Bunch of hateful bigotic people...

They will forever HATE ANYTHING & EVERYTHING Igbo.

Instead of them to hustle for their happiness, they rather spend all their waking moments HATING EVERYTHING & ANYTHING Igbos.

Their heads automatically gets knocked up once it has to do with Igbos, and they will NEVER EVER think like human beings.

Hateful Bigotic Retards.

Smoothie01:
The truth is most ethnic groups do not want to be at the fore-front of wateva revolution that could happen in Nigeria, they'd rather hope that things fall into place and knowing Nigeria too well, they'll be hoping for a long time.

At the same time, no group would want to remain in Nigeria if/when the Igbos seceeds successfully....this implies that every group hope to benefit from the struggle they never supported in the first place ....No doubt we all want a big change, We have to give Kanu some credit, imperfect though he is....Look around, Everyone seems to be discussing the country's structure.
If any group really want to get smtin from this country, they should focus on getting it and not wasting time finding faults in others....In a honest business venture, u focus on how to be sucessful and better than competition and not on spoiling the image of competition....
I av my reservations about kanu's approach buh it's not as bad as wah his critics paint it to be....and the reason is most pple are used to talking trash about Igbos and getting away with it...Now they can't do that no more

Thank you for this.

For years, they had unrestrained outpouring of their HATEFUL heart contents on Igbos and got away with it. Now, the young Igbos won't allow such any longer without crowding the ignorant fools out with their own hate. That's why you start hearing such useless narratives - Igbos/Igbos likes insults, the only thing Igbos/Igbos do is insults, etc. The fools only want to dish out what they can't handle.

To them, hating Igbos, trash-talking Igbos is normal to them, they can't understand why Igbos are refuting their useless narratives and stating the truth as-is. Social media has really helped Igbos tell their stories and haters can't stand it nor do anything about it any longer unlike when the control all advertising agencies in Nigeria and determine the kind of stories media houses publish before they can get patronage in advert sales/placement.

@post
Urhobo is not & will never be Biafra.

Leave IPOB and whatever they are doing wrong.

Focus on your people and do whatever you feel its right for them.

Choose your strategy however you like.

Trust me, NO IGBO will come and tell you - it's right or wrong.

Enjoy your peace and allow Igbos theirs.

Stop this your obsession & useless long trash about Igbos/Igbos.

Grow up and choose your cause for the betterment of yours.

Thank you.

tollyboy5:

It seems your reply make sense small but like seriously what other region are southern region want is restructuring only SE want to secede and they don't want to go alone so it would be hard to do that the best thing is to join others. restructuring is a way of seceding in future if there is a need

Why not just fight for whatever you want and believe in being it restructuring, regional autonomy, etc. and stop all these nonsensical emotional blackmail.

Focus on your region as Igbos are focusing on what they want without dragging you in.

BTW, most Igbos now want a full-fledged Biafran Republic of Igboland (& [b]maybe [/b]willing AwkaCross neighbours if and only if they accept to vote in a referendum otherwise ONLY IGBOLAND is enough for us).

EazyMoh:

1. All the schools put together can not accomodate up to 10,000 students! Thats like less than 0.1% of the out of school kids in the north.
2. While GEJ Almajiri schools are a laudable good idea, but executing it was all politics. While the schools were grossly inadequate, the running of the schools was left in the hands of state governments. And GEJ and his administration moved on as if they had solved Almajiriship problem in the north.

Now, this is the kind of lies and misinformation that should not be allowed to see the light of day.

You are condemning everything about GEJ's initiative in the provision of schools to some children in the North but you carefully did not mention the Governors in charge of those areas.

First, provision of primary & secondary education are the sole responsibility of the State & Local government, nothing concerns FG in that area. Please consult your constitution for more information.

Secondly, Peter Obi made so much investment in Education in Anambra State during his stay as the Executive Governor of Anambra State. Then, the question is what are Northern governors doing with all those huge monthly allocations? Most States in North collect huge allocations way bigger than what Anambra State get, yet they can't make the right investments in their Education. Some months back we all heard of Jigawa State conducting Tendering process for the construction of Mosque in all its LGA, yet people like you will leave this blatant misappropriation of State funds to start blaming GEJ.

GEJ simply showed them an initiative and actively participated in that initiative; what they - the respective governors do with that initiative is left to them.

FG build schools for them and hand it over to them yet you want make FG still manage the school? Na so them dey do for your side? Papa go marry wife for pikin, you still want make Papa come help his pikin do the needful? hmmm

How many primary & secondary schools has/did FG (including GEJ) built in the Southern States? Please enough of this useless pampering.

@poster,

Kindly remove Igbos in your write-ups. Free Igbos from your hate-induced threads.


@Post

Southerner leaders should be on the alert when write-ups like this start coming from the usual quarters.

Sanusi as CBN governor did all CBN's CSR in the North none whatsoever for the SE. He pumped billions of Naira on Universities in Kano, Borno, etc. and none for any university in SE & others.

