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FirstbornWds:
To pose competition for DeJong and Pjanic.

Koeman is gradually revolutionizing Barcelona to become Dutch playing ground..

A 30-year old wijnaldum?

Is this a plan for the future?
Whatever happened to our plan of relying on young, vibrant, talented players?

Can someone please explain to me what Wijnaldum is coming to Barça to do!
Are this people mad in?

Can someone please explain to me what Wijnaldum is coming to Barça to do!
Are this people mad in?

Barca will denounce/sue Messi and any club that signs him, if FIFA grants the Argentine provisional transfer.

Twitter

Isn't bartomeu not taking this too far?

Jorge Messi :"it will be difficult for Leo to stay at Barça ".
Minds made up, I guess.
Rakitic's ceremony. An honourable way of leaving.
Will Messi get the same?

Izanghi:
That may not be totally true because the guy don dey prepare for life after Catalonia since, remembered when there was a rumor that he was learning English 4 years ago or so and also according to BBC, all his children dey got british school for Catalonia, so that means if he comes to England, the children will adapt seamlessly because nah the school dem dey go.

I remember this too. But we thought he had perished the idea of going to England. We thought he'll stay with us to the end.

Isiterere:
RAKITIC IS OUT, back to SEVILLA

He has tried. He won europa cup with Sevilla. Came to camp nou and we gave him a treble(I mean, he helped us too to get it). He won la Liga several times with us. Got to world Cup final.

Maybe not a Barça legend, but a football legend to-be. I repeat: legend to-be

afroduke:
true.. koeman is just setien with a white hair. Since 2015, valverde has easily been our best coach and i feel we should bring him back

Bring who back?

Biko, perish that nonsensical idea, if you don't want, amadioha + sango+Thor to fire your anus simultaneously .

Valverde? The things I see on this thread shocks me every passing day.
Valverde? Is this how low we've sunk.

Hmmm

Vigilantes? Reminds me of how they beat up one man in my area. Actually, they've been targeting the man and use their status as 'Vigilantes' to met out 'justice'.
Honestly, while Vigilantes are crucial in face of the Nigerian police incompetence, they should be regulated.
Are they even licensed?

Reports are flying that man city are willing to slash 500 million(across 5 years) to get Messi.
The announcement is said to be coming real soon.
His 1st 3 season will be with man city while the final 2 with New York city FC.

A joint-club work, I guess.

mostob:
The funny thing is that a simple Dialogue might have solved all these brouhaha.
First it was juventus, then Roma, Liverpool and finally Bayern. No sane human being won't be frustrated about these defeats. One thing which I think made Messi to want out is the unambitious behavior of the club's board.
You swapped Arthur with Pjanic and appointed Koeman of all people. No reasonable transfer negotiations... come on,you people should think now.
The only solution now is for the board to make new signings then get better coach... Those are the only things that can make messi stays.

New signings?
Apart from the fact that we ain't got cash and we're trying to suck as much as we can from any Messi deal, who will want to come to Barça.
Lautaro is no longer convinced barca is a good club for him.
Van de beek had signed for man utd, while we we're dragging Messi case.
We don't even have a plan for next season.

But I'll like to trust Koeman.

Hmm

jpmoriarti:
�️ — Arturo Vidal: "Barça must change the way they think. The (Barça) DNA is lagging behind. Football is now more about strength and speed."

Couldn't agree more! We became obsessed with an outdated pattern and average teams were running over us.

Barça style is about playing attractive football. We left Tiki taka. And we've been styleless ever since. Just play!
Honestly, I'll love to see, Tiki taka again, I mean the quick and intricate passing style. Not just possession based football with no direction, purpose or intensity. It's still a valuable philosophy. But it should be revolutionized (with shooting outside the box and inclusion of counter attacks when on the defensive foot).
Funny thing is, the style is the best style, as it allows team play, quick and speedy movement and dominance.

jpmoriarti:
It's not fight

You're pained that Messi is leaving, right?

BykeLaByke:
If he stays,he could literally pull a Bale alongside Suarez,and he leaves the club for free next year cause that's when his contract ends....even you have to agree selling him now makes the most sense for both parties.

Leave the fool. He doesn't even understand how things are going. Just shouting Messi should be frustrated, he should be taught a lesson. Clown

jpmoriarti:
If he goes to court, he has absolutely no legs to stand on. His case is weak. His contract has not expired. He signed those contracts. If the club refuses to sell him, he cannot leave. The club is under no obligation to negotiate his exit.

