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Bidam: GOD'S WORD® Translation
Are we abolishing Moses' Teachings by this faith? That's unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting Moses' Teachings.Romans 3:31


Unlike what you guys are advocating here that we should throw away the OT, PAUL IS SAYING THAT IS UNTHINKABLE.Everything in scripture is actually written for our example so we will not stumble,due to ignorance and unbelief. The whole bible(both OT and NT) is our constitution and our manual for life.

I'm sorry i assumed that English is simple. 'll rewrite that again for you in KJV
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
or even in your GWT, He is not saying we should return to the law of moses to try to keep it because that will contradict all he has been saying since the beginin of the chapter. He is saying, by the way of faith, we ESTABLISH the law. that is, faith=law established. many have twisted that verse to be saying this: "SHOULD we then cancel the law becos of faith?". but this is what it says: "DO (not should) we then make void (that is nullify the purpose, essence and aim of) the law through (by the means of) faith? God forbid (or certainly not, as used in NKJV), yea, we establish the law"
That iis, the very essence of the law is fulfilled when a man turns to Christ, for "Christ is the fulfillment of Moses' Teachings so that everyone who has faith may receive God's approval." (Romans 10:4 Gods Word Translatn).
When you believed in Christ, you didn't (not shouldnt) render the law null and void, rather, you uphold, establish, the law.

Bidam: Even you yourself quoted that we should not be lawless,so what is to guide our code and conduct as believers? certainly the bible, if not people would be doing all sort of rubbish all in the name of The Holy Spirit, people have already started advocating for premarital sex, masturbation, gay marriages etc all in the name that it is not found in the NT and is therefore not a sin,some will even be bold to tell you it is the Holy Spirit that instruct them to do such.

Good good, you're getting my point now. Can we live without "the law"? Why not?
The law came in the time of moses after several years and generations have passed. there was no law, yet the people knew the standard for right and wrong. Same way today, we are not under the law, and that does not mean we dont have a manual to look into to discern what is rght or wrong.
The issue in the NT is, its not that there is not a law, but saints are not "under" it. we are not under its yoke anymore.

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Alryt. If i get d point of d threadr wel, he z saying, dia r 2 knds of law: sacrificia n moral. N dat Christ only stopd sacrifices bt nt moral laws. Gud reasoning sir!
Yes, all our Grace models in bible were all morally uprigt; they dont toil wt sin; they wer on fire wt holinez: n ds must b d lifestyl of al dat profes xtians. "they wch av BELIEVD in God myt b carefu 2 maintain GOOD WORKS" (Tit3: so teaches Paul.
Howeva, d line must b drawn: MORAL UPRIGHTNES IS NEVA A CRITERION 4 JUSTFCATN B4 GOD. (Gal3:11, Rom3:20).
U need 2 undrstnd ther ar 2 ways of gainin God's favor: 1. By keepng d law, 2. By faith in Christ. D 4mr z wat u av intelligently xpoundd, wher u must obey evry detail of d law b4 u r justifyd. Dats wat Paul was talkn of wen he sed only d DOERS OF D LAW ar just b4 God, bcoz dia ryteoznez z of d law. Dats wat dat Deut6 u cited z also sayin. 'it sha b OUR RYTEOZNEZ..' Ds knd z wat evry law-keepr vies 4.
For moses describes d Ryteoznez of d LAW dat d man wch does dem sha liv by them (rom10:6).
Bt 2day, we dat beliv must do away wt d ryteoznz wch coms by keepng d law un2 d 2nd knd wch z by faith in Christ. 'and b found in hm NOT HAVNG MYN OWN RYTEOZNEZ WCH Z OF D LAW, bt dat wch z tru d f8 of Christ' said paul (phil3:9)
so, whethr its sacrificia or moral, we ALL MUST nt trust in any gud we av done 2 b aceptd by God coz only f8 pleases God!
No born again shd av problm wt livng morally in as much as it is d fruit of our indwelln Spirit (Gal5:22). Bt sir, there exist no such legalisatn z keep morals. U quoted 4rm John sayng we shd kp God's comandmt? Lets ask John wat h means by comandmt: "n watsoeva we ask we rcev of hm bcoz we keep hs comandmts n do thos tnz dat ar pleasn in hs sight. N THIS IS HIS COMANDMT, DAT WE SHD BELIV ON D NAME OF HS SON JESUS CHRIST, n lov 1 anothr" 1jn3:22-23!
I must save my ba3 here... Leme knw ur questns

MEILYN: you are confusing yourself. Love is the Law, the law of christ is the law of moses magnified. Stop deceiving yourselves abeg. You hardly qoute scriptures. Just your own opinion.

"The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable." (Isaiah 42:21). that is what Christ did. Nothing like abolishing the law mehn.

'the law of christ is the law of moses magnified.'
dat cant b true o, sinc Jesus hmsf said he came 2 FULFIL d law of moses, hw z he re-enacting what he finalisd by d sacrific of hmsf. Bibl says Christ is d END of d law. Eph2:15 says He abolishd d LAW OF COMANDMTS.. So wat else d u need 2 knw d law is over?
Are we 2 b lawless then? No! B4 d law came, didnt pple survive? Praise Christ 4eva more

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i did d airtel thng as said. Loaded N1000 n subscribd 4 the monthly bis. Didnt wait 4 a confrmatn sms because it delayed, but when i saw that my money has bn deductd, i quickly subscrbd 4 d BB10 daily (N100). I got a confrmatn sms 4 ds, bt alongsyd othr msgz tellng me i av 10mb, 15mb, 200mb. Dnt know whch is whch. Right now as i spk wt u, d mb which i tot shd b 3GB has finishd after 100mb usage. Pls what did i get wrong?

ohh, this comparison na wah o. Who do i go for, frank or Sinach? Has anyone heard this latest one from sinach "Shout It Loud" ( http://www.answerstothem.com/2013/04/shout-it-loud-sinach-album-tracks.html ), performed and recorded in South Africa. I think these two are the best for now