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Let's create Urhobo State, Itsekiri State, Ikwere State, Anioma State, Afemai, Ijaw State, Tiv State, Nupe State etc.

No let's create Ikeja State, Owerri State, Nnewi State, Aniocha State, Surulere State, Ilorin State, Osogbo State, Birnin Kebbi State. Let's turn the 774 local govt areas into states so that ALL our problems will be solved.

We are great jokers in this country. We are like the man whose house is on fire, but rather than quenching the fire or rescuing his property, he is busy pursuing the rats fleeing of his house.

From three regions to 4 in 1963 and 12 states in 1967 to 19 in 1976 to 21 in 1987 to 30 in 1991 and to 36 states in 1996 - all these years, our country has been getting worse. Rather than look for solutions, we are busy prolicking like Nero while Nigeria burns. What unseriousness!

It's not surprising. I did my NYSC in a Lagos Secondary School some years ago. I could not speak in Yoruba. I discovered that most of the JSS1 & 2 students could not communicate at all in English. Any time I had to talk to such kids I would have to call another student to be the interpreter.

But it is not just the public school. Our private schools are bad too. I have had to move my kids out of their school because of the bad English of their teachers despite the high school fees.

I interview graduates for employment regularly. The level of illiteracy I have to contend with is just unbelievable. Our education is close to death.

Our parents and uncles who had only Standard 6 in years past could write good letters and communicate correctly. God help us!

Facebook is cool but it is too pretentious. If a friend shows his or her family's picture with her/his spouse or kid looking like a monkey, you will see people shout ,"what a lovely family! You are great in that picture!"  If a man shows the picture of his wife looking fatter than Yokozuna, rather than people telling him to advise his wife to lose weight, they will tell him she is so lovely.

But on Nairaland, people say it the way they feel without trying to be nice.

I am frequently on FB but can never be hooked to it for a long time, but NL can make me forget my job and read on for several hours. NL is ours and hot anyday. There is so much news, gossip, and pulse of the people on it.

I don't think the South is afraid of the North at all. On the contrary, the North is afraid that it cannot compete with the South if things are done by merit. The only way the North believes it can compete well is if it has a hold on power and is in a position to decide who keeps what.

Another problem is that while other ethnic regions try to project their brighest and best, the North tries to project its mediocre people so long as those people can protect the Northern interest. Imagine the North choosing Tafawa Balewa and Shagari (non-graduates and docile men) to compete with Zik and Awo at a time there were very intelligent and visionary men in the North? Who knew that there were young men of action and vision in the North like el-Rufai and Ribadu if not that Obasanjo brought them out? And look at how sharp and decisive Sanusi is today? But all these men will be available and still the North will bring out one docile person as president because he is more likely to maintain the status quo rather than moving Nigeria forward. That is what the South finds so annoying. I don't care who rules this nation so far as there is electricity, good roads, health care, education etc. Fashola is doing well in Lagos - who cares whether he is Yoruba or Ijaw or Nupe? Marwa did well in Lagos - who cared if he was from Adamawa or Anambra?

Rosabelle:
Looking for attention? Go to Religion section or something. Everything you just said sounds like you copied it from some joke column or so

Maybe you need to do a little check on my posts and decide if I have ever sounded like a joker or attention seeker on Nairaland. I added some funny names because even though we are on Nairaland and use pen names, I can never get myself to call some body parts by their real name or informal name. I watched my wife deliver in the hospital and felt horrified when the midwife impatiently gave her a cut and the child came out. I ignorantly thought her privates would even be wider afterwards because of the cut. But I was pleasantly surprised when the wound healed and everything return to the normal size.

That was my experience and I thought it could help some guys who have been fed the type of crap I was fed. It may also help guys who give all kinds of reasons to be unfaintful.

Peace to you!

@ Poster please go back to the topic and change the topic to read 'Bride Price' - that's very important.

I think paying of bride price is good but it has to be reasonable. In Nnewi the official amount was reduced several years ago to N60.00. Most people would ignore it but there is a trend that started about 10 years ago that is wonderful: u present your prospective father-in-law with any amount you think is good; he thanks u, takes N100.00 (as the symbolic bride price) from it and hands over the rest to u.

