₦airaland Forum

ilobasama:
Do you know this instances you are giving is just a few cases just like the insurgency disturbed regions, outside that, where else are there cases of rampant killings and maiming

Oh! There are lots of reasons! Besides if u read the op u will see that the insurgency/insecurity is the major reason cited so what else do u want? Still there are lots of people that detest Lagos for instance, because it is too congested. There are Christians who will not want to go to a Muslim dominated area where u cannot freely practise ur religion for fear u and ur church being burned or just being harassed. Some do not like the overly wet and rainy weather down South. Some may love agriculture but will avoid places like Plateau, Benue or Taraba before fulani herdsmen will rape/murder them at their farms! Unless there is a good economic reason as mentioned earlier, no one should be posted to a place where they cannot give their best or be comfortable. I still maintain that it should be voluntary or choices be limited to geopolitical zones of origin/residence.

AlPeter:
why didn't the Obasanjo threaten other tribes? Maybe it is because other tribes were not arrogant and disrespectful in the manner they show their support for Agbaje while the Ibos were running all over.

U see the problem! First we are referring to the Oba of Lagos and not Obasanjo. Secondly, who decides what qualifies as respect? How will someone show that they support someone other than by coming out en-masse to show support? What do u mean by disrespectful or arrogant please? Did the Igbos break a law by supporting Agbaje? Who are u or the Oba to demand respect from law-abiding citizens of Nigeria whom u did not extend any form of social welfare or charity to? Are they beholden to the Oba? Do they not pay their taxes and go about their businesses like other Lagosians? Just explain what respect and humility u feel the Igbos owed the Oba if not to bow to his wish and vote his choice? Is it now the place of the Oba to decide whom Lagosians should vote for? Please just explain.

Beetroot:
This is not a wise decision.Corpers would automatically flock to economically viable states and overburden the existing infrastructure.

Why then were those states created if they are not economically viable? It is then the duty of the govt to make all states fit for habitation or collapse them! Why do they have a claim to federal allocation if they are not going to be 'economically viable'?

ilobasama:
You are the one that talked about choice. Since the program is still on, then just go with the initial choice of choosing to blend/associate or not

No, no..that's twisting the facts. Choices are informed by circumstances not just because. It could be simply because the ways of some places are alien to a corps member or that such areas are known to kill and maim at will, or they are so notoriously undeveloped and lacking in basic amenities or that the weather is unfriendly. Why waste one precious way just t choose whether to blend or not? There is no point going there if the corper will be uncomfortable, fearful or plain unwelcome.

IVORY2009:
If dis writeup is true, d whole essence of setting up the National Youth Service Program would hv been defected, reasons is dat, students would now be concertrated on some geographical areas of the country, whereby neglecting other parts of the country and the program is meant to bring about unity across all geopolitical regions.
E.g. I am certain dat 75% of students would want to choose Lagos ==> Abuja ==> Port Harcourt, any of those hot cities for deir primary assignment.

I believe people will be more 'selfless' in their service when they are among their people or a place of their choosing. Certainly not a place where u are likely to be a victim of death for just about any reason simply because u are a Southern Christian identified by khaki uniform.

oweman:
Those that died 2011.were.marjorly those.who collected money for electing riging meanwhile anyone that did or atempt to rig election is not fit to live should be frf to hyenas in UI zoo .

That is the reason why no self-respecting corps member will want to be posted there if he/she is not originally from such areas. You have told a lie based simply on indoctrination cos u can't think for urself. Because they did not allow underage voters and those evil among u to steal Jonathan's mandate u unleashed sorrow and pain on families! Assuming I follow ur very false assertion that they collected money to rig elections why weren't they handed over to the authorities for prosecution? Is that not how civilised societies function? So rigging warrants death? God forbid a continued union with u and those that reason like u! Blood lust is all u live for and u do not even have respect for the dead that is why u will release ur fingers and type what u just did in the most incoherent manner possible too!

