₦airaland Forum

ashjay001:
It does serve d common benefit of all. How many other tribes rear cattle for consumption?

I think d labelling has got u confused, u need to see it as a forest reserve, which has been in existence for ever-Yankari Games Reserve, Borgu GR etc. It is actually a criminal offence to be caught farming or poaching on them, same will apply to d grazing reserves.

Also, they can actually be taxed! There are paths they just have to follow to access those reserves, and as such tax agents will be positioned at d right points. Though, pple will remain pple(look for tax loopholes to avoid paying tax)!

Tribalism is still d main issue, we need to start being objective in our reasoning. The Agric minister recently said we don't even have a figure for the cattles being reared, talkless of trying to tax them. He has also spoken on ranches, hence d imported brazilian grass, but these things don't work overnight, they need time. And pending when ranches will become viable and accepted by d nomads, a solution has to be found for d incessant clashes.

I just wrote all these from objective commonsense and everyday news info.

The solution to the incessant nomad clashes is not this kid-glove, entitled solution. You did not address the legal pitfalls identified in my post. Since when did execution of court judgements require the 'kind permission' of the Minister for Justice?

I said illegal entry into reserved areas are labelled as offences and attendant punishments prescribed. Why doesn't the same bill make provisions for illegal entry/encroachment unto farmlands and dwelling areas of farmers n citizens generally? Is that not the cause of the problems supposedly sought to be cured by this bill?

Is cattle rearing more important than other aspects of agriculture? Why have we not seen any legislative solutions such as mandatory farm areas in every LG, compulsory provision of lands, fertilisers, healthy seeds n cuttings by the government at no cost? We see these in policies which can be ignored by any government as has been done by d current govt in favour of cattle rearing.

If the govt really aims to address these clashes from the root, why have offenders on both sides not been arrested? What provision for reparation and rehabilitation of farmers are captured in this bill? Why is there no adequate protection for farmers and their produce as this bill seeks to provide for cattle rearers?

The FG is overreaching itself because direct intervention on these issues should be the reserve of state/local governments with the FG providing policy and financial support.

There is so much to talk about and yes, the tribal and expansionist inclinations of Hausa-Fulani is what informed this bill. People are bound to be apprehensive and a concerned govt with no ulterior motive will make sure all affected persons are accommodated and their concerns addressed.

Cattle rearing is part of agriculture so why do we need a commission with full civil service rules and even pension benefits for employees? Why is this not left with the Ministry of agriculture to facilitate? This bill has passed second reading, what effort has been made to educate and sensitise the real persons affected by this law who are uninformed and illiterate? How do u expect them to react when, if this law is passed, they wake up to see vast swathes of land marked off, they are told to keep off, maybe paid some peanut compensation then they see herdsmen settling in large numbers? The same enemies now given a right of occupancy because they were forced to evacuate?!

The games reserve like Yankari and co are in few strategic places and not compulsorily in all 36 states. It is not a business venture for profit. These grazing reserves do not fit that description. Cattle are owed by people who are doing business. The reserves ought to be in the natural habitat of the cattle and their handlers because they thrive best there. Fodder and grazing materials will easily be sourced there because of the great agricultural prospects up north. So why vest and exercise powers over all states?

Pidggin:
Gaming reserve indeed, when we have so many homeless people which the govt should be thinking of building low cost houses on any such available land, they prefer to make provisions for Cows instead.

Was it cows that stood under the sun with their PVCs for several hours to vote for this govt? SMH

Nne it will shock you that if a forensic analysis of the ballot papers used in the 2015 presidential elections is carried out, u might find the impression of hooves in place of thumbs on some...

Mynd44:
1. Land use act. (Read up on it)


2. Governments deploy huge funds to build garages for inter/intra-city transport buses why? Because they are important econonic agents.
Beef is an important part of our diet in Nigeria, animal farming is an important part of GDP, a wise government will do its best to make sure that this vital sector is comfortable

You mention "Trading reserves" but the government builds markets and rent out the stalls/shops to traders dont they? Think of a grazing reserve as a market with lock up shops and the herdsmen will pay rent to the government for the use of the space in the same way traders pay for shops in markets built by the government.

3. Tribalism always exposes the shallowness and lack of logical thinking of a lot of people, stay away from it

The Land Use Act provides that “all land comprised in the territory of each State in the Federation are hereby vested in the Governor of that State and such land shall be held in trust and administered for the use and common benefit of all Nigerians”. The Grazing Reserve Commission Bill is in direct contravention of this provision because it does not serve the ‘common benefit’ of all or even a substantial fraction of Nigerians.

