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I thought Nigerians were raking in crazy amounts in billions of dollars in their media and entertainment industry,I was wrong! There numbers aren't that impressive with their 197 million population that should offer them a much larger market than Kenya.

kikuyu1:
Haiyyee!! I had no idea; thanks! More proof our economy is even more diversified than we Kenyans course know.

It seems that your job is all about being nice and building rapport with everyone

ednited:
Yes. I did that for you to understand. I will try not explaining my self that much. Thanks for your comment

You love explaining yourself much.You didn't do a crime asking about tribes.It's totally fine

ednited:
I liked the traditional clothes on the third pic. Thanks for answering, I just asked about your culture to see your clothes. I also hate trying to talk about tribe stuffs but what can I do, the current situation of my country bring the topic.

I use to get hurt when every Ethiopians ask what my tribe is. . .it is now more sad and heart touching that other nations are now asking me that.


There was a song which says 'She asked me what I am. . .i am going to say her I am human. Whatever our look and our blood is. . .our father is one and our mother is one and it is Adam.'

And 42 million Nigerians live in slums out of the 83 million living in the Urban centres.

42 million! Your numbers are just ridiculous!

https://www.theatlas.com/charts/SyTl-o2Z-

68816419:
No wonder you have UN habitat HQ there,
here is what UH habitat has to say about how developed kenya is.
funny Kenyans.!

Slums on water was a new concept to me until I met Nigeria's case!

tlann:
and why cant they be changed why havent you changed them our govt is doing alot of slum upgrading in our slums what is your doing about your slums like that floating one

If in 2017,the telecom and media industry in Nigeria generated a combined revenue of 7.3 B USD. How is this five times our revenue in the telecom sector?

Still no answer to this.I thought that Nigeria makes billions in media and entertainment but still their numbers aren't that impressive!

If you take media plus telecom you get -7.3 billion revenues!

The Runalong333 guy adds to say that we are paid British Propagandists !

I got to admit that was hella funny!

If any of you Kenyans is paid to be in Nairaland then you got to get me into the payroll haraka haraka!

He said that Lionessza6 handed her the spokesmanship duties!

He adds to say that he is currently on a Rand paycheck which is more nice than being paid in Naira ever since he took his duties!

I pity the lad much!

TayserMahiri:
Do you understand how much wealth the new black led SA govt had to work with from 1994? We are talking about inheriting a former nuclear power. Even Nigeria with all your oil could not stand the kind of education infrastructure SA could build in just a decade. And I dont like the way you, a Nigerian is hiding behind SA so that you are now flexing like a south african. Lets have this discussion with south africans. You should be making the case for Nigeria. Dont be an SA wannabe. You are still from the Nigger Area in case Lioness hasnt reminded you.

Is this a question? Wow!

68816419:
I am still asking u same question, when the roofing systems are changed how would it look?

The Entertainment and media Industry report by Pricewaterhouse Coopers

For Nigeria's 2016-2021

“Of the $2.8 billion that the Nigerian market will add between 2016 and 2021, all but $452 million will come from Internet access revenue. The combined elements of TV and video will add nearly $200 million in revenue growth to 2021,” PwC said.

For Kenya's

The report says Kenyans E&M industry was worth $2.1 billion in 2016, up 13.6 percent on 2015. Revenue is forecast to grow at an 8.5 percent compound annual growth rate (CAGR) over the next five years, hitting the $3 billion mark in 2020, and totaling $3.2 billion in 2021. “Internet access is the most established industry within the Kenyan market, boasting the largest revenues and one of the highest growth rates to 2021,” PwC added.

Links

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Entertainment--media-revenue-to-hit-Sh329bn-in-next-5-years/996-4119976-kjkyjj/index.html

http://investadvocate.com.ng/2017/09/21/nigerias-entertainment-media-industry-revenue-hit-2-8-billion-2021/


I'm waiting for Yemi Kale to say that Nigeria's media industry is worth 10 billion US dollars!

If in 2017,the telecom and media industry in Nigeria generated a combined revenue of 7.3 B USD. How is this five times our revenue in the telecom sector?

https://itpulse.com.ng/2018/07/12/nigerian-telecom-and-media-industry-generated-of-7-3bn-revenue-in-one-year/

68816419:
Man stop being stupid and accept defeat for once, as of the year 2014, we generated closed to $10 B from our telecom sector, and you generated at most $2B then , and we have more impute now than then meaning we now generate more. currently we generate at least five times of what Kenya generates in this sectors.
why would you even dare comparing your self with us when we have higher PPP ,GDP and per capital income than you?

You hail from the poverty capital of the world.How about that?

