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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 7:30pm On Dec 03, 2016
Anas09:
Just take my advice. Anytime you need to be human for a while, just say, 'Shut up demons, i need to be me for a while'. Do not always allow them speak for you.
lol thank you for the advice
You know you have the experience
Christianity Etc › Re: How Can One Be Free From A Tormenting Demon? by jonbellion(m): 7:29pm On Dec 03, 2016
Anas09:
[s]Theres something you don't still get. The voices you hear are the voices of the demons, not the humans you know. The humanity in them is so suppressed that they seem dead. Funny enough they experience these things, point is, they enjoy the sex these demons have with them and do not see it as torment.

How did i know? Theres was a thread here long ago by a certain fellow with the moniker MELIN, a Satanist.

I went into that thread, and most of the people making noise here were in there and shared their odeals with the night spirits.

They talk about sex with demons and how they can hanence more of their powers. They asking all sorts of questions.

They come out here and pretend.

Satan likes to hide in the presence of light.

Do not mind them.[/s]
damn

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 7:11pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Doctoring my comments as a joke shows you have nothing further to intelligently say. Thanks for your time.
not really just because it'll be another endless back and forth without anyone changing any views
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 7:05pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Godyahweh is lightthe Jewish lght! His light is the LIFE of men.was for the Jews alone Godyahweh in his power and gloryignorance can do whatsoever please him because he is a man child Did he begin life with seeds that began to spring up? We do not know! All we know was that [s]He caused plants to grow and SEED bearing plants.
[/s]we have used apologetics as a futile attempt to rationalise bible bull with more bull[s]God is sustained creation and still does. If it still stumps you then i have nothing more to say.[/s]Yahweh is for the Jews and for the Jews alone. If you want to become a Jew so bad
Then become a jew
You'll be too old for a bar mitzvah though
fixed smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:57pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
God is light! His light is the LIFE of men. God in his power and glory can do whatsoever please him. Did he begin life with seeds that began to spring up? We do not know! All we know was that He caused plants to grow and SEED bearing plants.

God is sustained creation and still does. If it still stumps you then i have nothing more to say.
*facepalm*
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:47pm On Dec 03, 2016
Anas09 I know it's the season to be jolly but in no way did I ask for a pack of demons for Christmas
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:41pm On Dec 03, 2016
Anas09:
I posted this in page two, it obvious you didnt read it. Let me repost it again for you.

Now, this is what you'd do for yasef. Tell the demons in you to shut up for a while that you need your humanity to be alive for just a moment, then use your humanity to read this.



The Bible didnt say that light was created. God spoke it into existences. APPEARANCE.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis:1:3



In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John:1:4

... and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis:1:2

And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John:1:5

That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
John:1:9

The light (Jesus) was the light which lighteth every man which comes into the world.


Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
John:8:12

See?

He was in the beginning. Before creation, he was.
He is not part of this creation.

He was before this Creation, and He shall be after this Creation.
lol the demons in mehuh
Did you dash me your own grin
Lemme also tell them to return
Wow
I didn't know you were freely distributing demons
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:37pm On Dec 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I tire for these mental gymnasts o!

he created heavens/universe, then created stars later?

do these Christian apologists think they're talking to gullible people?
the funny thing is that most of these thing have been considered allegories
You should see how bible literalists rationalise Noahs ark
Lol you would laugh so hard
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:29pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Let me make this simple.

Quote "Plants can survive without sunlight as long as they have another source of light in the appropriate spectrum, such as an artificial grow light. Plants can only survive in complete darkness for a finite period of time. Generally, plants that are in vegetative phases thrive on blue lights, while plants in flowering phases thrive on red and orange lights"

Gods light was a starting point but since the earth was not his abode he already planned for a permanent light source for plants and the earth hence the sun.

I see you have nothing else to say besides snide remarks.
I have to give it to the apologetic crew they actually taught this one through this time grin
Though I don't know where God said he was the artificial light though(this is just obviously made up)
William Craig has taught you well cool
This doesn't stop the bible being total bull though
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 6:08pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Can you spell comprehension?

