₦airaland Forum

ugo4u:
So how are you sure this particular appointment wasn't based on religion and ethnicity especially when the next most senior officer was from Bayelsa and we all saw how they played politics by illegally extending former IGP Adamu's tenure.
Everybody saw how they dribbled the then DSS director from Bayelsa till power fell on Osinbajo and he did the needful only for the man to be retired for a more "competent" Director from a section of the country.
We should keep on giving excuses for nepotistic posturing of the people at the helm of affairs till the nation tumble to the point of no return, then maybe we will all learn to balance power in a multi ethnic and multi religious society as ours.

Maduawuchukwu:
Do not take people boasting about IPOB's capabilities against the NA seriously. They too know the truth. An army that has been able to restrict the second most powerful Islamist group to some local government in Maiduguri is not an army to be taken lightly. Less powerful Islamist groups are wrecking uncontrollable carnage in Mali and other Sahel countries o.

Sizzorkay:
You said external, fulanis are also nigerians. now i don't support the idea of destroying farms or killing property owners, but its odd to call nigerians external within their own territory. unless those fulanis are foreigners.
Nigerians have the right to live anywhere they wish to,within that country. Respecting the rule of law is what's lacking

Hoverbird:
To the hammer everything is a nail. Nigerians are very poor at learning from history, the army will only worsen things they proscribed and killed them when they were unarmed it didn't stop anything and you think a military intervention is the solution? Opening fronts all over the country when you have a full blown insurgency you can't seem to contain seem to be a genius approach. Let's see how far they will go with confrontations especially when they start attacking pipelines and the economic hub of the country.

Valkrie:
Same way boko buy market since the past 12 years bah...? make una dey there..una no know wetin dey happen...ISIS dey Nigeria..wey army go concentrate on fighting external.forces nah people wey dey defend their tuff against external incursion dem dey wan fight...Nigeria never learn until it become hard and bad then we would be hearing let us negotiate with them for peace to reign...!! We don see part 1,2 and 3 for the Nigerian army film and this confrontation with ESN would not be different...!!!

Whyem15:
It will be very unwise for the government to fight back right now.... That is exactly IPOB's plan so that they can get the sympathy of the people and get more recruits. The best thing to do is to avoid them. The militants will soon start making mistakes and the local population that are sympathetic to them currently will soon start getting tired of them.

KingAzubuike:
Those are different from what's presently going on with IPOB and ESN. In Zaki biam for example, it was a retaliation for the killing of about 19 soldiers by a militia group. What's happening today involving ESN is no agitation against the military. They got no business with the military, what they have business with is the fulanis and their rampaging herdsmen killing people on another man's soil. Biafra can't just sit and watch, that's why they set up ESN just like oduwa republic set up Amotekun. The ESN aren't killing Nigerian soldiers and will never commit such heinous atrocity.

yoged:
The video was edited. How come the corpse in that video looks like a week dead body?.. There is one thing I don't understand., if truly boko haram brought it down. Does that mean The jet fighter dont have missile alerts or missile flares to give the missiles wrong course, that's to tell u how antique the jet fighters Nigeria has been acquiring, and they will spend the money to buy properties in Dubai, and other places killing young Nigerian pilots. Terrible

Whyem15:
The bastards just got lucky. With the air traffic in the northeast theater in the last 2 days, they would have attempted to shoot another one down if they were sure of the capability. It might be MANPAD, it might be AA guns either way, it shouldn't be much of a threat for NAF. They need only enforce high altitude flying as from now on.
Also, aircrafts should be sent on missions with countermeasures. MANPADs are no threat to the MI-35s.

And also, this is what you get when you want to do everything cheaply, most of the times they use cannons, rockets and dumb bombs to attack BH/ISWAP's high value targets and gun trucks with average results when missiles would do the work far more effectively and with minimal risks

Valkrie:
Bros yes nah...stories abound in the public domain of sabotage within...even the other general sent on a mission with a very wrong Intel..what did you think happened there? They had to demote him for miraculously escaping the trap sef....sabotage abound within the armed forces fighting the boko war and that's a fact..!!

SamuelAnyawu:
There have been rumors of this here in the Northeast. Also rumors of Soldiers almost finishing of or closing up on terrorists only to be called by Superiors to withdraw.

But I try not to believe such rumors.

DubaiLandLord:
Gunmen suspected to be bandits have reportedly invaded the camp of the Joint Security Task Force comprising of the Army, Police, Civil Defence and Vigilantes at Allawa and opened fire on them, killing an undisclosed number of soldiers in the process in Niger State.

An officer of the Nigeria Security and Civil Defence Corps (NSCDC) was also killed in the attack while many security personnel sustained injuries.

