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sebod:
suarez a Barca legend? i reject that.......

Lol! Your ignorance is outstanding

Barca's 3rd highest goal scorer of all time.
Played 283 games, scored 198 goals and gave 107 assists.
Helped barca win the historic treble.
Yet, he's not a Barça legend.

I have heard things

barackodam:
You dey mind us?

People gnashing teeth like if we had Davies in our team, he'd ever have benched Alba.

See, forget that talk. We don't groom players. We ruin their lives with bench, and when we eventually sell them, we fans come out and say, "they were never good enough for us", I mean, how can they come good playing from bench?

Was it bench that made Davies that good? Or they stuck their neck out for him?
Trent Arnold?
Pavard?

Come to Barça, it's stories. Good players that only need to play consistently enough, then after we kill their careers, they were never good enough.

Todibo
Wague
Araujo
Aleña

I can keep mentioning.....

Icardi
Bellerin
Christian tello
Adama traore.
Munir Hadadi
Charles Perez
Malcom
Bojan
Rafihna
Thiago
Giovanni dos Santos
Onana
Luis Garcia
Dennis Suarez

Dem plenty

GrammarNazi1:
One guy sha carry Messi matter for head. Na Messi say make them play some players out of position. Na Messi say make board no do the right thing.

Read well. It was an attack on the barca's management.

You should be smart to detect underlying messages in every comments.

tesppidd:
It is not pointless.

It's only beyond your comprehension.

Lemme break It down again, you might understand this time in Jesus name.

Someone said Barca fulfilled Coutinho's dreams by buying him from Liverpool.

But the same Liverpool he left win the champions league last season.

So which would have been better for Coutinho? Or which would Coutinho prefer?

Winning the champions league with Liverpool as a star player or winning the champions league with Bayern as a 75th minute substitute?

So Barca did not do him any favours by buying him from Liverpool as alleged.

Honestly, the only thing beyond my comprehensive is how your brain manages to conjure up useless analysis with absolutely no bearing on reality.

Bottom point: Coutinho won champions league. Sub or not. He played well for the team and might not have won with Liverpool if he was in the team.

In jesus name, I pray this your shallow mentality doesn't damage your life. That's if it hasn't started to.

biomustry:
At least our player won it

Yea. In a club with conducive environment for success, where team work and fairness is upheld not a one-man-worship club where players find it hard to thrive and played out of position.

May our barca become great again.

haymekus:
One word:Thiago


That the kind of experience our midfield needs not those headless chickens

Sadly, he was from barca. The future of barca. Until pep persuaded. And barca didn't fight for him.

BykeLaByke:
See the wingers doing work vs Bayern.


Baarca started against them with 4 midfielders ffs.

No attacking midfielder sef. None. Barca have suffered.

tesppidd:
Lol

Nice point.

Truth is he won UCL at Bayern as a 10 minutes player but could have won it at Liverpool as a 90 minute man key player.

This is pointless. Since when does the number of minutes played affect the honour and prestige of winning a title like the Champions League.
Coutinho is a big player and he won the Champions League.

Oh don't forget, he helped Bayern destroy a super power club like barca.

tesppidd:
Griezman is not good enough to solve that problem.

Not good enough?
After playing most games on the wing?
It would be wrong to judge him.
Shebi, Koeman has bragged about his plan to use Griezmann in his natural position.

It is after I see Griezmann play in his normal position, match in, match out, that's when I'll judge.
And I also hope, if Messi remains with us, that he doesn't neglect Griezmann on the pitch as we've seen a lot.

Oldboss:
Barcelona are reportedly facing paying a
huge sum if they want to seal the transfer
of Everton forward Richarlison this summer.
The Brazil international has shone in his
time in the Premier League and the Daily
Mirror note that Barcelona tried to sign him
by launching a £100million bid for his
services back in January.

