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Mkenya2019:
One random rank one random year- small country shenanigans.

your terrible unis won't get there
Irrelevant country

vaxx:
You are an idiot , Uni of Ghana was sitting at 7 position in some years back and many other notable institution have been ranking UG and other Ghanaian institution higher.

you're wasting your time
He should read how the research done at UCC influence global development

Mkenya2019:
I think you're a mad man who invent facts on the way desperately trying to get ahead of online arguments.

lunatic at it again

These are all well documented things easily verified.

When you lose an arguments you start acting like a KG kid with no boundaries

If you want I can show you evidence of it... I thought these were public knowledge that should be easy for you to find

Mkenya2019:
Kenya use to do 7,000 kids per annum in 2002 - that 20yrs ago - but we have built 87 universities - and we only send to IVY league.


Number of Kenyan students in the US declines sharply over a decade
Trump administration said to have declined to approve visa applications.
In Summary
• From an all-time high of about 7,000 Kenyan students in 2002, the number now stood at 3,710 students in 2020.

• Nigeria tops in the African continent with a total of 13,762 students enrolled in US colleges and universities.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-07-16-number-of-kenyan-students-in-the-us-declines-sharply-over-a-decade/

Now madcow - please show a single evidence that you have send 1,150 ivy league kids in the USA. China and India would kill for such numbers.

As usual, dishonesty in argument.

Kenyans are just not rich enough to send their kids to prestigious unis to pursue top level programs and participate in global R & D.

Ghana comes third on the continent with the most students offered offered entry into the US to pursue their education.

The fact that Kenyan kids to have the brains to hack it doesn't mean everyone doesn't.
China and India have far more than that

Mkenya2019:
You're still lying. Pre-med in US can only happen after she get a bachelors. All she has done is pre-foundation - communication 101 - to improve her Ghana horrible writting skills - before she begin her bachelors. If she want to do medicine - she will start with degree in biology or chemistry.

yet she gained admission for it just like all the other student at 15,16 and 17 years old kids who gain admission to it without a degree.

You seem to think certain things are cast in stone

Obaaderemi2:
Kenyans study stuff like sociology and African dance abroad.

The most useless thing to pay money to go and study, worse of all, going to university for just sports.

Obaaderemi2:

Kenyans are not good at science subjects.

definitely not

rvp2018:
https://www.kensap.org/harvard-college

KenSAP helps high-achieving, low-income Kenyan high school graduates gain admission to the most selective colleges and universities in North America, all with full financial aid. Since its founding in 2004, the organization has placed 259 students at the institutions listed below.

259 ADMISSIONS
Harvard (25), Yale (16), Princeton (13), U. Penn (13), Brown (11), Middlebury (11), Amherst (9), Cornell (9), Dartmouth (, Williams (, Bowdoin (6), Tufts (6), Wesleyan (6), Lehigh (6), MIT (6), Smith (6), Stanford (6), Colby (5), Hamilton (5), Northwestern (5), Brandeis (4), Duke (4), Bates (4), Davidson (4), Bryn Mawr (3), Columbia (3), U. Toronto (3), Barnard (2), Haverford (2), Kenyon (2), Mt. Holyoke (2), Pomona (2), St. Lawrence (2), Swarthmore (2), Vassar (2), Carleton (1), Connecticut Col. (1), Gettysburg (1), Johns Hopkins (1), Macalester (1), McGill (1), Michigan State (1), NYU (1), Oberlin (1), Rhodes (1), Rice (1), U. Chicago (1), U. Rochester (1), U. Wisconsin (1), Vanderbilt (1), Wellesley (1), Wooster (1)

so this is all you could send in the last 18years?
That will be like a single year admission from Ghana.

I'm more interested in the courses they studied
If it was to go and do Athletic, dance and music like all these Kenyans you listed, like Ghana will not waste time and money on those schools

The US embassy issued 7,000 student visas to Ghanaians in 2022 compare to 4916 in 2021.. 1,150 were for ivy league schools in 2022

rvp2018:
Definitely if they are airheads from Ghana.

well the are not but they drop out of it because it is too rigorous
No wonder Kenyans steer far away from it for concert programs

rvp2018:
That makes her achievement even more remarkable

half of pre med school drop the class before even the exams starts.
It takes good grounding

rvp2018:
So all the ululations were because of she aced foundation courses

Cry

She aced it because she had done all those things in high school here. Half of pre med school drop this class before the exams

rvp2018:
Kenya has 87 universities. Again Nigeria the main zoo represent the small zoo in west africa. Stop struggling to compete with big countries.

