₦airaland Forum

DubaiLandLord1:
The word in bold is a lie. How is asking for secession not a sensible demand

The English defeated the Scottish in a war and scotland have been under the English control ever since then. The Scottish have been giving the chance to decide if they will remain in the UK or not, and majority decided to still remain part of the UK.

If you're David Cameron, you would have threatened the Scottish people with wars and total annihilation.

Even Cataluyans wants to secede from Spain.

My only disagreement with IPOB and ESN is that they should go through this secession process through a democratic means and through dialogue.

But I still give it to IPOB, with the way Nigerian army personnel have been killing IPOB members, who will forget the recent one in oyigbo(it was what lead to some igbos that believe in Biafra to create UGM), no group will want to remain a peaceful group after this kin unprovoked killings by the Nigerian army. I expect ESN to be the ones attacking security personnel, but they have chosen not to do so.

There is no way you will expect an IPOB or an Igbo man that have witnessed all this crimes by the Nigerian army not to be in support of UGM.

Valkrie:
Can you prove it in court beyond reasonable doubt....!! E better to leave them as UGM...even the govt never said they where ESN...!!

DaddyGoo:
The diaspora and the access to finance that were not there in '67 for me are the scariest.

Without finance and a large diaspora, the "rebels" in the East held the FG, which had unprecedented Cold War support (US, UK, Israel, Egypt and Soviet),for 30 very bloody months.

Presently the diaspora contribute US$25 billion a year as at 2018/19 to Nigeria.

And truth be told majority of them are Igbo.

FG needs to calm the hell down and use brain, not gun for this.

For context, Buhari was a Major in '67 in the heat of the battle.

Today, he is a Major General who has been retired for over 30 years.

I expect far more wisdom and tact than what is presently being done by the FG, seeing as old soldiers are supposed to be wise.

Valkrie:
War come and go and people would still remain...with the current situation in the country I don't think any average Nigerian is afraid of war any longer..we all have been in a state of war for the past 6 years not even talking about those in the NE...!! Fact remains the Nigerian army can never I repeat can never win this war...anybody here can bring insult...The Americans with all their mighty had to leave Afghanistan and pursuing dialogue..but the dumbo we have here in the govt and army thought they can win against the masses...they should do a test run of military against the population and they would learn a very bitter lesson....!!

As far as this country is now...nobody cares for anybody once the chips are down all.those who contributed to making this crises would hop on the next available aircraft and run away....!!

The war is simply between the oppressed and the oppressors and the army should know that quickly or else they would end up as the burnt offering....!!

DubaiLandLord1:
I still believe the solution now is negotiation between the FG and IPOB.

DubaiLandLord1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrw8mkWd8Os


See as UGM dey work bodly for broad daylight.

Gentlelord:
I will be very pained if Oga Ahanotu choose to resign or made to, mehn that man is an intelligent, smart, a no nonsense general and of course a battle tested veteran. His name is forever engraved in the history of Nigerian Army Armour corps, his emotional intelligence is also top notch.

Truly the system of retiring experienced Generals need to be reshuffled. The Country has invested so much on them to see them retire abruptly.

Congratulations to the new COAS I pray his reign is Way way longer than the 21st and he is led to have the right set of people around him, that would help him "kick the ass of those Bastards"- words of Ahanotu.

JOSCOFELIX:
oga i am not here to argue with you, i am telling you to go and confirmed from military official. any offense committed both in operation and out operation is meant to be treated in military court. and any personal being arrested by any law enforcement agency , the agency will have to write to the military police if for the Nigeria army , if he/she is an airforce personal they will have to write to the air force police and if he/she is a navy personal they have to write to the naval police for authorization. oga go and ask and stop bring point for argument

Odunayaw:
You're preaching to the choir. I honestly feel restructuring is just lipstick on a pig. The people are the problem 70%

JOSCOFELIX:
it is their tradition. you dare not arrested a serving military personal whether a Nco or Co officer without an authorization from the military police department

DaddyGoo:
You know oga, on this thread na only you get unfilthy hole!

Small thing you go begin lob insults dey tell person say dem no get sense.

Unfortunately this shows just the kind of person you are.

I'm not gonna exchange words with you but in the name of God, stop insulting everybody you interact with here.