I just verified you're dumber than I thought. It's obvious you're ranting with no understanding of how contracts work.

jpmoriarti:
I dislike subscribing to the view of the crowd. Whenever everyone seems to agree on a particular controversial subject, I step aside to see this issue from a different perspective.

They keep claiming Barcelona owes Messi everything as though Messi's services came free of charge. They should frustrate the guy biko

So he should be frustrated because he wants to quit.

Your perspective is a stupid one. I'm not sorry to say that.
Why should barca frustrate him? Give one reason (that's if your shallow mind can furnish one).

Let's forget Messi's influence or anything. Why should barca let him go? Because you have been typing rubbish and off-point. Forming ' I'm different from the crowd'.

jpmoriarti:
Most of these players you mentioned mentioned have all underperformed. Some have been told to find a new club but Messi, despite the adulation and adoration he receives from the fans and the club, must raise hell before he leaves. Definitely not captain like.

Wait! Are you following the Messi saga at all?
Who is raising hell. Messi or Barça?
Messi wants to leave on peaceful terms and is avoiding a court case, Barca on the other hand are denying him any meeting, except for contract renewal!

Can you see how stupid bartomeu is. A player wants to leave and you feel, your best action is to frustrate him, right? You and Bart share the same reasoning. And it's toxicity is affecting this thread.

modextus:
Exactly! People keep saying he's done so much for the club like he was playing free of charge! Man was the highest paid footballer in the world! He should've simply rejected the pay.

He should have rejected the pay, aye? Tell me, with the incompetence of the board that is been revealed, if Messi left barca, the same way Neymar left, how many la Liga, or copa del rey, do you think we would have won?

He's done so much for the club because by saving our asses several times and covering up the faults of players, manager and board.

How many players can do that. Why won't they pay him.

khingTony:
You're the one of the people in this thread that calls a spade a spade, and I appreciate that

Neymar left because he was being "shadowed" by messi, Other players are not appreciated in Barcelona because messi is there, He always takes all, I mean all the glory.

The same way Ronaldo was the main guy in Madrid, but how does it stop the players from performing or giving their best

jpmoriarti:
The club hasn't done enough to help him? Like seriously? Tell me another club who has spent more money on players acquisition than Barcelona in the last five years. Big names have all arrived but since all attention is on Messi, they cannot adapt and Messi being captain of the club has done absolutely nothing to assist the players to adapt. Coutinho, Dembele and Grezimann are all big players before they joined but all have become ordinary player after joining. But we must blame the board for everything because everyone blames the board.

Messi should assist them to adapt?

Messi should assist Dembele not to have injuries?

Messi should assist the coach to stop playing the players, like Griezmann, out of position?

Messi should assist Coutinho not to go missing in matches?

Wow! (this isn't a remark over your wisdom, just the opposite)

FirstbornWds:
Will somebody reply this man before I do?

Oga, please do us the honours.

I tried replying 2 idiots. My fingers dey pain me. Na rubbish I just dey see.

modextus:
Messi is a GOAT on the pitch but a coward outside it. I don't care what anyone else say but that's the truth. Board members and Messi share almost the same blame for what's happening at the club. I expected more from Messi too. After the humiliation against Bayern.. a club captain and a player of his calibre should have said something but no.. Messi decided it was time to leave for FREE!

I've been reading bullshit on this thread today!
Messi is a coward?

Messi faced the board countless times for improvement.
Messi prophesied Champions League doom if barca doesn't improve
Messi ALONE carried a mediocre team for 5 years.
Messi put up with the bullshit of the management for year. He stayed loyal. He fought.
Messi kept on voicing impending doom. Now, it's here. We're at our all time low.

He's a coward? You're good-for-nothing ingrate.

You expect MORE from him? You expect MORE from him?
Why don't you tell him to cut off is legs na? . What should he have said after the Bayern's defeat?

The only thing I have faulted Messi for is his motivational skills in matches, but he covers that up with brilliancies. So what do you want?

He should have said something? Listen to yourself. Work for a company for years despite having better offers . You gave your best. Carried the company to great Heights yet the management keep being stupid and the company wrecks. Oh you'll wait and say something, abi?

Bullshit spewer

Olamyyde:
Mehn we have been seeing this for quite a while. After the last brazil vs Argentina copa america match. Messi started saying refs are supporting brazil. No captain should be saying that.



Yes the board have a lot of blame but messi isn't showing why he's a role model to football fans everywhere.

If you're in his shoes you won't be saying this bullshit.

Okay, let's look at copa America. VAR was introduced in the quarter finals. When Messi ad Argentina met Brazil, that match marred by wrong calls. Messi begged referee to check VAR several times. That could have changed everything.

