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Ngozi123:
The answer is simple: Nigeria has never been a democracy and so many of its people cannot/will not appreciate a fully functioning democratic system.

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Oui mais un peu

Ngozi123:
So, this is how Nigerians reason nowadays? Quel dommage!

It's all fun and games until this non-democratic sense of reasoning turns itself in your direction.

C'est tres abominable! How they feel justified with d deliberate destruction of democratic institutions and subversion of d rule of law leaves me at a loss for words.

It's time to institute fundamental human rights enforcement proceedings to secure the release of Nnamdi Kanu because it's obvious the FG has nothing and no case to be sustained against him. If they are not prepared to get serious and grant accelerated hearing of this case before a competent and unbiased judge, then d case should be struck out.

Why should a person be before different judges and still identify strong issues of bias or have judges hands off due to external pressure? Must some dirty, wicked, ulterior motive be achieved against NK? What sort of stupid government is too afraid to allow an untainted judicial process just to nail a perceived enemy?

Candyrain:
Nwanyi oma, Rose dikwa na mma. Giwan kwanu? Ote go.

Otego n'eziokwu. A dim mma, na gba kwa mbo. Anyi na fu ihe n'aga n'obodo na mbughari anyi no na ya kita.

Baba doesn't need am economic team! He knows best and with his 'integrity' he cannot go wrong. Let us all be patient, support him and give him all d support he needs, the most important of which is to hail every word or action from the government. We must also remind ourselves that every uninformed, ignorant and inept action or words they might release that reflects negatively on d ppl and d economy is squarely the fault of the previous administration.

Oops! They are all perfectly sound! My bad

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The evil that men do live with and after them. For all d injustices meted out to others they will continue to receive triple fold until their lands are desolate!

I expect the court to strike out this suit and cite the AGF for filing a frivolous action. These people are mad!

Pant and bra nko? Will those help? Cos the change must begin with me, before department of behaviour control will come calling...

Candyrain:
Cowardice at its peak, dats exactly what the skunk just exhibited.

Nne nno

Hey! Candy sugar! Ke kwanu Rose2014?

Apart from being a two-faced stink ball, he isn't even bold enough to stand by his foolishness and at least defend it as his brand of stupidity!

Op: please adjust your title, it's just too hard on the eyes!

The mud slinging has started. In all of these Nigerian citizens suffer the worst. No tangible development yet silly dogs keep playing politics.

How can this be? How can a governor appoint his wife to head a committee that is supposed to be part of governance? Anyway it is d hallmark of this administration, blatant nepotism!

The whole amnesty bullshït orchestrated by Rochas is just one mess of hocus pocus!

Willress:
One person made an error and you generalise it on a whole tribe it shows the state of your mind. Do yourself a favour and stop the hatred

Read again :

kenny987:
See double-faced, forked tongue personality. Full of deception and lies; they have no mind of their own, always moved by whatever happens to be the fad.

U call this a tribal generalisation? U must be a joker! Do u see any reference to any tribe in my post?

Besides how is the op an error? Outright deception is what u classify as an error? Where is d apology for his previous diligence in posting boko haram videos so that we can tell he has seen the error of his ways and is now repentant? U must be same as he to attempt to input what isn't there and call something what it is not. Highly deceitful! Tueh!!

E yaf red for Tinubu and co. Hope they can handle internal democracy issues cos that was PDP's albatross.

But of course bubu holds cows more sacred than any other thing including human life. That is why cows dot every available area of Abuja with impunity. We also know he's been feeding gullible pigs with lies over the Chibok girls scam...na wrap up una don reach for the drama, na how to end am be d problem now. See Oby has faded quickly because of small action they showed her yet she refused to rest with those wide lips in previous years, deliberately assisting demons to unseat her own. Where is d fake Chibok girl that was supposedly found with her 'boko haram husband?'

Useless liars and thieves!!

See double-faced, forked tongue personality. Full of deception and lies; they have no mind of their own, always moved by whatever happens to be the fad.

banki:
but does the president have power to just restructure the country?
what then is the job of national assembly
what then is the job of state house of assembly

so a state like bayelsa state that is so small in population and earn twice the amount that lagos earn and cannot pay salaries will now be going to rivers state to collect allocation?

so Anambara or Enugu state will now be regional head for potentially richest state in Nigeria ABA ?

so after all the hard work el rufai is putting into kaduna, one lazy governor from katsina will come and collect allocation from kaduna....

oh Ibadan will now be district head for people in lagos?

you political jobbers should shut up elections have been won and lost live with it

First Aba is not a state it is Abia. Restructuring is d fastest means of achieving the much sought after diversification. Nobody will be going to anywhere to collect allocation. All areas or regions will have to produce because they must fund d centre on agreed percentages.