Plants were created and seed bearing trees etc and then God "revealed" the sun to the earth or better yet, he removed the cloud he covered the earth with according to the book of Job so plant life can become self sustaining via photosynthesis.

Its too organised and simple not to see. God did not need the light to create as he is light himself. The light aka the sun was meant for use by the earth and had no use for him as God.
lol so Yahweh used his own light to sustain the plants
Before revealing the two great lights the latter that spends half its time moving through the daylight sky
Wow I never had any idea Yahweh was a disco ball too
Lol for "signs'
The bible is basically astrology and no astronomy
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 5:53pm On Dec 03, 2016
naijadeyhia:
You will always argue even after i have broken it into bits that even you could understand. Your crew fully understood which was why nobody could utter anything any further. You would do well to read my submissions again so you would not keep talking about stars being created on the 4th day even after i broke down the phrase "let there be" to you.
lol so lemme get this straight
In the beginning God said let there be light(the sun included
-he created the firmament
-he created plant life
-he "revealed" the sun according to you
And created animal life
Lol wow
Can Yahweh spell photosynthesis
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 5:15pm On Dec 03, 2016
Anas09:
The secrete is in THE HEAVENS. What does the HEAVENS there stand for?

Good News Translation Genesis 1:1 The Story of Creation In the beginning, when God created the universe,
so he then created the stars on the fourth day after creating the universe
Oooh my..........
I just can't
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Notorious Atheist Villians by jonbellion(m): 4:18pm On Dec 03, 2016
Pidgin2:
You Atheists lack understanding. Jesus brought a new perspective. His Kingdom is that of Peace. Yes, the old testament was instrumental in gradually changing the orientation of the Jews(the chosen race) but it was to be a gradual process. Take note, a Jew is not a Christian until he/she accepts Christ as his Savior and confesses Him. Christianity is a way of life. One cannot purposely go against the doctrines of Christ and still claim Christian, he or she is only deceiving himself.
okay
Then drop the old testament completely
And don't condemn gays sm
Don't follow the 10 commandments
Btw jesus said he didn't come to abolish the laws of the prophets and that till heaven and earth passes away not one drop of the law would be invalid
Not to mention if God is absolutely moral, the nature of right and wrong has already been set in stone . It surpasses space time and existance l. It isn't supposed to change
But it did drastically in the new testament
So jesus actually didn't change Sh*t
Christian morality is simply arbitrary like yahwehs
A good example of yahwehs arbitrariness was when he wanted to completely destroy the isrealites when he found that they were worshipping a golden calf but was talked out of it by Moses
If Moses knew that was wrong then the Abrahamic God really bleeped up
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 3:50pm On Dec 03, 2016
Neozy:
you understand this "mystery" so much that you're sure there's an eternal furnace awaiting whoever doesn't believe your tales

you understand this "mystery" so much that you know what he wants

you understand this "mystery" so much that you speak with absolute certainty when talking about him


who's deceiving who?.......
You Speak(or Maybe Type) Like Someone That Is Learned, Smart, Wise, Educated. But You Can't Be Wiser Than Your Maker. According To My Bible, There Will Be No Sun NOr Moon In Heaven, God Himself Will Be The Light. You Can Chose To Tale It Or Leave It, Believe It Or Don't. There Is No Point Argueing Since Arguement Won't Change Anyone's Believe. I Have Chose To Believe In God Because It Cost Me Nothing. Even If There No Heaven Or Hell I Have Got Nothing To Lose.
lol really
pascals wager
Gambling is a sin

