleep with 2 eyes close?

The constitution states INEC will announce the procedure to be deployed for the election inline with BVAS.


Did INEC announce a procedure to the Nigerian people as stipulated by the constitution ore election?
So what procedure did INEC announce b4 the elections?

better sleep and wake up and see ur stolen mandate has gone to the rightful owner.

Please quote which section of the constitution

jaxxy:
when INEC announced it as the procedure according to the provisions of constitution it became law. anything else is illegal, highly questionable and unconstitutional.

Finally, I can finally sleep with smile on my face.
Are you related to Ali Baba the comedian
Lolzz.

jaxxy:
and guideline is a joke abi?

It's not a joke sir but it's non existent in the face of law

Where is , the dude has been quiet lately. Hope all is well with himm

jaxxy:
INEC stating the procedure accordingly to the constitutional requirements makes it mandatory.

No sir it's inec guidelines

bluntcrazeman, your attention is needed here

Atiku is reading the constitution upside down

tamdun:
Exactly, the manual transmission they are complaining about is more secure than electronic transmission

What I noticed is that, I think Inec dribbled everybody like maradona, even including those in APC.
Results were actually transmitted via electronic means not not in real time
Inec knew that many results were posted on social media, then they quickly abandoned real-time transmission of results.

Imagine if Labor party get "200" votes in a particular polling unit and they post the result on social media but inec irev is showing different figure, it might set the country ablaze.


Now I am beginning to see the "sense" in inec "nonsense"

miriamchi:
According to a recent data from INEC,14 of Nigeria's 36 State Houses of Assemblies do not have any female members.This includes Abia State....Ndi Isiala Ngwa South bikonu Ka Nwanyi Jeetu👏👏👏Miriam's mandate remains the best choice for our constituency at this point.We cannot afford to joke with the next four years...APP(elephant)is the logo to vote in 9 days from now.

Our prayers are with you. Go and succeed ☺️☺️

I see a vibrant, young and energetic guy with no "mind-lifting" or challenging vision for Lagos but "self-assigned" with a mission is to upset and tilt the political landscape in Lagos in order to please the Lagosians.
Sanwolu has my vote come Saturday

BluntCrazeMan:
@Jokay07
Please, are you still interested in telling me more about the true meaning of “Direct/Directly” as it is contained inside the Electoral Act.??


Thanks.

Please bear with me, I am a bit occupied. I will reply ASAP

Novarisammy2:
I have no business going into this muddy waters with you


just answer the simple question, is the bvas a product of the law or inec guideline?

a simple yes or no will do justice to this question

The question is unnecessary.
Bvas is part of electoral act and also inec guidelines

Novarisammy2:
is bvas and irev part of inec guidelines?

Are you asking if the ballot box and ballot sheet are part of inec guidelines too?

Novarisammy2:
which guideline are u talking about?

is the electoral law not binding on inec?

Electoral act is binding on inec but inec guidelines is not a weighty on the scale of the electoral act

There are three pillars holding inec as a body and the conduct of the election.
1. The Constitution
2. The electoral act
3. The Inec guide lines

The only two pillars which can be considered in a competent court of law are the constitution and the electoral act.

The third one which is the Inec guidelines are subject to inec decision and subject. Inec can choose to streamline or change or alternate their guidelines as long as it's consistent with the electoral act.

The electoral act didn't factually state that results must be transmitted electronically or manually. Now the burden of whether election results would be collated and transmitted electronically or manually rests on inec guidelines.

If the constitution or the electoral act says inec must conduct election every four years, inec can make a guideline from the constitutio/electoral act as to what month, date or week the election must take place.

Pierocash:
Supreme Court have the power to upturn results falsely declared when there are sufficient evidences that warrants such.

Supreme Court doesn't make recommendations, they tell you the guidelines you must follow or ought to have followed as stipulated by the electoral act

Inec guidelines is not recognized by the law.

BluntCrazeMan:
To the final question you asked,, the answer is No.

Like I earlier said, it was NOT written in black-and-white inside the Electoral Act..
But whatever the Electoral Act implied as “Directly Transmitted From The Polling-Units” is definitely not “Manual Transmission”.

That is the premises for my argument.

First of all, it's a good thing that you and I have reached a conclusion that Electronic transmission of results is not Factually stated in the act and this is a first win for Inec and Apc.

Secondly,
Emotions aside, your argument is totally flawed sir and you are arguing from a very disadvantage position. No serious court would entertain such blantant misinterpretation of electoral act.

You see, in law, any argument that cannnot be established with fact can also be dismissed without fact.
Let me see your response on this before I move on to the interpretation of "Direct/Directly" in the electoral act sir.

bluntcrazeman
This is the first time I will be reading this article of yours and I am really impressed. But if my memory serves me right, this would be the second topic as regards to the issue of "electronic transmission of results".

You should understand the fact that the interpretation of laws and constitutions are very elastic; with respect to individul's understanding and view.

Firstly, if your argument is factually based on "transmission of results electronically" in the electoral act, then you will need to withdraw and rest your case.

So I ask, is [b] "transmission of results electronically" [/b]literally stated or factually imprinted in the electoral act.?

That's the problem. Social media news.
Why don't you go to inec portal verify by yourself?

Workch:
More than 90% of the results has bee uploaded and different figures from what INEC declared in many PU, wards and local governments have been uploaded and APC is losing.


You can go through the portal yourself. Seem like APC was set up because INEC is providing hard evidence for Peter Obi to win in court.

Results from Obio Akpor local government alone, APC lost 68k votes while LP gained 67k votes as uploaded on INEC portals.

So who is winning?

When 2 losers merge together.

falcon01:
If kwankwaso and Peter Obi had marked, they'll be unstoppable Arewa Love Kwankwaso but they Know its a waste voting for him that's why they voted PDP but the south believe in Peter Obi and they give it their All.

Even nnpp failed woefully in the north

Goodlady:
Only ipobs do that. They are the ones with many monikers on Twitter too. Also, the way you guys threaten their lives makes them easy targets so for their safety, they ll speak truth here.
Move on with Obi's loss. This is a motherly advise

Seriously, I know it's hard to accept defeat but defeat should not be tribalize.
Igbos and ipobs should move on