Restructuring is not new and has nothing to do with elections won and lost. Reducing it to that level is pure mischief and ignorance rolled into one. Terrible combo...

Did this op drink urine? Has any Air Peace aircraft been reported to have crashed or been compromised? Is this how they want badmouth someone's business? This APC ehn! Kai!

Elkay3:
OK, thank you very much. How do I pay you? And how much?

No need. It's a free language and that's why I asked u to find out for urself in d first place.

seunmsg:
Therein lies the problem of definition that I am talking about. Restructuring means different thing to different people based on tribal/political/selfish interest. To some people, restructuring will entail a complete demolition of the current 36 states structure for a new regional system. To some, it is resource control. To you, the current state should still exist. All I am saying is, can the proponents of restructuring give us a clear and unanimous definition of the new structure that they are proposing?

There has got to be an agreement and willingness to entertain the question of restructuring before a model can be agreed upon. When it is foreclosed by a particular set of people due to misunderstanding or an erroneous interpretation of what restructuring entails, there will never be a unanimous definition of a structure. It is a coward that refuses to explore just because he does not understand something. The obvious fact remains that what we have right now is not working. We have been at it for more than 40yrs.

We will not be reinventing the wheel. What we need to do is study those nations we want to be as developed as and follow the best adaptable model without losing our identity. The obvious tribal n ethnic divide cannot be overlooked and so the mistrust and obvious inequalities will continue to cause major issues. We cannot continue to play politics with our existence if we want to grow beyond this third world status.

Elkay3:
Sir, please enlighten me more.

Since u cannot check...

BASHFUL
ˈbaʃfʊl,-f(ə)l/ (adjective)

reluctant to draw attention to oneself; shy.
"everything you need to know but have been too bashful to ask"
synonyms: shy, reserved, diffident, retiring, self-conscious, coy, demure, reticent, reluctant, shrinking, timid, timorous, meek...etc

The thread was in no way 'bashful'. U simply used that word because u figured it was d same meaning as d tribal/ethnic bashing usually displayed here.

Elkay3:
This thread is bashful. Make I wait see the bashers...but like seriously dis guy got some point. Or, lemme look well...

seunmsg:
Please, let's understand each other clearly. I am not against the call for restructuring. I have listened to different people make the call and they all have varying opinions on the exact structure that we should transit to. What I want to see is a coordinated view on restructuring. Not the present call that is been pushed by various tribal/political interest. Should we restructure to regionalism or should we maintain the current 36 states structure? Should we adopt the 50 states recommendation of Jonathan's confab? Should we devolve more powers to the current state structure and reduce the power of the federal government? These and many more are the issues that I want the proponents of restructuring to clearly define instead of each person pushing different versions.

Again, people like me are sceptical of the interest of the proponents of restructuring because they often limit their argument to resource control. Which resources do they want to control? The resources deposited by God under the land and in the deep water? Did the resources get there by the hard work of any tribe or just by God's magnanimity? You can decide to be emotional about this but I will be pragmatic. Natural resources should be put to the benefit of all citizens of the country and not to a particular state or region. What is the productivity of these oil states apart from oil? Akwa Ibom collects the highest revenue among the states, what is her productivity apart from oil? Nothing! Why should Osun or Gombe be forced to be productive and Akwa Ibom is excused? We should encourage general productivity and not excuse others. What the proponents of resource control want is an unequal union where a region will be stupendously rich while the others are in abject poverty. That is unfair if you ask me.

For any region to exist, it has got to be viable not bearing d title if 'state' without being able to do what a state does. Personally I'd rather the former regional system or at best the 6-geopolitical zones with proper boundary adjustments so that Kwara will be in d SW as yoruba land that it is; Igbo speaking areas carved into the SS and NC will join their Igbo kin and Ijaw in Ondo will properly join their brethren in d SS. The middle belt will have their own identity as MB and not be some appendage of the North. The geopolitical zones must then be recognised in d constitution because right now they exist for mere administrative convenience.