The subject matter is NYSC posting and all u saw to do was attempt to justify demonic characteristics of killing and destruction of young corps members by your people! You are the one fit to be fed to hyenas in the UI Zoo!

ilobasama:
You are posted to a place but never forced to blend or unite with anyone. Nysc never forces you to blend or associate with anyone.

Anyway, different views from us all.

The primary aim of the NYSC is to foster national unity. That is why I have said that unity is a conscious decision. The NYSC has not achieved that singular aim going by the Nigeria we see today despite attempts at an appearance of unity. If citizens don't accept and inculcate unity whether on the part of corps members or on the part of host communities where the corpers are posted to then what is the point?

ilobasama:
I don't know about you, but I learnt a lot from this scheme, we cant continue to be in our comfort zone and expect to make a difference in today's world.

Like I said, choice. U can drag a horse to the stream but u cannot force it to drink. If a person refuses to blend or unite with others whether by choice or because the people are hostile and known to kill for sport then u cannot force them. It should be voluntary or people should be allowed to choose.

Get past the so called name-calling and spiteful words and listen to the message. It might help.

laudate:
I beg to disagree with you here. Those spiteful messages are counter-productive, and have become a double-edged sword. The only thing it has succeeded in doing, is to antagonise the non-Igbo against the Biafran cause. You cannot call a people's homeland a zoo, and expect them to be sympathetic to your cause. You cannot keep using invectives and hate-filled speech to describe other non-Igbo groups, and think they would not react to you with disgust and disdain.

The same kind of propaganda being spewed out by Nnamdi Kanu is reminiscent of the type that was peddled prior to the civil war and even during the war. Innocent Igbo folks believed everything they were told, and it hastened their demise as they marched to the war front.

Such similar spiteful speeches fuelled tribalism and hate towards the Igbo in the North, during 1966, which led to the progrom, after the first coup in which leaders from other ethnic groups were massacred. Instead of learning from the mistakes of the past the new generation of after-1970 Igbo are repeating it.

May God help us all.

Point of correction, IPOB is one with the service of Nnamdi Kanu. The 'other arm' u refer to is the MASSOB which is led by Uwazurike. It will definitely be more formidable if both join forces with the unalloyed truth and no compromise. That is the reason Nnamdi speaks against MASSOB the way he does cos they have been compromised to an extent. That is why the raw, unrefined truth will prevail and swallow up all others at the end of the day. Nnamdi Kanu really ignites passion and that is way better than the lacklustre show MASSOB has been putting on these past years.

OfoIgbo:
Maybe you are not aware of my standpoint vis-a-vis Kanu's IPOB effort. I need to be aware of a clear and achievable roadmap from Kanu's camp before I can say that I endorse their efforts. Not that my endorsement matters.
I have been made aware of another IPOB faction that is currently embarking on legal moves against the Nigerian government. This same IPOB faction along with their legal arm have established links with the United Nations.
The way I see it this other IPOB faction has a better and clearer roadmap to achieving Biafra peacefully, however they lack the publicity machinery of Kanu's faction.
If both factions were to merge, their message will be unstoppable and has the capability to douse the unnecessarily spiteful messages that emanate from Radio Biafra.
But make no mistakes about it, the spiteful messages have helped Biafrans to be a little more passionate about the struggle, so it is serving a purpose, but the disadvantage of it is that the messages will linger long after its purpose has been achieved.

I gathered that at some point the other IPOB faction was romancing with APC. If that is the case, I believe the Kanu faction has helped in ensuring that that madness was not allowed to take root.

Getting to your other points of why Biafra lost, it is quite difficult to think Biafra lost the way things are going. Biafran movements are waxing stronger and stronger by the day such that it may not not be accurate to say they lost. They may have lost a battle in 1970, but the war carries on, and the eventual winner will be decided in the not too distant future.

Now, France did not provide Biafra with one hundredth of the help that Britain offered to Nigeria, their did not last all through the duration of the war, and they only supplied light arms with virtually no warships to counter blockades or heavy equipments to tackle mechanised invasion.