Richarlison is now said to be valued at as
much as £143m, according to the Mirror, so
it won’t be cheap for Barca if they decide to
come back in for him this summer.
The Catalan giants could undoubtedly do
with making some changes up front after a
hugely disappointing 2019/20 campaign.
Quique Setien was recently sacked at the
Nou Camp after the club missed out on the
La Liga title, and were thrashed 8-2 by Bayern Munich in the Champions League.
Former Everton boss Ronald Koeman is now
in charge and could raid his old club for the
signing of Richarlison to replace struggling
attackers like Antoine Griezmann and
Ousmane Dembele.
Still, it remains to be seen if Barcelona can
realistically afford to splash out that much
money on one player at the moment.

Which stupid richarlison! God no go gree sef.
143 million pounds? Nonsense!

tesppidd:
Pirlo and Buffon have allegedly called Vidal to tempt him to return to Juve.

Just waiting for Messi to declare let's see Man City, PSG, Juve, Inter, rush to sign him for 200 mil.

It's time for Messi to leave and stop trying to lift their dead club.

'Their dead club'? Their? Not 'our'?

I'm I missing something or misunderstanding you? Please no vex, I'm just curious at your choice of words.

Please are you a barca fan? Yes or no . Please answer, because I think it would clarify something.

tesppidd:
See this one!

What qualifies you as a Barca fan tho?

Because you post on this thread abi because you watch Barca at your home or even view centre?

Say you buy match ticket for Camp Nou abi you register as club fan?

Barca fan indeed!

LOL! Let me ask you something :

If Messi leaves barca for man city and barca meets man city in the final, who will you support?

Imagine also in this same season, Ronaldo has won the scudetto and copa italia and is likely to win the ballon dor for the sixth time except Messi wins the Champions League.

Will you stand with barca?

You don't have to reply. I just want the so called barca fans here to examine their loyalty.

haymekus:
Funny thing that is about to happen to Barcelona is that Messi will be begged you stay, they(bartomeu & valverde3.0) will have no other option than to play his friends which are Suarez and Alba(their families are all on vacation with Messi’s) just to please Messi, make him comfortable and stay


Forget all those nonsense talk valverde3.0 was saying about playing youngsters, shebi immediately he signed for Barcelona he was forced to go talk to messi(more like beg), in order for him to stay, there is no way he wouldn’t be forced to make Messi and his friends happy eventually

Just watch o... I won't be surprised if some of the oldies like Alba, Suarez, Busquets, and Pique we complained of still get huge playing time. Shebi na to please the best player, abi?

Barca will eventually know that to be the best team in world, which we once were, and to progress, sacrificing the counterproductive demands and treatment of the seemingly best player might be necessary

kodded:
some people think that one must be a good cheer leader before becoming a leader, lol

Okay na. So being a captain is about scoring and assisting only. Abi?
Messi fans and barca fans are truly different.

SonOfAfonja:
Just shut up....you know nothing about football....

Stop tryna sound like Messi. He's a genius in football, you're a genius in..... Nothing.

What do you know? I tried looking at your contributions on this topic and I only perceive a dimwitted fellow without any power of reasoning. Tell God to upgrade your brain.

I've been supporting barca since 2005 and I know when, what and where things go wrong. You are just a Messi fan but the worst.... Why? You don't know shit!

tesppidd:
Some of us have given practical examples to show that Messi's team mates have not complemented his efforts on the pitch even to a minimal degree.

In fact they have not come close to doing that compared to other big European teams which have at least 3 stars putting in top level performances concurrently.

How the biggest problem you see here remains Messi motivating the team remains a mystery to me.

The numbers are all over the place to prove that this team's reliance on Messi to deliver them game after game after game, remains criminal,

yet all that you could think about is for Messi to motivate them.

In fact if you do pay any attention to international television punditry at all during live games, you will learn that the following;

1.The first line problem of Barca is a criminal dependence on Messi to deliver on the pitch game after game after game....
2. Lack of proper coaching and team management...

The issue of captaincy and motivation or whatever is far from the biggest problem we have.

I still can't come to terms with the fact that a true Barca fan wants Messi out of the club.
That's the reason why I believe that you guys are Madrid fans in disguise.

Abi is it Messi's fat salary? Even if he leaves you still wouldn't get a cut; so what's the point?