I think the reason Igbo marriages seem to last longer than most other marriages in Nig and the world is because of the bride price and other ceremonies that accompany marriage. When a man remembers the trouble he passed thro to get his wife, he thinks twice before deciding to send her home and marry a new wife. And in Igboland it is increasingly becoming shameful and out-dated for a man to marry two wives or divorce his wife and marry another.

But I think each family, village and town should vociferously talk about making it as cheap and as simple as possible to marry. When it becomes too expensive and rigorous, marriage loses the joy that should go with it.

When I was single I was told that once a woman gives birth and breastfeeds, her 'treasure island' becomes as wide as the Lagos-Ibadan expressway, while her 'Oshodi Oke,' 'Adazi-enu' or 'Iruka' becomes like bathroom slippers. But after three kids and about 10 years of marriage, the 'engine room' has become even more exciting to visit - I don't even notice any difference between now and pre-childbirth, even though the midwife, to my annoyance and horror, hurriedly gave her a bad cut during the first delivery. In addition, the 'upper chamber' is still not bad to look at and feel. With the little weight she gained over the years, it has become even more pleasurable going to 'HOLYwood' these days than before childbirth. I wonder where people get all these fake theories they peddle, or is my case just different?

igbo boy:
I take that as an insult , I dont think there is one way of saying certain words in Igbo. Depending on your geographical location words might sound different. And hecks yea I know it means that

Pls which Igbo dialect says "obasara gi?" rather than "O gbasara gi?" I would like to learn that.

igbo boy:
igbo boys keep practicing your kidnap skills cos we will need it in the advent of liberation coming soon

If you felt insulted by my correction, I felt humiliated and dragged in the mud as an Igbo by your above justification of kidnapping as a tool the Igbo race will use if it becomes a country. That is a HUGE INSULT on the integrity of Ndi-Igbo. A true son of Igboland (nwa afo) cannot justify kidnapping and call it a tool the Igbo or Biafran country will use in future. Anyone who justifies kidnapping is a traitor that should be punished for treasonable felony (Minimum punishment should be execution or life imprisonment).

WilyWily:
Oduduwa people deported them only because those Beggars are poor,
Nigerians still don't know how Wicked Yorubas are.

WilyWily, I hope you don't hope bashing the Yoruba without a reason will make you a champion of the Igbo or whatever ethnic group you claim. Don't cheapen yourself, brother. True Igbo sons and daughters are not cheap. This is a serious topic that does not need this low-road diversion.

@ Igbo_Boy, if you are Igbo indeed, that statement is "O gbasara gi?" not "obasara gi (which means: Does it concern you?)

@sjeezy, your level of argument is really disturbing. Nobody is arguing that there are more kidnappings in the SW than SE or SS. It is obvious where the rate of kidnapping is highest as of today. But to start behaving like the ostrich, crowing that kidnapping is purely a SE thing is short-sighted and tribalistic. Nobody knows where the wind will blow tomorrow. That is the danger.

tpia.:
you must be mad.

This topic has been discussed ad infinitum when the ONE INCIDENT first happened. Yorubas in Igboland immediately swung into action and denounced it in spite of the fact that the perpetrators were most likely not Yoruba. How many times has anyone made a stand against racism and tribalism in your own area?

On Nairaland alone, how many Igbos as a group have done the same (denounced close mindedness) when some Igbos and their supporters start xenophobic rants against other tribes and especially Yorubas?

@tpia, sometimes you pretend to be altruistic, brilliant and large-hearted but u conveniently choose to see what u want to see and hear what you want to hear, turning actions and words to suit your purpose.

1. Kidnapping was not just ONE INCIDENT in the SW, neither was the kidnapping of Igbo in the West just ONE INCIDENT.

2. The Yoruba in Igboland, while condemning the kidnapping of Igbo in the SW, praised their Igbo hosts for their hospitality and protection of foreigners in their land. I guess you did not read that in that post, neither did u see it as commendable?

