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Covert1:
Sounds a lot like conspiracy theories. France appear to lose with Deby's death but it raises a whole lot of questions why didn't they intervene and allow Deby to go to the front if those reports are true, why would they when they could easily halt the advancing rebel column with precision strikes. It might be a game of cards to complicate matters for Abuja in the war or Abuja knows something and would prefer a new leadership in N'djamena. Niger knows its future lies with Nigeria not France a declining power. This whole thing could get some perspective if Nigeria decide it's time to end French hegemony of Francophone West Africa and it can but with a war on its hands it might not be prudent to do so now rather maybe better to employ clandestine means and ECOWAS mechanisms like the Eco currency to achieve those ends. It can also guarantee presidential security for pliant states. That is one way to weed these states off France.

Sizzorkay:
And i never said chad was part of ecowas.. point was why can't our regional block help chad if they request it. regardless of what france says.

iboboyswag:
True and I believe it is time Africa as a bloc starts having this conversation.

Mind you, it is this subjugation that have kept much of francophone Africa in the bottom belt of all developmental indexes inspite of their massive wealth.

iboboyswag:
True and I believe it is time Africa as a bloc starts having this conversation.

Mind you, it is this subjugation that have kept much of francophone Africa in the bottom belt of all developmental indexes inspite of their massive wealth.

Sizzorkay:
Ecowas doesn't need the blessing of the UNSC to deploy troops within West Africa for peacekeeping missions. They can seek it if they need support or if the UN is deploying troops.
Now I'm open to be corrected by people who know better. I'm simply stating my opinion
Countries have deployed troops into neighboring countriesmany times without some darn UNSC authorization
. And once again, read comments properly before jumping into it. did i ever mentioned anything about the AU deploying troops? why even bother with this guy.
AU is to support the actions ecowas would take. and if Ecowas states including chad agrees, france can't stop it. its all diplomacy. you think france would go to war with West Africa over chad? it's all about optics, and it won't be good for france. Especially if the idea of ecowas being there is to help stabilize chad. Why would france say no to that.
Did Saudi Arabia got authorization from UNSC before going into Yemen? not sure. and can't find info that they did

Sizzorkay:
Leave the man. Chad and france aren't at war. Chad is a sovereign nation. Its their right. they don't even have to use force or be rude. play the pity game of the small guy being bullied and colonized in it's own country and you will see world opinion going against france. you can't force your presence on another country you aren't at war with and no agreement in place for what duration you will be there, if there was an agreement a d money was paid to Chad, then France have the right to not leave etc.
if anything france will bribe them with more assistance in other to stay.

Sizzorkay:
where in the world did i mentioned Chad using military force to send france packing? and who gives a fvk about them having nuke. In 2021 you think they will use nuke against chad?
stop jumping backwards digging up old comments. We've moved on from it. see ya

IGpro1:
so in your mind, Nigeria that rejected Africom will now accept Common AU troops. seems you don't know your country.

IGpro1:
Guinea bissau did it and was successful, though the French had to burn down almost everything they belt.

Chad can pull through. But now isn't the right time, because bokoharam and Libyan militias will take advantage, and France I know, will support whoever will make Chad bleed.

Sizzorkay:
You are now saying Chad is a colony and not independent? okay.
comparing crimea/Russia or US /Alaska. these are different scenarios. Alaska was purchased, the crimea and the soviets have their own history.
I didnt know chad share border with france, or darn, how did African countries managed to gain their independence fro. the all powerful West.
don't fall for mirage and take control of your own destiny. until we do that, we will keep kneeling in front of these fools. There are countries and leaders that went against the west and survived it. its nothing new. The consequences might be dire, but atleast they aren't beholden to any foreign power.
you belittle the strength of the continent because you have no faith in it, france is movable, so chad is poor, and that's an excuse for subjugation? its their land, their independent territory. Not France's. sentiments or not.
I don't know much about military stuff, but politics and optics, i know quite a bit. Compare Assad to Ghadafi, one was calm and collected, the other was insane, to the point of threatening to level tripoli than to see it fall. That was a critical error he made in his messaging and the West used that against him. oh he's about to kill everyone in tripoli, he has to be stopped. Gotta control your messaging and temperament

Sizzorkay:
There you go. it's all about the messaging. lobby chinese vocal support, Russia etc, there's literally nothing france can do to overide the entire wishes of a continent and support from some other big countries. messaging matters, and showing the capacity to get the job done is also critical such scenario. France isn't some all powerful entity. There are limits, and the world still have rules that Govern it

kabe1:
The AU that couldn't deploy in Mali to fight terrorists.

There is no amount of assertiveness that can replace capacity and structural integrity.

Sizzorkay:
if there's a need to intervene in chad, we can go thru the AU, its all about audacity and actually having a spine, clarify your objectives and reasons for such deployment. if the AU and Ecowas approves deployment into chad, with the support of the chadian Govt, , France can not stop it. this is the problem black people keep having, we put ourselves down and put these westerners on a pedestal. call their bluff, as long as you aren't committing atrocities, there's nothing france or the west can do to stop such deployment. All they need is an excuse, take that away from them by doing things right, and their opinion become irrelevant.
you wouldn't know until you try.
Our problem in Sub-Saharan Africa is our lack of assertiveness. what a shame.