I agree with you on the other problems you talked about.
No one is disputing those. In fact, there might be other problems which do not know of.
However, lack of leadership is one of the problems we have. Maybe, if we solve the other problems, the deficiency in the leadership department would be covered up.

As for those, wanting Messi to leave, they're simply people who think he shouldn't waste his last years on a mediocre team. He deserves better. And they're right.
Others feel Messi is also a problem. Imagine Messi doesn't like you in the team. You own is finished. Imagine Messi and Suarez, ignoring Griezmann in a match countless time. Messi has a say on who should be bought. Rakitic once voiced his frustration on messi's influence in Barca. Other players might not be happy, but, they won't talk

Messi is over worshipped. Yes! Barcelona don't even exalt players to a considerable extent. Imagine if Neymar was pushed to nearly the same light as Messi, do you think he would have left? Barca only see Messi.
Imagine Messi telling a top official that he knows nothing about football. Next week, that same official apologized and said "Messi is right, I know nothing about football". WTF?!
In life the moment you make a person seem indispensable and they know, you'll suffer. That's why Messi can threaten us with exit threats, and the whole board starts shaking.

Yes Messi is the GOAT �, but if we're going to move forward, we have to start placing the interest of the club and fans above an individual, whoever it maybe.

Real Madrid let Ronaldo go, Perez bragged about it. People thought they'll die, but guess what, they won la liga ahead of us.

FirstbornWds:
I think I get Tespidd point now. And he's right.

We need some other person to motivate to win and it really doesn't have to be Messi. But then, if he does, it is another feather to his cap.

As for the Ronaldo part, there were players stepping up for him in the international stage. Fks, he didn't even play in the final.

But what did he do? He was pushing them from the bench. If it was Messi, let me tell what he will do:

Sit and be looking.

Let me remind you, before the final, Ronaldo tried. But he made sure his efforts and that of his team were not in vain. That's a Leader!

If you score, assist, play make etc, well done, but, as long as you're the captain, it's you duty to egg your team on.

jpmoriarti:
After 4 consecutive humiliations in Europe, i wont hesitate to say Messi could be part of Barcelona's problem today. We have to move forward from him and build a really competitive team once again. We might even need to strip the captain armband from him, should he choose to stay. His four year captaincy has been a total disaster. It is no coincident that we last tasted true leadership the year before he assumed that throne.

This guy is smart!!!
As in! True barca fans know loyalty to, and progress of the club supersedes all.
Messi tho phenomenal, has a role in Barca's problems.
If it means reducing his preferences and demands to move forward, so be it. I support giving someone else the captain's armband

pu7pl3:
Smh...it's you that still doesn't get it...

Leave him. I thought this tesppidd was very sharp guy. Smart enough to see the point. I guess I was mistaken.

SonOfAfonja:
They’ll never get it... They hate Messi so much, they feel he has to be leading in clean sheets, aerial duels and tackles....

Who hates Messi? If don't know what to say just Park go one corner.
I'm a barca fan not a Messi arse licker like you. When you see the truth, say it. Messi has work to do when it comes to leadership. He is terrible!

tesppidd:


This is preposterous and pathetic to say the least.

Is football not a team game anymore?

One player carries the goal scoring burden.

Same player carries the play making burden.

Same player should motivate the team before they can perform under pressure.

In practical terms; I love being practical.

At Madrid while Ramos was motivating the team, Ronaldo and Bale were getting crucial semi final and final goals.

At Liverpool while Henderson is motivating the team, Salah and Mane are scoring crucial finals goals.

At Bayern while Neuer or someone is motivating the team, Lewy and Muller are getting crucial finals and semi finals goals.



Then at our Barca, our very own Barca, lol.

One man dominates the goal scoring game, same man dominates the play making game,

And the same man should motivate,

if he doesn't motivate then he is a draw back and should leave the club!!!


Frankly I feel like biitch-slapping every single person with that opinion right now.

Fuucck..

.
Ronaldo did all of these for Portugal and did it well. The result?
Euro and Nations league.
Even Ramos had to admit Ronaldo's leadership in real Madrid. Yes he did.

