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Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him are those who obey Him. He also added that those who do as He says(commands) are His friends. john 14 vs 15 - 25 and John 15 vs 14.

That prayer in John 17 is not a commandment, but a prayer from Jesus Christ to the Father on behalf of His own

Mr, you need to understand what you read before you comment.
Or are my replies too long for you to read?
Who said that was a commandment?
Can't you see the bolded in my previous comment?
You've derailed.

But the Ooni of Ife is of an imperial majesty, compared to Oluwo of Iwo.
TAO11, please can you say anything about the two kings?
Not regarding the musician stuff though…

Kayberg:
Go ahead.
If there isn't something the guy heard, do you think he would have thought on converting?
So if he converted by what he had heard, the prayers of our LORD JESUS CHRIST is on him too.

John 17 (KJV)
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¹⁹ And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
²⁰ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

And if he decided to convert, pray for him and strengthen him as a new convert, not to question his new found faith hypocritcally.

And if it be that GOD Himself had drawn him, then will nothing you say either have any impact on his faith.

Kobojunkie:
1. JOHN 17 Is taken from a Prayer Jesus Christ said on behalf of His followers (not merely converts) to the Father. John 17 vs 1

2. Jesus Christ never asked us to pray this prayer for anyone but instead prayed it on our behalf.

Goodness gracious!
Wait, is this the proof you had?
Wait, did you read my comments at all before replying?
Now I am convinced you still need to be force•feed with the Word.
My gosh!
So this is actually who I have been interacting with all along!!!

Come on dude!
You really disapointed me with this comment of yours. It means you just comment without reading, or perhaps you don't understand my English?

Come on! Read this precious comment of mine again, this time, slowly.
Observe the bolded in my previous comment. Observe it very well in case you don't understand the rest.

And to correct you, JESUS CHRIST prayed that prayer for those who shall hear of Him and believe through their words!
And you think that prayer ends and becomes invalid when the apostles died?
If that prayer of our LORD JESUS CHRIST becomes invalid because the apostles died, then what will you say of them of the early churches?

My friend, you need to be taught again of the Word. You know nothing, but claiming to know all.

But wait, do you really understand English?
Because you've derailed.

Kobojunkie:
Again, let the Op speak for himself.

Stale.

Kobojunkie:
Again, let the OP speak for himself.

He doesn't need to explain himself to you of he doesn't want to, OK?
You've got nothing more reasonable to say dude.
So let it go.

Kobojunkie:
You mean I should show you how your quote from John 17 was irrelevant to the conversation?

Go ahead.
If there isn't something the guy heard, do you think he would have thought on converting?
So if he converted by what he had heard, the prayers of our LORD JESUS CHRIST is on him too.

John 17 (KJV)
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¹⁹ And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
²⁰ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

And if he decided to convert, pray for him and strengthen him as a new convert, not to question his new found faith hypocritcally.

And if it be that GOD Himself had drawn him, then will nothing you say either have any impact on his faith.

Kobojunkie:
Again, let the Op speak for himself.

You've got nothing to say anymore.
Let go already, or sit down, humble yourself and learn.

Kobojunkie:
The only thing we are commanded to do in the name of Jesus, is teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to all those who will hear it. If what you prefer is a different kind... one steeped in lies, then what you seek isn't the Gospel or Jesus Christ for that matter.

The Spirit of God can only abide in those who know the Truth and have been set free from slavery to sin by the Truth and this is impossible to anyone who does not even have an understanding of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

Prove any of the quotes to be false.
No one is against preaching the Truth of the Gospel here.
Stop using that as an excuse.
Prove the quotes as false if they're false.

Kobojunkie:
Again, learn to let the OP speak for himself.

You've lost words.
Let it go now.

Kobojunkie:
1. You quoted Jesus Christ already but what you quoted was irrelevant to the conversation. It's not enough to quote Jesus Christ, you have to quote with understanding or you are pretty much quoting out of context.

2. I condemn a person by speaking the Truth? So in your understanding, when Jesus Christ spoke Truth to the Pharisees and even His disciples, He did so in condemnation?

Wow... I am being spiteful by pointing out that a change for Jesus Christ has nothing to do with a change in outward appearances? Yikes!

All the quotes are very much of relevance.
Don't try twisting anything.
Which of the quotes can you debunk or prove to be false?
Go on.
Prove them to be false.

If only you know you are just acting as one of the Pharisees you try to condemn in your words now.

Kobojunkie:
The Spirit of God does not come upon a convert... instead, He comes upon those who are have through continual submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, have been set free from slavery to sin. I.e. they are become perfect/holy vessels, Sons of God, worthy vessels for the Spirit of God to live inside of - John 8 vs 31 - 44. .

The Spirit of God has no need to cause a change in one's outward appearance since the outward appearance matters not to the Spirit of God.