I prefer this because it reduces the cost of governance. Even if we retain d bicameral legislature, there'd be less persons to cater for as legislators. In fact, membership of the NASS should be on a part time basis with specific sitting schedules and room for emergencies where necessary. If this is achieved, there would be no need for elections into the NASS because those representatives will be appointed from among regional representatives already elected at regional levels.

For the area of one region being stupendously rich while another is poor...it tells me u still believe it's all about oil and nothing else. That is not the case! Even the oil producing regions that have their crude in commercial quantity cannot eat n drink oil. They must trade it to get other things they need. Ogun or Ondo have loads of gold, cocoa and arable land. Money from these or from crude have he same value. Let me ask u, before crude discovery did d regions not survive? Talking of an unequal union, do you have an equal union now?

There is industrialisation to be achieved and manufacturing. Must it be oil? That they control resources does not mean it will not get to others. It is about agreed terms n conditions! The SS will need to construct buildings. Do they have cement or limestone? The nickel recently discovered, was it in d South? Agriculture, well harnessed is a money spinner or do u not know it? U ask what d economic contribution of Akwa Ibom is beyond crude and that is a funny question really. It had got rich arable land and aquatic resources as well. Varieties of vegetables abound that's why they are known for their afang, edikaikong, atama, fisherman soup etc. Of course u know food and hospitality go hand-in-hand as very lucrative ventures when we'll managed.

My post u quoted clearly addresses d issue of devolution of power. I made it clear that d FG is overburdened and unwieldy. For responsibilities like education, internal security, infrastructure creation and so on to be concentrated at regional level, there must be more funds to cater for them.

asitis752:
Both are very corrupt but I think the level of PDP's corruption has never been reported in the history of the world

Wait till APC is hopefully out of power. The discoveries will properly shock u to ur marrows...

HtwoOw:
Did the person found die?

Decomposed bodies usually have no life in them. What kind of slow question is this?

Serious drama!

kenny987:
To properly understand the concept of restructuring/regionalism, I'll invite you to come clean and free urself of any remote bias against any perceived enemy. Now, when u take time to study the fusion of the various regions that make up the current Nigerian Federation and that of the US, one important thing is missing-the voluntary and organic achievement of statehood and then nationhood. I have referenced the US because we copied d current presidential system of govt and federalism from d US only that we have bastardised it and I'll tell you how.

Now, I'm assuming u passed through secondary school and university in the hands of ur parents. If u didn't then try to picture a standard home where parents are providers for their offspring. For a student used to weekly or monthly upkeep and a home or accommodation paid for, what is the motivation to work and be independent? However, it gets to a time when after studying u start looking for ur own source of income, before long u move out and establish ur independence or for a lady, usually marriage or she gets a job and has to move. Now this is a regular progression most likely because no parent wants to coddle a child forever provided there's no disability.

With the above scenario in mind, tell me: in d event that ur parents continue to insist on wielding some control and keep spoon feeding u, will u seriously strike out on ur own and achieve ur potential? The natural answer is no because humans ordinarily want things easy. Now do u not get disgusted when u see a grown-ass man with a woman producing children in his father's house and they even fight d elderly parents over provisions? That is what Nigeria looks like to an extent. The more annoying part is that d resources are located in d various regions, d FG is just created as a unifying factor or rallying point if u will. Yet, by law, the FG takes from the regions or states, administers the process of extraction and the decides some form of sharing factor to give back to the same states or regions. Where is d sense in that?

Imagine you're married and a mother inlaw decides that everything within ur home is hers to control and return as she deems fit, keeping d lion share for herself of course, will u be happy? Will u also attempt to construct certain facilities which she claims is her sole responsibility yet she fails to do them and still claims that which u do as hers? Will u not rather take whatever she gives you that u haven't sweated for and use it as u like especially since u don't even have to render any account to her?

Now, restructuring is some form of coming of age. All the citizens of Nigeria including operatives of d FG come from various regions. Clearly, state governors with the collusion of the FG have created some form of insulation that makes it almost impossible for citizens to hold their immediate leaders or representatives responsible for their failures. It is the reason someone like Aregbesola can say he cannot pay salaries because revenue has reduced and banks have refused to give him loans. This is because he is used to handouts from d centre with no questions asked. Again, just d way children tend to pick up behavioral traits and manners from their parents and those they watch, that is d same way d states mirror d lackadaisical attitude and non innovativeness of d Big Brother FG. Before discovery of oil, regions needed to survive and were responsible for ensuring that their obligations to d indigenes or citizens were met. The moment crude came on board and d FG commandeered crude and its proceeds, the independence of d states n regions were lost because of dependence on free, unregulated money. The FG developed tunnel vision for oil money only to d detriment of other sectors, even d oil e no arrange well hence our inability to refine and meet local demand talk less of export. Automatically states also started waitng cap-in-hand for oil money monthly allocation.