Most of the points you listed still have a lot to do with the lack of military hardware, to either mount sustained offensives or repel naval blockades or push back ground incursions and invasions or protect farmlands occupied by enemy forces

Again, u have joined PDP in this issue. Look and see that this thread is the opinion of one person. The PDP did not make the statement or issue any to that effect. All they have asked for basically is non-interference. Besides the Op said nullification will mark the beginning of the separation of Nigeria. How is separation synonymous with war?

For Lagos, Oba was clear, that if PDP/Agbaje won then he and his descendants would drown in the lagoon and so on. There was no need for violence till after the elections which would most likely have been if PDP had defeated APC.

I just wonder still what justification he had cos Agbaje is as Yoruba and Lagosian as Ambode. Yorubas supported him just as some Igbos supported Ambode. U and I know for sure that it is not only Igbos that voted Agbaje in Lagos, so why did he not also threaten other Yorubas and other tribes that would vote Agbaje? What was he thinking or imagining?

Goke7:
so if both parties were involved, why is the pdp issuing threats of war if the tribunal doesn't go their way? and as for the lagos elections, was their war and bloodshed during the elections like it happened in rivers to buttress your point?

Kolade354:
Shut-it there gurl and save ya strength..........Rivers belongs to PDP, The o.p is just stvpid by trying to create tension!!!

U did not have any call to tell me to shut it. I aired my view without being rude and u should do same. Ur opinion is ur business. If u are going to respond to my post then u do so courteously and decently or steer clear.

And there u go laying irregularities solely at the feet of the PDP! As far as I am concerned both parties were equally complicit! My take is let the tribunal do its job fairly. If there is a nullification then the APC, being in charge of the FG and security personnel should not attempt to harass or intimidate citizens. Let them make their choices.

I just get irritated at Lagos elections because it is an APC state by all standards and Ambode was already slated to win yet a whole Oba had d immaturity and crassness to attack a particular group because he had an anointed candidate! When did electoral choice become a crime? Anyway, that one is subject for another discourse.

Goke7:
the question I keep asking is if rivers and akwa-ibom were really pdp strongholds as you are insinuating, why do we have all the irregularities there during the elections? My take is this if the rivers and akwaibom elections were very peaceful like we had in other states, the pdp would have won but by a small margin like the way apc won pdp in lagos by a small margin but the level of immaturity and impunity from the pdp became the problem, which they may likely to pay for it now and no matter of threats can hinder true justice.

The high level of political intolerance in the ss and se regions would continue to a problem until they grow up.

What is the aim sef? You don't unite people by force! If they did not wish to be there or be joined with some others and they are sent there against their will, they will only endure and disappear once they can so why the pretence? Nobody likes to leave their comfort zone unless for identified economic reasons. Not to talk of a place like Nigeria where corps members are easy targets because to a large extent those posted to the North are likely Southerners and Christians so some idiots will pick them off easily.

Youth service should be voluntary or graduates should be posted within their geopolitical zones so everyone stays in their areas. The choice to go outside one's zone should be a choice and not for cosmetic national unity. Imagine those that were killed in 2011! Where was the unity?

DaBullIT:
HEhehehehe

Empty threats as usual

One state will cause seperation of Nigeria ?

Una no dey think at all ?

It starts from somewhere...could just be anywhere. APC should know that they did not have much on ground to sway such PDP strongholds like Rivers State. The best cause of action would have been to chill, develop their structures more in those areas they had the most defeat, showcase why they are a better option and then consolidate victory at the polls in 2019. It still is a matter of the choice of people and u know as well as I do that Nigerians are a mostly sentimental lot. All it takes is a conviction that a certain person or group is a collective enemy. They (APC) should not be expecting to clear it all in one fell swoop.

I just hope the tribunal is allowed to carry out its duties unfettered.

bolaino:
Reflecting soberly on all what you've said, I want to commend you, for being thorough in your explanations, and if Nnamdi Kanu had tried to be civil like you have been he won't be in the problem he is right now, but unfortunately, his fate has been sealed, My condolences.