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 3:24pm On Dec 03, 2016
LightandDarkness:
@foladara777 goodluck
lol our second closest star proxima centuri cant even emit as much light to cover the entire planet asin
Wow...just wow
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 2:58pm On Dec 03, 2016
foladara777:
U are a total joke... Ur (newly constructed) argument is that [b]there were other sources of light before the sun [/b]was created on the fourth day. My point is that these sources of light did not create daylight but the bible claims there was day and night on the first day before the creation of the sun on the fourth day... So tell me which other sources of light apart from the sun that can create enough light to to illuminate half of the planet...
Keep in mind that when the part of the earth we occupy faces the away from the sun, we have night-darkness.
lol other sources of lighthuh
We can't even see "moonlight" without sunlight
Ooh my God

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 2:33pm On Dec 03, 2016
Lol
If a holy book.was a math book and an apologist was a math teacher
APOLOGIST: this is the best and most accurate book you can ever find on math
From calculus to geometry 100% legit!!! cool
NEW STUDENT: ummm excuse me sir but on this very first page it says 2+2 is 10
APOLOGIST: what?
STUDENT:2+2 is 10
APOLOGIST: And that is wrong howhuh
Look man you can't get this book anywhere else
Anything it says is correct
You have been deceived by universally accepted mathematics
You see the number 2
Is actually a semi - circle and a line combined
2- so when you look.at the second 2 its the same thing
What you need to do
Add those two semi- circles together
It becomes 0
Add the two lines together
It becomes 1
So as you have seen for yourself 2+2 is actually 10
OLD STUDENTS:*tear* this explanation just blows my mind everytime
(old students gives standing ovation)
APOLOGIST: cool
NEW STUDENT: the fu........... huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 1:34pm On Dec 03, 2016
foladara777:
My interpretation?? No, science says the sun is the major source of natural light , ur bible contradicts that and u want to twist the words of the bible to be in line with that scientific fact
that's what apologists do
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 1:25pm On Dec 03, 2016
foladara777:
So when God said let there be light, it was not creation?? What was it then?
lol dude dude
This is what religous apologists do
Rationalise thier beliefs
I was arguing with a muslim one time
The Quran says man was formed with a drop of water from the ribs which is wrong
You need to see apologetics
Also the fact the Quran says the sun moves around the earth
It was so obvious
The person said it was talking about revolving round the milky way
I was just like......

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Bible Correct When It Claims Light Was Created Before Sun. by jonbellion(m): 1:17pm On Dec 03, 2016
Why are apologetics like this huh
Loooool
Oh my God
There where even two creation accounts in the book of genesis
Chaii
Going this far to rationalise the stone age instead of just dropping it
Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Mental Illness :charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Thomas Henry Huxley by jonbellion(m): 1:04pm On Dec 03, 2016
Apart from that jackbizzle there are two creation accounts in the bible.
You would think that the existence of two contradictory creation stories would be a problem for believers in full biblical literalism and young-Earth creationists - it's practically the running joke of Biblical literalism
Obviously apologists exist to try to rationalize thier nonsense
We cant even see moonlight without sunlight
The moon isn't luminous
Plant life was before the sun
Earth stated four dats without sunlight grin
There was day and night without
sunlight grin
Vegetation in a three day old earth without sunlight grin
Please christians can Yahweh spell photosynthesis grin
Ooh wow
The Abrahamic God is a m*ron
If the sun should go out all the planets would fly off into outer space
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Notorious Atheist Villians by jonbellion(m): 11:06am On Dec 03, 2016
realmindz:
Yeah...They were all created by Yaweh who had the ultimate plan

And I tell u, Yaweh will be impressed and satisifed with their works

Christianity Etc › Re: Young Earth Creatiomism??? by jonbellion(op): 10:27am On Dec 03, 2016
ScienceWatch:
What is the problem ? It is 6000 yrs old. Highly educated Mentally unstable people have used their influence to con and deceive the masses.

Charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Thomas Henry Huxley and Nietzsche all shared certain common experiences and a definite psychological pattern of insanity is evident.

Their early childhoods were marked by some form of spiritual training. They were men whose dominating, overbearing and even abusive fathers led them to rebellion and renunciations of God.
They endured cold, ruthless parents, grew up in an environment of bullying and abuse often done in the name of God.
These boys hated their fathers, these spiritual wounds festered a rebellion against a hostile father they identified with a hostile God.