Here is some more British propaganda https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital-report/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mwv9KRt7k?t=5

Runalong333:
You are trying too hard buddy . I live in both countries and know them better than you do , I don't depend on British propaganda for news like you idiots clearly do. My knowledge is based on not just living among the people but seeing what changes are being made or have bern made. So kiss my nyash if you think having a clue about what I'm talking about is deamining who I am . Silly idiot

Trying sitting on two horses might as well mean demeaning Nigeria.I know you won't get it! You are new here.We have debunked what you guys think you really are.And it's that you are far,very very far from being the Giants of Africa!

Runalong333:
Hahahahaha beaten by whom ? Kenya ?. You have beautiful country , I'm not jealous to admit that but you are not where you think you are , take a chill pill and work harder to improve .

The status quo remains,you are ignorant and immature! Only a beaten fool can think that we are British columnists attacking Nigeria!

Runalong333:
You failed to explain your flawed generalisations whem asked to and got beaten at your own game . Scammers and liars trying to act posh and knowledgeable at the expense of other Africans.

It's funny how you support SA and at the same time you demean Nigeria that South Africans are their masters.You are a rare breed indeed!

Runalong333:
I never stopped supporting South Africa, but had to attend to your nonsense about Nigeria as well. You failed to adress my posts about you and black south Africans anyways , all I heard is the worship of few white lords that your kibera behinds can't even come close to mimicking .

You failed to understand our posts because you cannot decipher the simplest of explanations.You are so ignorant and immature!

Runalong333:
I never stopped supporting South Africa, but had to attend to your nonsense about Nigeria as well. You failed to adress my posts about you and black south Africans anyways , all I heard is the worship of few white lords that your kibera behinds can't even come close to mimicking .

We humbled you when this conversation was more mature back then.Go back to page one,it seems you are still a toddler as far as this thread is concerned.You guys have nothing to stand upon!

Runalong333:
Yes , because there is no winner . That is why a nigerian vs South Africa, or vs Morocco or Algeria even Botswana wouldn't go this far but look at this thread

Why don't you go back supporting SA. This whole conversation has taken a huge turnabout! Weren't you the guy acting the South African defender?

Runalong333:
Guy , not many people care nor know about Kenya. This is the truth, I'm not saying you don't have much going for you, but when outsiders think of Africa, Ghana , Nigeria and South Africa are always the countries of discussion not Kenya . Kenya when you talk of wild animals and where British oligarchs want to stash their wealth lately then yes .

This thread was in 2007 and it clocked one of the highest traffics.Positives from Nigerians have been seen.Kenya isn't perfect but Nigeria is a disaster unexplained!

Runalong333:
A Nigerian , a bitter one at that. Nigerians don't hold back in criticising ourselves or our country, you should be aware by now. If you check well , the reaction this thread got was of shock and disgust. If it were South Africa, it would have been like two pages filled with personal insults ,because we wouldnt have much to talk about . But Kenya? No my guy. I agree you have a lot of positives and a much more laid back country, but you are not where you think you are

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A commentary by Valentine Obienyem, the Special Assistant to the Governor of Anambra State (in Nigeria).


ONE of the most profound pronouncements from a Nigerian Minister was the remarks by the Federal Minister of Education, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili. The Honourable Minister said that the Government would review the criteria for the award of honorary doctorate degrees by universities. The bastardisation of awards in Nigeria, which has also crept into the Ivory Towers, is worrisome to well meaning Nigerians.

Ideally, not everybody has the opportunity of pursuing education up to doctorate level, when you are certified as a true expert in your chosen field. However, some people with the requisite experience, even more experienced than academic doctors are conferred with honorary doctorates. We cannot quarrel if any University confers honorary doctorate on person like Chief Austin Ilodibe in transportation, because he is truly experienced even more than the books on transportation. What we quarrel with is placing cash values on the awards, thus honouring even little minds that stumbled into money and use it to buy their way without any form of experience. The key word is experience
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Talking about experience, the wise one says that education comes one fourth from schools, one fourth from experience, one fourth from the teacher and one fourth from travel. We gain much from these sources if we are positively disposed or confront them with open minds. A good example is the refrain of Nigeria being the giant of Africa. The notion of being a giant has made most Nigerians suffer delusions of grandeur, to believe that Nigeria is the first in terms of everything as far as African is concerned. You need the experience of travel to know whether this is true or false.

At the risk of sounding immodest, I have travelled widely within the sub-saharan Africa: Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea (Conakry), and Senegal. Abidjan and Accra are good cities in their own rights. But talking about places like Liberia, Freetown, Conakry, you talk about some primitive, uninspiring towns, where women still go about the towns in the happy ignorance of their unclothedness.

