₦airaland Forum

Just because a car can cruise at 180 kph doesn't necessarily mean that's the speed you'll be travelling at.We were expecting our passenger trains to move at 140kph as that was the top speed in the speedometer of the locomotives but that is not how things work.Since it's a single track,expect a much lesser speed.The more the stations=the more likelihood of a much lesser speed.The more the trains schedules on the single track=the lesser the speeds.Let's see if your SGR will be category one or two!(double stack and more haulage tonnage ability of the rails)

Kazikazi:
Soon we will be at Kigali and eventually DRC and Uganda.Mind you this is electric.Passenger goes for 160km/h and cargo for 120km/h.This is Tanzania.

Continue living in delusion.You can tell that Nairobi is better than Lagos from this Vlog. He definately had a much better time in Kenya!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYZi88Dl8CU

forgiveness:
Hahahaha! I tell you. Only Nairobi. Two cities in Nigeria are even far better than Nairobi.

Kenya's passenger train travels at 120kph which is a descent speed considering from Mombasa to Nairobi we have over 33 stations! And the railway passes over National parks!

For freight is at 80-100 kph

EU is typically 100 kph (freight)

USA 96.5kph (freight)

China 100/100 (freight)

Russia 90/80 (freight)

Australia 80/70 (freight)

Germany 60/60 (freight)

Is it practically possible to transport freight using high speed trains? I'm waiting for the Tanzanian line that would transport cargo containers by

means of using bullet trains.What people should understand is that our trains were meant for Cargo,the passenger option was just a bonus.

Below is a typical freight train in the UK!

Positives from Kenya today

1. Two Kenyan companies have been named among the Top 50 emerging Fintech companies in the world in this year’s KPMG FinTech100 report.


https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2018/10/two-kenyan-firms-named-in-world-emerging-fintech-companies/



2.Kenya’s attractiveness to investors improved 19 places, the World Bank has said in it's latest ranking on the ease of doing business.

The rankings show Kenya advanced to position 61 out of 190 economies from 80 in 2017.


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/10/31/kenya-makes-gains-on-ease-of-doing-business_c1843838

https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2018/10/breaking-50-kenyan-government-ibm-research-collaborate-improve-countrys-ease-business-ranking/

https://www.facebook.com/248578828508174/videos/432908690571653/


A double stacked container train! Click on the link for the video

There are racist people all over the world,but just because there is a case of citizens of a particular country being racist shouldn't mean that we

immediately cease working with such countries.Kenya will continue it's cooperation with China.A good number of Americans are racist but that

shouldn't mean that we stop working with the American Gov't.Arab countries especially those from the gulf mistreat Africans,should African

countries cease it's relations with them? Britain colonized Kenya,should Kenya then stop its engagement with Britain? What we should do is deal

with the racist especially if they happen to be on our soil.The government did well in deporting the racist Chinese.We should be able to decipher

the difference between citizens and their Gov'ts. The Chinese embassy in Nairobi was quickly to distance itself from any racist Chinese and it

even liaises with the Kenyan Gov't in deporting such citizens! I can tell why the New York Times reported this story,there has been a feeling that

China's cooperation with African countries is a threat to America's geopolitical interest in this continent. To close it,Kenya should be careful with

any engagement it makes with any foreign power.As long as foreigners troop into your country either as tourists or investors,some of which are

racist will also be in the group.What really matters is how you deal with such issues!

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7wFleW03-k

China's Racism in Kenya

The Focus on China-Africa Cooperation Summit held recently in Beijing may have died down. But the impact of decisions made there have elicited a rigorous debate on China’s role in Africa.

Chinese officials say their foreign aid to Africa has seen the construction of 6, 000kilometers of railroad and 5000km of highways, but all these development marvels have come at a cost to Africas independence.

When a video of a Chinese man ,using deragotory and racist words towards Kenyans including the president surfaced a few months ago, Kenyans went ballistic online. There was finally proof of the many allegations of racism experienced by Kenyans in the hands of Chinese employers and supervisors.

Countless Kenyans came forward with their stories and experiences of disgusting racist treatment especially at their places of work. The Chinese investors that the government let into the country in a bid to create jobs and opportunities for the many unemployed citizens came with a lot more than just jobs.

Workers in Nairobi swap stories of racism and discrimination they have witnessed. One described watching a Chinese manager slap her Kenyan colleague, who was also a woman, for a minor mistake. Other Kenyan workers explained how their office bathrooms were separated by race: one for Chinese employees, the other for Kenyans. Yet another Kenyan worker described how a Chinese manager directed his Kenyan employees to unclog a urinal of cigarette butts, even though only Chinese employees dared smoke inside.