They also abducted over 10 persons, stole seven motorcycles and burnt down military vehicles in attacks that happened on Wednesday and in the early hours of Thursday.

The communities attacked by the bandits are Allawa, Manta, Gurmana, Bassa and Kokki in Shiroro council.

Eyewitnesses said the bandits attacked Manta, Gurmana and Bassa villages on Wednesday, where they killed one Alhaji Sale in Madalla community and kidnapped four people.

Reacting to the incident, President, Shiroro Youth Movement, Mohammed Sani Idris, said the bandits, in 100s, were armed with AK47 and attacked the communities for about five hours unchallenged.

“During the invasion, they killed one Alhaji Sale in Madalla community under Bassa ward and kidnapped four people and went away with two motorcycles”

“Also in Kokki Boddo a community under Gurmana ward, they abducted six persons and took away five motorcycles, five people were also kidnapped in Manta ward,” Idris said.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/gunmen-storm-military-camp-in-niger-kill-soldiers-abduct-10-burn-vehicles/

ugo4u:
I think this corroborates Samuel's post days back

motymop:
The foreign fighters that assisted the majahedeen were made up of different arab nationalities.Infact, the chechens, Pakistanis volunteers for al Qaeda all fought against the Russians. Osama was just for cash and training. Al Qaeda bases and training camps have all been in Pakistan from day 1.

And Osama didn't leave in Africa after 9/11

Osama lived in Sudan from 1992 -1996,, in 1996, he left for Afghanistan.

motymop:
After the Russian Afghan war, the country was controlled by different warlords who carved parts for themselves to make money, they killed people and turned Afghans into slaves, the Mujahedeen who were former fighters in the war, saw the atrocities of the warlords and decided to create the taliban movement to bring back peace and human rights to Afghanistan. The taliban movement was headed by Mawlawi Abdul Samad and Amir and Mullah Omar who was the commander,( all Afghanis)they cleared the country of warlords and then gained political power to form the Taliban regime of Afghanistan. The Taliban movement was only interested in Affairs of Afghanistan and not in any outside affairs, their main goal was to bring peace to Afghanistan and to foster international relations with the US through the oil company UNOCAL.

Al Qaeda on the other hands are different from the talibans, Al Quada was an all-Arab camp created in Jaji in 1986, Al Qaeda comprises of only Arabs with their leader Osama Bin laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri( Arabs). Osama was the medium of training and sponsorships of arab college students who were willing to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, also he was willing to internationalize the struggle against the Russians and take it as far as Philippines, Al quada is like an Arab legion that can defend Muslim causes everywhere. So your notion that Al Qaeda are Afghanistan tribes is wrong.

Talibans are a nationalist movement and only Afghans could join, it was created for the survival of the Afghans people while Al Qaeda is an Arab group.

The United states lost the war not because of the terrains but because of the Taliban unity among themselves, many of the Taliban forces were experienced fighters who fought during the Afghan Russian war and also because muslims from around the world sent fighters to fight a muslim cause, the united states were fighting against different groups...very hard to win that type of war.

demolition:

we go soon buy trident

motymop:
But it is amazing, how the Talibans were never defeated.

First the Russians fought them, the United states and the world fought them, they were never defeated.

This made me realise that you can't defeat an idea...now the United states wants to broker peace with the talibans through negotiations.

Why didn't they think about that in the first place, the lost of lives will have been averted.

The tamil tigers were another determined militant groups who have birth to sucide bombing, it is interesting that after 24 years, the former president of sri lanka was able to defeat them and you are right that the present battle is the battle of the mind and heart....it is very hard to defeat an idea.

DaddyGoo:
Our Indian friend(welcome back @Nemesis) suspects fuel-air explosives.

And I can agree because by God, those things ROAST everything in their damage radius.

shadowprimezero:
The JF-17 just arrived on Sunday along with PAF technical team. Its still in the process of being assembled and hasn't even been handed over yet, yet you're telling us the jets were involved in combat missions on two separate fronts a few hours after delivery. You can't blame anyone if they decide not to take you seriously now!

Additionally, not only is RAAD-II cruise missile not in any way nuclear armed, but its still in its early stage of testing Pakistan. The missile hasn't even been delivered to PAF yet and you're here confidently spewing nonsense saying NAF has already deployed them in combat? Lol

motymop:
Yes.Extradition between the UK and Nigeria is facilitated by a multilateral treaty, “The London Scheme for Extradition within the Commonwealth”. Nigeria is a Part 2 territory under the Extradition Act 2003,.

As for Diezani, her case is very complicated because she is a citizen of both nigeria, dominican republic and the uk.