3. Talking about Igbos not condemning tribalistic comments or actions in Nigeria is also convenient falsehood. Some key Yorubas (like Gani, Soyinka, Falana, etc) are known for standing for justice, but they have other people across Nigeria who work with them. The Igbo race is not known to support their son when he is wrong. (No doubt, other ethnic groups do it too.) Maurice Iwu is hated most today in Igboland. Akunyili has lost her shine as far as the Igbo are concerned. Also if there is an ethnic group that does not villify their brother for having a contrary opinion on any issue that concerns the Igbo race, it is the Igbo. The best chance the Igbo had of ruling Nig was in 1998/99 when Ekwueme contested in PDP, after leading the G-34. Jim Nwobodo came out to act as a spoiler. Orji Uzor Kalu and others went to BBC and other media to campaign against Ekwueme. Ekwueme lost. Igbos were sad but Nwobodo, Kalu etc were not treated like outcasts in Igboland. Ojukwu fought against the presidential ambition of Zik in 1983. Zik lost. Edwin Umezeoke fought against Ojukwu for the Senate in 1983 despite how Ojukwu, fresh from exile, was seen as a demi-god then. Ojukwu lost. Till today Zik, Ojukwu, Umezeoke are seen as Igbos sons and leaders. But in the SW, because Akintola (backed by the Northern might) dared to contest against Awo and beat him (rightly or wrongly), Akintola, Fani-Kayode etc are still seen as saboteurs, political outcasts, in the SW till today. The same thing goes for Adeniran Ogunsanya - for following Zik till his death, he is seen as a half-Yoruba till today. When he died, the Igbos had to close all their markets in Lagos to go and show their solidarity with him for being a friend of their leader. Abiola was seen as a Northern apologist and Yoruba enemy (for being in NPN and working against the interest of Awo) until after he was denied his June 12 election victory in 1993. That was when the Yoruba leaders of thought came out to fight for him.

On Nairaland, whenever an Igbo starts raising unfounded tribal sentiments, many Igbo have condemned such. When an Igbo recently beat a Yoruba to win a (literary?) award and the poster used it to crow about Igbo supremacy, every Igbo who replied condemned the tribal slur in the post. I know  people like Aloy~Emeka have condemned Igbo bigots on NL. I have done that too on many occasions.

I hate it when someone tries to arrogate sainthood or superiority to his ethnic group while condemning other ethnic groups. Every ethnic group has something thatit  is better at in Nigeria, and has something that it is worse at. The strength of other nations is that every group contributes its "asset" to the growth of that nation.

This thread had no ethnic colouration until ethnic champions like you (sjeezy & tpia) started throwing ethnic missiles. I think it is a shame that no national discussion can hold in Nigeria without some ethnic bigot derailing it.

And I think it is disgusting for someone to ever tell the Igbo to go back to their home states, when the Igbo defend other settlers in their states and even give them free lands to build on. If Nigerians can live and own property in the UK, US, Dubai etc, I don't see why anbody in Nigeria should ever open his trap and tell anyone to go back to his homeland. That is how genocide brews and is executed.

Poverty is no crime but begging is a vice. Any human being who is not completely mentally handicapped has no excuse to beg -whether blind, crippled, deaf, dumb, disfigured etc.

The begging spirit is a terrible spirit.

Beggars must be counselled to learn a trade and feed themselves.

Sometimes one gets annoyed by some people who seem to think through their anuses. Any time a serious issue is brought up, some tribal bigot adds ethnicity in it. It started again on this thread with Sjeezy or what saying kidnapping was an Igbo thing, and all hell was let loose.

When South-South militants started kidnapping Whites, some people saw it as a justifiable means of protest against years of neglect. When all the Whites left Niger Delta, they turned to politicians. When politicians ran away from the area, they turned to everybody. Then their nearest Igbo neighbour (Abia) copied it and it spread to the whole South East.

It has entered Yoruba land and some myopic Yoruland are still thinking it is a South East affair. How shallow-minded!

I go home every year with my family but this year, no show. But my worry is that even in Lagos here I am not too comfortable that my kids and wife are safe.

