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Funny how some people here are trying to flex w/their newly built unranked hospitals

Top 100 hospitals in Africa, according to webometrics

17 African countries made it to the top 100 cream of the list, what a pity only 1 hospital featured in the top 1000 in the world ranks.

These 3 countries make up 63% of the list.
South Africa 30
Egypt 22
Kenya 11

Honorable mentions.
Uganda 7
Morocco 6
Nigeria 5
Tanzania 5

A more fruitful endeavor would be to compare overall health systems which usually favors well managed low populated countries esp when considering not so well industrialized developed countries.

WHO healthcare systems rankings

Ghana's overall health system is doing relatively good in comparison due to its efficiency ranking & maybe per capita spending but Kenya is right up there.

135 Ghana
140 Kenya
149 Uganda
156 Tanzania
172 Rwanda
175 South Africa
179 Somalia
187 Nigeria

Just30:
you dont know shit

you are busy running your mouth as usual
typical Kenyan villager traits.


go and learn more about
Nubians and Amazighs


i can understand your confusion because North Africa has changed hands so many times
But i dont expect you to be stupid .



Go and Look for these book and read
You will become Knowledgeable

Thanks for your concern, but if those books are the ones that have helped you this much to be dmwit I'll gladly pass. Meanwhile try countering my replies w/actual data.

Just30:
guy you are dumb

the Amazigh uprising in Algeria and Morocco is called the Black uprising for a reason



you have stilled not answered my question to you above

are Tuaregs Caucasian ?

OH wow now provide facts & data on the above then provide the scholars that decided those people were not caucasoid.

Just30:
Even their original beliefs are African

that is what i sort to establish for your dumb ass

illiterate of the highest order

Which caucasian can withstand the torture of the desert ?

You're confusing skin color to race Chinese & Koreans are just as pale as the rest within their region and African negros w/albinism are just as pale as one can get But guess what, they're not within the same race as the Nordic or Aryans. I'm honestly fed up of repeating the same shit over & over.

Just30:
no need for me to know who im replying

so far, i just know you are dumb stupid and an illiterate

who knows nothing.

Simple question,
Are Oromo's caucasian ?
Are Tuareg Caucasian ?
are Hausa people Caucasian ?
are Amazigh's caucasian?
are Nubians Caucasian?

The last four are the Original natives of north Africa

You're helpless, still asking questions to which answers were provided to.

Tuareg, hausa, Oromos, amazigh... Are all ethnolinguistic groups, Caucasian is a furking race are you being paid to be this stupid?

Just30:
This is a map of the region in 800AD

The Berber and Nubian REGION have no boundaries


There was no Morocco but Pre historic group of people

Really this is your evidence?

The Abbasid Caliphate was the third of the Islamic caliphates to succeed the Islamic prophet Muhammad. They ruled as caliphs for most of the caliphate from their capital in Baghdad in modern-day Iraq, after having overthrown the Umayyad Caliphate in the Abbasid Revolution of 750 CE so this proves Moroccan Berbers are Nubians?

Just30:
useless human from the Village Kenya


Go and call a berber man in Morocco Caucasian or the Tuaregs in Mali and Burkina Faso Caucasian

and see slaps

Of course after all my replies that's the best you can offer back at me. hopefully you comprehended something but I wouldn't blame you if you don't... I've never been much of a teacher especially to ret@rds.

Just30:
You are stupid
Arabic is the language

Arabs are a group of people whom all through out history have sort to establish a bloody Caliphate


You are funny
This is not about what the people identify as
All written have never ever referred to the Berbers of North Africa as Caucasians
They mostly refer to them as Africans


your illiteracy is beyond the bounds of this earth.

OH so according to your thought process being referred as African means one is no longer caucasoid? Wow, didn't know Elon musk along with all the Dutch & boers in South Africa are now negro good to know bro.