JOSCOFELIX:
the nigeria army have been deployed to chad border. do you think what i am thinking. i am suspecting france for the death of debby

Sizzorkay:
if he becomes the President and want to send france packing, he can. And there's no darn thing france can do to him. only way they can retaliate is via economic sabotage. The world has changed, sure france have deep reach over there, but it's not absolute. sbeet. France's reputation can be easily ruined if they make unpopular move, and all it takes is a few strokes on a keyboard. The world is more sensitive than before.
Only reason he might be unable to if he wanted would be if they have some sort of agreements in place, And I'm talking about french military presence in the region. Chad isn't powerless, only risk i see for them in my scenario is economic

sczeska:
Your brain is severely impaired, you don’t even know and you’re just making bold claims about the absence of killer herdsmen activities in abia state.
Go on Twitter and search “isikwuato Herdsmen”
Also refer to a map and see how close isikwuato and ohafia are to ebonyi state.

sczeska:
You asked what ESN is doing in abia? Is it that you don’t know that isikuwuato and ohafia communities are under steady attacks by Fulani killers masquerading as herdsmen?

Valkrie:
If you don't know...then know this now..every damn fulani man you see in the bush is part of their militia..They all work hand in hand and together...!! When I see comment like yours I just shake my head...just wait until you enter their hand or meet them in the bush alone then you would understand.. but maybe by then you may not be alive to share your story here again.....!!!

mekussa:
No Fulani militia in Anambra?

Bro, take a ride through Nando-Umueri-Aguleri-Igariam towns down to Ayamelum LGA to-Anam-Adani towns. IF you successfully get to any town in Ayamelum LGA without running into them, ask the villagers to direct you to their farms then you go there alone. IF you get back unscathed, you can now come and talk like you know what's happening in Anambra state.

PS.... You can take this ride at any time of the day.

ariesbull:
When I read his here...I realise the reason blacks are at the bottom of totem pole....something is fundamentally wrong with black man

A group of people have been marginalised, maligned and called 7%

They be made it clear they want out or a level of autonomy


Can't we copy from whites the way they handled the British in EU

can't we call for dialogue ...why must the black man do gragra

Ask the south east what they want them meet them at middle ground


Igbo are pretty stubborn from 1967 till date they habe been angry ...I mean generational Ange why cant the country engage them in conversation.


This is what right thinking People do...not these gagragra


What is wrong with the negro man ?

ugo4u:
"Fictitious militia herdsmen"?
What's the primary reason Amotekun was hurriedly put together? this are the sentiments your likes in power project while the people on ground know and feel the real issues disturbing them and easily believe or follow secessionists that promise to offer protection.
I know your type and giving you attention is not worth it, you are just an irritant that thinks loyalty to a gov't in power is patriotism, I pity you. For those of us that really wants the progress of this country we will keep on saying it as it is irrespective of who is in power or whose ox it gores.

Hoverbird:
You're a complete idiot that is out of touch with reality.
Let me give you small sense, We all know the Bight of Biafra existed for ages before Gowon changed it to the Bight of Benin. The name Biafra as a country was suggested by Frank Opigo a bonafide Ijaw son. You mischievously want to down play the role many Niger Deltans played in Biafra because other Niger Delta sons fought on the federal side and it suits your biased narrative. Some Igbos even sided and fought with the federal gov't if that is where your drifting to. For every Isaac Boro there is an Effiong, Opigo, Willy Murray Bruce etal.
Kaduna Nzeogwu was from the then Mid west present day Niger Delta (full stop) you're been clever by half saying his not a Nicer Delta son because he is not from an oil producing community, if I may ask how many Niger Delta communities have oil exploration in their domain? Cross River have no oil, does that make them not a part of Niger Delta? To show how foolish you are you don't even no the meaning of Niger Delta. I'll leave Google to cure your ignorance.
That a Niger Delta son piloted a naval warship what is the big deal there if some choose to fight for the federal side while others from same region fought in the Biafran side infact most of the toughest Biafran commanders were from Niger Delta. Wily Murray Bruce and August Okpe flew bombing runs and are proud Ijaw sons do your research dunderhead.
Nobody prays for war, but Nigeria today is not as United as before even the middle beltans that made up majority of the foot soldiers on the federal side during the civil war are now removing themselves from the core north, even within the army there are loyalties to ethnicities. Even if one comes the entire nation will be the theatre of the war and not one particular region this time, so rest.

Sizzorkay:
My response was his assertion that fulanis were foreigners. I wasn't talking about the armed ones

upko:
If you want to fight ESN, fight their influence in the south east region, use that same military you want to use in fighting, blockading and bombing the entire region to flush out Kidnappers and curb the activities of herdsmen in the region.
Stop letting the people see ESN as their only hope against Fulani herdsmen and kidnappers.