Recently, I had the opportunity of travelling to Kenya, Nairobi, with my Governor and boss, His Excellency, Mr. Peter Obi. Before Mr. Peter Obi became the Governor, he was the Chairman of Fidelity Bank and a Director in many other banks and companies. As a banker and a successful international business man, he moved around the world, from temperate to tropical zone from East to West and North to South attending one course or the other, one conference or seminar or the other.

However, since he became the Governor, he has not been travelling except strictly on official tours. He kept postponing the day he would visit his family in the UK, until the children became tired and had to come to Awka to see him. You may call this the demonstration of the fact that if the mountain cannot go to Muhammed, Muhammed will go to the mountain.

Recently, the Governor had a reason to travel to Kenya. Passionate about having Master plans for Awka, Onitsha and Nnewi, he had to travel to Nairobi to meet with the United Nation HABITAT and Shelter Afrique. Seeing the passion and the eagerness with which the Governor pursed this, the Organisation, as well as Shelter Afrique, promised to help him. Commending him, the under Secretary and Chief Executive of UN HABITAT, Dr. Anna Kajumulo Tibaijuka said that the Governor was a good example on true governace.

Typical of him, to save cost for the State, he travels, locally and internationally with a few people. Beyond saving cost, he always says that those in power find it difficult to relinquish power because they surround themselves with many aides that the prospect of surrendering power becomes frightful to them. Obi reminds me of Chief Chukwuemeka Chikelu, who, as Minister, would go to the counter at the Airport and do things for himself. Once I asked him why, and he said: "I do not want to live a borrowed life even as a Minister, so that any day if I cease being one, it will be easy to continue my normal life. In the case of Governor Obi, he usually tells us that being a Governor will not make him not to live his normal life.

Accept my apologies if I have digressed a bit. On the trip to Nairobi were the Governor and I. We flew Kenyan Airways, which is inscribed "The pride of Africa."


This at once aroused a sense of regret in me as a Nigerian. Is it not the place of former Nigeria's Airways that Kenyan Airways has taken? If not for mismanagement, what would have been of Nigerian Airways? At the time our Airways was functioning, was it not far bigger than Kenyan Airways in many respects? These are necessary questions.

At Nairobi, I saw what was beyond my imagination. Let me go straight to the verdict: Nairobi is far better than any Nigerian city you can possibly think of, including Abuja. Once at the Airport, you are bound to admire the order pervading the entire place. Though not as busy as Muritala Muhammed International Airport, it is better organized. In fact, some people told me, unverified, that the airport was built at the cost of Twenty-Five Million Naira (equivalent); while our own was at the cost of over Two Hundred Million Naira. But the two are big as to relatively cost the same.

Driving from the Airport to the town was a pleasant one. I took time looking at the street lights, and behold not even one bulb was not lit. Straight, we drove to Nairobi Serena Hotel. In fact, when we got there, because it was night, I could not really compare Nairobi and Abuja in terms of aesthetics. But when it was down, I saw Nairobi in its unclothedness.

Being an old city, Nairobi roads are not so wide. However, unlike our own disordered cities, Nairobi is clothed with flowers and the buildings are superior to most that we find in Nigeria. The transport companies, especially the ubiquitious Citi Hopper are far better that intra-city buses in Nigeria. Foreigners enter it with ease, no standing, no careless driving.

Working with Governor Obi is business not pleasure, he makes sure you add enough value to the trip to justify your travelling with him. Though as we were about to land at the airport, some places of interest such as Giraffe Park, Animal Orphanage, Nairobi National Musseum,etc were announced, but we did not go to Nairobi for a picnic, not with my Governor, but for business. On our return, as we touch down Nigerian soil, Kenyan Airways did not announce any place of interest in Nigeria. This is instructive.
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However, in the spirit of adventure, I still managed to look out. Close to the beautiful Serena hotel is the Uhuru Park, a spacious park for recreation. If it were in Nigeria, corner shops would have taken its place. But in Nairobi, it is well maintained, and I understand such parks are all over the place. As you move along Nairobi streets you see public conveniences, neat and properly maintained. It will certainly be a source of revenue. In fact, it made me remember a king who built urinals around his kingdom, his son protested on why trying to make money from such a dirty place. When the money came, he took some close to his nose and asked: "Do they smell of urine?"

Nairobi is amazingly clean, especially when juxtaposed with Abuja. Without Okada plying the streets, you will not even see a single sheet of paper or pure water nylons on the ground. No wonder the city attracts foreigners. At Serena hotel, 98% of the guests are foreigners. You are therefore left to imagine how much the country makes on tourism. One Nigerian there said that what oil was to Nigeria was what tourism was to Kenya.