Kenya public sector education.

Ruto said that there are 32,594 primary schools, 10,482 secondary schools, 12 national polytechnics, 259 technical and vocational training institutions and 87 universities which shows progress in improving academic standards in the country.

I know Kenyan high school graduates will fail this first exam of first year high school in Ghana, including you. They have to answer 5 or 6 of these multi loaded questions in 2 hours.

Next time don't compare your zoo to any country in education


There are 70,000 Basic schools in Ghana
59% are govt owned.

900 secondary schools

rvp2018:
You and fellow madman keep ranting on and on. What sold you out is the allegation s/he was doing medicine in harvard as undergrad.

If he or she is in harvard - cant be studying anything pre-med or med before s/he get a first degree

https://extension.harvard.edu/academics/programs/premedical-program/#content-1
You are eligible to apply if you meet the following criteria:

Have completed a bachelor’s degree from an accredited institution.
Are a US citizen or permanent resident.
Have English language proficiency.

cry

vaxx:
I am just suprised he is not willing to accept he is not getting it .

He's confuse by how confusing the US system can be. Pre - med is the fastest way to entering med program. Do your O-chem 1 and 2 and Physics to strengthen your application.
Get your MCAT and a good application and get into Harvard medical school

A few episodes of Grey's Anatomy could have helped him

vaxx:
You are indeed daft and a stubborn lover of ignorance who never wish you subject his already faulty knowledge with the right one . Pre medic program aren't a postgraduate courses or a degree qualifications , it is a foundational training that that trains and equip you with medicinal degree . You aren't getting any award for studying premedic program , you are only getting equiped for the medicine degree
training ahead . You will be learning various combine subject of what comprises medicine at its foundation.

Biological sciences or chemistry degree as a whole is a post first degree qualifications not a premedic program you idiot .

cossano:
Did Ghana exist in 1800?!!

Yes

rvp2018:
The airlift education scholarship that changed the world.

This is where the story of America's first black president, Barack Obama, begins.

The Kenyan trade unionist turned politician Tom Mboya, who studied at Ruskin College, Oxford, wanted members of his country's government to be adequately prepared for a post-colonial Kenya.

He recognised quite early on that there were not enough professional Africans to run an efficient civil service.

To make up the shortfall, he set up a scholarship fund that would take young bright Africans to the US and Canada.

The idea was for them to acquire the necessary skills and come back to help build a new country when the white civil servants packed up and returned to Europe.

One of those students was one Barack Obama from Kogelo, near the port city of Kisumu on the shores of Lake Victoria.

How did Obama change the world ? The man responsible for the deaths happening in Ukraine and the one responsible for the destruction of Libya and Syria.

First off, he's not Kenyan. That's how come he became US president.
Which part of his education did he have in Kenya again?

rvp2018:
Obama
Nobel Laurate Martha Wangari - 1st African woman to win a Nobel

Notable recipients include Kenya's Wangari Maathai, the first African female and first environmentalist to win the Nobel Prize; Mahmoud Mamdani, a prominent Ugandan academic listed in the top 100 list of public intellectuals by Prospect Magazine; and George Saitoti, a former vice president of Kenya. Other notable recipients include[3][4][5][6][7]

Academia and education
Prof. Leah Marangu (Former Vice Chancellor of African Nazarene University)
Prof. Mahmoud Mamdani (Prominent Ugandan author and academic. Director of Makerere Institute of Social Research)
Prof. Miriam Were (Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Nathan K. Saziru (Former Professor, Ohio State University. Alumnus of Stanford University, University of Oxford)
Diplomatic service
Pamela Odede Mboya (Former Kenyan representative to UN Habitat)
Hon. Simon Thuo Kairo (First Kenyan ambassador to China)
Prof. Washington Aggrey Okumu (Kenyan diplomat, economist and politician)
Environmentalism and conservationism
Hon. Wangari Maathai (First African female and first environmentalist Nobel Prize winner)
Journalism, writing and media
Maina wa Kinyatti (Kenyan Author and Mau Mau historian. Winner of the PEN freedom to write award)
Politics, trade unionism and civil rights
Hon. Arthur Magugu (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Prof. George Saitoti (Mathematician. Former Vice President of Kenya)
Hon. Ochola Ogaye Mak'Anyengo (Kenyan trade unionist and politician)
Hon. Wilson Ndolo Ayah (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Dr. Zachary Onyonka (Kenyan politician and former cabinet minister)
Science, technology and medicine
Prof. Miriam Were (Prominent A.I.D.S. researcher. Chancellor, Moi University. Winner of the Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize)
Dr. Ng'endo Mwangi (First Kenyan female physician. First black African student at Smith College in Massachusetts and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York)
Prof Reuben Olembo (Kenyan scientist and environmentalist. Former Deputy Director of UNEP)

so basically none achievers
No wonder

rvp2018:
There is no medicine she is studying assumging she in harvard.

you're mad

Obaaderemi2:
I think he posted his kid's essay the other time.

