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anyone leaving from akure in d house

thanks all! finally got it, late yesternight. signed and sent.

next issue: accommodation

Owoado:
bro, if u got d msg abt d offer letter try send dem msg, reply d msg

I've done that 6 times

does anyone have their phone number please

naijaboylive:
Are you kidding me...did u get the two success mails from HHCS.

hhcsnigeria@gmail.com right?

naijaboylive:
Are you kidding me...did u get the two success mails from HHCS.

of cos. since Friday

2:07 pm Thursday, I'm yet to receive my scanned copy of offer letter o, and I got the previous mail since Friday 2:07 pm Thursday, I'm yet to receive my scanned copy of offer letter o, and I got the previous mail since Friday

please what's resumption time on Monday. I'm like 2.30 hours away from Benin, so I can plan my journey

naijaboylive:
They will send it...I haven't received either.

same here o. I wonder

gcey2k:
Graveyard mode activated
I know we're busy with the processing buh we shouldn't abandon our meeting ground nw...

Btw have anyone contacted Godson?

lool.. no vex. me self wonder o

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pls I never get admission. when is deadline for submitting admission letter

signing of guarantors form. how far

please where on earth is the landmark hotel?

got an invite too. trying to verify. nothing found on their site yet

melvin0004:
gv me ur mail for d materials

thuraya074real@yahoo.com

let's give like likely questions please. things to note at the interview

don't forget to reply the mail and confirm your attendance.

[quote author=do-not-sin]unwholesome & incomplete teachings that make members & pastors to live filty,godless,shameful lives right in the church while claiming to be christians.Bringing shame and reproach to the name of Christ before other religions.Making muslims to feel justified to kill christians everywhere.[/quote]Are you saying you and your people are PERFECT now such that you don't have weaknesses? funny.

Well the message is for those who have weaknesses not for impeccable men. God specialises in using the WEAK things, not perfect ones, to confound the mighty. The best of us will still need the mercy of God, so why shy away from what must save you?

@kei144, are you asking a question, or just trying to impose your opinion about it

What does it mean to “be born of water and of the Spirit”?


Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5 KJV)


Just like many other words of Jesus, many have found this term difficult to explain. Even though everyone is entitled to his own opinion, we can spot out any fallacious interpretation of scripture wherever we find it if only we hold on to a guide submitting to the Spirit. Alleluia!


First, I want to say that this word "be born of water and the Spirit" should not so much worry the Christian. It never gave Nicodemus to whom that word was spoken to so much a headache in finding its interpretation as it seems to be giving most Gentile Christians today. There are proofs Nicodemus got the message Jesus was passing; and I think any Jewish man would also grab it easily because it was a Jewish terminology. But a gentile Christian may not understand it.


Straight to meaning, may we see the context?

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:3-5 KJV)

In simple terms, without Greek/Hebrew dictionary, without a theological literacy background, we can see what we need in the statements.

First, Jesus said, a man needs to be born again. But this was a strong New Creation term and the man in the talk did not seem to understand. "How can a man be born when he is old?" he replied. So Jesus was trying to explain using examples of "earthly things" perhaps he will understand. "If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how shall you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" (John 3:12 MKJV). Thus, in seeking a practical explanation, Jesus began to say "Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit…"; that is, to be born again is the same as to be born of water and of the Spirit; in that one is a further illustration of the other. Hence, if you do not understand the first, you should, the second or vice-versa. One is not a "deeper level" of the other as some have presupposed. Being born of the water and of the Spirit is not a higher level than being born again. This misinterpretation probably came from Jesus' use of the word "see the kingdom" in one and "enter into the kingdom" in the other.

Except a man be born again, he cannot SEE the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot ENTER into the kingdom of God.

I believe both ("see" and "enter" mean the same thing; in as much as to be born again is the same as to be born of water and the Spirit. That is, when you are born again, you are born of water and of the Spirit at the same time. It is not water baptism and Holy Ghost baptism as some have also thought. "See" only speaks of experiencing, and "Enter" speaks of being launched into the kingdom experience. Therefore, to be born again is to enter the kingdom of God; and to be born of water and the Spirit is quintessentially to enter or see the kingdom of God. The kingdom being referred to here, do not seem to be heaven, but a place where people are launched into immediately they are born again.

Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God. (1 John 5:1 MKJV)

"Born of water and of the Spirit" speaks of spiritual washing and spiritual quickening. The best parallel text I have seen with this text is Titus 3:5

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy HE SAVED US, BY THE WASHING OF REGENERATION, and renewing of the HOLY GHOST; (Titus 3:5 KJV)

He says, that washing/baptism is regeneration and that "of Spirit" is the "renewing of the Holy Ghost" done on the man.


Another version says:
he saved us through the WASHING in which the Holy Spirit gives us NEW BIRTH and renewal. (Titus 3:5 GW)

We are made to know that for the Christian, he has been washed (baptised) from an evil conscience; he has his body washed with pure water.

…having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies WASHED with WATER. (Hebrews 10:22 KJV)

Thus we are born of water and of the Spirit when we are born again! Nothing needs to be added to "complete" us, for "we are complete in him who is the head of all principalities" (Colossians 2:10).


