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capatainrambo:
ceaze dey worry the mumu police

I have never seen a Christian terrorist
I have not seen a pagan terrorist
I have never seen Buddhist, atheist, Hindu terrorist


we know the sect of peaceful people that re tagged terrorist
they want ipob to share the name terrorists with them
foolish lots

Benekruku:



Whoever told you money can't buy everything does not know where to shop...

SonOfEl:
Another dude with inferiority syndrome spotted.

Flora Nwapa - first female (and best selling) author
Chioma Ajunwa - first female and single Olympic gold medalist
Rita Dominic - Presently the most awarded actress
Onyeka Owenu - first best selling female singer

We are ready for you anytime..... Keep it coming...

Intellect20:
Shove your afonja list up your behind. I don't trust you lots anymore. Thats how you people lied for decades of having the pioneer professors in Nigeria. Lo and behold, when serious research was done, it was found that all first, pioneer professors in top SW universities were Igbos.

Intellect20:
In Biafraa, women are treated like men and posses just as equal rights! Not the same in Arewa and Oduwanikistan!

DirewolfofStark:
They were ALL present. As John explained in 1 John 1, the gospel of the disciples was the evidence of their own eyes and ears and hands. It was not hearsay or second hand evidence:

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.


All the more reason why the illiterate arabian pedophile cannot be relied upon as a credible source for Christ's life for the simple fact that HE WASN'T THERE.

DirewolfofStark:
Why would they not be able to give accounts when they witnessed it all? The disciples were only absent at the trial of Jesus before the Jewish High Council (The Sanhedrin) That was where Peter made his famous three times denial. At the actual crucifixion, they were in the crowd:

John 19: 26

…Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother and her sister, as well as Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, here is your son.” Then He said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” So from that hour, this disciple took her into his home and cared for her as his mother

DirewolfofStark:
As Mark 15: 43 shows Joseph was also an important political figure in Jerusalem:


Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent Council member [/b]who himself was waiting for the kingdom of God, boldly went to Pilate to ask for the body of Jesus.

In the body of Christ there are many different duties and responsibilities. As Paul put it in 1st Corinthians 12:30:


[b]Do we all have the gift of healing? Do we all have the ability to speak in unknown languages? Do we all have the ability to interpret unknown languages? Of course not!

Joseph had his own role to play in the Kingdom that had nothing to do with writing.

DirewolfofStark:
And who was Joseph of Arimathea? Joseph was one of the disciples. John 19:38 makes this clear:

Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jewish leaders. With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away.

DirewolfofStark:
You mean the same disciples that took the body off the cross? The same ones who washed it and prepared it for burial? The same ones who had the opportunity of examining the wounds up close? I shouldn't believe them, but I should believe an illiterate Arabian pedophile "prophet" who advised his followers to drink camel urine?

DirewolfofStark:
Jesus's words to his disciples when they saw him after his resurrection:

Luke 24:39

"Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see--for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

DirewolfofStark:
They have pierced my hands and feet

In other words, Metatarsals and Metacarpals. Not the ulna and the tibia. Also the Romans were in the habit of tying the arms of the crucified to the horizontal beam of the cross with corded ropes to make sure their bodies would not fall off the cross after they lost consciousness.

DirewolfofStark:
They have pierced my hands and feet

In other words, Metatarsals and Metacarpals. Not the ulna and the tibia. Also the Romans were in the habit of tying the arms of the crucified to the horizontal beam of the cross with corded ropes to make sure their bodies would not fall off the cross after they lost consciousness.

DirewolfofStark:
The nails were not driven in at the tibia but in BETWEEN the metatarsal bones on his feet. The bones on the feet and the hands are widely spaced. And so the only part of his body that would have been damaged would be soft tissue, tendons and muscle. It is theoretically possible for the bones to remain intact.

DirewolfofStark:
John 19 vs 36: Now these things happened so that the Scripture would be fulfilled: “Not one of His bones will be broken.”

The prophecy of David in Psalm 34:20 was fulfilled in John 19: 36.

Psalm 34: 20 He keeps all his bones, Not one of them is broken....

So how can the fulfillment of prophecy be an inconsistency? Or is the muslim mind too slow to grasp such a fundamental concept?

DirewolfofStark:
What scripture? Provide Chapter and Verse.

DirewolfofStark:
He said: "If it be possible let this cup pass from me but nevertheless, thy will be done

Of course he was in agony because the prophecy said that Christ had to "suffer". It wasn't enough for him to die for our sins. If death was the only requirment for salvation then all Christ would have to do was to ask the Roman soldiers to stab him with a sword and kill him. But death was not the only requirement. He also had to suffer. The scriptures are very clear about this:

Luke 9: 22

"The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life"


Jesus had to face the daunting task of paying the price for all of humanity as a living sacrifice, and yet he overcame his fears and fulfiled the scriptures.

