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Offpoint:
I remember that year I went to a Program and the invited guest speaker after preaching gave prayer points titled "Operation you must speak in tongues"

Those who can speak were asked to step backwards and those who can't forward.
That's when the whole church started prayers that lasted almost 3 hours, preacher said everyone must speaks in tongue.

After 2hrs everyone has spoken in tongues, whom I knew some fake it o...
I was the only one left o, that was how the entired church gathered around and starts bombarding me with prayers o.

30 minutes, no signs... preacher touch me, anoint me, push me, blow me breeze... no signs.
For my mind: God which can wahala be this? pity me now, even na just 5 seconds make I speak am... abi na so demons plenty for my body reach wey entire church gather for my head for over an hour and nothing show?
God abeg pity My life.

After over an hour the preacher man was like: The devil is liar, he must release you, I can see the spirit of tongues in you.
Me in my mind "You're right sir, I speak 7 languages"

After another 20 Minutes, preacher was like: See me after service.

Another questioning and prayers sessions after service o.


Tongues are mostly what Nigerians use to cover up when they ran out prayer points.

I've always question the logic of speaking a language nobody understands in church, a language not even you the speaker understands.... then what are you telling God when even you yourself don't understand?

I think the tongue of the Pentecostal Day was the only thing I found reasonable, what Nigerians are speaking is not tongues

I stopped taking them serious when I realized those who speaks in tongues, all of them individually all have one pattern they speak... you can't be telling God sake things since time immemorial.

Prayer for healing: oshe prapra robototo Mali kakobuyaya Toire

Prayer for protection: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

Prayer for Devine blessings: oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

All prayer points:
oshe prapra robototo Mali lukakukakabuyaya Toire

seriously?

Funny part some said they speak in tongues to confuse the devil
Devil who was once an heavenly citizen told them he doesn't understand heavenly tongues

My man, my candid advice to you is that you should get a bible-believing church to attend, and be committed to grow there.

Finally, the anti freedom of speech guys have found something to use to propagate their antisocial media bill..
Rumourmonger's are evil people but Heck! This isn't why we should accept to be gagged by your repressive government.
As far as I am concerned, there are extant laws to prosecute internet crimes. Nothing stops them from dragging the source of these rumours to court now, but you and I know they will never do that. But let someone do am expose on their secret mansions and looting now, they will arrest him immediately. Goes to show they only want to protect their atrocious lifestyle, not really for the masses

Mizwisdom:
The devil will always use empty vessels to attack God's kingdom, you need deliverance

So attacking a doctrine that we are to abstain from fornication for 40days and not forever is attacking "God's kingdom"?
God bless you

If na play,abeg stop am.
In Christianity, there's no "time to abstain from sin or fornication". The Christ life does not even have any such.

BTW methinks lent should be commemorated by feasting. Our Lord Jesus was a feaster and He asked no one to fast, not even His disciples were taught to fast. Anyway, our bridegroom is here, so na to dey chop

desiredhome:
Please I need to understand the never agree statement, I am a Christian and I don't see other religion or other people's believe as less important because we are all same human being, with one God.
I don't need to hate them because they don't belong to my religion.
Please educate me

I also need you to explain to me how one can claim to believe in the creed of Christianity and still believe other contrary religions are not "less important" as well.
For example, the Christians know and affirm that Jesus is son of God who died for the world and came back. Other views mock that there's nothing like the resurrection and God cannot have a son. How can one believe the two

BlueAngel444:
No

Simon Acts8:13-24

Does everyone that believe the truth about Jesus have the Holy Ghost? YES

* one cannot believe until it has been revealed.

And when you have the Holy Ghost, you have His power. Do you agree?

desiredhome:
God is not an author of confusion, the simple law of nature is you do the right thing (righteousness) irrespective of your believe.

