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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:33pm On Nov 20, 2018
Martians!
Kazikazi:
Who's building your Kenyan railway?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:18pm On Nov 20, 2018
You are arguing with beings having a low IQ. Goodluck in your endeavour !
Lionessza6:
LMFAO, sweetheart check yourself before talking about who and what Chinese own in Africa grin. Zulus and their stupid whites are very far from being owned by China, you should check yourself on the list of countries that owe China and kindly check our position after grin. They build what here ?. Show me one single infrastructure built by chinkos in south Africa grin. Those thugs from chinises jails could never be allowed to build their fong kongs here , we prefer quality to quantity grin. Keep your Chinese trains to yourselves, we will continue building more trains ourselves . It's not our fault that your government chooses to empower foreigners instead of using your own companies and empowering your own young engineers , scientists and technicians grin. We would rather make blunders while trying than not even attempt anything .Made in south Africa by soutg Africans .........
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:11pm On Nov 20, 2018
The KCSE exams tests you to the marrow.Our standards are high no doubt.When I go back to the Kenya forums or just Facebook groups made up of Kenyans,you see people reasoning out stuff so maturely and this get's you to say,''We have the brains"

A Kenyan form two student would do well in Nairaland,I'm sure they would think the form two from Kenya is a University student! Don't Nigerians have debates in their schools,write essays,go for academic trips and stuff? They just seem dumb.It's only that forgiveness guy who has tried to present his case well but has failed! Others would just call you stupid and write nothing of substance.Just from the posts you can tell this one is a Nigerian and this one a Kenyan. When this thread was at like 1000 pages,there were some few Nigerians who would really post issues and we would thoroughly tussle with facts.I just don't know where they dissapeared to! It seems that they too couldn't handle the heat from us!
rvp2018:
You've got to respect Kenya education standards. I have been to many Kenya online forums - when they were the in-thing - somewhere in 2000s - about 15yrs -Mashadas grin- and I can tell you I never met Kenyans who were so boneheaded like these guys.I have passed by TZ forum(jamii) - they at least hide behind swahili - which I find so hard to read. You can imagine this guy [forgiveness] is probably the best they've got smiley just like KaziKazi is leading light of Danganyika.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:46pm On Nov 20, 2018
This thread is not primarily a 'culture thread'

So,you wouldn't see much of Kenya's culture posts here!

ednited:
The reason why you said this is because I said I only know the massai people? You haven't quoted Ethiopia but it looks like that.

You need to take it this way too. . .maybe you guys aren't also informing about yourself well. Kenyans in here know about TPLF because we Ethiopians talk about it here. How many times have you guys informed us about your culture. As a kenyan nation, that was also your responsibility if you want people to know about you. Am not saying you havent informed us about your country, yes you did. But you havent done enough on your culture and tradition. Just make sure you did your part
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:44pm On Nov 20, 2018
It's easy.You steal like 200 million from every billion and still do a fantastic job with the 800 million balance! wink

People will still see your work and acknowledge you as a workaholic governor.In the end,that's how politicians play us all!
Yobeezy:
Thanks for the response but I also felt that everything that has likes must have dislikes too.
As you have said,devolution has promoted money laundering and corruption in some instances but for the case of one of our visionary governor for machakos county,he has been applauded as among the most working governors alongside with the governors of kakamega,kisii and kisumu counties and yet rumours have it that he has been alleged to have engage himself in money laundering activities,how worth is this yet we can see some of the development fruits he has brought to the residents of machakos county?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:24pm On Nov 20, 2018
I think you settled this with rvp2018. And the clear winner was seen.But your brains have always been small to pick whose ahead of the other.We ranked higher at 25 in retail,higher than you.We showed you how your telecom sector isn't really making the money commensurate with it's population and even GDP.In the banking sector,your bank assets don't just seem to match that big good for nothing GDP.Our numbers are really solid per capita wise.This is our point.Take it or leave it.It seems Yemi Kale has really done your heads that your thinking has been limited.You just don't see the broad scope of things.When Kenya has 3 x,Nigeria with that GDP and population shouldn't be having 4x or 5x but rather 9x or slightly more! We are talking of a 350 billion GDP that should be showing more not slightly less to Kenya or worse!
forgiveness:
Kenya is still below the pecking order in regards to the service sector compared with Nigeria. grin

These are verifiable facts from independent organisations. grin

After I done with you in the service sector, you will become mute. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:58pm On Nov 20, 2018
Devolution should have been there since independence in my opinion. It has been transformative in the sense that we are opening up new investments at the grassroots levels in a much quicker pace than before. I've personally felt it but just like the World Bank says,we need to strengthen it.Going forward,I need to see the economic blocks made up of various counties doing big things.On the other side of the coin,it has been controversial in the idea that it has devolved corruption and lead to over-representation. However,I always choose to remain an optimist,devolution to me is one of the cogs that we needed for our growth and prosperity. I need to see more funds channelled towards strengthening devolved governance.