Sanusi can inspire his Northern people to greatness without putting people from the south in the equation because when an "excuse" (maybe another cartoon in Denmark) occurs there won't be any need for their youth to unleash their anger/hatred on people from the south since their youths will never understand the context Sanusi used in referencing the south in this his write-up.

fratermathy:


We have said it times without number that we never requested for any referendum and therefore we are not interested in it.

Keep your referendum to yourselves. Even if we are voting in a referendum, the choice isn't between Nigeria and Biafra but between Nigeria and our own country. How hard is that to understand? Must you annexe us in your proposed referendum? As far as I am concerned, your referendum will NEVER be a reality unless you limit it to your borders.

That everyone is tired of the Nigerian marriage doesn't mean everyone wants Biafra as an exit plan. We have already openly rejected Biafra officially. Our leaders have said NO on our behalf. What more do you need? You want to force all of us to vote in your referendum? We are not zombies. We have to ask for one. We have to start a movement for a referendum by ourselves. Urhobo is a nation of over 2.5 million people and if a referendum is what we need, more than half of us would be at the forefront of the struggle. It's that simple!!!


Khsteel: I have seen your comments and I am not going to respond to some of the emotional outbursts you resorted to. You said I had something in mind when I opened this thread and you are very correct. I assumed the worst of IPOB Igbos due to me history with them online and they didn't prove me wrong on this thread. However, I acknowledge that you tried to address the issues very well and I appreciate that. You've done far better on this thread than what most of your people have ever done on Nairaland. If I were you, I would caution your brethren to be careful of the words they use, especially with regards to other people's ethnicity. If Hausas come today and insist that Igbos must take a referendum between Nigeria and Niger republic when you did not ask for one, what would the Igbos do? How would you feel? That is exactly how we feel!

The maps peddled by IPOB and some Igbos as the real map of Biafra contains the territories of minorities who have never granted permission to their inclusion in these maps and they have not officially come out to say that they are interested in Biafra. In the history of the Biafran struggle, no minority has been at the frontline. All the propagandists are Igbos. No minority group has openly come out, even in the form of small groups, to pledge loyalty to Biafra. What we have always asked for is the restructuring of Nigeria to give more voice to the minorities in heading their own affairs and controlling their own resources. That remains our wish and you guys know this. So forcing us to undertake a referendum we did not ask for is tantamount to taking away our right to self-determination HOWEVER WE SEE FIT!

I am an advocate for a referendum on the choice between Nigeria and Urhobo Nation or any coalition between MINORITY GROUPS. However my people have not said anything of such or made any request of that nature and so I cannot force my wish on my people. That is how things are done. When my people are ready, we will have our referendum (if at all it gets to that) and BIAFRA won't be on the table as a choice!!!

Gini mere i ji na-amanye onwe gi na a ndị mmadu na-enweghi mmasị? Eziokwu!

Everything to you is emotional response, how so?
Even with details of the sequence of events and verifiable evidences.

Like I said earlier, Lower Niger Congress (LNC) does not enjoy massive support from the Igbos majorly because of it's expanded map. However, they are the only vehicle currently with the mandate to organize a REFERENDUM within their listed areas which they are currently mobilizing for.

IPOB has not identified with that referendum, I don't know the plans of IPOB with respect to organizing a referendum; but I suspect it may soon go solicit for a mandate to organize it's referendum

Like I said before, we Igbos TRULY have ZERO interest in forming a new country with the following groups: Edos, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Isokos, Ijaws, Ikwerres, Ogonis, etc.

What majority of Igbos truly want as the new Biafran country is all PROUD Igbo groups in SE & SS/Niger-Delta and maybe our good neighbours in present day Akwa Ibom and Cross River States.

Like I also said earlier, I understand that a large section of groups in Cross River & Akwa Ibom States identifies with Biafra; however, if the majority of people of the groups in present day Cross River & Akwa Ibom States wish to have nothing to do with Biafra, then we Igbos should stick to the attached map clearly showing all PROUD Igbolands.

OPCNAIRALAND:
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I dont have time for your wailing. The ethnic struggle in Nigeria is competition for political supremacy. You loose some, you gain some.

If Yoruba block your gains its not because of hatred, devise a way to outsmart Yoruba next time. Stop the whining and complain, and if outsmarting Yoruba is not possible then accept your losses, and if thats still unbearable then separate from Yoruba completely.

You cannot evangelize for biafran referendum with mouth but everyday pack your people into bus and wagons and migrate out of biafra into Yorubaland....that's self-hate, and that's the root of your many problems .....but you mis-diagnosed it a Yoruba hatred!

I am not surprised. That has always been the TRUE NATURE OF YOUR PEOPLE.
Always propagating HATE and BIGOTRY under the covers of a useless narrative.

We are currently seeing this attribute in your representative at Big Brother Naija, where Bisola is constantly HATING on fellow housemates for NO reason at all but will always come out with useless narrative that it's not HATE, it's her LOUD and AGGRESSIVE Nature.