Hence saint, you can rest in hope and confident assurance of what Christ has done for you, rooted and built up in Him, giving thanks always.

Shocking! The Prequalification for Grace is Ungodliness

Basic! Contrary to what most of us will teach about grace, the prequalification for Grace is not godliness but ungodliness.

You don't say "before God can approve you, before God can declare you righteous, before God can have mercy (grace) on you, before you can find favour with God, you must be godly, holy or at least 'trying'". How laughable is such assertion. The speaker is contradicting himself without knowing. It's like a man who goes to a sorcerer to get rituals for wealth and the sorcerer tells him, before you can get this wealth rituals to work, you must bring some millions of naira, and then, each day you must keep paying some millions into so and so account to "renew" it. If you had such huge amount of money, why will you seek a charm for the same? The same thing applies to righteousness. If you had righteousness, why will you seek God to declare you righteous. Grace is not for "able" men! The kingdom of God is for the poor in spirit, not the rich.


Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3

Bible teaches that the man God justifies is the ungodly man.

Romans 4:5 KJV
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that JUSTIFIETH THE UNGODLY, his faith is counted for righteousness.

BBE But to him who without working has faith in him who gives righteousness to the evil-doer, his faith is put to his account as righteousness.


So don't wait to drop all your sins before accepting Jesus: you bring them all along with you to the cross. Don't drop your sinful habits please lest you get proud and feel you don't really need Jesus anymore. Jesus is sent to turn you away from your sins (Acts 3:26). No matter how much sins you may have felt you have dropped, there is one thing that must not just be dropped but crucified: the old man.

Romans 6:6 KJV
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him , that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

You cannot crucify that old man, you can only receive the crucifixion from Christ. This is far more than "I dropped lying; I dropped adultery; I dropped this; I dropped that" so don't claim godliness to receive grace. Romans 3:26 calls God "the justifier": that is God's duty. Let grace have her perfect work to justify you and to turn you from your sins. With this God is pleased.

please can someone give these people a call and get us facts. what's going on

[quote author=c.simms7]Praise The Lord! Praise God!! I no fit shout. The Lord is good. Don't know where to start from, choi! Thank you Jesus.
Ehm! Dem neva call me oooo! Bible say in all things give thanks. As we dey wait make we dey give God the thanks still. Lol.[/quote]pls stop this intentional suspense now. as if they don call, that's what I thought when you were jubilating

the bible sayys what the law served unto was to be our schoolmaster unto Christ. Now Christ has come, what are u doing undr the law?

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
(Galatians 3:24-25 KJV)

Before Christ came, Moses' laws served as our guardian. Christ came so that we could receive God's approval by faith. But now that this faith has come, we are no longer under the control of a guardian.
(Galatians 3:24-25 GW)

hello, does this guardian of moses' law speak of sacrificial laws? Hmm. there is faith today n faith is the fulfilment of the law (because it leads u to Christ. after u get to Christ, u are sad to hav establshed/fulfilled the law)
i have not made void the law as a believer who refused the codes of Moses. when u search n study the law n prophets, it is that you should come to the fath of Christ! because Christ is what moses n all prophets point to.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
(John 5:39-40 KJV)

Jesus says, the scriptures [the law n prophets] offer no eternal life, but when you realise everrrything in it poiints to "bring us unto Christ" nu follow it unto Christ, that is ETERNAL LIFE! believe the gospel friend! THE LAW IS DONE FOREVER FOR THE MAN IN CHRIST!
Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

brothers lsten

look at it ths way. the law was given as if to help men who were under the yoke of sin to as it were, please God. the law is good, holy n just, but it succeeded in makng sin abundant. "for by the law is the knowledg of sin". it made sin revived. the law was in summary a failure because men to whom it came were "carnal" and "sold under sin". (Now there is no mention of sacrificial law here. study the full Romans 7, n know it is infact more of moral laws "I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."(Romans 7:7 KJV) this is one example to tell u it s nothing about sacrifices as u have always claimed)

chapter 8 of Romans therefore says For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Romans 8:3-4 KJV)

it s saying what the law ought to do in which it failed, Jesus came n did it successfully so that the rightoeusness the law wanted to achieve is fulfilled in us. So Jesus is the replacement of the law. so that today, a man who believes in Jesus is ALREADY righteous by the same. he is SANTIFYD by the same Jesus! all without the law!

Bidam: 31 Are we abolishing the laws in the Scriptures by this faith? That’s unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting these laws.
Paul says here that are we to abolish the laws in scriptures because of our faith..God punish devil..we go support am.

isnt it clear from this text that ts saying, a man of faith is the man that fulfilled the law?

because the law is supposed to be our schoolmaster unto faith of Christ.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
(Galatians 3:24 KJV)

MEILYN: @Kay, other translations are getting you confused... That Ephesians 2:15 is saying something else, that translation is wrong.

