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Awesome01:
How can we allow this happen.

Just imagine a midfield of Modric, Kross and Thiago

Don't believe everything. It won't happen.

ollah2:
Well, it better be another De Jong

Its not that Dejong.

ollah2:
De Jong might be a Barca player. I'm honestly not interested in this season

why do i have a feeling you r thinking about the bald de jong, the dutch midfielder.

tesppidd:
So Everton wants to collect Yeri and Andre?

They are welcome.

As in ehn, thats the best news we can have this transfer season.

patrickmuf:
Before Xavi and Iniesta and Busquet template, others were working before...
Liverpool overran City with a midfield of Hendo, Wijnaldum and Chamberlain and I am sure you'd tagged that midfield as gidigbo midfield but they did great in stifling City and creating chances for their attackers. Here, you are severely underrating a Rakitic with license to attack (at Barca, he has had to adapt his game to cover for your overlapping 2 thus limiting his attacking contribution), Vidal on the other hand is no pushover, he attacks just as well as he defends as long as he is fit. If your complaints was about his recent injury record then I'd have nothing to say but to question his quality is laughable and it's a pointer to the arrogance most folks associate with Barca fans...

Ok.
If Rakitic has to adapt so as to cover for our overlapping RB, What makes you think Vidal won't be saddled with the responsibility to cover for the ever attacking Alba.
I'm not questioning the qualities of these players, I'm questioning the ability of both of them working together as a midfield combo in a 4-3-3.Rakitic and Vidal are very similar, one is just an upgrade of the other. it's not rocket science in football that playing similar players together is recipe for disaster. We need a controller not another player offering Grit.

As for arrogance, there's nothing to b arrogant about, We wey dey ja for QF for the past 3 seasons.

Sommyroy10:
You seem to underate Rakitic. Rakitic can get as attacking as you want, Sevilla (where he was given freedom to Rome 13-16 goals/season and 5-8 assists/ season) or Croatia, where when Modric attacks he covers and vice versa. Vidal on the other hand was loved by pep, and made more appearances than any other Bayern midfielder during his tenure. The same Man city midfield lost to Liverpool's midfield. If juventus midfield of Khedira, Pjanic, Matuidi, could hold off a Madrid's midfield of Casemiro, Kroos, Modric, why won't Busquets, Rakitic and Vidal not work?

Lol. I'm not underating Rakitic.

I guess we just have to wait for the season to start then we would see who's right or wrong.

3200.
I mark register.
I say again and again Vidal Busquets and Rakitic won't work in a 4-3-3.

patrickmuf:
Busquet is a shadow of himself same with Pique...Why you want to trust your whole DM role to an ageing and slow Busi is what I don't get. Coutinho can't really function in a midfield 3 unless the other two are DM's or defensively minded. Klopp tried it at Liverpool when he played Mane on the left, Firmino as ST and Salah from the right with Coutinho just behind them but he quickly changed tactics as his midfield was easily overran...That Madrid midfield looks aesthetic on the eyes but in truth, they define what grit and creativity in midfield is, for all his flair, Modric is defensively very sound just as Kross who can comfortably hold his own defensively.
And to correct you, Roma didn't beat Barca because of gidigbo or whatever you call it midfielders, Valverde's inexperience cost Barca, he fielded his strongest lineup in an inconsequential game instead of resting players, the lads were fatigued thus were easily outrunned

For a 4-3-3 to work effectively, the midfielders have to be players who can offer cover for the defence and help defensively too. (we all know this) but Modric and Kross are first Very technically gifted players that can hold their own against any team. they are first technical and creative before helping out the defence not defensive minded with little or no technique nor control like what Vidal and Rakitic starting together would mean for us. Pep milked life out of Xavi, Iniesta and all other players aside Messi by observing the 5 seconds rule and crowding out the opponent before they could think. One of vidal or Rakitic would offer cover for busquets, Not both. We aren't a defensive side. Casimero, Coutinho, Paulihno played very well together for brazil and phil thrived.

Rakitic/Vidal would offer cover for busquets, Vidal can come in if we need to see a game out and all that but not as a starter alongside Rakitic. too similar and would eventually be easy to figure out for opposing teams.

As for the Roma game, if you read my reply to sommyroy, i talked about the tiredness and the clueless Valverde too.

Sommyroy10:
But it was gidigbo players that knocked us out last season. And how many natural defensive midfielders do we have? It seems we are having 5?

Gidigbo prevailed over a clueless, tired team picked by Valverde. 9 out of 10, Technique and control defeats gidigbo.

TLona1:
Thoughts?

My brother its dead on arrival.

patrickmuf:
Rakitic can play as an AM or CM while Vidal is a box-to-box CM with inclination to attack first so whatever you mean by gidigbo, I don't know...Football adapts over time, your smooth midfield trio of Xavi, Busi and Iniesta that worked so well some years back might struggle now thus it's always good to adapt.
Grit in midfield doesn't necessarily entails lack of creativity or limited creativity, it only accounts for a lot more protection of the back four...Pique is not as good as he used to be just as Busi has dropped his performance level, if you leave them exposed, you'll pay for it thus I see nothing wrong with a midfield trio of Busi, Vidal and Rakitic...

First off the midfield trio of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets in 2008 to 2013 would work perfectly now since Casimero, Kross and Modric has worked perfectly for Madrid, if Debryne, Silva, Fernandiho worked perfectly for City last season. so this automatically strikes out you narrative of adapting from smooth to Grit or gidigbo.