The truth is what we are called to teach all those who are in the world.

Then you can as well tell him to serve GOD the way he wants, and not as GOD stipulated.
When the Spirit of GOD is come upon you, it will change everything about you. You will have that conviction of what you're good to do and what you shouldn't do.

Just as the Bible said:
“Abstain from all appearance of evil.”
— 1 Thessalonians 5:22 (KJV)

Kobojunkie:
Again, let him speak for himself.

Again, he already tried to explain himself as best as he could, when he said GOD knows his intentions.

Don't strain him to prove yourself right or knowledgeable.

You never can tell what he heard or see that makes him come out to tender a public apology.

He doesn't have to tell you everything before you understand him with wisdom.

Kobojunkie:
You don't have to know the "truth all these while" for me to do that I have been commanded to do. There is nothing instant about knowing the Truth - it took the apostles over 3 and half years to learn enough of the Truth from the mouth of the one who is Truth Himself before they could then step back out into the world to teach it to those in the world.

And please stop quoting the teachings of Jesus Christ out of context as a way of justifying foolishness... if you had paid attention, you would have realized that the conversation you pulled from John 17 was a conversation Jesus Christ was having with the Father. He alone sanctifies us when we submit to and obey His Truth.

I am not quoting the teachings of JESUS CHRIST out of context. If you see these quotes as out of context, then you need to be converted yourself.

When you know it took the apostles 3 years to learn, and yet, one of them fell away unto perdition, and another even doubted His resurrection, and yet, you condemn one who came to Him, someone you never even know. And yet you're already being spiteful.

Hypocrite.

That's why JESUS CHRIST said, the harlots and tax collectors get into heaven before you.

Kobojunkie:
The power to strengthen is contained in the Truth itself - the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, which again is what we are commanded to do in Jesus Christ, the Truth Himself

So, if you ever want to encourage anyone, encourage such by speaking the Truth of Jesus Christ, the only Word that counts, and the only way to honor God, not men.

What do you think he heard before he decided to convert?
When the Spirit of GOD is come upon a convert, their eyes become open to discern between what's right and what's wrong. If he changes his appearance, it's because he realized that isn't how he should have been.

So pray for him to fully be planted and well rooted in JESUS CHRIST. Not to start questioning him.
A baby does not grow teeth the day they were born.

Kobojunkie:
I think He can speak for himself... let him do so.

You're trying to twist him.
That's not nice.
If you understand someone or something, don't ever try to make the person fall because you can make them do.

Kobojunkie:
The power to strengthen is contained in the Truth itself - the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, which again is what we are commanded to do in Jesus Christ, the Truth Himself

And how do you expect someone, who do not know the Truth all these while to know everything instantly?

That's why JESUS CHRIST said:

“All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”
— John 6:37 (KJV)

John 17 (KJV)
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¹⁹ And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
²⁰ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

Therefore, do not seek occasion against the young man, neither should you spite him. If he is truly converted, congrats to him.
And funny enough, here you are, seeking occasion against him. Who knows if the Angels of GOD in heaven are currently rejoicing because of him?

Kobojunkie:
Again, I don't need to see his heart to know that what he stares here is not in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ who never taught anyone to judge by appearances those who belong to Him and those who don't.

By job is not to encourage and the lot, it is instead to speak the Truth of God, and no matter what... that is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God we are meant to teach the world.

In speaking the truth, you will encourage.

“But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.”
— Luke 22:32 (KJV)

Our LORD JESUS CHRIST never said when you're converted, ridicule or spite a new convert.

2 Timothy 4 (KJV)
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¹ I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
² Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Kobojunkie:
God? But no matter what your intentions are, if you don't actually do that which God infact command- submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ as recorded for us in the Gospels - they amount to nothing.

By the way, God all but promised you that you would have enemies and tribulations in this life, so what makes you think that you can escape that with God?

He is simply saying he doesn't want to keep/have any grudges against anyone.
That does not keep enemies away, because they will always arise no matter what. But on this wise had GOD said:

“And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.”
— Jeremiah 1:19 (KJV)

Kobojunkie:
Again, appearance means nothing where Jesus Christ, the Kingdom of God, and God are concerned except in the minds of the deceived by such things. Dressed in his former gab, nothing stopped him from living for Jesus Christ even then.

Also in Jesus Christ, it is no longer the case that God alone knows who belong to Him. Jesus Christ taught us that by their fruits we shall know them. No one who truly is of Jesus Christ would come out to decieve the gullible suggesting change in dresscode as evidence of Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ never taught that it is to begjn with.