What stood out the most were stories of Kenyan employees at the Chinese built Standard Gauge Railway, a project that promised countless job opportunities as well as learning experiences to many. At the inauguration of the project, two Kenyan women operated the train as the cameras clicked away and everyone clapped in jubilation. The celebration was not to be long-lived.

Several things came to light a bit later. Kenyan engineers have been prevented from driving the trains except in front of cameras. In interviews with The New York Times, several current and former locomotive drivers agreed that only Chinese drivers got to operate the train, describing a range of racist behavior. “‘With uniforms on, you won’t look like monkeys anymore,’” Fred Ndubi, 24, recalled his Chinese supervisors saying. Two other workers with him offered the same account.

Richard Ochieng', the Kenyan man who recorded the viral racist video of the Chinese man, in an interview with New York Times, brought to light more issues. The realities of his salesman job did not even slightly match the expectations. The pay was a fraction of what was initially offered, and subject to deduction for a long list of infractions. “No laughing,” was one of the injunctions printed in the company rules. Each minute of lateness — sometimes unavoidable given Nairobi’s notorious traffic — came with a steep fine. An employee who was 15 minutes late might be docked five or six hours’ pay, he said.

His new boss, a Chinese man his own age, also started calling him a monkey. It happened when the two were on a sales trip and spotted a troop of baboons on the roadside.

“‘Your brothers,’” his boss exclaimed, urging Richard to share some bananas with the primates. And it happened again, with his boss referring to all Kenyans as primates.
Humiliated and outraged, Richard decided to record his boss’s rants. The rest unfolded online with the Chinese man being deported by the country's authorities.

The cases that have come to light recently are just but growing branches of a tree long grown. Sometime in 2015, a Chinese restaurant with a controversial policy of barring black Kenyans after 5pm was shut down by the Nairobi city council.

Having only known about racial discrimination from history classes and foreign news, episodes involving discriminatory behavior by the region’s growing Chinese work force have unsettled many Kenyans. Concerns about racism and discrimination are a growing part of the conversation about China’s expanding presence in Kenya and will continue to be especially with the government endeavoring to forge closer ties with the economic giant from the East.

We need a brilliant president coming 2022.An economist possessing 'Kibaki-esque' qualities.I hope Musalia Mudavadi will be on the winning coalition.

He is Kibaki's political son and a brilliant economist.He could have been Kenya's president if Uhuru didn't change his mind in the last minutes! Going

forward, we need to increase the development throttle to achieve our vision! Raila and Kalonzo are good diplomats known all over the world,I

wouldn't mind either of them.Not convinced much about Ruto but let's see!

Kur17:
Looking back where Kenya was a decade or so ago, it was so rare to see any positive survey that Kenya ranked ahead of SA, nowadays it's almost a tie in terms of HDI/HCI. ...We've already made a tremendous strides, this(Ke)must be a success stories in the making...

We are the largest diversified economy in Africa.What propels us is our people.Kenya has one of the best if not the best educated workforce in Africa!


https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/datahub/Kenya-leads-rest-of-Africa-in-employee-productivity-race/3815418-4828046-10ea3ko/index.html

Beaten hands down! Bring clear answers and counter my arguments!

forgiveness:
*Yawn* when Kenya is doing well, just halla me.

What is Nigeria's education budget? Nigeria's education budget is a paltry 102,000,000,000 billion Naira which is 280,000,000 million US

dollars whilst Kenya's one is at around 4.3 billion US dollars! Nigeria is a big joke!

Does that GDP bring money into your treasury coffers in terms of revenue? Have a look at this!




https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

forgiveness:
When Kenya's GDP reaches Lagos, hala me.

Well,we don't eat GDP! I hope you are not in some dinghy trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea journeying to Europe!

forgiveness:
Those poor Nigerian are richer than all the whole Kenya's middle class.

It's not like Kenya is totally roses,we also have our issues.But we are good in some indices,continentally speaking.But Nigeria calling itself the Giant of Africa is pure comedy!

MPSA:
You were trying to prove our fake Giant wrong, Nothing personal . Well done Kenya, You deserve that title of Giant of Africa , Your infrastructure is perfect.

The remaining are the respectable poor(those not below the poverty line) all the classes of the middle class and a few rich guys!

forgiveness:
The remaining 100m rich and Middle clas population will feed the whole Kenya.

Changing lanes when you can't answer a question? What a daft cunt you are!

sasol:
I can't present you detailed specifications of gautrain.why? You have more pressing problems to address than a train.Your education department needs more attention,poverty eradication programs are limping,embezzlement of public funds are ernomous,institutionalized corruption, lack of visionary leadership and simply speaking most of your governments projects are not synchronized.Down here are a glimpse of what is in the ground of Kenya's citizenry.