And I am preaching from Bible, not nature. That's why I can only respect your right to your opinion, we can never agree

BlueAngel444:
After that, He was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:6

Out of 500 we see just 120

And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty)
Acts 1:15

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Acts 1:8

Power to be witnesses, power to testify, unto Yeshua

And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.
Acts 3:4

Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
Acts 3:6

Notice for the healing Peter says I not us, he was the one with that gift.

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:28

Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
1 Corinthians 12:29

Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
1 Corinthians 12:30

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as He will.
1 Corinthians 12:11
Also read

If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
1 Corinthians 12:15

And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
1 Corinthians 12:16

If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
1 Corinthians 12:17

But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
1 Corinthians 12:18

Does everyone that believe have the Holy Ghost?

BlueAngel444:
like I said earlier, God's power follows his will.


God gave to everyone who receives the Holy Ghost according to his will (MEANING WE DON'T ALL HAVE THE SAME POWER SIMPLE

Scripture and verse sir/ma

smat101:
And hope you don't see Christ Righteousness as a license to sin...but an empowerment to be Holy

Licence to sin, topic for another day..
Just accept being the righteousness of God in Christ first

desiredhome:
The word of God is truth and doesn't change, grace is upon us and we are saved by his grace.
Stealing, looting, barring false witness against another, scamming, kidnapping, cheating.......are all sin and evil of our time and the consequence of all these evils are the reason there is no peace
You can not engage in these sins and expect that grace will cover you, hence the quotation. no matter your believe or religion when you sin you will also receive multiple of wickness.
What so ever a man soweth so shall he reap.

I stopped reading when I saw the bolded.
We're definitely not speaking from the same Christ-centred viewpoint, so no point.

What Christ teaches is different from what general religion does.

desiredhome:
We are partakers of all those blessing through our righteousness not by confession
Shall we continue in sin that grace may abide?

Read that Rom 6 further, and you will see it's not the grace that will be taken if we "continue in sin",rather it is the ability to continue in sin that is no more there.. For he saith
"How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein"

It is "how shall we", not "how shall grace"
It's sin that's snuffed out by continual grace, not the other way around.
BTW God's blessings are unmerited. They are gifts, not rewards. For by strength shall no man prevail

BlueAngel444:
to them that believe

2 Thessalonians 3:2 not all men have faith

And even among them, their is those God selects, are all bishops? NO

to them that believe What?
The gospel being preached of course.
And who is a believer? One that believes the gospel!

All are not bishops of course, and being a bishop is not a prerequisite to receiving God's power. Is it

BlueAngel444:
4. Power to do God's will and not our imagination, He give according to His will some power to give and some power to help and yet others power to heal. The power of God in Samson did not do the same thing as in Elijah


Excellent write up

Yes, God gave the power to do His will.
To help, to give, to heal..
However, what isn't correct is the "some".. It's to ALL, not just selected few.

Mar 16:17-18 KJV 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

I hope the OP is not trying to paint self-righteousness of dead works.
If you believe in Christ, just know you have been made righteous freely and for ever. Therefore all rewards mentioned above are freely yours.
Amen

Why do topics as this make the FP on Sundays for Christ sake. Things are just not right about this write-up.
Please learn the true Word of God, not religion.
"demonic frustrations" are not "trials and temptations". Don't let Satan bully you thinking you're suffering trials. Revelations quoted refers to persecution, not demonic oppression.
Resist the devil and he will flee, but persecutiona comes from men, and always related to people when they are preaching the gospel.


The OP also mentioned that trials are ways God tests us to see if we truly deserve eternity.. Na wah for some people o. Bible says "the GIFT of God is eternal life". It is a FREE GIFT, God originally ordained That we live forever with him, so which one is working to earn eternal life?
By the way, nobody can merit eternal life. We all are unworthy and will always be.
Let me ask you something. If someone never endured any "temptation", but at the point of death repents and receives Jesus, will he get to heaven? But you doctrine says we have to show we truly qualify for it?

mechanics:
But other networks have not yet effected theirs.