That's why weeks ago, one Yoruba radio presenter on a sport programme went on air to propagate hate (condemn/run-him-down) against Kelechi Iheanacho while hiding under the useless narrative that Kelechi Iheanacho doesn't have football sense yet he praised everything about Arsenal' Alex Iwobi on the same radio program. Can't he praise everything Alex Iwobi and simply keep Kelechi Iheanacho out of his mouth?
This is the same thing your people did to Mikel Obi and Tayie Taiwo/Rabiu Lukman, thank God Mikel Obi has proven you all wrong a billion times over.

Could you please tell us & the world the political position and struggles that the Yoruba radio presenter had with Mikel Obi and Kelechi Iheanacho that they had to go on air to propagate such HATE against these fine Igbo gentlemen?

Keep HATING. I never expected you to reason like a human being, this is exactly why some of us truly want out of Nigeria. There's really no point being in a country where you can't reason with your fellow countrymen.

BTW, I have nothing against your people, BUT I understand the thought pattern and manipulations of your leaders very well...

Enjoy your day!

Efewestern:


I usually don't comment on thread like this, I only did so because the op was a brother, no need arguing about nothing, we all know what the urhobo nation wants, I won't come online and start arguing with everyone about things that ain't real, at least before including a tribe in a struggle what you would have done first is to ask if they are interested in such struggle, that's the message the op is trying to pass, you can take a trip from your house to any urhobo land or even itsekiri land and get first hand info yourself,

I still see no reason why I will insult an entire tribe, I still believe in the Nigeria project, so do my brothers, the problem we are facing as a nation is as a result of bad leaders, country not been restructured well (yes I believe restructuring the country will Go a long way in solving our problem), Why most people kill themselves online arguing about religion and tribe the politicians keep looting our common wealth, they keep linking there children to each other for Nigeria .

I have nothing against the poster and your people.

From the posters' replies, its clear he didn't come for clarity on this thread/subject-matter, he simply took a 'Single Story' and propagated a narrative he desired for the specific audience he kept referencing to.

I and my people wish you and your people the very best in all your aspirations.

I honestly believe we will make great neighbours in separate countries.

Best wishes and have a great day!

OPCNAIRALAND:


@KhSteel,
Im responding here because you included Yoruba in your broad brush accusations of anti-Ibo sentiments across the country. Apparently it suits you to attribute hatred as the causative that makes Ibo subject of ridicule in Yoruba society. You don't believe its deserving, inspite the ambition of your people to turn Lagos into a non-Yoruba state. Were you expecting a sponsorship from us?

Thanks for your response.

Your response shows you have also observed the HATE coming out from your corner of Nigeria; however, the only contention you have is that you think it's a reactionary human nature from your people...according to you because of Igbos' ambition of turning Lagos into a non-Yoruba state hence, you think Igbos deserve all the HATE from your corner of Nigeria.

@fratermathy & others; kindly take note.


Let's address this Igbos ambition of turning Lagos into a non-Yoruba state.

When has Igbos ever voted against Yoruba interest in Lagos State?

I can only remember 2015, if you have contrary evidence please provide it.

Before we look into Igbos desires/ambition in 2015, let's review events of 2013 with respects to the Anambra State governorship elections where Ngige contested under the banner of ACN.

We all saw how ACN and your leaders tried to force Ngige on Anambra in 2013/2014; and when Ngige got defeated, we all saw how ACN and your leaders went on media blitz blasting Igbos for their political choice on TVC, Channels TV SunRise programme & AIT Focus Nigeria...calling us all manner of names and telling us how Ngige was the best Ijebu garri in town. How can people in SW Nigeria know what's best for people in Anambra?

That silly acts of 2013/2014 was what triggered the political consciousness of Igbos in 2015, and we all saw people threatening Igbos with the Lagoon and all what not for exercising our constitutionally guaranteed rights. Igbos are not trees, they are bound to respond...

Have you also noticed how your leaders are always the very first to play dirty politics and when the other parties have finished learning work and starts displaying their new skills, you/your leaders will start shouting nonsense.

We all saw how APC/Lai Mohammed lied bare-face lies and pushed-out HATEFUL narratives in the build-up to 2015 elections, after elections and even as at today...yet, you will never see that cause LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TAUGHT YOU PEOPLE TO PILE-UP HATE TOWARDS IGBOs as a NATURAL ORDER; hence, you don't understand why IPOB is changing the natural flow of HATE.

Back to the HATE propagated through the use of movies.

Please go and check the YEARS OF PRODUCTION OF MOST 'REDEEMED' 'church/christian' movies; afterwards, come back and tell us how Igbos were ascertaining their political influence in Lagos as far as mid/late 1990s & early 2000s that most of those useless HATEFUL Movies were made.
Also, find a new NARRATIVE of how IGBOs deserves such UNCOUNTABLE QUANTUM AMOUNT OF HATE from your people on media cause this 'your how Igbos deserves it' is dead already; yet, in all this, the NIGERIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION allowed it all to air and go into circulations.