You have got some nerve arrogating unto urself the authority to decide a man's fate. Why do u expect ur idea of civility? In the face of all d threats against Biafrans where have u n ur cohorts been civil? U must imagine u actually have some form of entitlement! Well, Nnamdi Kanu is not alone. He has told no lies...u just have a problem with his form of address and that's ur prerogative. Do wat u have to do and he will do what he has to! I do not think he will be a sitting duck though.

U feel u have the right to threaten and kill a people for mere sport and they ought to sit back and take it in a civilised way? U have another thought coming...

bolaino:
Yes Thank You for Your questions, and I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge, Yes, The Indigenous people of Biafra have a right to self determination, I won't argue with that, and it is not criminal, but what is criminal and Treasonable, is the way they are currently going about it, The Biafran agitators have been threatening innocent and law abiding Nigerians with Death and anarchy, promising to kill Nigerians any where they are found, and this are steps in the wrong direction, and to add to that, the world is changing, and the More United a Country is, the better it's chances of surviving in this new world, if you carry out a survey on most of the Countries who have caved in to seccesionists, you'll discover that it's either they are still fighting, or they are living miserably, and I believe if the Ibo people should tow the same line, a similar fate will befall them.

First, I do not think anyone should be bothered about how Biafrans fare when on their own. I believe modalities are and will constantly be in place to co-ordinate their existence.
Secondly, on ur assertion that the more united a people are the better, I need to tell you that d ethnic identities and nations that make up Nigeria are too distinct and strong to ever achieve such supposed unity. Now at this point someone will try to point out how diverse the US is for instance but they fail to recognise certain points. The union of the US is voluntary and not forced like Nigeria. Again, the system of government allows individual states to maintain their individuality, manage their resources and contribute to the unity on agreed terms. That is also not the case in Nigeria.

The SE and SS have always demanded for regionalism but that is always thrown out because certain regions have allotted the status of majority to themselves to the detriment of others. The SE is limited to 5 states while other regions have 6 and even 7. That automatically reduces their representation.

The religious differences also come into play here and will in fact force anyone to rethink continued existence under same conditions. For instance why are churches always destroyed in the North? Has that happened anywhere down South? Why would a caricature of Mohammed in Denmark warrant d death of Igbos in the North? Why would d election victory of a Southerner cause the deaths of Igbos n Christians in the North? Why would an Oba threaten d lives and livelihoods of a particular group of people in Lagos because of their political choice in a supposedly democratic country? Are these few and many more instances not treasonable offences?

Now, about the way they are going about it. Deep-seated pain and anger cannot be ruled out. Some here and out there always say why can't they let go and I ask, if they hadn't believed in 'one Nigeria ' would they spread out like they do? Have the Igbos ever exhibited violence against any tribe in other parts of Nigeria and in Igbo land? The right thing to do would be to call for a conference or negotiation of sorts to hear and address grievances but no, they are being arrested and intimidated.

Until recent times MASSOB has been on about Biafra peacefully without any 'hate words' or treasonable threats. Have they been allowed to function freely? Yet their activities aren't criminal as u affirmed. People were going about peacefully and they were shot, some killed. U should expect threats and retaliation when they do occur cos they are human too.

Take a moment, put yourself in the Igbo man's shoes and tell me what you think. Whose crimes are worse? Who has even committed crimes? They haven't killed o! Yet a contract is out on Nnamdi Kanu according to u.
Again, being alone and separate from Nigeria is no crime.

Galacious1:
I've several comments of Biafra after GEJ lost the election. U guys don't accept defeat ni?

Honestly respond to these...is Biafra new? Did it start today? So why are u tying it to GEJ'S concession to GMB? Even if it started today is it illegal or criminal? Is it an offence? Where exactly lies the problem?