Then when playing 4-3-3,(like a very effective one, the kind we played in those glorious years 2008-2016) the 3 midfielders have clear roles. A carrier(Iniesta), A controller (Xavi) and the Defensive midfielder (Busquets). Under Enrique where Xavi aged and diminished, Rakitic couldn't do the Xavi role hence Enrique had to build around the devastating front 3, with Iniesta still playing as the carrier and Messi been messi double checking as the controller and a forward.

A midfield trio of Vidal, Rakitic and busquets has nothing on technique, has nothing on fluidity, has nothing on attack intact. Who is the controller?, Who is the carrier?, who dictates play?..Its not just about running and running. Messi can't do all that again if we hope to get messi in the final third a lot more. Opposition teams would build a wall round Messi, Phil and Suarez like Juve did in 2017 and thus leave the clueless midfield struggling because they have grit over sense.

I understand if you say Vidal won't be a starter, maybe just for squad depth but if he must start then Rakitic has to go. One of them has to be on the bench, both can't and shouldn't start in a 4-3-3.

patrickmuf:
Still a 4- 3- 3 with Phil on the left, Suarez through the middle and Messi on the right...If Suarez is misfiring, Messi might take his place and Dembele or Malcolm man the RWF...
[color=#000000]In the midfield, it'll be less of flair but more grit[/color] with Busi, Rakitic and Vidal...

This is the exact reason we were whitewashed in Rome last season. This is 2018, one defensive midfielder is enough. Not 3 FFS!


Trickery and technique over gidigbo.

tesppidd:


It's not that baaaad!!

Relax

We still have youngstars like umtiti, sergi roberto, semedo, coutinho, arthur, malcolm, dembele,

Vidal is only a mercenary to win the champions league

It's do or die

First off i don't think he's the player he was 2 years ago.Knee Injuries can be career damaging for anyone. Also i see this as Valverde sticking to his foolish 4-4-2 and that would hurt the growth of some other players(youngsters as you call them). Imagine him playing a midfield quartet of Busquets, Rakitic, Phil and Vidal, thats recipe for disaster and leaves all the creative work on phil, Phil isn't capable of creating chances all alone, even Don Andreas couldn't do it last season. it'll mean messi coming back to create and create, leaving the goal scoring duties to that fat Suarez. Don't forget that the aim of the whole thing is supposed to get Messi closer to goal not further far away from goal. we need creative players not digbolugi.

tesppidd:
can't believe what?

Vidal FFS! and i'm shocked you've been supporting the deal even when it appeared as rumours at first.

At this rate in 3 years time we might be signing Fellaini.

This is what our top 9(untouchable) looks like.

I still can't believe this Really. I really can't.

jhoci:
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thanks.

Good morning all. i'm just discovering this thread and i have few questions please.

1) I have bsc geology here in Nigeria but graduated with a 2.2? am i eligible for masters? like will i be picked for mac geology in canada?

2) I'm currently working and the plan is to start processing next year so ill have close to 18 months work experience come next year. is it an added advantage as regards the masters?

please answers would be greatly appreciated.

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inside story on how we swooped for malcom x.

it had better pay off eventually sha.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5990077/Inside-Barcelonas-eleventh-hour-45-5m-swoop-Malcom-Brazilian-enticed-No-7-shirt.html

Malcom X is officially a Barca Player.


Mehn the way the deal was wrapped up in a matter of 2 days is shocking though. Either way fingers crossed.

edimolu:
i dont bliv

Kanan don lash tasha before, I'm so sure, he keeps referring her to as a bitch, he always try to flirt with her and this recent scene in the last episode all but makes it all the more obvious. Tasha gets very jittery once she sees kanan, like she's hiding something.. Infant if i take it a little further, i won't be shocked if Kanan is actually Tariq's dad.

Kanan.

Upnepaa:
Madrid fans right now..

Well well.

ddippset:
Now it's surely Mbappe or Modric for golden ball.

Its definitely Modric. Guyman has been on fire all through the World cup.

HumbleBoy21:
rakitic leaves then there is trouble o

Rakitic is going no where. He can't leave Barca, he is pivotal to how we play, just that hin head dey always touch sometimes.

Jacob banks' unholy war playing underneath when ghost made his speech was lit really. Power sure knows the perfect tracks to go with scenes. I'm still amazed at Dre's fast growth to suddenly look ghost in the eye and tell him to stay in his lane. i get the producers are trying to make the Jimenez through Dre the new Villain but the fast paced growth looked so unreal and exaggerated.

Either way Tariq sure has a huge role to play in the coming war.

RuuDie:
Your tuppence!

Excerpt from Rohr post match comments: "we are disappointed. My young team was missing a little experience to handle the final minutes..."

This is why the "activity" of Mascherano was important and is valued.

Lol. How does the bolded show that it was mascherano's experience that propelled Argentina to win? Where was the experience when he brock lesnar'ed Balogun in the box?.. Who caused the penalty? its not by screaming and gesticulating every now and then. Mascherano is way past his prime and is just in that team because he flatters to deceive Sampaoli with his Apari.

kalan:
Hi Jonsnow92,
The course has not being on offer for more than 5 years now, so i will advise you pick another course or another school if you still insist on Msc Geology.
The Lecturers are easily pouch by Oil firms so they dont stay for long...lol

thank you very much. I was looking at another course that can bolster my chances in the oil sector and it appears very limited right now.. How about Geophysics?, or can you advice on what you think i can go for. i read geology for first degree.

Sampaoli just dey do moon walk for touch line. No impact sub, keep Dybala and Banega for bench, playing Acunia and meza and perez and oloribuku.

Lobatan.

They keep saying Messi has to be closer to goal but these Argentine fools can't even find intricate passes to him or to Aguero. Idiots trying to form tikitaka in the world cup.

O tii dii