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AfriqueDuZuid:
It was around that number

But countrywide is 47%

okay....

So only 7 million Kenyans live in properly developed urban centers

AfriqueDuZuid:
Hope one day they will maximize their outputs by exporting 90% finished and packaged tea.

It's their most important commodity exported, or send it to its neighbors for processing and packaging that will still be OK.

Same goes for many African countries

sure

Shma:
So you're a Ghanian? Or you just want to massage their ego?

Anyway, rest. There is no debate here.

Next time.

Just accept facts kiddo ....

You have 14 million urban dwellers and almost 50% of them are slum dwellers.

That leaves just 7 million people in properly developed areas ....
This even reflect why your middle class is just 5 million people as well

AfriqueDuZuid:
What's negative in what I wrote?

That also happens in Asia, carribean, South America not exclusive to Africa.

Even fellow Ghanaian know what I wrote is true, he's not complaining. A wholistic development is needed across the country to rid off slums, even if you house those in slums others will continue to come.

Building cities and developing other regions in the country will definitely alleviate the migration to a single place.

Exactly so

AfriqueDuZuid:
If 60% of a city's population lives in slums to me it points out lack of town planning development

Because that means a country did not build enough for people to flock in 1 city

Yes there may be other factors like booming population rate but planning is top

You will see him argue this till dark.


What is Nairobi slum % again?

Last time I checked, it was almost 60%

theenchanter:
all these long hogwash without any meaningful point.

Urbanization rate in this context is a country-to-country affair and not ur dumb assertion. Even ur idiotic self started with India as an example but in ur quest to score a non-existent point, u're now dabbling into city by city affair. idiot.

What u don't know is that, urbanization rate only distinguish urban and rural areas, not slums as u're trying to make it, idiot.

But I'll still give u another chance if ur fluidic brain will come up with better submission, idiot.

Shma:
"Clickbait!" Where did you receive your education?

Do you know what auto correct is on a phone?

Dumb kid

AfriqueDuZuid:
Tanzania has improved its manufacturing and food production capacity, they used to get most things in SA 20 years back but they have improved their own.

Most will be angry by me saying this but it's the truth

That's a country that knows the importance of growing what it population needs to survive instead of wasting it fertile lands growing tea to feed Europe while it spend more money importing food than it gets from exporting tea.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Mining, manufacturing and other industries take up more electricity.

Kenya is mostly an agricultural country, Tea and flowers they do not farm farm which is needed in their country.

They build houses on their most fertile lands, Kenya has plenty of rivers and water. They should consider building a city in the middle of the country away from fertile lands.

And that's my 2 cents

Thanks You've also observed same...

They've developed their most fertile lands for housing and then cry that they are 70% arid ....
Egypt wasn't this stupid

NTSA:

This looks like one of the charts your politicians use to deceive you guys

For instance, your wind energy only contribute 2% to your national grid

AfriqueDuZuid:
Anyway size of the country, and population will determine how much roads are needed

I mean 2m population with 7000 km road network is enough for them right.

Also industrialization is what drives electricity usage, if you check countries with more electricity consumption are those that are more industrialized. Household don't take much of the electricity.

With electricity consumption per capita is also very important

correct on all point .... Countries with proper manufacturing consumes massive electricity to show the power of their economic activity... If you look at Shanghai lockdown, their electricity consumption has dropped massively because of a slowdown in economic activity. Once they start opening up, it will shoot right back up.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Farmlands, plantations!

"Africa's richest village!"

Titles being put on YouTube for likes and views

I swear

All the click bit can be nauseating

NTSA:
Largest population corhot in Kenya is between 10 to 14 yr old.This means that in the next 10 yrs they will be joining the productive workforce Kenya is on the verge of an economic takeoff if not revolution.

if you can't provide the electricity required, that take off will be a mirage.

The time to start is now cause it takes 3 years to build any decent power station

NTSA:
Kenya's access to electricity stands at 71percent. Highest in East Africa if not Africa

Kenya access to electricity stands at 50%, according to your own census..

You can't even connect people that live just 15km away from the grid because you country is broke.

Electricity - about 15% of the national population.
Use of electricity in urban areas as the source of lighting - 42%; although kerosene lamps still remain the main source of lighting for 55% of households.
Kerosene for lighting in rural households - 87%

In this modern age, yet 58% of Kenya urban population have to rely on Kerosene lamps for lighting their homes..
Really Really?