Just30:
On which Earth are these Caucasians


he authors of the book The Berbers stated that the cult of the dead was one of the distinguishing characteristics of the Berbers in antiquity.[4] Pomponius Mela reported that the Augilae (Modern Awjila in Libya) considered the spirits of their ancestors to be gods. They swore by them and consulted them. After making requests, they slept in their tombs to await responses in dreams.[5]

Herodotus (484 BC–ca.425 BC) noted the same practice among the Nasamones, who inhabited the deserts around Siwa and Augila. He wrote:

[..]They swear by the men among themselves who are reported to have been the most righteous and brave, by these, I say, laying hands upon their tombs; and they divine by visiting the sepulchral mounds of their ancestors and lying down to sleep upon them after having prayed; and whatsoever thing the man sees in his dream, this he accepts.[6]

The Berbers worshiped their kings, too.[7] The tombs of the Numidian kings are among the most notable monuments left by the Classical Berbers.

The veneration (not worship) of saints which exists among the modern Berbers in the form of Maraboutism—which is widespread in northwest Africa—may or may not contain traces of prior beliefs or customs concerning the dead.


Augustine of Hippo mentioned that the polytheistic Africans worshipped the rocks.[10] Apuleius stated as well that rocks were worshipped in the second century.[10] The megalithic culture may have been part of a cult of the dead or of star-worship.[10]

The monument of Msoura is the best-known megalithic monument in northwest Africa. It is composed of a circle of megaliths surrounding a tumulus. The highest megalith is longer than 5 meters. According to legend, it is the sepulchre of the mythical Berber king Antaeus.[11] Another megalithic monument was discovered in 1926 to the south of Casablanca. The monument was engraved with funerary inscriptions in the Berber script known as Tifinagh.[10]

Herodotus mentioned that the ancient Berbers worshipped the moon and sun and sacrificed to them. He reported:

They begin with the ear of the victim, which they cut off and throw over their house: this done, they kill the animal by twisting the neck. They sacrifice to the Sun and Moon, but not to any other god. This worship is common to all the Libyans.[12]

Tullius Cicero (105-43 BC) also reported the same cult in On the Republic (Scipio's Dream):

When I (Scipio) was introduced to him, the old man (Massinissa, king of Massyle) embraced me, shed tears, and then, looking up to heaven, exclaimed I thank thee, O supreme Sun, and you also, you other celestial beings, that before I departed from this life I behold in my kingdom, and in my palace, Publius Cornelius Scipio ....[13]

There were some Latin inscriptions found in Northwest Africa dedicated to the sun-god. An example is the inscription found in Souk Ahras (the birthplace of Augustine; Thagaste in Algeria) written "Solo Deo Invicto".[14] Samuel the Confessor appears to have suffered from the sun-worshiping Berbers who tried unsuccessfully to force him to worship the sun.

The Berber pantheon also contained multiple gods, known as the Dii Mauri, represented on reliefs and also the subject of dedications.[15] During the Roman period, Saturn was the focus of an important cult, subsuming that of Baal Hammon, a deity of Punic origin.

Bringing in more bs isn't gonna help you... Accept your failure & be better than you were yesterday. Also how does this clear up Moroccan Berbers from being caucasoid?

Just30:
Moroccans aint Caucasians
but Nubians
despite the fact that a lot of Europeans escaped wars to Morocco

am I seeing this right this nibba just rn I can't

Just30:
Nubians, Berbers and by extentionTuaregs who are also berbers have common Heritage and existed together

correct yourself
I never said Moroccans were Nubians

Nubians and berbers had a none confrontation and saw themselves as one
They fought common enemies and today they are doing same

Both in Algeria, Morocco, Egypt and all others

Just30:
Im not even referring to the Moors

now that you have been proven wrong again

you are coming around

Try harder

The Afrosiatics are a large group of ethnicities
But the ones you find in Morocco and Algeria as well as Burkina Faso, Mali and by Extention the Hausa across west Africa are not Caucasian or Arabs.