For the records, the amount of HATE in Nigeria (and ANTI-IGBO SENTIMENTS) didn't start recently, it's has always been there as a NIGERIAN STATE policy since 1970 and some sections of Nigeria simply latched-onto to the NIGERIAN 'HATEFUL' STATE POLICIES to propagate their HATE TOWARDS IGBOs to their heart content for 50+ years; guess what, IGBOs endured all these HATE given that them/their PARENTS LOST A WAR.

The question then is, "For How Long Will all These HATE go Unchallenged"?

What's NEW in Nigeria is that the young Igbos are saying ENOUGH is ENOUGH to the one-sided HATE.

The Internet & Social Media gave Igbos a platform, in the recent past, to challenge the UNCOUNTABLE QUANTUM AMOUNT OF HATE coming out from a section of Nigeria and your people CAN'T HANDLE WHAT YOU/YOUR PARENTS have been dishing out these past 50+ years to Igbos.

fratermathy:


Niger Delta is not a country or a proposed nation.

Biafra should be homogenous. Multiethnicity breeds hatred and chaos. Nigeria is a clear example of this.

In any case, I've made all the points I wanted to make and the Igbo people on this thread helped me in making this. This is not a bashing thread but one created to show everyone that the IPOB Igbo is incapable of arguing without emotions. That they are sentimental and tribalistic. They are Igbo supremacists who believe other minorities are pawns for their use even when they don't give a single damn for these minorities. They want to superimpose their will and struggle on people with diverse wishes and aspirations. People who were unfortunately lumped in Nigeria and deserve a chance at creating their own destinies. The IPOB Igbo man believes he is God who can decide the fate of minority groups.

This thread has also informed many minorities of the truth. I deliberately shared the link to this link thread in many groups. Most of us have reiterated our conviction that the Igbo is the Hausa of the South and we must do everything and anything to stop them from dictating our will, even if it means forming alliances with ourselves to stop Igbo encroachment. All these are caused by the statements made online by IPOB apologists and Igbo supremacists! We won't sit still and allow the Igbo deride us and play God with our future. We have not asked for any of the things that the Igbo has asked for. We have not wished to join them in their struggle or aspirations. Why do they force us then in their struggle? Who made them the mouthpiece for us?

Having gone through the entire threads, it is absolutely clear you did not create this thread for an intelligent discourse or in genuine seek of insights. You created this thread with a clear-cut sinister motive, hence, you tried very hard to guide this thread to your desired outcome.

You choose not to respond to a few because taking that route of discussion wouldn't give you the outcome you came for.

Kudos to you @Efewestern in your small contribution that's devoid of insults and hateful rhetoric. Its seems the poster listens to you, kindly advise on how to make proper comments and statements devoid of hate. HATE NATURALLY BEGETS HATE; he can't come here and preach HATE while hiding as a neutral and expect people to behave in a certain way, it's not done, people will always see through these things. It's not that hard.

@khadaffi
If you had cautioned the poster to take down the hateful rhetorics and present logic backed with facts, you all might have gotten the decent response you all desired.

Nevertheless, let's all tone down the hate - its a Never Ending Circle!

[quote author=fratermathy post=55070689]I understand that I am stepping into controversial waters but I feel this has to be said, given the fact that Urhobo-Isokoland is added to the proposed Biafra Nation. Silence may mean consent. This has to be said and I anticipate a very exciting and non-tribalistic discussion of the issues I have raised. I have already made this comment on a thread elsewhere on this forum but I need it to be a thread of its own in order to attract more comments and reach out to IPOB youths which the message is directed to.


@Poster


Thanks for this your submission and position. Thanks greatly, I must say.

I have only read the first page and think the argument you are having with my fellow Igbos stems from slight misunderstanding from your write-up.
Honestly, you tried to write your piece devoid of hate, misconception and tribalistic conjectural; but the problem I see in your write-up is that you believed 100% the narrative from a certain section of Nigeria as the truth, hence, some of my Igbos choose not to engage you in a meaningful discourse since it seems you have already reached a certain conclusion before stepping forward to discuss.

I think the above is the bone of contention here...I choose to give you the benefit of doubt cause as humans, mistakes are part of our nature.

Before proceeding further, let's understand this first: I will speak strictly from the perspective of Igbos and you will speak from the perspective of your tribe (Urhobo or is it Isoko and Itsekiri, please confirm). There's absolutely no need for 'We Niger-Delta' or 'We SS', it defeats the purpose of the discourse as there are huge indigenous Igbos in both Niger-Delta/SS.