How is that passenger train sophisticated than Kenya's SGR? On what metrics is it sophisticated?

sasol:
I know Kenya or Nigeria is incomparable to our south Africa,what I meant is you need to work harder.What you have currently is nothing in today's high tech world.Yes gautrain isn't for cargo but can any of you think of having something similar or more sophisticated system?

The SGR Kenya was mainly designed for cargo! How does it compare with what you are posting.Can that train pull up 200 containers and do double stack?

sasol:
Good to see some development happening in other African countries,but you guys you need to work harder to catch up with south Africa.As we speak we are in final stages of extending gautrain to Soweto and surrounding townships,most sections of gautrain are underground.Nigeria is a non performer.

This thread is about Kenya and Nigeria.I'm not discussing anything apart from that!

sasol:
Good to see some development happening in other African countries,but you guys you need to work harder to catch up with south Africa.As we speak we are in final stages of extending gautrain to Soweto and surrounding townships,most sections of gautrain are underground.Nigeria is a non performer.

The Nairobi Naivasha Duka Moja Super Bridge in section 6 of the project,the tallest pier has a height of 46 meters.Some excellent engineering going on here!

Says the African country with the largest poor population!

forgiveness:
Kenya government na oga for stealing.

The Sasol guy isn't even a week old in Nairaland. From the grammar,you can just smell it's a Tanzanian!

Kur17:
When the grammar sounds like from kazikazi, the wordings sounds like from kazikazi....then this must be kazikazi/jobjob

The continent has a lot to learn from Kenya.Likewise Kenya has a lot to learn to the other countries in the continent as well. African cities can learn much from both Kenya and South Africa's cities!


https://www.news24.com/Africa/News/african-cities-can-raise-more-money-sa-kenya-offer-useful-lessons-20181024

Captain Koki in the third picture,I absolutely adore this woman.She's a go getter!

gallivant:
Kenya Airways and KAA hosted a business delegation from the US, led by the undersecretary for international Trade Gil Kaplan. The delegation includes reps of Bechtel, Visa, IBM, Overseas Private Investment Corporation, Acrow Bridge, Amethyst, Citi, General Electric, IBM etc.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgsKVVAWAAAyeEa.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgsLyHAX4AAsVGE.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgsJGO9WAAAYpoN.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgsbB0vX4AAYDGP.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhWnIgeW4AEMm9N.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhWnIiTX0AITwku.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhWnIkPWAAAesIr.jpg

Well,you are the one taking it seriously here!That's Kenya's banter for you! As for Kazikazi,we just view him like that madman throwing rants in the village wanting to get some attention,the guy desperately wants to bring Tanzania into this conversation and we are just not rolling with him! I guess someone should remind him about what this thread is all about! And as for you,this is a debate not a date! Don't expect roses in here! Girl,you are too diplomatic!

ednited:
Dear Kenyan nairalanders, stop acting like this. Let us stop treating each other as enemies. I know you are going to tell me that you aren't taking things seriously but you actually are. I had to quote you guys to stop arguing because I know you more on naialand and I know you aren't the type of people who are annoying. It really shocked me how you treated Kazikazi. You thought I was siding with Tanzania because I quoted you more than him to stop arguing. You didn't know that I did it because i felt easier talking to you. I am not making this up. When I was doing that, you started taking me as your enemy. I am not siding with either of you. Take my statement as you want to but this is what it is. I have used inappropriate words here because I was disappointed enji I never saw any Kenyan as an enemy and Kenya is still one of my favorite countries in Africa, so is Tanzania. There is nothing you can do to to change that.


Peace and love y'all

From the looks of it,it's a big project no doubt!

Horus:
This is a huge, vast, gigantic, colossal project

With the new railway passing here and having a station at Rongai,this little town can only get better.Wonder how much I can get for an acre?!

gallivant:
Ongata Rongai - Kajiado County


https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5330/30472251713_c82640462f_h.jpg

Keep on wondering in your delusion.The TAZARA is nothing but a poor man's SGR!

Kazikazi:
That is what Tanzania did in the 70's when we built Tazara railway.nothing new.

The ever raised Kenya's railway! (Phase 2 which is under construction)


1.Pillars that hold the rails.The pillars can sometimes go as high as 50 meters above the ground!


2.Embankments showing the rail that is suspended over firm subgrade cuttings!

Have seen quite a lot of them at Kenyatta University.Well,we boarder the Habash guys to the North.So that's pretty normal I guess!

Kur17:
Evidently you are in love with Ethiopian ladies, it's easy for you to come to Nairobi and get one/some, they're thousands of them here working in a goat abattoir called "KiaMaiko"

This is lovely...this is magnificent....this is awesome!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJcbRjqlfic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM5AxW6_99o