Next time when i am teaching you History, dont argue

You can find ethnic Arabs in all those places also who is calling Berbers, Arabs? Do you even know who you are replying to?
Spend your time understanding what you read. Try this while you are at it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Just30:
you are an illiterate and stupid at the same time
Numbia territory had no defined boundary just like the Berbers

Nubia is a Nile valley civilization, you are just so pathetic...

Can you even locate a map? If you can, find out where Morocco is & where the Nile is Mr no defined boundary.

Just30:
I told you that
pages ago

it is strange that you are now coming to this

How am I coming to this? You can't even read, pathetic.

Just30:
you are dumb

Go to Morocco or Algeria and refer to a berber man as Caucasian or Arab and see the slap you will receive

Arab is a language & a culture it's just like calling East African countries, swahili states it has nothing to do w/whatever you're playing at and I don't need to go to the streets to find out how Arab North Africa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world

Again if it were left to what people identify as then race has no meaning, Its not about what they accept to be called it's just is they're caucacians end of story. Just like you're negroid end of story.

Just30:
The Barghawatas (also Barghwata or Berghouata) were a group of Berber tribes on the Atlantic coast of Morocco, belonging to the Masmuda confederacy. After allying with the Sufri Kharijite rebellion in Morocco against the Umayyad Caliphate, they established an independent state (ad 744-1058) in the area of Tamesna on the Atlantic coast between Safi and Salé under the leadership of Tarif al-Matghari.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barghawata

Again, you will never know African history more than i do

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/the-forgotten-minorities-egypt-s-nubians-and-amazigh-in-the-amended-constitution/
While she says that defining Egypt as an ‘Arab’ state in the constitution is a mistake, as Egypt blends ethnic and cultural groups, including Arabs, Pharaohs, Greeks, Turks, Amazigh, and Nubians, she does not see this changing any time soon. Referring to Egypt as the ‘Egyptian Republic,’ she explains would be more representative of its population, rather than its current name the ‘Arab Republic of Egypt.’ She says the name is a relic of the late president, Gamal Abdel Nasser’s hyper-nationalistic era. Nasser named the nation, the United Arab Republic, while Sadat changed it to the ‘Arab Republic of Egypt,’ “which clearly excludes many ethnic groups who lived and are living in Egypt,” she adds.

And how exactly does this mean moroccans are Nubians & not Caucasians or Egyptians for that matter?

Just30:
dumb Kenyan

watch this video on who the Moroccans are
and stop looking stupid each time you open your mouth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swh8898LBps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39oM3MJleY

Berbers even used to called themselves Nubians

OH wow now we can ignore facts since they used to call themselves Nubians it's not like we haven't seen other groups of people claim they were jews, Egyptians or kangs & shit.

I can try & understand you if you are confusing The moors with Nubians but still I seriously can't... I lost my f*cks bruh so don't expect one. Being Berber doesn't mean one can't be caucasoid stop all this bs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors

Just30:
Today Egypt is more caucasian than it history

Morocco is not like that
Moroccans are Berbers just like their Tuareg brothers
Even at that, there is a greater Nubia population in Egypt.

so the heritage is not lost.

The Arabs did not rule over empty fields in Morocco but a greater population of Berber people

It's amazing how one statement can be so long & useless at the same time... Also who is forcing you to strain your last two braincells to write that bs essay.
FYI
Touareg are Berbers you dimwi@ and Berbers, or Amazighs are an ethnic group of several nations mostly indigenous to North Africa and some northern parts of West Africa. They belong to the Afroasiatic language family.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers

Just30:
stop being stupid by posting the current dispensation map


this is not what is was
1500 years or so back

You're too stupid to be helped bruh. Nubians have always been in Eastern Africa since before "1500 years or so back" so what are you trying to get at?

Just30:
so now youve gone full circle to come and claim moroccans are caucacians

wow you kenyans are really stupid with some backward education

aND WHO EVEN TOLD YOU bERBER IS A LANGUAGE ?

I can deal w/naive people but not ret@rds.

