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Hi bobydo,

I'm about to take the MAP in August this year,
I'll just like to know how impactful was the programme in helping people in your set change jobs or get promotions and what's the average pay of graduates of the MAP program.

Ifeshyne:
You be ghost? kindly scroll up and view the date on the thread sir.

Actually I just got info some days back that they are recruiting again, but I haven't found a way to apply. Dats why I searched and I got led to this post.... I've seen d date.

Hi guys, I can't find the website or any info on how to apply. Someone pls reply with this info pls.

MzNelly:
If you're not in support of what I have written, at least counter my points with equally reasonable ones.

This is not about immorality, don't be ridiculous.

Dare to think. To think outside the box. To question your faith, even just once.
And if you're scared to do so, ask yourself why.

You're not a robot.

I just wish all religious indoctrination/dogma will stop. People can't even think these days!

emoch:
i am ema, i came across your site on the internet and decided to write to enquire more about your fraternity.

i am planning on writing a fictional novel that involves a story based on the ogboni cult. i, like every other nigerian used to believe that the ogboni cult we used to know is a devlish secret society with a lot of influence in the country's political structure. when i came across the ROF site, i am now having second thoughts but there are some issues which i found that points some similarities between the dreaded ogboni we know and the ROF.

THIS novel i believe will go a long way on informing the general public about the differences btw the ogboni we know and the ROF.all i need is to clarify some certain doubts i have, incorporate it into my fiction.i have read over and over information from your website and i have made the following observations. pls note that these are mere observations that needs clarification, even though the novel is meant to be fictional, it would be unwise to publish informations that are misleading especially when the organisation is real.

HERE ARE MY OBSERVATIONS:

1. i noticed that ur logo has a triangle with three symbols(like exclaimation marks) inside and the edan staff with a fire at the backdrop. we all know that symbols go a long way to describe what an organisation stands for. the triangle is a symbol that represents the male(actually called a spear), and the edan staff is actually associated with our own version of the dreaded ogboni. now you claim this frat was founded by a clergy and its essnce is the ultimate veneration of God yet we found no Christian symbol on ur logo only pagan symbols, pls im confused as to why an organisation which claims to be a fraternity of christians have no christian logo

2. you claim your rituals are performed in accordance with ancient rituals,drama,allegory tailored to the standards of the way our forefathers worshipped. i want to believe by that you are trying to strike a balance between paganism and christianity.practicing paganism but giving a christian outlook.
i would believe you can be called a secret society because we are not fully aware of your rituals, i would really appreciate if you can give me an over-view of your rituals. does it involve the use of mystical symbols,chants,dance, etc,

i sincerely believe that no fraternity will give a public what it actually does. i have a feeling that all that is on ur site is just a cover for the real deal happening within your frat. the rituals explains it all.

like i said earlier, these are just abnormalies every curious individual will like to know about.i would really appreciate a full explaination of the following confusion i have for use in my novel, it may serve as a means to further enlighten readers about the true nature of the ROF.

Cos a lot of people believe the ROF is the real dreaded ogboni acting under another guise in order to divert attention.

lastly, as an organisation that is vast in the history of the cultural and pagan practices that were prevalent in this country during the pre-colonial era, i would like to ask, aside from thr ROF, do u believe the Ogboni the average Nigerian dread was or is an existing cult?

thanks

Nice research bro, I'll like to see ur novel.

4amorc:
[img][/img]There is always a phobic element in cults- that is, a deep fear programmed into their members. Members are afraid to criticize or investigate into a cult. This comes fairly early in the process. So beware!

Christians are afraid to criticize or investigate into their teachings, same with muslims. This fear was programmed into their minds as children.

topearos:
The way that seemeth right unto a man leads to destruction ...

Funny enough, the way that seems right to men today is the church, mosque and other religious sects.

FlirtyKaren:
The sign post was spotted at the Festac extension headquarters of the Assemblies of God church, Amuwo Odofin, Lagos.

http://www.lailasblog.com/2015/08/check-out-hilarious-sign-church-uses-to.html

this is utterly stupid and wrong, its worse that its coming from a church.

we should never involve angels or God in petty things like this either as a joke or warning. the same church preaches not to use the name of the lord in vain, this is a very sad picture coming from a church.

and people who claim to be followers of christ and have spiritual values (fruits of the spirit) should atleast care about the environment which God has given them and know the right place to wee.

the signpost could have read, please do not urinate here! this is a church! there was no need to drag the holy name of God and his angels into the matter....... very wrong, infact it almost sounds like blasphemy, were it not coming from a church.

MzNelly:
I'm curious o
What has He personally done for you?

When you're blessed, you praise His name.
When you're distraught, you call Satan.

When someone that does weed all day and has never been to church 'thanks' God for his blessings, I'm just....confused
Is God just something we call to feel good?

Nigeria is the most religious country I can think of
But compared to other countries who believe in atheism, homosexuality, science, they are flourishing more than us even

What convinces you He exists?
What is one thing He has done for you that atheists don't have?

I just want to know

i am very happy to see your post, these are questions that as simple as they are every religious person should think deeply about.

i once asked these same questions, I pray that the almighty father guides you to the realization of truth.

now my answer, i was guided to the realization of truth coincidentally and then through my own efforts and research.

here is what I discovered, the religious attempts to describe God as a person with whatever characteristics are wrong and they keep failing everyday. man should be content that he is of a far lower species than his creator and as such can never understand him or even truly know him. can you imagine animals trying to study and describe human beings? imagine the case when they have never seen a human being, their thinking will never pass their animal level and they will always be wrong!

i discovered that for us on earth, God does not interfere arbitrary in our activities, and he really is not involved in our man-made religions which have divided us, their laws or proposed limitations. God is just there! the only thing is that we and the whole creation have come into existence through his power, as such we dwell in this power, and the will of God is expressed as immovable laws which govern everything that exists through his power.