Back to topic, I am very aware of the CDCC and a lot of the things that happened back then which produced the constitution, and ultimately the OBJ Government.

Still doesn't change the fact that the constitution writing process was kicked off by the military.

Which made them bigger stakeholders in the process, and the final result, than they should have been under normal circumstances.

I hope you are clear now.

ugo4u:
I agree we need strong institutions but how do we now tackle the issue of revenue generation and sharing formula? Which in my own opinion is the major cause of the grumblings & rumblings in the country especially the Southern states. How can we explain to the common man that states can't generate their own power without being forced to feed it to the national grid? The matter just plenty.

ugo4u:
This is also a form of federalism which devolves powers to smaller units like I said earlier things can be tweaked to meet today's realities. A constitution that allocates resources based on population and geographical size is fraudulent & it's bound to breed agitations.
Fiscal federalism in its truest sense is what majority of Nigerians are clamouring for if we're being honest.

lebuhsi:
The 1999 Constitution was crafted by solely by civilians

Town hall meetings, consensus and all that.
This thread would further explain this

The 1999 is not exactly new, it's a replica of the 1979 Constitution with very slight adjustments.

https://twitter.com/yinkanubi/status/1392393437207572483?s=19[/quote][color=#000099]Don't mind the ignorant imp, at some point I started feeling sorry for him because despite being ignorant, he strongly believed quoting political jobbers makes him right.

Kaeboy:
Everything you've being saying here is making no sense at all. Do you even listen to your self atimes? Your sense of reasoning smells, your opinion stinks horribly.

For your information, bad days are gone, now it's either things are done right or this country that is your people's only source of feeding will be divided.

E go shock una, una go think say na joke. Era of monkey dey work, baboon dey chop must stop. Na dieing minutes we dey oo.
Everybody must spend what they earn.

If the restructuring will not accomodate things as we want, then a restructuring will not happen at all. There is no room for mistakes this time, even the sold out leaders in the south that are dinning with you people can't stop it. Nonsense!

ugo4u:
Lol! Pretend as if you didn't see where I said the '63 constitution could be fine tuned to meet today's realities. Of course as the paid gov't hag you're you won't see it, you'll rather delve into ethnic dog whistling. Even the Ijaws, Itshekiris and other minorities your talking about are all calling for restructuring, we now have six regions each of which can stand on their own, how the Igbos who are chiefly in the south east will be lording over the minorities who are in the South South defies logic and only concretise the notion that the foolishness in your reasoning is inate, cancerous and contagious even if you're poked with a needle you will never get the point, you have sold your dignity in exchange for tradermonie, in all honesty I would love to exam the brains of the people that brought you to this world, who knows science may have answers to the roof breaking idiocy jammed into the brains of an individual.
The joke is on you.

ugo4u:
Don't confuse Basic military training which is what is done at depot and other military institutions in the world for specialised trainings, after depot training some will still go for further training. Nobody will be teaching you advanced counter Insurgency, etc At boot camp when the most important thing at that stage is learning how to properly shoot your rifles, read and interpret maps, fieldcraft etc. Military training is always a continuum.

EricBraven:
What you wrote hear made no sense

DaddyGoo:
The Abdulsalam government that wrote the 1999 constitution was a selected, and not elected government.

So how in the name of God can that jankara document be better than one drafted by our founding fathers?

DaddyGoo:
The Abdulsalam government that wrote the 1999 constitution was a selected, and not elected government.

So how in the name of God can that jankara document be better than one drafted by our founding fathers?

ugo4u:
I even have a copy of that constitution stop this your primitive gaslighting that there were crises in the western region chiefly caused by the bitter politics between Politicians then the 1963 constitution is now totally useless. Even prominent Nigerians including SANs are calling for us to return to that constitution, we can fine tune it to meet today's realities rather than patching, managing and reviewing the 1999 constitution which is the worst because it never came from the people. Let's assume 1963 constitution is rubbish, what should we now do? Continue to run the country this way? Oppps!!! I guess Nigeria is working fine under this present administration due to the political and economic sagacity of Messiah PMB, since the Messiah is not in support of restructuring then we should fall in line like zombies.

DubaiLandLord1:
Smoking restrictions ko, drinking restrictions ni!

Give me name of states where smoking is banned like the way Kano, Kastina, sokoto, zamfara etc banned the consumption of alcohol you dey write nonsense up and down.