We need to start shouting more for government to do something serious about this EVIL OR CANCER, or let everybody buy a gun and start carrying it about in case, I am so sad about this kidnapping crisis- it kills an economy because nobody wants to bring in his money and invest. And the more people pay ransom, the more they are emboldened to kidnap more people. Lord have mercy!

Are there no university students on Nairaland anymore, or those with siblings or friends in the university? Pls someone give me this info. Thanks a lot in advance.

How much is the school fees in a federal univeristy in Nigeria like UNN, Unilag, ABU, OAU, UI, UniBen etc?

Do all Federal Univeristies charge the same fees in Nig?

Pls I need true answers. Thanks.

tpia.:


how can you explain condom or sex to a 7 year old?

daft thread

@Tpia, I don't like to respond to insults because it cheapens me but pls what is daft about this thread? Are u married? Do u have an inquisitive 7-yr- old girl? Or do you haul jibes because people use pen names on Nairaland without pictures and nobody sees the other person?

The reason why this thread came up was that given the commotion in the church when the condom dropped out of Sam Loco Efe's pocket as he was bringing out money for thanksgiving, my girl was wondering what all the fuss was about. I was wondering if I should explain to her in full or just tell her something, while also considering the dangers of any option I take.

What amount of sex education is good for a 7 yr old girl?

How do you handle this? You are watching a Nollywood movie with your 7-Year-old daughter. Sam Loco Efe is in the movie. He is in front of the pastor in a church scene in the movie and a condom falls out of his pocket. The Pastor starts asking him about the condom and the whole church is complaining about Sam Loco and his condom.  :oThen your daughter asks you, "Daddy, what is condom?"  What do you tell her? Pls I want honest and serious replies.

My tax is part of that N14b. Is yours part of it? As you praise Fashola, pls answer Jenifa question: "Have you pay ya tass?"

Yes Amodu qualified us for the World Cup. That's a big feat no doubt, although it was fate that dropped the World Cup ticket in our lap. My concern is not just the result but the way our team has been playing since he took over this time around. It has never been the Super Eagles we used to know. They play with no pattern and coordination. (The U-17 Did not win the Cup but they played purposeful and exciting football. If they had left at the quarter- or semi-final, I would still have praised them).

Amodu just sits down and stares like someone who is dazed and drugged. He was not like this before; he used to look sure-footed and confident. Does he take drugs these days? (No insult meant)- just wondering what his problem is.

Westerhof was no good coach but he used gra-gra (showmanship) and people like Bonfrere Jo to achieve great results.

I think some tactical Nigerian coaches should be sent to help Amodu. My fear is that given the way Amodu is going, we may wobble and fumble at the Nations Cup and then disgraced at the World Cup. Then the same people rooting for Amodu will turn around and crucify the NFA/NFF.

Nigerians are terrible losers. Because we lost, Okoro, Emmanuel etc have all become selfish and bad; Abuja stadium, Aso Rock etc have become the problem. If one of those shots that hit the crossbar or saved by the Swiss goalie had entered, we would have been praising the same boys. I think we need to be ashamed of our ingratitude and short memory. We did not deserve to qualify for World 2010, yet God gave it to us. Half of our U-17 team was removed through the MRI test; a new team assembled within 2 months by a new coach after two other coaches had been sacked; we lost three goals to Germany and came back to level scores; no Nigerian believed the team would go far, yet it reached the final, outplayed Swiss guys by ball possession and lost by one goal; and yet we have the mouth to complain and look for whom to blame. Haba! Na real waah for una!

The best way to mind your business is to tell her the truth. She is not married yet, so there is nothing like "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder." She has the right to continue with the wedding plans or pull out. But don't tell her directly. Just buy a new sim card and send her a long text message, giving as much evidence as possible (Also open a yahoo email address and send her a mail). Tell her to investigate it if she likes. If you don't let her know the truth, your conscience may disturb u all your life.

Can someone look at this perspective in this issue?

Why has the Sun been running stories that portray Ojukwu as an ineffective leader? Two Saturdays ago, the Sun ran the interview of Mobolaji Johnson portraying Ojukwu in bad light on Aburi accord and other war issues. Last Saturday the Sun ran a cover story where Uwechue said that Ojukwu was the reason Biafra failed.