They made it their lives work to destroy the God who had come to symbolize their father.

Charles Darwin – he lived the greatest portion of his life in deep depression, there is a history of mental illness in his family. He believed his dad had the power of prediction; He had an endless catalogue of psychosomatic illnesses and lived as a semi invalid barely past thirty.

Thomas Henry Huxley- he detested his hot tempered father he suffered terrible bullying at school and had a terrible fear of insanity, which ran in his family. In fact his father died in an insane asylum. Thomas Henry Huxley will be remembered by the public merely as the athiest man who held that we were descended from the ape, or as the apostle of Darwinism, The Big Bang.

His hatred of God was rooted in the fear that the insanity in his family was caused by unclean spirits. He believed he had been poisoned by vapours from a dead body. After his only son dies of scarlet fever he detested God and believed he was cruel, hostile, angry and indifferent to suffering.
Mentally unstable people??
*facepalm*
The earth is not 6000 years old
The universe is not 6000 years old
No physicist in his/her right mind would say we live in a 6000 year old universe
Even if Noahs ark was true it is impossible for natural selection to produce a wide variety of animals in just a mere 6000 years
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think The Human Race Needs To Stop Breeding And Go Extinct. by jonbellion(m): 7:04am On Dec 03, 2016
dalaman:
Your views are extreme and don't make any sense I must say.
too extreme
Too too extreme
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think The Human Race Needs To Stop Breeding And Go Extinct. by jonbellion(m): 6:57am On Dec 03, 2016
GrizzlyBear:
Writing this isn't a privilege. And I wish they had not procreated me in the first place. Why would I wish any different?

If I had this level of understanding I have now as a baby in the womb, I would have strangled myself with my mum's placenta.
shocked
Wait what huh

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think The Human Race Needs To Stop Breeding And Go Extinct. by jonbellion(m): 6:49am On Dec 03, 2016
Maaaan Grizzly you need to chill yo shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Reasons Why Atheism Is On The Rise by jonbellion(m): 4:18am On Dec 03, 2016
If I were ever to become a thiest I'll be a diest
Not christian eww
OP your bible is a load of "2000 year old left out in the sun to dry" bullcrap
Christianity Etc › Re: An ATHEIST Has A Very High Possibility of Mental Illness Researches Reveal by jonbellion(m): 4:04am On Dec 03, 2016
ScienceWatch:
[s]Atheism is a mental illness….
The insane men who founded atheism also have the greatest influence on Psychology and Psychiatry, Charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud,

Thomas Henry Huxley and Nietzsche all shared certain common experiences and a definite psychological pattern is evident. Their early childhoods were marked by some form of spiritual training. They were men whose dominating, overbearing and even abusive fathers led them to rebellion and renunciations of God.
They endured cold, ruthless parents, grew up in an environment of bullying and abuse often done in the name of God.
These boys hated their fathers, these spiritual wounds festered a rebellion against a hostile father they identified with a hostile God. They made it their lives work to destroy the God who had come to symbolize their father.

Charles Darwin – he lived the greatest portion of his life in deep depression, there is a history of mental illness in his family. He believed his dad had the power of prediction; He had an endless catalogue of psychosomatic illnesses and lived as a semi invalid barely past thirty.

Thomas Henry Huxley- he detested his hot tempered father he suffered terrible bullying at school and had a terrible fear of insanity, which ran in his family. In fact his father died in an insane asylum. His hatred of God was rooted in the fear that the insanity in his family was caused by unclean spirits. He believed he had been poisoned by vapours from a dead body. After his only son dies of scarlet fever he detested God and believed he was cruel, hostile, angry and indifferent to suffering.