Infact, she has a diplomatic passport for Dominican republic, were she was appointed Trade and Investment Commissioner for the Commonwealth of Dominica.

It is very difficult to arrest someone on diplomatic passport because of its immunity.

motymop:
Dual citizen is not a problem, Nigerian government is not putting pressure on The Uk government to arrest and extradict him.

A similar incident happened in the Uk, where an iman( Abu Hamza al-Masri) with dual citizenship ( Uk and Egyptian)incited violence, the united state government requested for his extradition, and he was extradited, now he is serving life imprisonment in US prison.

If Nigerian Government are serious about Nnamdi kanu, they would get him arrested or even make an interpol wanted call on his head.

motymop:
Didn't you write that Al quada gave birth to bokoharam and Al Shabaab, then i wrote that they never merge and i also wrote that al Qaeda never gave birth to both groups.

Affilates does not mean Aqim gave birth to boko haram or al Shabaab.

Affiliates mean, Aqim has a relationship with both group.

Note: boko haram or Al Shabaab are not a splinter group of Al Qaeda.

When you are ready to write properly without abuse, then we can exchange knowledge, for now bye.

Parachoko:
Oh!! Thanks for the correction

If this unknown gunmen are ESN, I read a report about the fight Abba Kyari lead against ESN in a forest in orlu. He had to withdraw and call in the military for help.

But i will love to get an answer to this question. Why is the FG not asking the British government to deport Nnamdi Kanu? He is the one in charge of IPOB and IPOB has been declared as a terrorist group in Nigeria.

We can even tell the British to charge him for terrorism. Or is there no evidence the FG can use in prosecuting him?

Whyem15:
It is still in production in some countries. Azerbaijan used it extensively in the last war with Armenia. Israel still produces it along with other banned weapons like white phosphorus. Majority of UN resolutions are only meant for weak countries. And also, several countries have enormous stockpiles.

Stephandesward:
Why do I feel its cluster bomb this joscofelix dude is talking about.
The air force has always had the capability , with the sepecat jaguar and the alpha jet has the capability to deploy this weapon system.
Truly if you have been inside major armouries in Nigeria, you'll wonder why boko haram still exist.
The philosophy then in the battlebus against bht was different than now, and so that innocent population won't be killed, trust me, if we were to fight Chad or Cameroon the amount of weapons that we would bare down in the enemy , would be devastating on them, only that they platforms to deliver most of these weapons are lacking now.

mekussa:
Secret Spectat Jaguar program....
Nuclear missile attack....
Nuclear BOMB attack.....
Secret NUCLEAR weapons purchase......
Nuclear weapons delivery by alpha jet.....

And someone asked me why I love nairaland.

Parachoko:
Who are this unknown gunmen killing our policemen in the East? They gunned down some policemen today.

JOSCOFELIX:
from what i heard it was a misslie nuclear strike. army are shooting those who want to run through kaduna,kastina. ever the airstrike in lake chad nuclear strike

motymop:
It is hard to exchange knowledge with Nigerians.

It is always abuse from abuse, if you don't disagree with someone can you simply write that you don't agree, which one is i am dumb, i don't believe in what i wrote, i am saying nonsense and all sort of rubbish, for your information, it doesn't make logical sense. Must you always show that you are aggressive and angry.

Back to the topic.

1) Boko haram had over 100k members, pls go to YouTube and check Muhammad yusuf preaching and then see the numbers of people listening to him, so it will easy to get 5k who wants to fight for the sect...Muhammed Yusuf was so popular that even your present minister of Technology ISA PATAMI interviewed him and was closed to him.

Was boko haram used as a means to get vote? Yes.
After election, the governor saw no use of them and then went against them, no wonder, they took up weapons, i still stand with my point, the police escalated the issue.

2) Boko haram and Al-Shabaab are 2 different groups with different ideologies and there was never a time they merge together, boko haram didn't come from al Qaeda, it was formed on its own since 2002 and idealogy was strictly the taliban method, al shabaab was formed in 2006 after the break down of the islamic court in somalia.

JOSCOFELIX:
oga go back and read the story. the governor never order the police to shoot it was president yarudua that order the military and police to kill people in the mosque based on the intelligent that the he has a link to isis. ever the former borono governor was involved with some accusation

motymop:
Learn to comprehend before commenting.

My comment was about bokoharam before they went the militant way.

They were just a religious group...the arms and men came after the killings of their members by the police.

Muhammad yusuf the leader of bokoharam was a former aide to Alhaji buji Foi former commissioner of religious affairs in bornu state.

Know that the police killed both of them unjustly which angered the sect.