I had the opportunity of visiting University of Nairobi. Right inside the city, it is a reflection of the entire city: neat, organized and exuding scholarship. In my venturesome way, I interacted with some of the students and was not disappointed.

Nairobi has good hospitals, good schools and good weather. Though Nigerians seem well-to-do, but Nairobi is more of a human society than our disordered country controlled by bedlam.

Two days in Nairobi was a pleasant experience. As we touch down at Murtala Mohammed Airport, I was nostalgic about Kenya. A city where I did not witness police taking bribes openly, dry taps, power interruption. A city where right-hand driving is still in vogue. At our airport, we had to wait for some minutes for the generator to be put on, because the conveyor belt stopped when NEPA interrupted power. Regrettably, this was a reminding welcome to Nigeria, the land where,

British hired propagandists?

You are really loosing it.Go have a cup of coffee.It would calm down your nerves!

Runalong333:
I think your story is even more depressing. Little population, little problems, whites and Indians to help you yet you are still starving and living in slums and remote areas ? . Clap for yourselves for being the dumbest imbeciles ever to grace Africa . Nigeria has had a lot more to deal with and the mineral curse like most nations but we are still here and kicking butt. South Africa is what ? Are they not giving you a headache even with the mountain of issues they inherited? Why are you still behind people you call illiterates?. When your country was ripe South Africa of all races was born , crawled while you were still lost , walked and found you only learning the art of running . That is why you are bitter at them. They had way less HDI to you in 1994 , but today you are behind them. They had bad healthcare for blacks but are you fairing any better today , because they have picked up. They had way worse standard of living than the average African with little access to water and sanitation, are they not fairing better than you today under their illiterate leaders? . Kenya is all about mouth and predictions and nothing more . British hired propangandarists

Trying to get everyone against us.Too shy to admit that he's from Nigeria!

NairobiWalker:
He was Nigerian all along. I wonder why Nigerians and Tanzanians here have to pretend to be South African to engage us. Is it inferiority complex? This proves we're doing ourselves a disfavor arguing with them. We should be looking at South Africa.

And yet a Nigerian started this thread? Back in 2007.A Nigerian posted about Nairobi in Nairaland. Who cared much about the other?

From 2007 discussing about Kenya? Thanks to all Nigerians who made positive comments about Nairobi in this thread!

https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east

Runalong333:
Hahahahaha, with every resource any African country has had , they had to deal thousand more problems than you. Don't come here to play victim as if you don't have anything in Kenya , the Tanzanian guy has been exposing your black nyash every day. You might not have a lot but , why not work with what you have to solve your little problems roblens and stop acting big when you are just irrelevant to everyone . If you notice everyone from Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa knew little about you and never bothered to check any facts about you because we never cared for Kenya . It's only now that you attention seekers have gotten our attention. You mean your elites and their whites would have been far ? . You would still be starving like you do my guy, Kenyan elites only care about pleasing whites not you slum dwellers .

Crazy how some people think that we are paid or that we are British columnists!

Nothing of substance here!

Runalong333:
Sent packing by a dominated willing slave like you? . My friend abeg, don't start with me. I don't have whites and dirty Indians coming to my country to rent my wife and daughters for sex , that's what you broke niggas do over them and then come online to play big boys lol.

I'm talking of South Africa.if it's about Nigeria then this makes it a more boring convo than ever! Kenya has its issues but Nigeria is a different sad story altogether!

Runalong333:
We have been helped by what whites . Mr guy ,Nigeria has been up and down on her own without any whites involved don't get this twisted.

Oh shut up , Kenya never had anything close to our coup and war not to mention the 400 year trauma of the South African populace. Compared to the hardships experienced by the two countries , you should not be even competing with them , we should be thinking Kenya vs Singapore , but hey ?.

You sound like some British columnists , they should just get over apartheid, you do know what that system was about right?. How is talking about their economic, educational, parental and general societal breakdown for so long an excuse ?. You are struggling to deal with the little problems you have , and want to compare with people who had to start from the ground two decades back with so many things , the most important being forming and identity and quality education. Who compared black American and South Africans? . My point here is that you make it seem like you are better off than other Africans yet you are starving , have a lot of illiterate people, slum dwellers and far too many foreigners holding you by the balls in every decision you make with regards to your economy. Nigeria is still chaotic but we are not starving to death while a minority of our leaders are selling the land we need for food to whites to build shiny buildings while their own people back home have plenty of food . With your great education we would expect you to be the throwing hundreds of Shuttleworths at us . We would expect to see better trains built by you, but no . Lol. Foolish if you ask me .