The Caucasian race is a grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon, which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Austine1212:
SA is a mix pot of everything from Portuguese, french, russian, arabic to Hispanic descent.

Where i stay there are few peeps from other countries and they also differ in behavior

Namibians/botswana are very humble
Zambians/malawi/ are friendly also some Zimbabweans
Mozambicans are violant, most engage in evil crimes
Ethiopians/Somali also friendly
Nigerians are arrogant some are friendly some engage in illegal things when in SA
Malians are funny
Egyptians like to mocks us on soccer

Thats only my observation whilewhile interacting with people from african countries

Take no offence

The genetic input in Zuid.A even before colonization was marvelous but rn it's just insane.

Just30:


your theory is laughable
i encourage you to read wide

and next time dont post a stupid map to show your ignorant believe.

What? You're accusing someone of ignorance yet you've been doing nothing here except feed us w/your endless bs. Instead of encouraging others I suggest you stop being hypocritical & spend your time doing some of that yourself.

Austine1212:
This is interesting

I also found out that some people we call coloreds in SA were slaves brought from Malaysia and indonesia. Hence Capetown was also known as capeMalay.

While Indians were brought to work in the sugar cane plantations.

True and the Asians were also comprising of Indians. Genetic study indicates that Cape Coloureds have an ancestry consisting of the following ethnic groups

Khoisan: (32–43%)
Bantu-speaking Africans: (20–36%)
Ethnic groups in Europe: (21–28%)
Asian peoples: (9–11%)

Just30:
you are the real stupid here

Moroccan are never Arabs berbers

they are Berbers of the Afroasiatic kinds


Berbers make up Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Morocco
and etc.

I guess you also stupidly think Egyptians and the pharaohs are all Caucasians and likewise Israelites

Not all were Caucasians since ancient Egypt was divided into two, upper & lower Egypt, the early dynasties which were in upper Egypt were ruled by nilo-saharans while the later ones were ruled by either Indo-Europeans or afroasiats depending on which people conquered the place.

Despite all the efforts of the natives, Egypt today falls under caucasoid territory

AskiaHarem:
Says the people that where stuck in the stone age till they had to be dragged out in chains with many still remaining. Says the goons who cant open or run a single operation without a foriegner holding your hand every step of the way. Says the people with less wealth.....

Kingdom of Azania & the swahili coast read more about them & stop embarrassing yourself.

Just30:
you are free to learn from Britannia
they are Afrosiatic like the Berbers

Nubians aren't afroasiatic they merely speak Arab due to the infamous conquest.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubians

mtisTheQubit:
at least we are on to something..we upgraded from Caucasians to Nubians..now tell me who are the Nubians..

Nubians are an ethnolinguistic group of Africans indigenous to present-day Sudan and southern Egypt who originate from the early inhabitants of the central Nile valley, believed to be one of the earliest cradles of civilization.They speak Nubian languages, part of the Northern Eastern Sudanic languages. They are a nilo-saharan peoples who ruled ancient kingdom kush.

Just30:
you are funny

Berbers are Afroasiatic and more numbian


Berbers, or Amazighs (Berber languages: ⵉⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖⵏ, ⵎⵣⵗⵏ, romanized: Imaziɣen; singular: Amaziɣ, ⴰⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖ ⵎⵣⵗ), are an ethnic group of several nations mostly indigenous to North Africa and some northern parts of West Africa.

Berbers constitute the populations of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mauritania, northern Mali, northern Niger, and a small part of western Egypt.

Berber nations are distributed over an area stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Siwa Oasis in Egypt and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Niger River in West Africa. Historically, Berber nations spoke the Berber language, which is a branch of the Afroasiatic language family. The Berbers of Algeria were independent of outside control during the period of Ottoman Empire rule in North Africa. They lived primarily in three different Nations: the Kingdom of Ait Abbas, Kingdom of Kuku, and the principality of Aït Jubar.[30] Kingdom of Ait Abbas is a Berber nation of North Africa, controlling Lesser Kabylie and its surroundings from the sixteenth century to the nineteenth century. It is referred to in the Spanish historiography as "reino de Labes";[31][full citation needed] sometimes more commonly referred to by its ruling family, the Mokrani, in Berber At Muqran, in Arabic أولاد مقران (Ouled Moqrane). Its capital was the Kalâa of Ait Abbas, an impregnable citadel in the Biban mountain range.