Overall to me just like the way a Kenyan would put it,devolution has been a gamechanger.It's the best thing to have come since sliced bread.If we strengthen it,we will reap much from it without a doubt!
Yobeezy:
Since the ammendment of 2010 New constitution,devolution has been the most transformative and controversial aspect of Kenya's governance,to what extent do you agree or disagree with this statement clearly labelling relevant examples?
Please my fellow Kenyans let's engage our brave discussions here.

Cc rvp2018,Jonraid,Kur17,TayserMahiri,gallivant,kikuyu 1,tlann,mtisTheQubuit etc
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:36pm On Nov 20, 2018
My Nigerian lass says it every time
bantudra:
heyyyyyy....!!!!...thats pidgin..... shocked shocked shocked shocked
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:34pm On Nov 20, 2018
Make you no vex me!

darfay:
Inferiority complex @ it's peak. Wetin concern pidgin for una discussion
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:32pm On Nov 20, 2018
We just came here to debunk what Nigerians see themselves as.We are here for the banter! This is not to say that Kenya is near to the gods,but the message we are passing across is that Nigerians are the biggest cheats! What makes it sweeter is that it's a Nigerian who started this thread! We are only buttressing his points!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:19pm On Nov 20, 2018
Your English is perfect.It's not like its pidgin or something! wink
Lionessza6:
You are the British colony here grin, former colony ....my English need some serious revamping I tell you cheesy. How much do you charge per lesson ? grin grin. Hope you are not as expensive as the Queen' s real lads lol.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:06pm On Nov 20, 2018
Kenyans are more informed,well a majority of us are.We just don't go around making ignorant statements.I can't wake up one morning thinking that all Nigerians are Igbos and look like such!
Kur17:
You may wonder what kind of education they get esp Nigerians and TZs

They think all Kenyans look like our athletes and that everyone is a Masai, at first I thought they're just making a mockery of us, kumbe that's what their average brain contains...

They even sound more ridiculous our economy is driven only by foreigners ati India and whites..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:02pm On Nov 20, 2018
And that's what I've meant by "revamping"

Wouldn't mind some English schooling if I'm still on the wrong!
Lionessza6:
Actually it's not a new development , these technical schools have been around forever, they just needed more funding so that we won't all run to the universities for proper skills. Now our artisans are some of the best paid in Africa , which reduces the influx to universities yearly .
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:54pm On Nov 20, 2018
It's nice seeing that you are now revamping your technical education.As a matter of fact,we are doing the same.We were nearly plunging into a degree crisis(many Kenyan students were on a white collar job courses,Universities were preferred as technical institutions struggled with the numbers) but we have beaten the problem and made technical education the 'thing' right now.The economy needs those who will be doing the dirty work,glad that the government saw this and intervened.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/education/State-to-enroll-1-million-students-in-technical-colleges-/2643604-4676206-9yotrp/index.html

Lionessza6:
South Africa doesn't mind taking pointers from others , that's how we have come this far, so don't let it go to your head, just like you will never see us beating our chests when you learn something from South Africa. We know it's not how much you spend , but how effective the system is , which is why so many changes have been made including pumping much money on skills development programmes and government run artisan colleges . To test the effectiveness of such systems , the government initiated this project below and others like operation Phakisa(building of boats);

On Thursday, 25 October 2018, the President of South Africa, Mr Cyril Ramaphosa will officially inaugurate South Africa’s flagship train manufacturing plant in Ekurhuleni, the first of its kind on the African continent.

This plant is where Gibela will build PRASA’s new fleet of 580 modern commuter trains – by South Africans for South Africa. Be part of a new chapter of South Africa’s rail industry history – you can watch the official opening of the factory here

http://www.gibela-rail.com.