He is taking his dose of Nyaope as they call it there in SA.Let him come,I'll sent him packing back to Mzansi!

rvp2018:
I hope you're busy getting some education - not engaging in criminal activities.

We have just busted his arrogance! That he now resorts calling others 'primates'

Runalong333:
I'm not done with you Kenyan primates just yet , I will be back for you later . I'm busy .

Every African country had its own problems.The spirits were high after uhuru(independence) but we were just not experienced running a government.You still had the whites who assisted you in that all along till now.We also had our Shifta wars which really slowed down our momentum along the other a 1000 plus one problems we had.Stop making it seem that we were a peace haven.We have heard attempted coups,tribal clashes and high profile murders that stabilized our unity and not forgetting our good peaceful neighbor in Somalia has always boarded us. This apartheid finger pointing just sounds like the way African Americans are still blaming slavery up to this age and time.I would although give slavery of the African Americans a slightly different view cause being taken to places far from your land to a different continent for slavery was a bit extreme!

Runalong333:
My friend , you have said nothing here . The South African girl asked you for your literary rate and so did I, where is the ranking ?. She asked you to provide the number of educated Kenyans at independence vs those in south Africa ( black ), we are yet to see this .

I said black kenyans got their independence in 1963 and the South Africans in 1994. Meaning your deluded behinds had 55 years to fix yourselves without any coups and wars or disruptions from world powers. South Africa had 24 years to fix herself , with a lot economic sabotages and problems inherittited from apartheid yet they are your competition . That is why I said you behave like losers with self esteem problems. Nigeria is going through her own problems and still feeling some effects of the war yet we are your competition, even though you had a lot of " peace" in your journey . Now imagine if South Africa and Nigeria didn't go through those hardships . We probably would have a lot of Shuttleworths than you. Yes Indians and whites do dominate the strategic parts of your economy , go and hang yourself if that hurts to listen to.are there any whites and Indians in your kiberas? There are plenty of them in south Africa showing some changes taking place , but we would never see such in Kenya .nigeria has her own masters and they look like me lol.

References or credible links is something that our compatriots don't show whenever they spit up their garbage. Kenya does not run this continent but we are no push overs either. We recently said of Algeria and SA being true economies,rvp2018 and the rest can attest to that.But someone coming up with mad claims of our economy hanging on the mercies of foreigners should have to mention who this foreigners are,their percentage stake in the economy and their business here!

Anything less than that won't be taken seriously!

Back up that verbiage cause we will not buy it!

Come up with the data showing non Kenyans running the game in our economy!

Runalong333:
Hahahahaha, my friend you like playing the ecapee role like thief. I know you read my long diatribe but could not counter it with and sensible come back. I don't think there has been any Asian domination in south Africa, I was talking about Kenya. Not in your past but today . Kenyans after 1963 are still dominated by the British and Asians and lately Chinese and we see no way out for you, atleast if South Africans play their cards right, there is a lot of hope . You have condemned yourselves to be perpetual economic slaves all in the name of being " investor friendly" . The people in kibera and other growing slums are growing in frustration while you are busy analysing the rest of Africa, like I said you seem out of touch with your own reality lol. You want black south Africans to show you a Shuttleworth yet your masai behind can't even produce his personal assistant with your so called superior education . Nigerians are not economic slaves , we rule our own universe unlike your British butt asslikers . Kenyetta and the few privilledged who own your land are busy selling your birthright to multi nationals while you idiots are busy forming educated online . Continue . South Africa is minding her land and education challenges, that is why they media is buzzing with such news , but the willing slaves in East Africa think they are home free because there are more British expatriates making money out of them calling themselves Kenyans . Take your economic power back from them and let's see how much sweet their praises of you wi be . Nigeria is the monster of Africa on their news not only because of our failures but because we would never open ourselves up for the kind of domination you idiots clearly enjoy . Rubbish people.

Even the biggest company that paid the largest amount of tax in our country is 40% owned by the government.Our biggest source of revenues in tea,coffee,horticulture and remittances are from Kenyans themselves.It is so foolish,sad,pathetic,and ignorant from someone to claim otherwise.When Al Shabab were running the riot,investors from our bourse(NSE) and tourists fled our market in droves.The economy remained resilient and shocked our naysayers.Hotels survived merely by the domestic tourist Kenyans and government and private sector conferences.How can someone then claim otherwise?

rvp2018:
He is Nigerian based in South Africa. Just like KaziKazi is Tanzania based in RSA. Lionez is a South African.