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" (Ephesians 2:15).<<< what does ordinances mean? Chaii, i dont wanna explain this, but that translation is wrong, this verse is saying something else entirely. You dont understand scriptures oo.

i'm fed up with this people o, bcosthe version dnt seem to favour u, u called them wrong, not just one version,, not two, many versions said one thng! Even kjv says LAWS OF COMMANDMENTS that are in ORDINACES. 3 words that are synonymns of LAW used by kjv. where else can jews n gentiles b reconciled when there is law? SO Christ had to abolished that whole system of law to make in himself a new creation where there is neither circumcision nor uncircumcision, but Christ is all and in all.

good job meilyn.
nw listn evry1, i tnk i got the point of meiln. Yes, there are scrptures dat say Christ came to fulfil/end the law, n dats true. but that certainly does not mean that God who had said "thou shal nt lie", is now sayin "dont worry about lie,help ursef". God who had in the law said "thou shal not commit adultery" now cancelled d law n say "you can now eye ur neigbor's wife or snatch ur friend's fiancee".definitely not! but its clear to every1 He does not delight in sacrfce n offerings as in Hebrews 10 he cited.

but he perhaps dnt get his method of communicatn perfect. NEVER SAY GOD DESTROYED ONLY A PART OF THE LAW, my bro, because it isnt true. wait lemme show u from scrptures, i know u like bble-based answers.

there is only a portion of the scriptures u had to support that one law iis sacrficial n some, moral. those chapters8,9,10 n Hebrews talked of the sacrifices don in the law just as an INSTANCE of the whole body of law that went to conclusion, to pave way into the liiberty of sonship today. leme show u this..

the author began to speak of Jesus "consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus" Heb 3:1.
Heb 8:3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore [it is] of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
this is why the writer began a series on sacrifces offered by the law for sin.because he wanted to show us the contrast btwn the law and Grace thru Christ in respect of how the two offer for sin, n he was able to grab a scripture where it was said Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and [sacrifices] for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

he sure didnt quote this verses to EXPLAIN that it was ONLY SACRIFICES that were done away with. He quoted all that to explain the Priesthood of Jesus and his new n living method of sacrificing for sins, contrasting Law and Grace brot by Him.

Now lets see other scrptures that ESTABLISH that MORAL LAWS were as well done away with (even though there's still no license for sin) GRACE ISNT THAT YOU ARE NOW FREE TO SIN, BUT THAT YOU ARE NOW FREED FROM SIN Do not err, my brethren.


For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
(Romans 10:4 KJV) <<<nowhere in this context did he talk about sacrifices

For Christ has brought the Law to an end, so that everyone who believes is put right with God.
(Romans 10:4 GNB)

But Christ makes the Law no longer necessary for those who become acceptable to God by faith.
(Romans 10:4 CEV)<<<<< there is no mention of sacrifices here, iis any?

He brought an end to the commandments and demands found in Moses' Teachings (Ephesians 2:15 GW)<<<<whereas moses teachings are more than just sacrifices

He abolished the Jewish Law with its commandments and rules (Ephesians 2:15 GNB)<<< Des this speak only of sacrifces when he says comndmnts n rules?

to destroy the Law of Moses with all its rules and commands. (Ephesians 2:15 CEV)

So, then, if with Christ you've put all that pretentious and infantile religion behind you, why do you let yourselves be bullied by it? "Don't touch this! Don't taste that! Don't go near this!" Do you think things that are here today and gone tomorrow are worth that kind of attention?
(Colossians 2:20-22 MSG)


the questn that mat arise now is: HOW DO WE KNOW IF WHAT WE DO IS RYT OR WRONG since there is no law again?
Of course there is the N.T. Law:

And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
(1 John 3:22-23 KJV)

anytime you see commandment of God in the N.T., it is talking about faith in Christ and love, not 613 or 10 commandments (as it were).

The people asked Jesus, "What does God want us to do?" Jesus replied to them, "God wants to do something for you so that you believe in the one whom he has sent." (John 6:28-29 GW)


so moral laws aren't "laws" in the sense of it being the extension or magnification of the Mosaic. Love is a NEW COMMANDMENT (Jn 13:34).

in concluson, Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, ALL THINGS are become new.
(2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV)

MEILYN: "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. " (Matthew 5:27-28).

Christ also came to abolish the sacrificial laws. Not morals, he came to correct morals.

funny enuf, these law guys dont keep the laws they advocate o. Moses' law was so difficult, so Jesus came to increase the yoke. how many times av you lustfully consider a pretty girl and after that you pluck out the eyes as Jesus COMMANDED? how many times hav u cut the hand that made you sin as in the magnifed law of Christ? you just replied people harshly here, whereas Jesus said u shd turn the other cheek if one slaps you.
well! heaven is real! hell is real! choose where you want, 'cause i perceiive you hav not yet accepted the Lordship of Jesus, the one on whom we trust and make heaven. saved by grace alone says one of our hyms,. another says, t is enuf that Jesus died. another: In Chrst ALONE my hope is found. keep the modiifed moral laws, okay? but i know that "by the deeds of the law shall no flesh b justfied"

MEILYN: bro, good point, very true. What does it mean to be Holy? What is Holiness?

"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." (Romans 7:12). the law is holy, if you aint keeping the laws you cant be holy. You have spoken well.

brother of God, ha! i feel u o
you didnt read the next verse: Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.