Just like you rightly stated, all people of Nigeria have inalienable rights to self-determination; furthermore, they all have inalienable rights to LIFE, ELECTIONS - TO VOTE & BE VOTED FOR, RIGHTS TO PEACEFUL PROTEST & RALLIES, RIGHTS TO FREE ASSOCIATIONS, LASTLY, ALL THE PEOPLE OF NIGERIA HAVE THEIR INALIENABLE RIGHTS TO REFERENDUM in their respective aspirations. SOVEREIGNTY lies with the people, not with Buhari or any other office holder.

From my understanding of these events (you honestly need to read more before coming up with some of the comments you made above).

Point I

MASSOB under the leadership of Uwazurike started the new Biafran agitations in 1999 which also had Nnamdi Kanu as a member of the group though a relatively unknown figure as at then. MASSOB had their focus in resuscitating the former Eastern region as Biafra as was the case in the 1960s. MASSOB did well in sensitizing a lot of people but most people didn't key into the agitation then because most people still believed there might still be a chance for Nigeria to work, nevertheless, MASSOB kept faith and kept on working on their evangelizing mission statement but instead of the Nigerian state to engage them in a debate and nip the agitation in its formative stage, the Nigerian state under Obasanjo unleashed the army on MASSOB and killed a lot of its members while governors like Peter Obi and others stood-by and watched...

Still all those killings didn't deter MASSOB, rather it embolden some of its members - perhaps, members that lost loved ones to the Nigerian state.

Then comes the LOWER NIGER CONGRESS (LNC) into the struggle in 2011 under the leadership of Fred Agbeyegbe ESQ. & Tony Nnadi ESQ. This is the group that expanded the agitation to include the groups under the former Mid-West region into the struggle in 2011.
Please read more about the Lower Niger Congress (LNC).

http://saharareporters.com/2011/06/30/failed-state-called-nigeria-our-stand

BTW, majority of Igbos don't support this expansion that's why LNC does not enjoy massive support from Igbos, but again with recent events in Nigeria, Igbos just want out of this destructive union, hence, their ever willingness to support and latch-on to any available vehicle ready to take them out of the inferno. Also, I think the Igbos' reservations towards LNC stems largely from the inclusion of Edo/Itsekiri, Urhobo-Isoko and to an extent the Ijaws (in the order of mention). We Igbos don't hate them, we honestly believe we can be close neighbours to the groups listed here.
For the other groups not listed above, I honestly would love to have ONLY all proud Igbos/Igboland in SE, SS & Niger-Delta + all the groups in present day Cross River & Akwa Ibom States in the Biafran State of our dreams. Please Note, All groups except the proud Igbos in present day Rivers State should be allowed to stay on their own or with Nigeria - their absolute choice.

I understand that a large section of groups in Cross River & Akwa Ibom States identifies with Biafra; however, if the majority of people of the groups in present day Cross River & Akwa Ibom States wish to have nothing to do with Biafra, then we Igbos should stick to the attached map of 1895 clearly showing all Igboland.

Sorry for the digress, let's get back on track.

IPOB joined the struggle in 2012 under the leadership of Nnamdi Kanu after watching haplessly how Nigeria security forces constantly murder MASSOB members with zero strong leadership from MASSOB to stop the killings. I think IPOB maybe trying to create a niche for itself away from MASSOB decided to adopt the map from Lower Niger Congress (LNC).
NOTE: No group is right or wrong for its modalities since all they were looking for was recognition and better platform to be heard - they all did what they thought best to get to the mainstream media, but GEJ totally ignored them all. However, the all got their dues back, all thanks to Buhari. Today, they are all on mainstream global/international media.

With the above stated, the answer to your point one question happened in April 2015 at the Solemn Assembly of the Lower Niger Congress (LNC) in Port Harcourt, Rivers State. (BTW, I saw on Channels TV all the nationalities of SE/SS carrying placards displaying their groupings at the Solemn Assembly).

Furthermore, you may wish to read Ann-Kio Briggs's speech at the Solemn Assembly of LNC.

http://saharareporters.com/2015/04/28/video-time-now-ripe-niger-delta-region-secede-nigeria-ann-kio-briggsor

As well as Google/read Hilda Dokubos' speech at the same Solemn Assembly.

Here's the speech of Edo delegates at the LNC's Solemn Assembly.

https://edonationsatelite..com.ng/2015/04/report-of-lower-niger-congress.html

Also Note that the Solemn Assembly of the People of Lower Niger Congress (LNC) has already given the LNC the mandate to organize a referendum to determine what its people want. They are not waiting for Buhari to do what's in their power to do for themselves.

https://guardian.ng/news/lower-niger-congress-wants-referendum/

https://oblongmedia.net/2017/01/03/lower-niger-congress-special-announcement-on-referendum/

https://www.nairaland.com/2327562/lower-niger-congress-five-point

Also, LNC has said that they are yet to adopt any NAME for the prospective country: they said it could be Biafra, Lower Niger Federation, etc. they said after & if the referendum is successful, they will then put up the question of the Federations name to the people to decide.

You will have to do more reading to get better picture of political developments around you.