Why will you guys be so backward like this?

NTSA:
Thermal and geothermal is where you lost me .. anyway good for you.

in the energy field, we refer to thermal units as plants Which burn fuel to produce heat whether internally or externally.

Geothermal is a different classification

Are you clear now?

NTSA:
Enough for today.

I know your country energy situation like the back of my hand, so if you want to engage... Engage in facts

NTSA:
What you posted is a tabulation of all roads constructed be it graded roads etc..

naa.... It's a tabulation on roads paved with asphalt or bitumen in 5 years. There are 11,000 more at various stages of completion


What's your next excuse

NTSA:
It seems you are the noise maker here...Your friend Poukasi can attest.

Pokuasi will refuse to even live in your back water for even 3 months....

Cause he knows you guys just like to make noise over tiny things

Infact he has refuse your country several times

NTSA:
2022 reports from kengen state otherwise.. talking of self sustaining we long transitioned from Hydro Energy to geothermal energy.We are now among the biggest geothermal energy producers . Basically we can just sink more wells corresponding with our energy demands.No need for expensive Dams as long as the the molten earth crust exist.

burden of proof on you...

I won't describe 300mw geothermal as big because that is less than the output of a small gas combined cycle turbine.


You have 57% hydro and 32% thermal, the rest is geothermal..

You can't just sink more holes

gallivant:
Post Accra city, enough tantrums for today.

see the noise maker ... Accra is too much for you...

Just focus on developing your back water, there's nothing that you can compare Kenya to Ghana, in. We are far ahead of you in all things

NTSA:
Not unless you can't read in between the lines.

there's nothing in between the line but mere fact on the ground verifiable

NTSA:
Kenya's energy demands are self-sufficient and self sustaining with an installed capacity of 2984 megawatts and a pick demand of not more than 2051 megawatts.... blackouts are so rare that when it happens it's National News and senior people at the electric company get charged for economic sabotage.

Kenya installed capacity is 2038mw and peak demand is 1800mw ... There's nothing self sufficient about energy consumption in a presumably growing economy. Unless your economy is not growing, you energy consumption must go up...

As we speak, your country is currently shedding load because 1800mw is not enough for 56 million people, not even enough for everyone to put on a 50kw light bulb

Your country is not just a serious one..

In Ghana, electricity demand increases by 400mW yearly... That is what serious economic growth looks like

NTSA:
Keyword is paved road...

Good

So in 5 years, we added half your country 50 years of building paved roads... You see how useless your country is?


In the next 2 to 3 years time, there will be an additional 11,000km to bring our total to 55,000km

NTSA:
The burden of proof on the 45000 km of paved roads remain on your side.

before this, there was already 35,000km

NTSA:
tantrums

keep making excuses for your country darkness

NTSA:
Can you also verify on 45,000paved roads ...coz It is estimated that Ghana has about 67,291 km of road network today. Of this, 12,785 km are trunk roads, 42,394 km are feeder roads and 12,112 km are urban roads. 83% of trunk roads, 36% of urban roads and 72% of feeder roads are considered being in either good or fair condition.

Ghana has 94,200Km of classified roads and an additional 20,000km of unclassified roads.

NTSA:
Fair enough consider 1000s if not millions of Acs running 24hrs a day .. plus other heavy industries

Well your country run millions of ACs daily, far outstripping Ghana.
Fortunately AC is not the reason why Ghana has a higher consumption than you guys... It's just the fact that Ghana remain highly developed than your country

NTSA:
Ghana has an installed capacity of 5300 megawatt and a peak demand of 2803 meggwats which is basically a loss in all aspects.

Ghana peak demand for 2019 was 2804MW, 3,200mw in 2020 and in 2021, it increased by 400+mw to 3600mw and now at 4,000mw

NTSA:
Link?

Ghana energy commission can help you

NTSA:
Kenyan just use electricity for lighting at night .A few 50 watt bulbs per household while Ghana uses electricity to run several 1000 watts AC both day and night.

care to explain why Kenya import more ACs than Ghana

NTSA:
2021 report Ghana's system peak demand grew at a 4.6% annual rate from 1,161 MW to 2,804 MW.

Ghana's peak is now 4,000MW