The young people employed here and at operation Pg
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:34pm On Nov 20, 2018
Here is the information about Kenya's tribes and its demographics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Kenya

https://venasnews.co.ke/2016/02/10/list-of-kenyan-tribes/

ednited:
wow, now I know. I've been asking about tribes in Kenya but no one passed me the info
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:24pm On Nov 20, 2018
Even though there is the 'urban poor' case.Counties in Northern Kenya are the ones leading in poverty rates(we ought to do better here!).Well,I didn't know being a pastoralist with like 500 heads of goats and cows means you are poor.But let's leave it at that.It's not how much you spend in education that makes the difference,it's how you do your things.It looks like we might school you a bit when it comes to ironing up your education sector.There are some few lessons you can learn from us!

https://www.biznews.com/africa/2018/03/05/south-africa-kenya-education-schooling

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Kenya/South-Africa/Education
Lionessza6:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Kibaki-s-free-school-puts-Kenya-ahead-of-South-Africa/539546-4806484-mo1lyu/index.html

Hahahaha , here we go again. How many of the people in south African leadership are not well educated ? . What is the percentage of the populace that is illiterate and uneducated compared to black Kenyans?. We need to invest on education? grin. Check how much we spend on education and check yours as well , and let's see who needs to do more.

Lol, I said good luck with overtaking us , I'm guessing that will be happening in like 2 years or so now . Quote me when that finally happens grin. Kenya and South Africa are too different what you claim worked out for you, we just don't see it ever working here .

So the Kenyans who are living under extreme poverty are only those living in semi- arid regions ? Really?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:12pm On Nov 20, 2018
‘A flawed metric’


“Unfortunately, [the doctor-to-population ratio] is a flawed metric,” The ratio doesn’t reflect the geographical spread of doctors or whether they

are in private of public practice. And not all doctors are able to provide the same service, as some may be specialists.



forgiveness:
Look at Kenya's Healcare system. 1 doctor to 5000 patients.(see snapshot 3) shocked shocked shocked shocked

Nigeria has a ratio of 1 doctor to 2000 patients yet we lead all in Africa. grin


In terms of Health care, Nigeria is ahead once again.

I will still do the Real Estate sector. Busy now. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:58am On Nov 20, 2018
Is that the best you could have come up with?
4kDdullard:
slave
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:57am On Nov 20, 2018
When they just begin to take those farms,whether by diplomacy or force.The first thing is that the stock exchange market activities would fall down like a house of cards within a few minutes.Investors are very sensitive to a country's stability.Huge monies would later be sucked off from the bank coffers of the country as the wealthy stash their cash in safe havens.No one would risk it keeping his/her money when things are in mayhem.That's how things goes,I hope this won't be the scenario in SA! I think they'll engage with a consultancy firm with a reputable experience in such matters so as to not make things more murkier!

An economy can fall within days,literally!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:35am On Nov 20, 2018
You using 'lads' is the coolest thing today!
TayserMahiri:
Dont get worked up Lioness. We are trying all we can to keep this civil because we dont want to hurt your ego. Though we kicked out the British, once we were satisfied that the vast majority had left we decided to keep a few. So after most had left, Kenyatta called the few remaining ones (less than a thousand) to a meeting and told them; Ok now lads! You can stay here and be as Kenyan as any. Those once had their land back. And the reason they were kept is because Kenyatta could see what Mugabe couldnt. That you needed skills to run those farms, right after independence - because we had little to none.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:32am On Nov 20, 2018
Boko Haram says hi!
4kDdullard:
How can the giant of Africa lose? We aren't slaves like you folks and we will do everything our powers to liberate Kenya and other African countries from the shackles of colonialism.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:29am On Nov 20, 2018
If its by swimming,I'm afraid that's going to be a long swim! You might as well ask our West African brothers how they do it!
Lionessza6:
Trump' s stuff and the American embassy in south Africa debunked the tweet as fake news .

Malema is good at what he does and does entertain us , but he is no decision maker in south Africa. There is a reason why he doesn't rule any town or city in south Africa grin, we enjoy his presence in parliament and the streets only . We have no plan, we will join our African brothers and swim to Europe grin, or start jumping boarders looking for food lol.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:23am On Nov 20, 2018
If Injera and Anjera correlate then I can say that I've taken the meal.There are Ethiopian restaurants in Nairobi BTW,maybe I should go there? It

seems that Injera is a household name in the horn of Africa,including here in Kenya.Have you personally taken some Injera? grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1exTIxVkaE?t=65