In the 3rd place match, He got a red card when he wasn't guilty at all. Did referee check? No. He just dished out cards. Honestly, Brazil were favored. Messi was right. If you watched the competition, you'll understand.

As for his troubles with Barça, what do you expect. He has laboured, and the board keeps doing crap. He wants to leave and you're bringing some role model bullshit talk.
Guy sit down.

Hmmm
I'm not surprised that La Liga is saying this. The revenue Messi brings to the league is incredible.

It's really funny tho. La Liga saying that the only way our is the triggering the 700 million buyout clause, while barca are desperate to accept 250 million. Clowns everywhere!

But, honestly, I think they should let him go.

This isn't the Messi exit we foresaw.
I believe this will be dragged to court and I believe Messi will win the case.

haymekus:
Stupid bartomeu wants to sell Messi for $700m or force him to sign an extension


How the hell you force someone to stay in your club even when his contract has expired, bartomeu is just too foolish, why not just negotiate Messi’s exit and collect a good amount of money for it.

Lol!
The funny thing is the 700 million buyout clause might have expired on.

FirstbornWds:
This is really not a good thing to say. You should take time to read about the clauses and other things guiding his agreement. Barcelona is actually a FOOLISH party here.


Besides, what good is there playing for a failed club that doesn't want to grow?


I support his decision %100000000000

You sabi!

Can you imagine not knowing about the contract clauses all this while.
How clueless can a board be?

jpmoriarti:
Messi is no different from Arthur. He caused a mutiny against his club while he's still under contract. What a way to finish a legendary career! I hope he never wins as much as a spoon for Argentina. He has lost my respect.

Which stupid mutiny?!

He wants to leave. But the club is insisting on going dirty when he has rights of his own. Are we gonna chain him down? The guy even wants a peaceful negotiation but barca are being adamant.
They didn't arrange their contracts in order. Now it's causing problems.

As for Arthur, I don't blame him. Barca frustrated him. He wasn't given playing time with all the talent he has. At least we could have used him well. Maybe we would have achieved something before he left.

Sommyroy10:
If in the contract, it does actually says June 10 (not season end) , then the pandemic excuse won't hold in court.

Well if Messi insist on moving, after trying to convince him, we should part way as quickly as possible. No time. I hate stress
Happy Sunday.

In contract law, there are things call explicit(stated point blank) and implicit representation (the most relevant).
Implicit representation is usually upheld because it carries the intention of both parties. It is the spirit of the contract, and that is what counts.

Barca and Messi agreed on June 10, with the intention of that date being recognized as the deadline after the end of 2019/2020 season.

The pandemic made that impossible, as the season was delayed.

The point is June 10 is just a 'Label' that represents the deadline for Messi, after the end of 2019/2020 season.
Hence, Messi's claim is still valid.

Sommyroy10:
Doesn't it also mean, if Barca are to indeed do business, they can ask for $1billion

It actually weakens barca resolve and makes them desperate especially with Messi pushing for a free transfer due to the June 10 clause.

Barca claimed Messi should have announced on that date and since he didn't, he can't leave except the club that wants to buy him triggers the buyout clause(700 million). Messi is saying the implicit agreement(i.e the actual contractual intention ) is that the announcement is to be made at the end of the 2019/2020 season. The pandemic delayed season ending. So June 10 doesn't apply.

Now if that clause(buyout clause) doesn't exist, Barca have lost the leverage they have to hold on to Messi.

Currently, report have it that they are willing to accept £250 million. I sense they know their claim is weak. If Messi takes it to court, he'll win. His lawyers just have to be smart.

ghettokid1:
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Kid, shey you see what Barto has turned us to.

Can you imagine reports are flying that the 700 million buyout clause doesn't even exist anymore.

Was this the Messi exit we planned. Everything don tire me.

BykeLaByke:
Looooool...if this turns out to be true,any leverage Barca had has turned to dust.




On this day of the Lord,I pray this stoopid club does not get a penny from the transfer of Lionel Andres Messi Cucitini to Manchester City.

When I saw the news, I was just weak.

And they're forming hard guys. Honestly, I understand barca don't wanna lose(whether Messi or cash) , but, I doubt if we're gonna win if it goes to court.

I can't believe this is even happening . This wasn't the Messi exit we foresaw. This wasn't how we thought it would happen. Not through quarreling and back-and-forth claims.

If this news is true, then barca is cemented as the dumbest club of the decade. It hurts but it's true. Bartomeu and Co have ruined us. I'm just sad