To achieve proper restructuring or devolution of power, the more constitution must be overhauled or completely replaced. For instance, policing. Where do the people reside? Who understands ur people more? Fellow tribesmen or outsiders? So why should internal policing be the sole responsibility of the FG that then sends a Borno man and Tiv officers for instance to head a police command and be the officers in that command for Kalabari people for instance? Do they understand the terrain? Can there really be enough trust for d Kalabari mam to give up his brother who commits a crime to a fulani police officer who may not understand the workings of the community in order to maintain peaceable punish infractions?

Education! What is d FG's business with secondary school education which is basic really? What is d point of duplication of efforts in the area of health that we will now be hearing of Federal hospitals and d states will still need to duplicate efforts? Issues of taxation go to d federal high court. Why should a company that produces chivita for instance be located in Bayelsa State and yet d state will have to sue in a federal high court or vice versa when issues of taxation come up? Exactly why must d FG be involved in d relationship b/w a company and d state within which it operates?

I referred you to the US earlier. Do you realise d states own n control their resources ie d individuals who own land where any natural resources are found are automatically owners of those resources? The role of d state is legislate n regulate d extraction, processing, distribution and standards of whatever products as well as taxes. U realise d states have their courts up to supreme courts?

The aim of restructuring will therefore cut off that dependence on the centre, the notion of free money dies and each region will create administratibe units it can cater for. A situation where Kano has 44 LGAs because of mere geographical size and it cannot fund those lgas by itself will not arise. In fact, there will be no need to swell figures during census just to justify more federal allocation. Citizens at municipal or community level will better engage their leaders at those levels because they see they have to be productive and pay their taxes in order to survive. So any hanky panky by their leaders can be addressed because they understand each other clearly as per ethnic similarities.

PS: I am female not some 'Mr Man'.

Rahym001:
Mr man please can you help us define restructuring;

seunmsg:
Can you define clearly for me and others that don't understand the exact meaning, scope and extent of this restructuring that you are clamouring for? I seriously want to learn from you.

To properly understand the concept of restructuring/regionalism, I'll invite you to come clean and free urself of any remote bias against any perceived enemy. Now, when u take time to study the fusion of the various regions that make up the current Nigerian Federation and that of the US, one important thing is missing-the voluntary and organic achievement of statehood and then nationhood. I have referenced the US because we copied d current presidential system of govt and federalism from d US only that we have bastardised it and I'll tell you how.

Now, I'm assuming u passed through secondary school and university in the hands of ur parents. If u didn't then try to picture a standard home where parents are providers for their offspring. For a student used to weekly or monthly upkeep and a home or accommodation paid for, what is the motivation to work and be independent? However, it gets to a time when after studying u start looking for ur own source of income, before long u move out and establish ur independence or for a lady, usually marriage or she gets a job and has to move. Now this is a regular progression most likely because no parent wants to coddle a child forever provided there's no disability.

With the above scenario in mind, tell me: in d event that ur parents continue to insist on wielding some control and keep spoon feeding u, will u seriously strike out on ur own and achieve ur potential? The natural answer is no because humans ordinarily want things easy. Now do u not get disgusted when u see a grown-ass man with a woman producing children in his father's house and they even fight d elderly parents over provisions? That is what Nigeria looks like to an extent. The more annoying part is that d resources are located in d various regions, d FG is just created as a unifying factor or rallying point if u will. Yet, by law, the FG takes from the regions or states, administers the process of extraction and the decides some form of sharing factor to give back to the same states or regions. Where is d sense in that? Imagine you're married and a mother inlaw decides that everything within ur home is hers to control and return as she deems fit, keeping d lion share for herself of course, will u be happy? Will u also attempt to construct certain facilities which she claims is her sole responsibility yet she fails to do them and still claims that which u do as hers? Will u not rather take whatever she gives you that u haven't sweated for and use it as u like especially since u don't even have to render any account to her?