bolaino:
There's a saying that those who the gods want to kill, they first make mad. Nnamdi kanu is a mad man, and he has being destined to be killed, either by his British handlers or in the hands of Patriotic Nigerians, but either way, the gods have marked him for death, hence his current madness. It is only a mad man that would call his fellow human beings animals and refer to them as people living in a zoo, these are not rantings of a sane man, but someone who the gods have made mad because they want to kill him, I pity the millions of Ibo people supporting him and his quest for Biafra, this proves that the Ibo people in Nigeria are not a forgiving people, and that they would rather die than forgive, and it is because of this reason that I am in full support of the Government of Buhari in dealing with their ongoing acts of insurrection. Nnamdi Kanu is currently being sponsored by foreign Governments, and the British being one of them, with their American Counterparts giving him all the moral backing he needs to continue his Crazed rantings of killing Innocent Nigerians, But not to worry, Nnamdi Kanu is just a pawn in the chess board, he is of no consequence, because he will be dead soon, it is the gullible millions of Ibo people falling for his antics that I pity, The Ibo people can not handle the things that are coming next, and the painful thing is that whether they chose to accept it or not Nigeria will remain One, they will be forced to accept one Nigeria whether they like it or not. The Ibo people of Nigeria can not set Nigeria backwards, No, The devil wants to use them to set us back, but it will not work. The world is about to fight a world war, and Nigeria does not need a civil war that would make us vulnerable to foreign aggression, so to all the Biafran agitators in Nigeria, be careful. Do not allow the devil to use you. Long Live The Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Few questions for u: Is the quest for secession and self-determination illegal or criminal? Is there a right to self-determination? How does separation from Nigeria set Nigeria back? Must there be a war before a people who have decided to go their way actually do so? Kindly answer these questions without rude or nasty words.

Is there a problem? Did u even read properly? Did my comment suggest any tribal or religious view? And even if it did is it not a reality in Nigeria today? Has any miracle occurred to make things look different? I was charitable enough not to make any allegation until there is evidence to that effect so what exactly is your problem?

It is rather people like u that shy away from the truth! Call a spade a spade and stop attempting to me more Catholic than the Pope! Religion and tribalism are core factors that affect/colour almost any decision in Nigeria whether u like it or not. It is unfortunate but unavoidable cos we have been identified by our different tribes n religions from day one. Speak or acknowledge d truth and don't keep hiding under the sand. It is actually people like u that destroy Nigeria with ur half-truths and pretences.

BY1434:
People like you who always se evrything from myopic view of tribal and religion are the main problem and reason why we are where we are today

Whether you liike it or not,this country will be great again

organicfoods:
Your head get plenty oil!

Lol...thank u!

kraftykc:
True, but some countries with exceedingly close ties to others may not need to have missions in both. One in London can serve the whole UK etc.

Can u imagine the mammoth crowd and inconvenience that will be visited on the London office by Nigerians in Scotland, Wales and Ireland? It will be a nightmare!

It does appear a cost effective measure but I hope it doesn't portray a diplomatic snub/faux pas. Real diplomacy must be applied here. Inefficiency and poor work ethics are the problem of those working for the Nigerian govt. That should be dealt with so that all foreign commissions and government offices generally are properly and efficiently run.

Those that ask Nigerians to revert to neighbouring countries, at what cost and borne by whom?

I will reserve comments on possible religious and tribal undertones till I see what plans there are.

Unless there is proof to show that efforts were made to source appointees from various areas and none more competent than the ones currently appointed were found, Reno Omokri is only playing to the gallery.

What are the criteria for screening would-be appointees for competence and merit levels? If we're going to suddenly start preaching merit while disregarding federal character then it must be across board. It must also be simultaneous as well to remove the appearance of cherry-picking. Buhari and this new-found preacher called Reno Omokri must be clear on the fact that u cannot claim competence for political appointments while employment is on the basis of Federal Character.

The federal character doesn't still fully check favouritism during recruitment how much more when those at the helm of various organisations n parastatals are centred from one region!

People should be truthful! We are not one in the actual sense of the word! That we are under one name doesn't make us one. People will look out for those they can identify with esp by language and religion. When u try to compare with the G7 nations for instance, u find that they have way more in common with more cohesion than here where we've been divided along ethnic lines since time immemorial. If those lines will be blurred it is a gradual process not by forcing it down the throats of others.

It is either wholly done or not at all. Pretense is what kills us! It takes good leadership to be able to balance appointments to properly include/represent all regions while getting the best of appointees from all regions. The inability to do so is a hallmark of failure! Nigerians may be smacked down, choose to ignore the obvious or just try to be patient but the truth is what it is.