Now look at these coincidences. The Sun is owned by Orji Uzor Kalu. Kalu has been portraying himself as the new leader/spokesman of the Igbo, esp the youths/traders. Ojukwu has been the greatest threat to Kalu's ambition because the Igbo still see Ojukwu as a hero/legend, while they are never sure of where Kalu stands, whether he is serious or just playing to the gallery.

It seems (it may not be) that these stories in the Sun newspapers are meant to demystify Ojukwu in the eyes of the Igbo, thereby creating a void in their minds as regards someone to call the authentic Igbo leader. I smell a rat in this - my hunches never go wrong.

I always feel sad when this ethnic war between the Igbo and Yoruba over the unfortunate 1966-1970 events in Nigeria rages. The Yoruba and those who fought on the Nigerian side felt that the "Igbo" got what they deserved for killing Northerners and other Nigerians in the Nzeogwu coup, as if there was an Igbo meeting where all Igbo sons and daughters decided to kill others in a coup. Ask any Yoruba or Hausa or Edo person and he will tell you that the civil war happened simply because Ojukwu was "ambitious." Case closed.

The Igbo on their own part believe that the Yoruba betrayed them, that Awo said if Igbo seceded, Yoruba would follow suit. Pls did Awo promise Igbo that if they seceded, that the Yoruba would follow them, or did he warn Gowon that if he allowed the Igbo to go, the Yoruba would also go? These are two diff statements.

I think the least the Yoruba would do is to ackowledge that the Igbo were unfairly treated in the pogrom of 1966. You don't start a systematic killing of members of a race in the name of retaliation for a coup. It was terrible and unjustifiable. I think it is also defeatist to always call Yoruba cowards and traitors. No Nigerian, dead or alive, has been as fearless, selfless and consistent as Gani Fawehinmi. (Not even Zik, Awo, Ojukwu, Sarduana or whoever). And you can point to Soyinka, Femi Falana etc as selfless fighters. Falana recently took it upon himself to fight for Nigerians, mainly Igbo in Libya, who were marked for executeion or deportation. You don't insult a whole race like that and hope to get anywhere with them.

We should stop this ego masturbation and tribal blame and bashing and move on. Our future is being stolen by politicians and we are busy fighting one another.

[/quote][quote author=tpia. link=topic=339060.msg4765504#msg4765504 date=1255994591]it does make a lot of sense for the university of nigeria to be located in Abuja.

Pls don't derail this thread. You can open a new thread on where the University of Nigeria should be located. But note that when Zik gave the university he founded University of Nigeria, he was laughed at by other Nigerians for showing too foolish love for Nigeria. Even Igbo people were not too happy. Other unis were named about the same time as University of Ibadan, University of Ile-Ife, University of Lagos, Univeristy of Zaria. Only the "foolish and patriotic" Zik (as most people thought) named his uni after Nig. (Even his bank was named after Africa - African Continental Bank, while others in the West and North reflected the regions). But years later the name University of Nig gave the impression that it was the only uni owned by Nig. That became a source of pride to the Easterners and envy to other regions, arising in the thinking that it be transfered to UniAbuja.

The founder of a university can name it whatever and locate wherever. You can found a uni in Nig and name it Uni of Washington or England or Mars, if that name is not yet in existence. But as I begged, pls don't derail this thread like is the practice in Nairaland. Thanks and my regards.

[/quote][quote author=Boboribo link=topic=339945.msg4764286#msg4764286 date=1255979713]How can you say you lose man hours and at the same time call the sites 'interesting'. You can't eat your cake and have it.

There is no contradiction in what I said about the sites being interesting but time-wasting. Sometimes I have important things to do but I just find myself spending several hours reading people's views on Nairaland, Facebook etc to the detriment of my work. I think it is not good for my development. What about you?

The bile and low-raod mentality with which some people respond in Nairaland is really shameful. Every topic is turned into an ethnic war and disrupted from its flow. Na waah for una

Forums like Nairaland, Facebook, Twitter are interesting but many people lose several hours of work on them. I do. What about you?