Now, restructuring is some form of coming of age. All the citizens of Nigeria including operatives of d FG come from various regions. Clearly, state governors with the collusion of the FG have created some form of insulation that makes it almost impossible for citizens to hold their immediate leaders or representatives responsible for their failures. It is the reason someone like Aregbesola can say he cannot pay salaries because revenue has reduced and banks have refused to give him loans. This is because he is used to handouts from d centre with no questions asked. Again, just d way children tend to pick up behavioral traits and manners from their parents and those they watch, that is d same way d states mirror d lackadaisical attitude and non innovativeness of d Big Brother FG. Before discovery of oil, regions needed to survive and were responsible for ensuring that their obligations to d indigenes or citizens were met. The moment crude came on board and d FG commandeered crude and its proceeds, the independence of d states n regions were lost because of dependence on free, unregulated money. The FG developed tunnel vision for oil money only to d detriment of other sectors, even d oil e no arrange well hence our inability to refine and meet local demand talk less of export. Automatically states also started waitng cap-in-hand for oil money monthly allocation.

To achieve proper restructuring or devolution of power, the more constitution must be overhauled or completely replaced. For instance, policing. Where do the people reside? Who understands ur people more? Fellow tribesmen or outsiders? So why should internal policing be the sole responsibility of the FG that then sends a Borno man and Tiv officers for instance to head a police command and be the officers in that command for Kalabari people for instance? Do they understand the terrain? Can there really be enough trust for d Kalabari mam to give up his brother who commits a crime to a fulani police officer who may not understand the workings of the community in order to maintain peaceable punish infractions?

Education! What is d FG's business with secondary school education which is basic really? What is d point of duplication of efforts in the area of health that we will now be hearing of Federal hospitals and d states will still need to duplicate efforts? Issues of taxation go to d federal high court. Why should a company that produces chivita for instance be located in Bayelsa State and yet d state will have to sue in a federal high court or vice versa when issues of taxation come up? Exactly why must d FG be involved in d relationship b/w a company and d state within which it operates?

I referred you to the US earlier. Do you realise d states own n control their resources ie d individuals who own land where any natural resources are found are automatically owners of those resources? The role of d state is legislate n regulate d extraction, processing, distribution and standards of whatever products as well as taxes. U realise d states have their courts up to supreme courts?

The aim of restructuring will therefore cut off that dependence on the centre, the notion of free money dies and each region will create administratibe units it can cater for. A situation where Kano has 44 LGAs because of mere geographical size and it cannot fund those lgas by itself will not arise. In fact, there will be no need to swell figures during census just to justify more federal allocation. Citizens at municipal or community level will better engage their leaders at those levels because they see they have to be productive and pay their taxes in order to survive. So any hanky panky by their leaders can be addressed because they understand each other clearly as per ethnic similarities.

kidman96:
Yes and no. I don't think there is anywhere in the Nigerian constitution that says they can't. So if a Police man can come to search ur house without warrant I think they can search ur phone without a warrant to. All they need is a probable cause. Our democracy is still very young.

Actually a policeman can kit knock on ur door and search ur house without a warrant. That may only happen if there is clear evidence that during a live chase of some criminal, d person ram into ur premises. In that case am on the spot search for that person may be conducted. Still d police cannot in that process start going through private documents or electronic gadgets cos d human being he might be looking for cannot enter there.

It's just d lawlessness of the society that makes them officers get away with a lot of crap.

arewafederation:
Good morning...

Good morning? That's all u could say? Then u know he speaks d truth bt u are naturally wired d conceal d truth and dispute same no matter how u may look.

seunmsg:
Very brilliant and straight forward interview. The guy made lots of very valid points that can't be disputed. The issue of restructuring for example is a very vague concept that needs to be clearly defined. Is it just about revenue sharing or a total collapse of the current federal structure for a new system?

I am from Ekiti and I can assure you that I will never support a system whereby my people will have to be going to a regional HQ in Ibadan just to get a local school rehabilitated or to get a local road constructed. An Imo person will also never agree to any structure that will yoke him under an Anambra man. So, when we shout restructuring, we should take time to define exactly what we really want.

Like u said, u really don't understand the import of restructuring. If u did u wouldn't toe this line of claiming that a set of people would be 'oppressed' by another within their region and then pose that as a reason to jettison d demand for restructuring.

Elkay3:
This thread is bashful. Make I wait see the bashers...but like seriously dis guy got some point. Or, lemme look well...

Find out d meaning and proper use of the word 'bashful'...