Nietzsche – Grew up with no male role model, he was a repressed homosexual and a victim of syphilis, depression and senility. He blamed his mom for the death of his father.
Sigmund Freud – he believed a female is a failed boy and he was obsessed with the incestuous conquest of his mother and rivalry with his dad. The desire to have sex with his mother and kill his father haunted his dreams. He believed women wanted sex with there fathers and stories of rape and molestation were fantasies. Instead of victims these women were villains.

These four prophets of atheism and many more all had powerful domineering fathers. They were fearful, weak, submissive kids. They all grew up with a history of headaches, depression , obsessive fears, extreme shyness, intestinal disorders, and made it there lives work to destroy God who had come to symbolize there fathers.

“ Its Madness”
View full article here:
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Atheism-is-a-mental-illness-20120413
[/s]
your bullshit is becoming too much
You go to synaguoage church of all nations and you have the guts to accuse another set of humans of mental illness
Either you got dropped on your head or you've been ingesting too much of TB Joshuas fluid
Christianity Etc › Re: An ATHEIST Has A Very High Possibility of Mental Illness Researches Reveal by jonbellion(m): 4:01am On Dec 03, 2016
ScienceWatch:
[s]Atheism is a mental illness….
The insane men who founded atheism also have the greatest influence on Psychology and Psychiatry, Charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud,

Thomas Henry Huxley and Nietzsche all shared certain common experiences and a definite psychological pattern is evident. Their early childhoods were marked by some form of spiritual training. They were men whose dominating, overbearing and even abusive fathers led them to rebellion and renunciations of God.
They endured cold, ruthless parents, grew up in an environment of bullying and abuse often done in the name of God.
These boys hated their fathers, these spiritual wounds festered a rebellion against a hostile father they identified with a hostile God. They made it their lives work to destroy the God who had come to symbolize their father.

Charles Darwin – he lived the greatest portion of his life in deep depression, there is a history of mental illness in his family. He believed his dad had the power of prediction; He had an endless catalogue of psychosomatic illnesses and lived as a semi invalid barely past thirty.

Thomas Henry Huxley- he detested his hot tempered father he suffered terrible bullying at school and had a terrible fear of insanity, which ran in his family. In fact his father died in an insane asylum. His hatred of God was rooted in the fear that the insanity in his family was caused by unclean spirits. He believed he had been poisoned by vapours from a dead body. After his only son dies of scarlet fever he detested God and believed he was cruel, hostile, angry and indifferent to suffering.

Nietzsche – Grew up with no male role model, he was a repressed homosexual and a victim of syphilis, depression and senility. He blamed his mom for the death of his father.

Sigmund Freud – he believed a female is a failed boy and he was obsessed with the incestuous conquest of his mother and rivalry with his dad. The desire to have sex with his mother and kill his father haunted his dreams. He believed women wanted sex with there fathers and stories of rape and molestation were fantasies. Instead of victims these women were villains.

These four prophets of atheism and many more all had powerful domineering fathers. They were fearful, weak, submissive kids. They all grew up with a history of headaches, depression , obsessive fears, extreme shyness, intestinal disorders, and made it there lives work to
destroy God who had come to symbolize there fathers.

“ Its Madness”
View full article here:
http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Atheism-is-a-mental-illness-20120413
The results of a study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.

New information from a 22-year old study at a German University [/b]has many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world wondering if atheism is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing.

[b]Doctors are searching for a gene
that might cause a correlation between serious mental illness and what they are calling “overt atheism.”

[b]For the time being psychiatrists [/b]and research psychologists in Germany and Switzerland are calling this medical anomaly, “The Misfit Syndrome.”
Doctors at the University in Hamburg have been investigating the connection between religious beliefs and overall mental health and the results of the study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.
View the full article here:
http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-as-a-mental-disorder-or-illness-new-studies-say-yes/[/s]
Christianity Etc › Re: An ATHEIST Has A Very High Possibility of Mental Illness Researches Reveal by jonbellion(m): 4:00am On Dec 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Please stop derailing this fine-ass thread
the thread was a joke from the start

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