The Federal government has no business building markets or bus garages. That is done by state governments who hold land in trust for citizens. That is the responsibility of state and local governments. Bus garages are owned and maintained by owners of the transport companies.

This Grazing Reserve Bill gives power to the proposed commission to establish reserves on lands which it deems fit for grazing purposes. That completely usurps the power of the Governor and is absolutely unconstitutional.

Furthermore, the bill proposes that no judgement against the commission shall be executed without the written permission of the Attorney General sought and obtained. That is a blatant attempt at neutralising the power of the courts because the commission will be an agency under the executive; judgment is given against the executive by a neutral arbiter ie the judiciary and yet, justice cannot be served without permission of the same executive ie d AG/Minister of Justice.

Why all these elaborate attempts at legalising impunity and forceful seizure of ancestral lands belonging to a people just because of cattle rearers? The same law prescribes stiff punishments for unlawful entry into reserved areas but is completely silent on unlawful entry of cattle and their handlers into farmlands and dwelling areas.

The owners of these cattle are affluent people who can well afford to lease and set up standard ranches as proper businesses so why should an instrument of government be deployed to secure and set up grazing reserves for them?

It is the duty of the government to provide enabling environments and business policy but it is way overboard to practically spoon feed a particular set of people. Proceeds from this go into private pockets and d cattle are not owned by government. If they do pay taxes would that be to the FG or State governments? It most likely will be to d government in which any reserve is located so why will the FG exercise power to give out lands which it has no control over or ownership of? If they are going to keep roaming from place to place then how are they properly captured for purposes of taxation and revenue for the states?

You cannot give what you do not have! How is the FG expected to allocate revenue and funds for this? The bill doesn't place any obligation on cattle rearers to contribute towards acquisition of these reserves, no where does it show stipulated rents,taxes or levies to be paid and it is the duty of this commission to acquire and manage the reserves!

This is not tribalism, it is legislative rascality that will either not see the light of day or be perished by the courts whose powers it seeks to whittle down. It is only a recipe for disaster to ride roughshod over the sentiments and belief systems of a group of people.

IRserveMyComent:
poorly written? Ok, but point out any LIES out of it. Nonsense!

He was mimicking those calcified zombies that would normally parrot such lines like a broken gramophone record. You can see he cited a would-be parrot who responded almost immediately as expected.

Sufficiency121:
U enter class beta pickin

Hehehe

Arrogance, rudeness, insensitivity and all similar adjectives have become the norm of this government. This of course is courtesy of the much 'acclaimed' body odour of the president and now Nigerians are forced to bear the stench. Public participation, one of the core pillars of sustainable development and meeting the global sustainable development goals are gone with the wind.

We are now inundated with inept delivery of crass ideas in the name of government policy and of course, that is the CHANGE people voted for. As it stands, the people, whether they like it or not, have no say and are not fit to attempt to demand better participation and contribution in governance. What a shame!

These grazing routes/reserves they seek to push down the throats of Nigerians will be the death of them yet.

Ibime:
As usual, small minded eediots making uninformed comments and ranting up and down. NL moderators do hatchet jobs of promoting nonsense to the front page without fact checking, contributing to the degeneracy that has taken hold of Nigerias media space.

I don't know whether it is Seun's Business Strategy to cheapen public debate, or whether his staff are half baked products of the Nigerian Education system.

This report was released in June 2015.

You can read it here:

http://m.state.gov/md236392.htm

No sir, this is different from the report you have provided a link to. I don't think the mods are as slow as you seem to want to make them out to be. Read what you have provided here and the report which is the subject of this thread, you will see they are quite different though relating to recurrent problems because nothing has really changed between June 2015 and April 2016.

This report is widely covered by lots of our news outlets as well

Thanks and you too...

henry49:
May God bless you, Kenny!

Praktikals:
Mrs. Patrick obahiagbon, your points are noted.

Lol...

Nah, Obahiagbon has the sole honour of failing to communicate due to verbose and archaic grammar not given to regular/precise usage. At least I communicated clearly enough for you to note my points

Freiden:
And who says that letter isn't fake??

Love him or hate him, it won't make him or break him.

That is why u see stuff like 'so called', 'supposed' and 'contrived' in my post. Tells u I consider them all attempts to cover up the real n ugly truth. That certificate and letter are 100% FAKE!

No one cares about making or breaking him, a little more truth with reduced dosage of falsehood and propaganda will do quite nicely.

Kgdavid:
So boko haram was not there before Buhari? corruption and heavy handness was not there before Buhari? if anything have these things not abated under him?