Point II:


This is where you totally messed up. This is the main bone of contention.
I take it you were totally ignorant of the Lower Niger Congress (LNC) group before writing your article, you never knew of the Solemn Assembly in which your representative actively participated and gave their mandates. You have zero details of political developments around you yet you went off making statements purely from an ignorant perspective yet portraying it as facts on ground.

Next time, learn to carry out research before quoting figures, that way, your audience might take you serious enough to engage you.

You are wrong, the map in use by IPOB is the same 1885 Map of the Lower Niger Territory, (which depicts the Geo-Ethnolinguistic diversity of the Territory as the Geographical basis of a the Prospective Lower Niger Federation) that was adopted by the SOLEMN ASSEMBLY of Lower Niger Congress (LNC) in April 2015 at Port Harcourt, Rivers State and had your representative actively participated and endorsed.
I suggest you leave IPOB out of this and rather take it up with your representatives.

Again you are wrong (or you lied), your people requested and mandated Lower Niger Congress (LNC) to conduct a referendum to determine what your people want - you may wish to get involved and get your people to VOTE NO. Or better still back out of the entire process now, but not to come online to deride IPOB and what it represent. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE in all ramification.

Like I said before, most Igbos really don't want the expanded map but they are very willing to work with serious/strong vehicle to leave the inferno first and when we all get to safety, we can all build our separate houses however we want. We call it - 'Live and Let Live' principle; WE ARE NOT FORCING ANYTHING ON ANYONE.
Stop making those kind of statements, maybe people will then respond to you in CIVIL manner. You can't make such derogatory statements and then expect others to treat you nicely, how naive...

Please, Biafra need not extend any hand of fellowship to future citizens of Nigeria. Nigerians would live and Biafrans would live as good neighbours happily ever after. Igbos are not known to build empires by annexing people's land - its NOT in our nature.

Point III

Your claim is purely baseless; your point II is filled with lies and emotional insults for IPOB and what it stands for. Read your article again, but this time read it from a non-Nigerian perspective...
If the Biafran agitations of IPOB and other groups makes no sense to you, the least you could do is to understand why a group will follow its adopted modalities when you have absolutely zero information of 'what is and what is about'.
Your entire write-up is an EMOTIONAL exercise devoid of facts on ground; yet you turn-around to accuse the next man what you did.
Your entire write-up seeks NOT for clarity on the Biafran agitations subject rather but to deride a peoples' aspirations; and you complain how people react emotionally. What were you expecting Red carpet reception
Do unto others as you want others to do unto you.

Now, you see only the HATE and TRIBALISM from IPOB/Igbos Really Wetin you drink? Where have you been this past 50+ years that the Nigerian State empowered the Hausa/Fulani/Yuroba and others to dish out uncountable quantum amount of HATE to Igbos? Are you seriously blind to all those HATE on Igbos from the usual suspects?

80% of Yuroba radio presenters particularly on Smooth FM & Classic FM go live on air to deride and make mockery of Igbos and their way of live on live radio consistently. They didn't start doing that today...They young ones learnt the HATE from their parents who taught them that is was OK to pile up HATE on Igbos, hence, they see such nonsense as a way of life. When we point out these HATE to them, they see it as we being too sensitive...
This is the reason an Oba threatened the Igbo Nation, APC chairman called the Igbo Nation "Political Immature People", Buhari promised Igbos 5% rule, plus others. To them, it's not HATE...It's just a way of life.
Did you also noticed how some people came here to defend such nonsense...Cause HATING Igbos for the past 50+ years has always been a Nigerian State policy. To all of them, it's a WAY OF LIFE, SO THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IPOB IS DISHING IT BACK TO THEM.
TO THEM, IT'S NOT THE NATURAL COURSE. THEY CAN'T HANDLE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DISHING TO IGBOs FOR THIS PAST 50+ YEARS AND MORE.

Check most Nollywood movies produced by Yoruba producers and see how they portray Igbos and Igbo families in their movies...
Check "Lekki Wives" and see how they portray Igbos and Igbo families in their TV production.
Check most movie production by 'Redeemed' and see the HATEFUL ways they constantly portray Igbos and Igbo families, yet, their GO will allow such HATE in his media only to come out to the public putting his face like the most righteous man on earth. But their heart are all filled with HATE.

Yet, your Nigerian State own NBC allow all these nonsense to air.

IPOB came into existence around 2012 and only started giving them the dish (HATE) they have been serving Igbos for the past 50 years and more; but still you could only see the HATE from IPOB.
This also shows you are not neutral hence the response you got from my people.

Like I said in point II, no Igbo/IPOB is interested in annexing or forcing anything on you. That narrative can never fly.

I don't know the discussion you had with your Urhobos/Itsekiris and Ibibios, and how they reacted; but you said they reacted. Why then do you have issues with IPOB reacting to those HATEFUL People - you even say they reacted as if IPOB is the aggressor here. Was IPOB around when the Nigerian State implemented so many HATEFUL policies against the Igbo Nation? State policies like Abandoned Properties, 20 pounds for whatever you have in your bank account, Indigenization policy of 1972, grounding of economic growth/activities in Igboland hence forcing massive migration of Igbos to other regions, No federal presence in all Igboland, should we go on?
I guess to you, these are all acts of LOVE and Igbos should keep quiet, and IPOB should not return the favor.