And again, you cannot see his heart, can you?
Can you tell if he truly repented or not?
If you can't, let his repentance story be in record before GOD.
You should rather encourage and strengthen him as a new convert in CHRIST JESUS, not to speak spitefully about him.
If he didn't truly repent, let GOD, who cannot be deceived, who sees in secret and open, who knows the intent of every man, be the judge.
Your kind of mindset is why our LORD JESUS CHRIST said:

Matthew 21 (KJV)
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²⁸ But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
²⁹ He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
³⁰ And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
³¹ Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
³² For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

Kobojunkie:
The man only changed his appearance but you are already sold oj the claim that it was a result of encounter with Jesus Christ who never said anything about your appearance needing changing for His sake?

The level of ignorance runs pretty deep among those who claim to know God.

You see his appearance, GOD sees his heart.
Either he is truly repented or not, it is open to GOD.
You welcome him to the fold, and let the HOLY SPIRIT do the rest…
OK?

You're never too lost for GOD to save.

And the ROM was 10GB.

Same way he would have been addicted to something better if that was what he had taught him at such a tender age.
The papa no try at all…

Calitoscassius:
it is not just funny, it sounds ridiculous.


What are your qualifications?

OK.

Calitoscassius:
blood tonic for skin diseases?

Sounds funny?
Right?

The silence of the husband should have made Kpokpo feel uncomfortable.
When any man cannot control his tungba, but believes he can push it into every potholes when it comes to married women, even your pastor will quote this for you:

Proverbs 6 (KJV)
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³² But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.
³³ A wound and dishonour shall he get; and his reproach shall not be wiped away.
³⁴ For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.
³⁵ He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

That's not a snake. it's called "Adagba" in Yoruba language.
I think it must be eel in English.
Check its back, if it has some fin-like spikes, and also has a fish-like tail, it's an eel, not a snake.
Mind, the spikes fold back once you raise any of them up.

womenareapess:
now I'm definitely convinced I'm communicating with an ediot who knows nothing about electronic

Have a nice day

I'm waiting for your reply.
Because I see you think you can just apply 220VAC to every transformers you see.
That's how and why most of you damage gadgets on Industrial Machines.
I'm waiting for your reply.

womenareapess:
now I'm definitely convinced I'm communicating with an ediot who knows nothing about electronic

Have a nice day

I should be the one calling you an i-d-iot who has no knowledge of electronics. Yet, I didn't.
Your knowledge of electronics is much too low, that's why all I'm saying keep sounding strange to you.

womenareapess:
oga get sense for once Na!

I made that statement base on what he said that Chinese charger have no transformer and further give details explaination or implications of not having a transformer in those Chinese charger which is illegal to sell across the countries around the world.

Get sense for once na

Aha!
Tell me which Chinese charger have no transformer?
And if it has no transformer, what could have been used in its place?

womenareapess:
Mr man an Smps board is attached with a transformer, unless you don know how a transformer looked like

How on hell will a phone charger step down 250v to 5v without the help of a transformer

You guys show use Google! Knowledge is everywhere.

The picture below is a typical example of an Smps board with a transformer attach to it!


You guys should stop forming ITK and try to update your knowledge.

I pity people who follow that baboon up there who claimed that modern phone charger doesn't have a transformer

Coming from a baboon itself, with little knowledge of a quack, trying to show force.
Take your Multimeter and follow these steps.
That same Iphone charger, plug it to power, check the readings of the input pins of the transformer, it must have 4 pins on the input side, and 2 pins on the output side.
On the side with 4 pins, (input side) 2 of the pins are for DC Source. 1 pin goes directly to either 'positive or negative of the power rectifier', and the other pin must go to the 'collector'(for a Power Transistor) or 'drain/source'(for a MOSFET, base on which line the manufacturer chose to regulate)

Now, take the reading and tell me what you see when you read in AC Range 750VAC/1000VAC, then again, switch your Multimeter to Range 1000VDC, and tell me what you see.

P.D.: Take note to be very much careful. Don't go and kill yourself to blame it on me while you're trying that. If you are not good enough to that level, don't you ever ever try it; the above experiment. I've warned you.

womenareapess:
no no! Modern phone charger do have transformer but just that the transformer is gotten portable way smaller.

Those pictures I showed you is that of modern iPhone charger and that of Samsung. If you look careful the transformer is gotten smaller.

Any electronic that requires to step volt further to 18v or less all do have transformer. For example your laptop charger adaptor has transformer because it requires to break the volt down to 18v.

Further note! All modern phone company or product still use transformer base on regulatory rules to protect there phone products from electrocution. A normal ic board without transformer, once it got spoil the full force of current will pass directly to the phone hence phone explosion (due to those stupid fake Chinese charger) but a normal charger with transformer, once spoiled, there is no way the current will pass further.

Edit your error here at the bolded.
Not everyone think in reverse as you do.
First, you argued that there is a transformer in every charger, now, you still went ahead to say Chinese fake chargers have no transformer.
What exactly are you saying?
Who is the quack that taught you all these?