Unless there is proof to show that efforts were made to source appointees from various areas and none more competent than the ones currently appointed were found, Reno Omokri is only playing to the gallery.

What are the criteria for screening would-be appointees for competence and merit levels? If we're going to suddenly start preaching merit while disregarding federal character then it must be across board. It must also be simultaneous as well to remove the appearance of cherry-picking. Buhari and this new-found preacher called Reno Omokri must be clear on the fact that u cannot claim competence for political appointments while employment is on the basis of Federal Character.

The federal character doesn't still fully check favouritism during recruitment how much more when those at the helm of various organisations n parastatals are centred from one region!

People should be truthful! We are not one in the actual sense of the word! That we are under one name doesn't make us one. People will look out for those they can identify with esp by language and religion. When u try to compare with the G7 nations for instance, u find that they have way more in common with more cohesion than here where we've been divided along ethnic lines since time immemorial. If those lines will be blurred it is a gradual process not by forcing it down the throats of others.

It is either wholly done or not at all. Pretence is what kills us!

nwadiuko1:
thanks dear, an accountant?

No, lawyer

nwadiuko1:
I think I heard that word "fiduciary" in an auditing class back then.....does it mean statutory?

Fiduciary is basically a legal/ethical relationship of trust where a party is placed in a position to hold n control money or power in trust for d other party/parties. In such a scenario, the party holding anything in trust on behalf of another is expected to act in good faith n for d benefit of d one on whose behalf he acts or exercises power.

Like some wise person said, Nigeria has a date with the truth and that day of reckoning is coming. Until then, people will keep hiding their heads in the sand and proclaiming lies as truth. Soon enough...very soon.

It is alarming that some here actually have a reason to support and encourage this despotic arrangement/system of governance rather than advocate for decentralization and resource control. A union must be organic with the consent of all parties involved and sacrosanct terms of engagement spelled out! Any other thing is a recipe for disaster and will only be managed for so long. Soon...we will have no option but to accept the truth for what it is and hopefully, it would not be too late.

When people keep asking what benefit came to the people of those appointed or elected into offices especially now that GMB is intentionally favouring his region I shake my head in wonder. It is Soludo I blame...he's the one that brought such reasoning into the public domain.

Now, in a country like Nigeria, until anything different starts to happen, favouritism is the name of the game. It is the more reason why appointments should be spread evenly so that the ripple effect during employment will also spread out reasonably. Igbokwe that has suddenly forgotten his roots and blood, if he is asking what those that were in office before have done to better the lots of their people I wonder whether he has forgotten that this same North has been in power for more years than any other region since independence. Yet the region is still the poorest and most backward by any standard. So what justifies the continued stupidity?
Instead of speaking the truth and demanding the right thing to be done he is trying to be more Catholic than the Pope!

This is a democracy and Nigeria is a joint project for as long as all component units co-exist under one name. Until anything different comes into play then it must be on record that no region has monopoly of 'integrity'. It is the hallmark of a great leader to be able to balance his appointments across board with the best and most efficient people. Lazily sticking to a region because that is his stamping ground only highlights GMB'S retrogressive mentality.

Whynotthetruth:
Anya gi o piii? I bu onye primary 1? I bu learner? Just were anya ime mmuo kuo the woman anya from one side, I ghota ka okwu m si kwuru oto ka ciga

Hewu! Nnem oma o! Lol...ya dibazie Onye nkuzi nke mgbede...lol
Okwo nkea na kwu oto ka ciga...lol! Ochi a togbugom nga m no! Jesu meere gi ebere!

Whynotthetruth:
Gbaya nkiti...ihe o mechakwara oge nke ya...

Lol...kee k'isi mara?

Toosure70:
when will our govt finally ban these okadas

When will the government also ban trailers and all vehicles? Afterall they get into accidents everyday especially with tankers falling over every other day. In this instance d trailer lost control and then u ask when okada will be banned!
Is banning the solution?