I may not support all Igbos strategies but I certainly UNDERSTAND them.
To understand IPOB better, just listen to Buhari. Buhari is a classic example of the Nigerian State, the only language he understands are INJUSTICS, HATE, BIGOTRY, etc. These are the kind of people you want IPOB to engage with in a civil manner?
Aljazzera's TV presenter once advised Buhari to engage IPOB in a discourse, what was Buhari's response on live International TV - NO, HE WON'T!

Point IV

I believe answers to point II and point III have also address this.

IPOB shouldn't woo anybody; if you are feeling the present inferno and wish to run for dear life, it's your choice. IPOB is just a vehicle...Just like LNC, MASSOB, etc. Your people have the absolute right to choose to identify with any of these vehicles heading the same direction as you or better still, set up a completely different and new vehicle to take you to your fathers' compound. It's your choice!
Or you could still prefer to stay in your current settings - your choice.

Point V

Again, you go off running your mouth on a subject you clearly have limited information. Your Point V makes it really hard to engage you in a debate. I am struggling not to delete everything I have written thus far and allow you to wallow in your ignorance but for the sake of others genuinely interested in some insight - I will try and wrap this up now before I hit the delete button.

MASSOB did very well. IPOB is currently doing way better.
IPOB have successfully positioned the Biafran Independence agitations in the mainstream international media and you ignorantly called that nothing?
Today Biafran flag is being flown in Abuja and you called that nothing? Would anyone had tried that some months back?
Today you/We are very free to discuss the Biafran Independence agitations freely in the open and you ignorantly called that nothing? Even here on Nairaland that its owner was banning people just because of Biafra.

Nnamdi Kanu is the rallying point and to an extent; he is exactly what IPOB needs given that the Nigerian State has repeatedly shown itself to be crude in all its dealings with people from the southern region of which Igbos are part of the South.

When have you seen IPOB engage in violent protest?
What you call 'Protest', IPOB call it 'Evangelism' to sensitise the People which you clearly are in support of, so why then is the Nigerian security forces killing IPOB members on peaceful Evangelical activities?

IPOB have done all you wrote up there - kindly focus on your people more. You will also need to read up and keep up with political development around you. We will try to sensitise IPOB on the need to drop the expanded map and focus only on the Igbo area of the map and maybe carry along the groups in Cross River and Akwa Ibom States if that's the desire/aspirations of the people the areas mentioned to be part of the Biafran State.

We have zero issue/s with anyone writing on the Biafran Independence agitations, but before you do, please read up very well and understand the subject matter rather than come online with the narrative of some HATEFUL clowns and expect Igbos to roll out Red carpet reception for you.

If you wish to stay NEUTRAL; PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, read up and stay NEUTRAL.

Years ago, the Yuroba Nation controlled the Nigerian media and then had over 40 years of putting out HATEFUL BIGOTIC narratives out there. They successfully used the Nigerian State to ban the teach of Nigerian History in schools. However, thanks to the coming of Internet and Google, we all now have access to the right information. Kindly read up and stop running off with a 'Single Story'.

I am yet to see Igbos write this your kind of article directed at your people with all those hateful narratives - I only saw people writing rejoinders to one useless narrative - one clown (Ena) tried to push on Facebook. I will advise you focus more on your people and what you want for your people; however, if you must seek clarity from others on positions that might affect you/your people, kindly do proper research and ask proper questions with facts because running with a HATEFUL narratives propagated by BIGOTS will not get you the answers you seek.

Again, most people naturally don't have the time/patients to write long essays to put you through, hence, you will have to ask nicely.

Have a good day.

carnegiefan:


UN can "force" Nigeria to conduct a referendum if the permanent members agree to that. Any number of things can make them agree... or not.
It is left to the Biafrans to find out what those things are.
Personally I believe that the shortest route to Biafran freedom from Nigeria is for the Biafrans to "convince" the Nigerians that they want out and even if it takes 100 years that they want out. Once the Nigerians get convinced that we hate them enough; D they will ask us to leave.
Right now they hate us, but we haven't returned the favor yet.
Even foreigners notice that Nigerians hate us, but the problem is our people who carry on as if life can go on under the burden of such hate.
Our region is the most neglected in Nigeria in terms of federal infrastructure.
Things that North and West take for granted (eg airports, roads and bridges) are pies in the skies in our region.
And if we complain, we are killed.
It is only if we return the hate that the writing will become clear on the wall.
Maybe then, they would know that we are humans with dignity too, and maybe let us go ('cos frankly they don't like us).

At the bold, I guess IGBOs have finally developed their own HATING skills and some IDIOTS that has been HATING IGBOs for the past 50 years can't handle the same dish they serve IGBOs.