I wish I can emphasize this, the material world is made up of many universes, each universe many galaxies, each galaxy many planets and stars, the spiritual world is more vast than the physical. please the power which forms and sustains this vast creation does not share its image with man in the literal sense as we have been made to believe, the power does not care about what goes on only on one planet let alone with one individual. the power only maintains everything and manifests as laws.

laws like, you reap what you sow (the law of reciprocal action), if you dont see how some pple may reap the evil in their lives or how some apparently innocent pple are seemingly born to suffer then infuse reincarnation into the picture and it will be complete.

the power of God furthers everything, evil, good, whatever your will is, every activity carried out by the human spirit uses the power of God (knowingly or unknowingly) and this power will bring repercursion as judgement or reward whether u thank him or not, whether u pray or not, whether u belief in his existence or not. nothing is rigidly wrong like the religious sects teach, God does not forbid any one from smoking or drinking, such things have come about through his power and love and they can be good for some purposes, but whoever over-indulges even in the best things must experience the consequence of over indulgence.

so, life is easy, do whatever u like, but know that just as you asked this question and now u are receiving answers so do all your activities bring consequences which you cannot control. so, love your neighbour as yourself, believe in reincarnation so that the picture is complete for u and you understand the need to avoid any karma which must be redeemed on earth so that when you pass on, your soul, if free of sin (debt) may ascend freely to where it belongs.

keep seeking, you are on the right track, the words of jesus is sufficient for ur life, but u dont need to worship jesus or adhere to any man made religious doctrine, but u must honor your creator. the actual teaching of jesus i.e the ways which he demanded that we adjust our lives can be found in other religions and you need not be a christian or a member of any religion at all, u dont need to beg God and so-called praise (can you imagine saying things with the aim of flattering the almighty so that you may then be in his good book and receive from him?), everything we need has been created, all u need do is take. can you think of the fact that crude oil existed long before humans could use them?

all you need to do is live a good life, free of propensities and things u wouldn't want to come back to you (cos they will), and always thank God for the opportunity to exist.

dont feel down as many religious fanatics will make you feel, surround yourself with people who feel the need to identify what is true.

cheers................ i'm happy for you!

yinkamariam:
I went for an interview in grail land for d post of an audit staff,one of the grail land member own the audit firm,naw he wants to employ us with d condition dat we hv to be reading their book if we wanna work with him,somebody should pls help me out,do I accept d offer or reject?

i find myself more comfortable working with people who have absorbed the message because i can trust them. i guess thats why ur boss demands that u read, remember you are holding a sensitive position. however its wrong and doesnt bring any help if your boss imposes it on you.

rotimy:
The truth remains that you and your grail message have no TRUTH to offer except to mislead some unfortunate people. KARMA is a Hindu doctrine that has no place in the word of God and reincarnation is totally in contrast with the word of God in Hebrews 9:27 where it is said "that we are appointed to die once". Karma and reincarnation are NOT the expressions of the laws of God but cultic inventions from groups like the Grail Movement. I WILL NEVER BE A SEEKER OF TRUTH AS REVEALED IN THE GRAIL MEASSAGE! God forbid!

if we are appointed to die once, then who will be alive to burn in hell as the bible teaches? i believe the question of life after death and the fact that the bible only referred to physical death is clear. u have a body, deep down this body is made of atoms and in these atoms lie energy which can neither be created nor destroyed but transformed from one form to another. the energy of your material body may be transformed into manure for the earth but the energy that makes up your spirit and the consciousness of your spirit is not destroyed after it leaves the physical body (with your dreams, you already see that u can experience without your physical body). for some, their spirit return back to God (so to speak) and that is only possible if the spirit is homogeneous to the spirits up there in heaven, where it is not, this spirit will find its level...... maybe hell! but for the spirit in the beyond that knows and thus opens itself to it (reincarnation), the grace of God provides an opportunity for it to incarnate in a new body, a chance to start afresh without being weighed down by the mistakes of the past (no memories of the past), a chance to repay old debts (which is why some people are born in unfortunate circumstances and some pple suffer for no obvious reason) to be free.

i just want to give an insight into the truth of reincarnation, its not for u to believe or fight against, its for u to investigate. when jesus was asked why the begger was blind he answered; so that the grace of God may be made manifest, christians interprete that it means he was born blind so that jesus may then come and heal him, what a cheap and unjust way for God to manifest his grace, others dont even understand what jesus meant. we reap what we sow (just as christ taught), when someone is born blind it than follows than he has sown the seeds which yield blindness (maybe probably by blinding someone else) i.e; he deserves it! the question becomes when he sowed it and the answer is before his present life. if not we would then be saying that God or life itself is unjust.

i would go on and on, but i wont convince u if you're not willing to give it a thought and investigate the matter yourself.

during my youth service, a small boy (less than 5yrs) told me that he used to drive before, that he has driven a bus like the school bus but he was much bigger then and i asked him how he became small, he said he doesn't know that he just remembers driving and he doesn't know what happened afterwards.

for someone who doesn't know about reincarnation, useless child talk! for me, i could relate with it.