Is this hard?

ugo4u:
It's a waste of time engaging arm chair analysts.
For someone to even think that a strategy used in the Civil war which was more of a conventional warfare will work now such a person shouldn't be taken seriously, when it's clear that this IPOB guys will resort of guerilla tactics. Let's assume the "Choking" will work why hasn't same be applied to bandits in operating within Kaduna/Niger axis atleast that stretch of forest is within the boundaries of Nigeria. Apply same method in the east and see the entire nations apparathik collapse, most especially now that their are grumblings and mistrust in all regions of the country. This will further boost Nnamdi Kanu propaganda and swell his rank, all he needs to do is to make it seem as if the FG is out to annihilate the people of the region and even academics, and the upper class will but into the propaganda and the least thing we can afford as a nation is anything that will seem to further crack the already loosened thread that holds the country together.
I still believe we can de-escalate this Biafran agitations and make Nnamdi Kanu irrelevant by first of all doing the basics to unify the country, and restructuring amongst other measures will assuage the already heightened tension all over the country. The carrot and stick approach may work but outright force will worsen the situation and make those guys hardened & fanatical, how do you now intend to overcome an enemy that has been brainwashed by a certain ideology and they see death as an option rather than capitulating. we will all be in the diaspora analysing choking, & breathing, strategy while those so called bunch of drug addicts, are present in over 100 countries of the world donating money to fund their movement. Nobody is asking why our security agencies can't seem to jam IPOBs pirate station which is the single most effective channel that have indoctrinated alot of the populace including the elderly, if the security agencies had done that in its infancy Kanu wouldn't have had that platform & reach rather they were busy chasing inanities rather than the Source. This issue of IPOB is paining me seriously because these guys are wining fanatical converts everyday, travel to the east and parts of the South South(Especially Delta/Rivers) you'll be shocked at massive following Kanu have, many people are becoming sympathetic to his cause this are people that ordinarily would not take him serious before.
He uses the realities and issues on ground to manipulate the people and the govt isn't countering it with superior ideology. Now under the guise of Herdsmen crises/Kidnapping(which are real issues) he has floated the ESN which the state/Federal are against, yet they can't come up with something to secure the people from the rampaging Bororo Herdsmen. The people that committed massacre in Uwani in Enugu are still at large, same for the militia herders that commited atrocities in Ebonyi last week even one person hasn't been brought to book. Even if the Devil appears today promising to address issues the people are facing he will surely win converts, are you not surprised that the Igboho's, Gani Adams, Kanus etc are getting popular overnight? We can all keep on postulating, theorising, hypothesising, interpolate & extrapolate while those on ground keep on winning the masses.

Whyem15:
I doubt the current administration has the balls to do this.
Another advantage that ISWAP/JAS has that IPOB/ESN lacks is support from a wide range of experienced allies(Terrorists organizations from all over the world have assisted ISWAP and JAS with supplies, tactics, technology and advising in several roles nevertheless, ESN should never be underestimated, they have easy access to the nation's economic backbone(oil rigs and pipelines; whether they have good relationship with the ND is still debatable but we have seen ex militants like Asari Dokubo associating with them. Use of force should be the last resort. Even the military should be advising the government to avoid force for now, there is nothing beneficial to be achieved from it.

Schooling and other economic activities has since stopped in the part of Southern Cameroon where the ambazonias are waging an insurgency, I do not see how the case will be different in the south east. Buhari will leave by 2023 but the damages will take several years to heal.

Even the so called Biafra was a coinage from an Ijaw chief. I hope you know the military are having confrontations in AkwaIbom and sooner or later Rivers state would join the fray, many of you especially those from outside the region don't know whats going on. Rivers and Abia have some of the most extremists elements of IPOB if you don't know. I won't even want to drag the matter of a Biafra republic with clowns like you because you people easily bring up this argument when serious issues are being discussed but if you think the Niger Delta region comprising of hundreds of ethnic groups would want to be a part of Nigeria and not be on their own assuming they don't even want biafra then the joke is on you.
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You think a destabilised South east region wont harm the economy of the country? most especially when Imo state has a proven gas reserve of over 6 trillion cubic ft(A resources of the future) energy coys are tussling to build refineries & win mouthwatering gas deals this govt wants to lay pipes down to Morocco under the guise of AKK project. Those giants gas pipelines to the north you think they don't pass through the region & are buried in the air ? not to talk of the oil exploration in parts of Abia & Imo and the proven reserves in the Anambra trough.

Everyone knew that IPOB guys picking up arms today is as a result of the high handedness of the military, by the time they win 100% sympathy of the populace it will be interesting to see how the army will overcome a group that will easily recruit 50k at a go to launch guerilla warfare against an already overstretched and Ill equipped military, that even have IPOB sympathisers within their Officer cadre.

Valkrie:
Then you've got no idea about the resolve of the people...!!

Whyem15:
Not when they have the support of their people.... Take away the support first then you will find it very easy to solve. Another insurgency will really bleed the military, especially the army.

Whyem15:
It will be very unwise for the government to fight back right now.... That is exactly IPOB's plan so that they can get the sympathy of the people and get more recruits. The best thing to do is to avoid them. The militants will soon start making mistakes and the local population that are sympathetic to them currently will soon start getting tired of them.