;Dhes always desperate

rvp2018:
Is she is harvard or not.
Is she studying medicine or not.
Is she studying pre-med or not.
Is she studying biology or chemistry.

Look here slowpoke - in US pre-med is only done after you have Bsc in Biology or Chemistry.

Bottomline - if she in harvard - she is studying for biology or chemistry or some science.

Then optionally she can go for pre-med or just post-grad medicine degree.

read the comment you're replying to and you'll understand and not ask those questions

rvp2018:
In SSA we talk to you big Zoo - Nigeria - Kenya control the eastern sphere - and South Africa the south. We are taking over central africa - so soon we control both east and central.

running away with his tail in-between his legs

So nothing came out of Kenya Ivy league educationist ?

rvp2018:
The feeling is absolutely mutual - we are chasing big boys - not Ghana. What is Ghana. That is Uganda level.

Unless the big boys you're referring to are Somalis and Ugandans cause the only big boys I know in this world are the Americans, Russians, Germans, Chinese and co and those are the ones Ghanaians roll with head to head and dominate


I want to see a number of Kenyans in these fields and then we can talk
Dwarfy Kenyans with undeveloped brains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2qOasXyQs

rvp2018:
Maybe compared to Burkina Faso.

possibly because it will even be an insult to Ghana to compare Kenya to her.
What did the Kenyans go to study at those ivy league schools?

Is there a Kenyan Astrophysicist I don't know off?
What have they produced or done for the world?

rvp2018:
Monkey do. Monkey say. Mad cow.
Not even US of A had that many IVY league graduates for 70yrs.

Tell your father to hire you an online tutor.

Go and see the main people filling up their ivy league schools.
What ever you can possibly think of, there will be more Ghanaians in it than Kenyans and the Ghanaians will excel more than Kenyans because that is who Ghana is.
Education is a must here and the quality is better to compare with the best in the world

rvp2018:
We are not talking about one random guy,
We are talking 3,000 kids in 1950s and 1960 send direct to IVY league at intervention of US president JF Kenndey.

Before you sent your first 3,000 which only few ended up at ivy league schools, Ghana had already used 70 years to send more than 40,000 to it

Obaaderemi2:
How can that happen in a society where teachers are stoned and kids are excused for being lazy?

it will take a change of mindset from parents like the fool rvp who is happy to beat his kid teacher for his own failure.

I want to see Kenyans excel in these fields
Astrophysics
Astronautics
Aerodynamics
Plasmas and gas dynamics (circuit breaking)
Hyper velocity ( hypersonic)
Fiber optics and laser Arrays and etc which I'm about to add


Ghanaians are just changing the world
Whether you turn East or West.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2qOasXyQs

vaxx:
Another remarkable portfolio . To study medicine alone self in USA, UK, Germany as an African applicant is the most difficult process I have ever seen , it is like trying to escape an elephant thru a needle . Medicine is a special course, they hardly give it out to africa student .not even minding the millions of dollars involved .

Only russia and some other eastern europe accept anything .

yeah... Its a lot difficult

rvp2018:
Obama father did Phd in harvard in 1960 and got Obama as co-curriculum activity.
Kenyans went to IVY league in 1950s and 1960s in the famous Tom Mboya and JF Kennedy airlift program.
And they laid a solid foundation of education.

Ghanaians did it in the late 1800 into the early 1920s and it has become a thing.

I know one Ghanaian with 5 out of his 6 or 7 kids at ivy league.

It's nothing to brag about, what they do when they come out is what is important

Obaaderemi2:
Kenyan education is indeed a joke.

rvp2018:
Another like the Nigeria Philip Emeagwali who invented internet

I want to see Kenyans master the science, Mathematics and engineering

That's the only way you progress in this life ... You can't memories your way out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ti10gJ4WI