How you can equate Jesus overcoming death with Muhammad being afraid of a mere eclipse of the sun is baffling. It is typical of the the lack of intelligence I've encountered from most muslims.

DirewolfofStark:
There are at least 5 references to Jesus crucifixion made by historians who were alive at the time the event took place:

1. The Roman Historian Tacitus wrote about Jesus crucifixion.


2. Pliny The Younger was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. Pliny also spoke about Jesus crucifixion in his writings.

3. The Jewish historian Josephus Flavius writes extensively on the crucifixion of Jesus.

4. The Babylonian Talmud references Jesus Christ's crucifixion.

5. Lucian of Samosata was a 2nd century Greek Writer who also mentioned the crucifixion in his writings.


All these people were not Christians so they had no motivation to make up lies on behalf of Christianity. The only logical explanation why so many different people would agree that the event took place was because it actually happened.

Muhammad on the other hand was an illiterate who lived about 700 years after the crucifixion so only an idi.ot would believe the words of an illiterate over those of credible historical sources.

DirewolfofStark:
So you now accept he was on the cross? I thought the muzzies have always denied that Jesus was crucified. And yet you are willing to accept his crucifixion in the name of taqiyya? You guys are dumber than I thought.

DirewolfofStark:
Jesus was afraid? The same Jesus who said in John 10:18:

The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.

This is the person you said was afraid?

In any event, thanks for admitting that Jesus died on the Cross for your sins. Most Muslims persist in the stu.pid claim that he never died.

championeh:
Torres and Diego Simeone

DirewolfofStark:
I notice you "cleverly" tried to hide the full hadith because you know exactly what it says.

Let me produce the hadith for you in full:

Narrated Abu Musa: The sun eclipsed and the Prophet got up, being afraid that it might be the Hour (i.e. Day of Judgment). He went to the Mosque and offered the prayer with the longest Qiyam, bowing and prostration that I had ever seen him doing. Then he said, "These signs which Allah sends do not occur because of the life or death of somebody, but Allah makes His worshipers afraid by them. So when you see anything thereof, proceed to remember Allah, invoke Him and ask for His forgiveness."[Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 18, Number 167]

You're either ignorant or you think your taqiyya tactics will work on me. I'm not gullible about Islams numerous shortcomings. I know them like the back of my hand.

drakeli:
No, but in your own version of Jesus. Not the Christian Jesus our Lord. Me too, I believe in Mohammed my workplace colleague. Not in your lie lie Mohammed.

MakeWeTalk:
So you can appreciate the liberty in Jesus.

As you notice OLD testament replaced by the NEW.

MakeWeTalk:
What part of the bible is that in?

Old testament, in the new testament its different.

Is it in the New Testament or not?

MakeWeTalk:
My brother no mind them.

This video shows how Adeboye does his fake prophecies and shows how he lied about handkerchief healings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_7RflrL2nk




The quoran declared that the birth of Jesus is a miracle.

(Quran 2:87)
"And We gave unto Jesus, son of Mary, clear miracles"

The quoran again say's that Jesus healed.

Quoran 3: 49
I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead



True the Christian God never said we are to condemn anybody.

The islamic god actually commands moslems not to take Christains & jews as friends.

Surah 5:51
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;

The quoran commands moslems to fight unbelievers.

SURA 9:29 F9:29 against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day.

SURA 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Who are the unbelievers to the moslems?
They are Christians .

Surah 5
72 "Unbelievers are those that say:'God is the Messiah, the son of Mary."
73 "Unbelievers are those that say: 'God is one of three.

So you can see that it's allah that commands to condemn us.
This alone proves that islam is not an abrahamic faith.

If it were it would love the children of Abraham.

Neatboy:
Not at all!

Neatboy:
Whether herbalist or not can an average imam do what they do? I just wanted to know why prophet Mohammed didn't transfer his spiritual power listed above to his followers? Did he take it along to the grave? I believe that power, whether spiritual or not needs to be transfered for the betterment and nourishment of this religion via his disciples. Cause a lot of Muslims are running to churches for miracles, and they are getting it. If an Imam or Alfa can pray and heal someone then why should Muslims be running helter-skelter? My Muslim friends and brothers always run to a white garment church(celestial church) whenever the going gets tough...

realmindz:
And what proof do u have that Jesus did any of these?

Neatboy:
Why are muslims not performing the same miracles and wonders like their prophet? But their Christian counterparts are still performing same miracles that their own prophet did. I am just curious. But please, if you can't give me good answer don't criticise me. Attack the question not my person...