Boko haram, debatable but corruption and heavy handedness? Hell no, they're worse now! In fact the corruption is taking on a latent form where it doesn't quite appear in your face as before but it is happening at such a grand scale with just a few benefiting.

Nothing works and yet hunger becomes more acute with far reduced spending power....

For heavy handedness, contact the military and security agencies for more lessons. The media aides are not left out that baldly tell citizens to go and fight vandals since they're complaining of low power supply.

Lol...funny stuff

Praktikals:
Pele, but 2023 far sha o

I have no interest in the arrival of 2023. If u cared to understand you'd have figured out quite easily that my concern is with all the subterfuge and deliberate contravention of statutory provisions. You'd have also understood that once these things start and aren't checked, perpetrators and current supporters lose the moral right to protest or complain.

The matter has already been ignored and focus is now on leadership, governance and delivery of promises made to Nigerians so what is the point of the effort at bringing a so called letter and certificate which only highlight glaring discrepancies?

The law is meant to protect all and not to be tossed around to suit the whims of a person or people in power.

dukie25:
Post of the day, abeg come chop kiss. (if you're a girl)

I am a girl! Where dem kisses at?

silkytouch:
Lol! Iwu onye uzu-ulo? (Mbano)

Mba...Hehehe...nwa Anambra ka m bu.

Even the so-called letter shows he was still in school and hadn't acquired his WAEC yet. The supposed certificate calls him 'Mohamed Buhari' while the contrived application has him addressing himself as 'Muhammadu Buhari'.

Why that discrepancy on something as fundamental as his name? A very common name borne by almost half of the male islamic adherents...does that result belong to the president as we know him or someone is trying to cover up a glaring breach of the constitution.

Time will expose any and every underhanded tactic employed by anyone to ascend into an undeserved office he's not even qualified for.

MrAdetunjiBayo:
His 65 year old picture on his 18 year old result. This my sai baba na wonder worker! Abeg let him just import cheap Adult diapers from china. My nyash dey leak no be small.

Which 65? He's 74yrs old please o! No draw am go back!

Hia! Na like this we go dey dey? What kind of over sabi is this one? Tufiakwa biko! Inukwa akuko!

Now the real campaign of calumny will start. The one they helped engineer against GEJ will be child's play. I thought he was 'complimented' as doing well by Obama and some deadbeats practically peed their pants at this 'seal of approval'? Even the thinly veiled sarcasm that dripped from Trudeau's, 'Yes indeed' went right over their dumb heads....

Most of these Western and Asian world powers want a slice or more of Africa particularly Nigeria. Our current Nigerian leaders have failed to realise that the strength n survival of Nigeria comes from within and not going cap-in-hand to beg with our soft underbelly exposed to more exploitation.

Buhari n co ought to have engaged Nigerians and raised workable home solutions rather than creating enmity and causing unnecessary unrest. He ought to have made himself available n ready to listen....it never pays to go begging at an absolute disadvantage! You will only be exploited! That exploitation comes because they see your prospects which a dumb begging President cannot see.

We need the investments from developed countries but we shouldn't be at their mercy the way Buhari has made us out to be! Choosing to address political and economic imbalances including giving the people some independence and autonomy in their governance would have gone a long way to already introduce the much desired development. Military might n force can only go so far...if the people do not buy into and own the process of governance, any other effort is superficial at best and will fail.

The history, economics and politics of oil in Nigeria is definitely one of the most intriguing in the world. Oil and its discovery in Nigeria has often been referred to as a “curse” rather than a blessing. The discovery of oil and its extraction has impoverished the country more over the years with the added “curse” of enriching a few tyrants in the military and the political system.

The African Opinion (TAO News) will continue on this not so happy tale of poverty in the midst of plenty another day. However, let us be reminded of recent events in Nigeria, the current democratic president of Nigeria, General Muhammad Buhari (rtd) was sworn in on May 29, 2015 after a national election.

The new president has often been in the news recently for what many Nigerians perceive as shocking and negative news. Nigerians interviewed said they are faced with extreme hardship but are daily bombarded by propaganda akin to the North Korean style. The information minister and other government officials daily report discovery and recovery of billions of stolen money but have never shown the proof to its citizens or the law court, neither has the impact of the “recovered billions of dollars” been felt in the economy.

The latest sad news from the president and “former” dictator is the threat to treat anybody alleged to have tampered with oil pipeline or power installation “like Boko Haram.” If we study carefully the underlying tone and body language of General Buhari, this might be another veiled plan to destroy communities and kill people of the oil producing South under the guise of protecting oil installations.