Dude, I love Messi but I'll always say when and where he bleeps up.
And no is saying he should leave because he's a failure or bad captain. Fans wanting him to leave simply feel pity at how he has toiled while the board and everyone else bleeps up and render his efforts useless. He deserves a better place.

But ask yourself, if barca had a leader that rallies his teammate when they feel down, don't you think we would have won Champions League last season. That cup was meant for US! Everyone saw us winning. But we blew it.
If we had an energetic source of motivation, it most likely wouldn't have happened.

Peteru1st:
at this century, you should know all these things are scam

Don't be quick to write off such as scam.
People like you won't use your head and research if the company is legit first.

All this uneducated secondary school riff raffs sef

tesppidd:
Ronaldo and Ramos, were they not staying and looking when we bashed them 5-0.?

Ronaldo and Ramos, were they not staying and looking when Athletico bashed them 4-0?

Ronaldo and Ramos, were they not staying and looking when Lyon dumped them out some years ago?

Don't you get? I'm not saying a motivating captain is a bulletproof for the team against defeat all the time. But to a large extent ,it plays a pivotal role.

I don't know what's hard to understand.

tesppidd:
And you think that means 11 young players every game?

Lol. No na. They'll get more playing time.

No be has injury start na hin we begin dey remember say we get young players for barca B.

SonOfAfonja:
Bro, I think he’s right....that 5% is seemingly inconsequential to a tired leg.

More so, can Ramos yell at a Ronaldo or Messi?

What are you saying na. We're talking having leaders(note the s). Ramos might not yell at Ronaldo, but yelling isn't the only way of motivating.

SonOfAfonja:
This is the real truth...

not completely.

brandon180:
Depay to come and do what?

Rumours have it they those are the names he submitted o.

tesppidd:
Let's not look for scape goats where there are none.

Leadership on the pitch is a problem Yes, but it's only max 5 percent of the problem.

70 percent of the problem is having too many tired legs in the team.

.

What are you saying. Imagine Ronaldo and Ramos were in the ones in the match when Liverpool scored 4 against us.
You think he will stay and be looking.
The moment wildjnadum scored 2 ,they start gingering the team.

The team morale was low, Valverde was looking like zombie, Messi who all the players look up to was just dull. Nothing from him.
Haven't you noticed when messi steps up,the others step up to.
Same thing against Bayern. At half time,he was just dull. Setien to was foolish. Compare him to Hans flick who was just up and down. Even gattuso when he was losing to us was still active and that was why they played better than us in the 2nd half of that match.

it seems you've forgotten the days of puyol,guardiola,and Enrique. The ginger was flowing both on bench and on the pitch.

Bro,leadership plays a HUGE role in team results.

barackodam:
Koeman: "Frenkie De Jong has not been playing at his best position here. With me, he played closer to the defense. We will do the best for him."

Koeman: "Suárez? I won't talk about individual players here, out of respect."


M'fucker, you just talked about Frenkie, isn't that individual player?

Or frenkie now stands for the whole of Barça

Read between the lines. It's a bad sign for Suarez.
frenkie is Dutch and will be favored big time.

if he manages to get his desired players (depay, van de beek,and that Everton defender),mehn ,those guys will bench anyone dragging their positions.

barackodam:
Valverde and Setien both said it.

Tell us something new

This is different. You think he'll field the oldies frequently again?

BTW, stop calling valverde and setien . They're local dumbasses that were just privileged to manage barca.

Adiwana:
I dont judge players based on stats.They don't tell the full story. Messi had a very average season by his standards but still put up impressive numbers

Pique at this point should be doing what Ramos is doing for Madrid at this moment which is to lead the team from the back while Messi leads from the front. It's not all about numbers as any decent CB can win duels. It's basic defending101.

Yes our situation is way worse than Madrid but that lack of leadership from the backline is why players like Semedo and Alba can make Sunday school football mistakes in crucial games. Not saying it's his fault,but he's currently not providing that and he can go

Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull as a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.

biomustry:
Barca board will rush immediately to appoint a coach after sacking mumus, they will not choose carefully

It's just damage control.