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLfcaMSgyPQ?t=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjx5kjR2vc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np82kB2xIAU?t=2

rvp2018:
Injera is ethiopia staple food - made from tuft or rice - more like bread - with toppings.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:05am On Nov 20, 2018
A fifty fifty arrangement would be much safer,the lands not in use by the white farmers might also be repossessed back.Taking all of it from the white farmers would be a huge gamble.The continuous growing of the economy is one thing and satisfying the black masses in expense of the economy is another.Anyway,they should come up with a win win plan for all or else risk taking their economy down on a downward trajectory!
TayserMahiri:
Ok you dont have to attack us in style grin We can only wait and see what you have in store for us. Somehow I think Ramaphosa is way to smart to mess the economy like Mugabe. He'd know where to put the breaks. Whats the plan tho? I still dont know what you have settled on. Can I chip in? The best would be to take a few lands per annum. Do it like lottery where all white farmers play and the unfortunate winners get their land taken off. It would be a very exciting game on national TV. And start with all the white south african dudes on this thread grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:57am On Nov 20, 2018
As the world moves towards less fossil fuel driven economies. I don't know where Nigerians would stand! At that time,governments would be using more of cleaner sources of energy! Dubai and Saudi Arabia are already planning to cut their reliance on oil! Nigeria should diversify more than they have now because let's face it,oil still contributes significant amounts of revenues for them.They may say that they are a diversified lot but up till now,when the oil price per barrel changes the economy goes with that change!
rvp2018:
Sound like a lame excuse - all currency devalued to the dollar (Kshs was 78 then shoot to 100sh) - obviously if we use the real black market exchange rate for Naira - which is what you real get - not CBN rate - then you'll be worse off.

Your overvalued currency is still not done with beating - real rate is something 400 naira plus. Just wait for oil price to drop.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:43am On Nov 20, 2018
Every president in Kenya was keen to leave behind a legacy,you know? The presidents want to stand up one day long after retirement and brag that they did this or that,I find this cool by the way! The man Uhuru Kenyatta is also keen to have that long lasting legacy.I'm afraid he will have to do much.But with the right moves,he will do it!

The 'legacy talk' is so big that even the media are doing it.They are discussing what the president might be remembered for when he leaves his office!

The president was wowed when a young girl student asked him about his legacy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VArrcUZ_U5k?t=36

Lionessza6:
It's good of him to be working towards a memorable legacy , it seems very few African leaders are keen on that.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:25am On Nov 20, 2018
I know a Somali food known as Anjera and yes Injera is a player of Kenya rugby,he's either number one or two in the number of all tries scored in the rugby seven series.I'm yet to know what Injera means! But I'll find it out just for you
ednited:
You guys are serious in rugby lol. You guys have a player named 'injera' right? 'Injera' is our food here. . .

What do Injera mean in your country language?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:20am On Nov 20, 2018
Nigerians have a thing with dark skins,maybe they find it ugly. Seems everyone is either lightskin or white in Nigeria!
ednited:
Yes, there is no winning in nature. Dark skin, light skin, Brown, big lips, small lips etc. . .

only nature is perfect, it was all made for a reason. It is also beautiful. If you don't learn how beautiful and perfect it is, it is very sad. Personally, sorry to say this but I rather prefer looking like an African than white. I just love the way we naturally look.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:15am On Nov 20, 2018
The Kenya Rugby fans

The best in the world! All nationalities would love sitting at the Kenya fans section in the stadium because we are 'cool'

Sitting with the Kenyan fans is 'priceless' wink

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:03am On Nov 20, 2018
Kenya Rugby

Rugbeh! Rugbeh! Rugbeh!

Picture one and two showing them lifting the president. Buhari would have died of heart attack if same was did to him!

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 10:02am On Nov 20, 2018
Keep the jokes coming!
samsobo24:
you've simply shown your ignorance with that comparison,you say Nairobi doesn't need bus station, its because Nairobi is backward.

Kenyans always giving me an impression that kenya or Nairobi is some sort of heaven.kenya remains inferior to Nigeria.
Nairobi is so little to Lagos.
Ibadan overides,outshines,outclasses Mombasa in all spheres of life
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 9:40am On Nov 20, 2018
Even Mariakani,a small town along Kenya's highway has a better station than that which you've posted! Nairobi does not need a BRT model transport system.It just needs commuter trains.We are putting emphasis on trains instead of buses!
samsobo24:
Lagos public transport system, one of the most advanced in Africa,Kenyans only shout,let them show me any of their bus terminus,transport interchange, water terminus,Brt buses,I doubt if their major roads have brt lanes

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