We hope that this is not an indirect authorization by for the military and police to continue with extra judicial killings of the southern people. We at TAO remind the General Buhari (retired or not), that the whole world is watching. A tacit approval for genocide will not be without consequences. The international Court of Justice, Amnesty International and Human Rights Organizations are watching.

General Buhari on Wednesday was quoted as saying Nigeria will crack down on groups responsible for recent pipeline attacks in the oil-producing Delta region,

“We will deal with them the way we dealt with Boko Haram,”

“I hope this message will reach the vandals and saboteurs who are blowing up pipelines and installations,” he said.

“The government is still being dared, but those who are sensible should have learnt a lesson. Those who are mad, let them continue in their madness.

“I am aware that in the last two weeks, the national grid collapsed a number of times. I hope this message will reach the vandals and saboteurs who are blowing up pipelines and installations.


“We will deal with them the way we dealt with Boko Haram.”

We at TAO just want to remind the General that “blood is thicker than oil”. There must NOT be bloodshed again because of oil.

http://www.africanopinion.com/call-genocide-southern-nigeria-mr-president/

Na real Chibok scam update.

Focused country that knows what it wants including banning some unpleasant and retrogressive thought processes.

It is unconstitutional to have a vacancy in those offices. The affairs of state will not be abandoned because of elections. Handover notes must also be prepared n made so who does that? An interim government that has no idea of what has gone on in the just concluded administration?

Goke7:
so it must pass through 10 towns in the SE before we can believe there is no marginalization, like I said earlier in one of my posts, if am PMB, I won't bother any longer cos nothing seem to please you guys after all even your lawmakers don't care either.

Yes! That is only fair. If things are to be done they should be done right!

This project has met a lot of stonewalls from its conception way back in the 80s. I hope it gets done now so that it will not be said that the FG is all noise with no substance. For this government this has been the case from assumption of power till date. I hope this changes going forward.

Pheals:

I thought sense is free from God how come some didn't have

What's with this your writing style? Really irritating to the eyes...

uduak2016:
I opened this thread for people like you and many others so they can know what's going on....there no stop stations in SE. Absolutely none in Onitsha...it's a lie. The claimed Aba is also a carefully packaged lie...it cuts across Abia on the border with Akwa Ibom some where in the jungle not necessarily in Aba!

Hmmm! I listened to Amaechi's presentation but if your position is the truth then we have a long way to go!

Goke7:
So it must pass through all the houses in aba for you to believe, na was for una o

Understand my point and stop being rude. Why is it just two towns in the entire SE? Meanwhile in other regions you have one or more routes through each state? Is Aba in Abia the only area or city in the whole SE?

I was wondering why the proposed routes touch at least one town or more in the entire SS but only two places Aba n Onitsha in the SE. The SW has this rail line running through both from the Kano route and the proposed Lagos-Calabar route. Why is that? Do other SE states not qualify for rail services?

See how one has to squint to see its infinitesimal passage through Aba but you can see it meandering through Yenagoa-Otuoke-Yenagoa again before it continues.

OnankpaBa:
and your point is?

My point is when someone is allegedly in the wrong and u want to apprehend such an offender, u must protect urself and not run afoul of the law lest u become a repeat offender yourself.

There are set down procedures for arresting and prosecuting offenders or accused persons or suspects. If the govt cannot be trusted to keep its nose mostly clean while sanitising the system then how trustworthy is the process? He who comes to equity must come with clean hands.

The FG, particularly the Executive/Presidency and its security agencies have become a grotesque parody of horrifying errors.

What does it take to obey the laws of the land? What tenable reason is there for outright premeditated murder of Shiites in their hundreds and the continued incarceration of this man? Why couldn't they just charge him to court, have a speedy trial and let justice take its course? What is this constant love for endless detention without arraignment n trial?

Damages have been awarded 2ice now against the EFCC for this same rubbish and tomorrow one scarecrow will come and say the Judiciary is his headache. What nonsense!

I have always advocated the SE turning itself into an economic power bloc that will give it a distinct edge because of the innate 'gift' of commerce, financial savvy of its people and sheer drive to work hard and perform.

Representatives at the NASS must then ensure favourable policies to encourage growth n investment. As an economic powerhouse and with stronger bargaining power, it becomes easier to join forces with like minded people esp our brothers. It becomes easier to press home demands and secure better autonomy to operate and function.

Our governors and relevant stakeholders need to sit up and take care of these issues! We've been cast adrift too long,it's time to consolidate and run!