Flag of the Berber nation the Kingdom of Ait Abbas prior to modern day Algeria until 1872.
There are about 32 million Berbers in North Africa who still speak the Berber language,[3] most living in Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, northern Mali, and northern Niger.[4] Smaller Berber-speaking populations are also found in Mauritania, Burkina Faso and Egypt's Siwa town. The majority of North Africa's population west of Egypt is believed to be Berber in ethnic origin, although due to Arabization and Islamization some ethnic Berbers identify as Arabized Berbers.[32] There are large immigrant Berber communities living in France, Spain, Canada, Belgium, the Netherlands, United Kingdom, Italy and other countries of Europe.[33][34]

Those berber communities are indeed afroasiatic but so are Arabs in fact the only non afroasiatic people are the Nubians who are nilo-saharan. So you're wrong

Just30:
Moroccans aint Caucasians
but Nubians
despite the fact that a lot of Europeans escaped wars to Morocco

You're confusing race with linguistic affiliation & you're failing at both Moroccans are caucasoid hence Caucasian.

Abohboy:
OH yeah you know when you said we should compare one of our cities to kisumu well I chose uyo city in akwa ibom state this city is ultra modern I am not even joking they are building a new airport terminals, the roads and highways are e best in Nigeria, there are three five star hotels under construction one is a Hilton hotel, they are building their first Skyscraper, and they are building one of the largest malls in Africa the Tropicana mall

, they are also going to get constant power supply by next year when their 1000MW gas power plant is finished it will also provide constant power to rivers or cross rivers state whichever they decide.

The Healthcare and education standard is also very high there is free Healthcare and free education for all and they have built one specialist hospital the plan is to have one or two of them in every single LGA(local government area) of akwa ibom

Than there are the stadiums which are being built all around akwa ibom the main uyo stadium is a sight to behold and they are building a smaller one in eket

Speaking of eket there is a massive urban renewal ongoigj which includes creating drainage to stop flooding creating a central waste system, rebuilding the largest market in the state which is sighted there into a more modern looking area and it includes a stadium as well

Uyo city

Area 362 Sq km
Population (2006) 500,000
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyo

Due to apparent lack of data I think the whole state will be a more interesting challenge.

Akwa Ibom state

Area 7000 Sq km
Population 5.450 million
Gdp(ppp) per capita $2,779
HDI 0.564
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akwa_Ibom_State

Admirable efforts w.t/working progress in terms of development unfortunately for Akwa Ibom the HDI margin difference between the two already allows us to know which of the two is better. Still if you want you can proceed to enlighten us on Akwa ibom.

Just30:
hehe
i dont compare Accra to slums

try harder

the whole of Kenya is like a village in Ghana

Respect yourself, don't write such bs while quoting me, I'm not here to engage you in whatever you feel like doing rn... if you have no sane response to my quotes know it'll cost you less to just keep your opinions to yourself.

Justnotyou:
Kisumu city

Area 2000 Sq km
Population 1.155 million (County) 0.750 million
(city) 1.334 million (metro).
Gdp (2018) 3.6 billion dollars
HDI (2017) 0.653 (medium)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisumu

Kisumu city has Africa's fastest growing Gdp

Accra

Area 173 Sq km
Population 1.665 million
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accra

Greater Accra region

Area 3000 sqkm
Population 4.010 million
Gdp (nominal) 2,500 dollars
HDI 0.662 (medium)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Accra_Region

Accra clearly needs to do better than this but first Ghana needs to hire competent staff members on their stats body. It's 2019 things shouldn't be tough while searching online.