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Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:47pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]You keep chasing your tail, making circumlocutory arguments...

Can you commit to a woman you don't love?

If then you say commitment keeps them going, what brought about commitment?

Smh.

Love is not mathematics abeg. [/color]

Definitely, I won't still be committed to a woman who cheats on me.

I'm only committed when I know the sitiation at hand can only be resolved through commitment(cirmcumstances out of our control), I'm not committed to taking crap and shi.t from my spouse.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:42pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]You support cheating. And that is why you talked about cheating discreetly.

Like I said, she has to cheat discreetly as well. You shouldn't feel the pain of her cheating. After all, she is human. [/color]

Well as long as I don't know it won't hurt and that's my point. I will only get hurt if I found that out.

About cheating discreetly, I only justified my point, not necessarily that I'm in support, in fact I have it clearly written in my mission statement that I will never cheat on my wife, also fidelity is part of the principles I have adopted.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:36pm On Feb 15, 2013

[quote author=Mynd_44]You ca be a complete backside and meet the right girl and during the time you fall, you drop all your negatives. That is what falling in love is[/quote]The point is this, I don't fall in love, I chose solely to be in love, that's why I can survive any break up. I can love and unlove, if she messes up I will quit.

Nollywoods and hollywoods have made us to believe love is a feeling and that's why most people put up with shi.t in their relationships. If our feelings control our action it's because we abdicated our responsibility and allowed it to do so.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:32pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]May she also choose to cheat discreetly, and may you two continue fooling yourselves in your fake love. . . [/color]

I only talked about the discreet part because you guyz talked about getting hurt and one can only get hurt when one knows, that's my point.

I dont support cheating both openly and discreetly.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:30pm On Feb 15, 2013

binger: The bold is my exact point. Simple! With time,the going will get tough. Love cannot stand alone. Self-discipline and self-control must be there. And these two do not come by 'default' with loving someone in the real world

I'm surprise most people think love his constant, but we all know it won't always be like that. Commitment(Self discipline) is what will keep them going at some point and at that point if fidelity is based on love, then it's bound to crash.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:28pm On Feb 15, 2013

[quote author=Mynd_44]Okay bro. I will conspire to kill you and go tell the judge that I was born like that and I cannot help it so I am innocent and I am still your friend. you do not fall in love in one day, it is gradual and in that line, your silly human nature gives way for the values that makes up love simple[/quote]I made that point clear in the last part, he can change that nature, a man his responsible for what he becomes(his nature).
By the way he can also change it(all he needs do is to change is paradigm), but usually not really a quick fix, it takes tremendous commitment.

A man who cheats, cheats solely because he wants to, he has no excuse, but my bone of contention is that he will have to be committed to remain faithful and fidelity has absolutely nothing to do with love.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:23pm On Feb 15, 2013

WackyJ1: LOl this actually made me laugh, as if it's that easy to quit smoking, it takes conscious effort keeping in mind the reason for your decision to quit smoking. the love is the reason behind the decision but it is the effort at discipline that actually makes it work

Made maximum sense.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:20pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]My friend, if you don't love a woman, you throw discipline and commitment out the window. You don't give 2 farks about her feelings or whether or not she cries her eyes out.

Your love for her makes you not wanna hurt her. [/color]

She is hurt only when she knows, so if I intend to cheat(which is a choice) I will do it discreetly if I care so much about how she feels.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:17pm On Feb 15, 2013

[quote author=Mynd_44]And while you are cheating, your mind is on what exactly bro? The person you love or the woman you are with? forget core values here cos when you love someone you would not even think pf hurting her and with that, the discipline comes. You cannot claim to love someone and not be disciplines. What will your love be based on? her eyes or nose?

That is just an excuse to justify you cheating bro....Don't bring god into this cos the love for God and that you have to your spouse is different[/quote]I suppose there should be some similarities between loving God and your spouse.

A promiscuous man will cheat on his wife not necessarily because he doesn't love his wife bit because that's his nature and expecting him to change because he loves a woman will only be slightly crazy unless he decides to change that nature himself.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:12pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I think people should just stop using the word love.

It's dismal reading things like this.

You love a woman, you cheat on her, your cheating on her hurts her and makes her cry, she feels worthless cos she can't understand what you found in the other woman that she doesn't have, then you turn around and tell her "baby, don't cry. I love you. Cheating is normal, cos I'm human"

Yeah farking right!

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Killz, I don't support cheating, infact I detest cheaters, and I pray to God to grant me enough grace to remain faithful to my spouse and frankly I know that will take enough discipline and commitment to be able to say no to others.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:07pm On Feb 15, 2013

Popowaa: Love puts u in check,love makes u think about de feelings of de other person,hw can u say u luv sm1 and hurt de person by cheating on him/her.when u love sm1 u dont want to see him/her hurt so if u really love de person deep down den u ve no excuse to cheat.

It's safe to conclude that love doesn't exist.

People get hurt in relationships(not necessarily infidelity). Sp are you saying when one party gets hurt, he/she is not loved by her/his partner.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 11:03pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Loving is unintentional?

No wonder relationships are on a downward spiral. People don't know what love is.

So you love her and your love means you are not committed to her solely?

What discipline do you keep yapping about? How can you even fall in love without being disciplined in the first place? Now you fall in love, a disciplined man, what makes you wanna remain disciplined and faithful to that one woman you chose over all the others, if not for the love you have for her?

Wow Wow Wow.[/color]

Yeah, I agree with you that love is a choice. You choose to love and remain faithful.

But real life situations are dynamic and on the long run, love may not be enough.

I won't cheat on my wife not necessarily because I love her, but because I already have a core value with incorporates fidelity. So even when love fails, I will still remain faithful. Frankly Love isn't a constant in relationship, it varies at certain point's in the relationship.

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Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 10:57pm On Feb 15, 2013

[quote author=Mynd_44]I find it shocking to read that people actually say you can be in love without being disciplined.[/quote]Discipline has everything to do with a center core value and not love at all.
You can love and still cheat, otherwise it's safe to assume most people don't love their wives based on statistics and vice versa.

If you aren't discipline as a man when it comes to the opposite sex, no matter how much you profess to love your wife you will cheat.

Most people love God and yet they sin.

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Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 10:34pm On Feb 15, 2013

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I can tell your age from this comment. "you cheat discreetly" kmt. [/color]

I didn't get the joke.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 10:09pm On Feb 15, 2013*

[quote author=C. whyte]Well as the saying goes, if you love me you won't cheat on me.

If you truly love someone you wouldn't want to hurt him/her and cheating definitely hurts.[/quote]You cheat discreetly if you don't want to hurt you spouse, she doesn't have to know.

Romance › Re: Is Love Enough To Stop You From Cheating On Your Spouse? by k2039: 10:03pm On Feb 15, 2013

Love is not enough, discipline plays a big part in fidelity.

No matter how much a man loves his wife, if he lacks discipline when it comes to the opposite sex, he will always cheat.

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