VAT is charged on data too

kunleweb:
Why must we keep have controversies when it comes to Christian issues but Muslim threads on Friday are all pro-pristine threads. Nairaland and it's hatred for Christianity

I was about to say something like this, but blame the op and not NL for having something like this on FP.
Except the OP is an atheist or Muslim, why on earth would you come online to post "8 most controversial issues"? Does this edify the body?
Now that it has been posted, have the issues been solved?

midnighter:
I can see that you're in denial like so many of your brothers and sisters. Masaa al khair!

You just dey serve them hot hot..
Dem don quiet
Kudos

Xisnin:
There was never a $16 billion dollar spent.
Nigeria neither has that money nor did it borrowed it.
The proposal was to spend $16 billion dollars, about $2 billion dollars was eventually spent on independent power projects.
It is not a surprise why the contractors and ministers involved in the projects are not on the top list on EFCC
since that would have been used to humiliate OBJ. This is not a defense of anybody because fraud is always involved in
any government contract but it is important to set the record straight.

Bless you sir/ma
Politicians playing on Nigerians emotional inclination rather than facts

Actually, the chances of getting a sim previously used by a fraudster is somewhat high. Because one scammer can have like 50 different SIM cards that he disposes after each fraud

Juliearth:
Better still, before selecting a suitable SIM, type in the number on truecaller. A virgin number shouldn't pop up any name.

Truecaller only has names saved on it. Not all names are on it

Hypocrisy is when a buharist will call out these legislators as greedy, but suddenly see nothing wrong with buhari daughter flying the presidential jet for personal use

Youthleader22:
While some countries and even cities are using Gigawatts.. Nigeria is still rallying around 3,000 megawatts since democracy. Is our government not crazy?

You hit the nail on the head.
National generation is measured in GW. Only here we still use MW to make it politically bearable and to downplay the grand ineptitude. Imagine we're struggling with 5,000MW, or say it as it is, 5GW

adenigga:
The govenors have tried but what we need is to insist on our autonomy to run our internal affairs. Those who will allow Amotekun to work would have allowed stare police” Afenifere said.

The above statement is the solution suggested!

You have time to reply people who don't bother to read but are bent on criticising

Na wah

Skmoda360:
You are saying the truth about PCCG....so much a fake church and fake pastor

No.. PCCG is not controversial like this sotitobire, at least I've never heard shady stuff about them, except the usual "there are too much miracles" paranoids give

It is brother..
We pay between 6-12k per day for any contract job.
But it's an added advantage if you can fit as well. That way, you can bid for contracts by yourself, win, and then hire other welders to work for you

This is entirely wrong, and I believe every true Christian ought to stand up to resist this because it will definitely degenerate to religious persecution with time.
What's the business of the secular police with fake or real miracle?
What they ought to do, or the headline should have been is "arrest for defrauding people", not faking miracles. And BTW, if it can be proven that those victims voluntarily gave up their money, then this is no case.
I understand there are crooks in clerical uniforms, (there are crooks in every profession anyway), but it's not the state's business to determine church activities as long as it doesn't disturb public peace

Use Giroud Abeg

You call this "stats" or just results

Wallade:
Some comments on this thread indicated that you guys assume the Minister who gave the directive is not informed and conversant with the telecommunications industry to the extent that he can authoritatively conclude that data rates and cost in Nigeria is too high.

You all have less information in that field compared to him. If NCC truly gave that excuse stated above, that indicates that NCC has been perverted by telecommunications service providers.

Anyway, the market leader - MTN - just responded to the demand of the minister. To all the "doubting Thomas" and pessimists, try to dial *131*65# and confirm. Others are expected to follow suit, GLO should not come and throw cheap data via poor network ohhhhh. Abeg, what is the sense in having 200G data that I can hardly use despite moving around the whole space, even in my room, looking for network.

Thank you Minister.

Truth is, it's the same ministry of communication that put a floor on the price of data thereby making data expensive.. Not this man though, it's the former minister