I no know why this argument dey long like this sef. I talked about Kano Government earning from Beer tax money just to buttress my point about needing to restructure Nigeria. I no even understand what your argument is sef

Sharia states shouldn't be entitled to money that's been earned from states that allows people to drink beer.

You're always arguing like a dull person sha

This is the way you argued fulanis herdsmen were not to be blamed for herdsmen and farmers clashes, now you have been proved wrong by Southern Governors. Even some Northern Governors like that of Benue state and even Miyetti Allah don give full support to the law.

My statement is simple, states that do not allow their citizens to consume beer, tax from sales of beer that is been earned from states that allows their citizens to consume beer should be shared between those states that allows their citizens to consume beers.

Are you related to Garba shehu or Malami? You dull like those two men I write their names up there.

If everything dey go smoothly, lawmakers won't be working on reviewing the 1999 constitution. I'm sure this is one of the matters people go table down. Let states pay a certain percentage to the FG. So if I dey ikorodu, dey drink beer, the tax earned from it will stay in Lagos. Nigerian Breweries or Guinness won't have to pay to ABJ. The process whereby such money will go to ABJ, ABJ go com share am between Lagos and Kastina is unacceptable.

Me ayam tired of having this kind of discussion here, I won't read you next reply not to talk of replying it.

Kaeboy:
And how exactly did you know it was a grenade and not IED

ugo4u:
1963 constitution still remains the most practicable piece of document if we're to have any semblance of a sane nation. If we're being truthful to ourselves the major issue about restructuring borders on fiscal federalism and resource control, we saw how the regions then were in serious competition amongst themselves in terms of development.
The people giving excuse aren't serious and sincere about solving the myriads of issues facing the country maybe untill everything collapse. It will never make sense for states who criminalises, bans and confiscate Alcohol to still enjoy revenue from the same alcohol, these are some of the problems breeding discontent and separatist agitations in the country let states/region take charge of the resources in their domain and pay an agreed percent to the centre, this is how it is done in the US we went to do copy and paste. One man in Khaki just sat in his bedroom and came up with a document and said it is "We the people" as if Nigerians were consulted when it was being conjured. The simple truth there is if something is not done urgently to rethinker with structure of this country just like the Titanic it is bound to sink, it's just a matter of when.

DubaiLandLord1:
Mtchewww

Is there a law stopping people from smoking in this non smoking areas you're talking about?

DubaiLandLord1:
Nigeria is practising false federalism since we are copying the USA.

A situation whereby the Kano state Government won't allow beers be consumed in Kano, but will be receiving VAT from Beers sales is no more acceptable.

Though I agree with you, there is nothing like "true federalism"

Kaeboy:
That story was a hoax. Ask yourself if you've ever see any Nigeria Police with grenade openly before? That was a suicide bomber, police and state govt are just trying to cover it up

Stephandesward:
Why are jet fighter pilots flying beechcraft? I'm not a pilot, just an observation.

DubaiLandLord1:
True federalism, like is been practised in the USA or the way the UK is been run will end most of this madness in Nigeria.

Imagine southern Governors banning open grazing, and an ordinary presidential spokesperson they release a press statement challenging Governors authority.

Is just so funny, in this 2021, make cows roaming about or not dey be one of the major topics been talked about in a country

Ddream6627:
Can someone explain why 12 tucano's are more expensive than the 50 F-35 plz

Whyem15:
The alpha jet is the workhorse of the NAF, in the course the 11 years insurgency, they've flown several thousand hours. How long until these few aircrafts reach their service span limit? What if they've actually passed it? Same as the beechcrafts.

Before now, we've had very little crash in the 11 years insurgency. If these series of crashes are due to poor maintenance culture, does that mean the lack of incidents in the last few years have been due to luck?

NAF pilots have one of the longest flight experience and training in Africa. So poor training is out of it. If it were training, we would have lost more than 10 within a year considering how frequently they fly.

demolition:

Officers are very emotional right now. Like the man died in a hot seat. Like actually on ops moving around.
Like even if there's a pressing matter for buhari. Where's the vice president?
Like nobody could spare 2hours off schedule for a top 10 citizen?
Like even the flag bearer don't matter?

Its a must the troops would ask themselves questions.