Bunch of HATEFUL Clowns.

bantudra:


but people are listening...the south south want nothing to do with biafra...the day you get that,i will keep quiet and end my e-jihad..

i dont want to see anything adding the south south to biafra anymore...

you want the igbos in the south south to join biafra??...no problem...tell them to relocate to the south east and i will stop commenting on anything concerning biafra.......deal??...

You have mentioned Igbos...can you also mention your tribe so we can understand you better.

bantudra:


even the deaths of the innocent igbos??....now,that is what i call evil..self centeredness....you are far away abroad and talking rubbish,but its okay solong it gives you biafra....if i was igbo,i would hate igbos abroad..

they dont give a damm about igbos living in nigeria...

Thank you for giving a damn.

Kindly face your front and stay on your lane.

Your narrative is 'dead and done away with'.

papparatzzi2013:


We are talking of national issue this joker is talking of local/state related issues?

It is finished indeed!!!!

The JOKE is on you.

Like I said before - Bunch of Clowns.

This clown here believes his States' constitution fell from the sky and that of National (aka Nigeria) got washed up on the banks of River Niger; hence, the two have ZERO derivative relationship.

Clowns.

Some clowns keep shouting constitution does not support referendum; ask them the meaning of referendum and they have nothing meaningful to say.

Meanwhile, a state in the North & another in the South West has conducted a referendum for its people to determine what its people want but they erroneously think others can't do the same or even take the step further.

Let me leave this here first...

rusher14:


You guys constantly harp about this 20 pounds policy. Yet, you pretend that is the equivalent of 302 pounds (150K Naira) of today. Using your own words regardless of your bank deposit level.

What of the non-biafrans that lost out due to a war they never initiated? Why shouldn't they look at you with suspicion when you waged war against them and have not shown true penitence?

If Igbos truly want to leave they are free to but they must do so applying a civil approach.

If the only thing your mind can respond to in my write-up is the 20 pounds policy of the FG immediately after the war of which you tried to down play; I will suggest you leave the discourse or better still keep shut and learn.

You are free to make your assertions of 150k or 2 billion, e no concern my people. My write-up is very clear that the policy in reference is 20 pounds for whatever amount Igbos have in the bank immediately after the war in 1970 at the time.

World-over, serious countries desirous of growth always enact a State Policy of rebuilding war-torn regions immediately the war is over just as being done for the North-East Nigeria currently even with some level of Boko Haram activities still on, why was such never done for Igboland/Biafra? Why was the State Policies after war time focused on destroying off the Igbo survivals economically and politically?

I need you to provide us empirical evidence of the MOU/Agreement signed by Igbo children & mothers of 1966 - 1970 to WAGE war against anyone. And particularly to WAGE a WAR started by Gowon.

The fact you couldn't address any of the other concerns raised in my write-ups TELLS the WHOLE WORLD who are the HATE MONGERS in Nigeria. Certainly NOT the IGBOs.

I rest my case.

Some peoples' only PRAYER in life is for the Igbo nation to constantly put its faith onto the 1999 constitution so that they can always connive with the North to deal with Igbos.

They have forever choose not to see that 4+5 = 9, so its 3+6 = 9, 2+7 = 9; can someone please tell these clowns that there are different routes to 'AMELICA' o.

mightyhaze:
but asking us 2 boycott a whole general election,..wont it be too extreme?


Stooges like okorocha will be freely foiisted on us!

I say we hold our own firmly, .... while other things play out!

It simply mean we reject the constitution and the electoral process in its entirety and can then unanimously put our mandate on the leadership of IPOB or Ohaneze to chart the best possible economic/political/social direction that align more to the yearnings of the people.

Okorocha is just one man he alone cannot organize election in the East.

profhezekiah:
Instead of the igbos to align with their fellow south and we fight d same course, dey are hauling insults and hatred,igbos are devour by hate and walking d way of perdition.

You must be a child born in 2016.

Where were you and your 'fellow south' in 2015?

Nigeria poured uncountable amount of HATE to Igbos starting from 1967 - 1970 till date and Igbos started responding in kind since 2015/2016 and you only see the hate from Igbos? Wetin you smoke?

State Policies such as Abandoned property, 20 pounds for whatever amount you have in the bank, indigenization policy in nigeria of 1972, grounding of port activities in the East, No federal presence in Igbo, No motorable roads, No International Airport in the Zone until yesterday, etc are all acts of love?

Or is it the amount of hate from radio & TV presenters from a section of Nigeria that constantly deride & humiliate everything Igbos on air...I guess these are all acts of love to you.

Immediately after 2015, APC chairman said the entire Igbo nation is "politically Immature" for voting a candidate of their choice, one traditional ruler threatened Igbos for their voting choice, Buhari called them 5% in their country and promised to extend 5% rule to them and many more...you didn't see all these HATE (or are the lovers' love letters?) and others but only see the reactionary HATE from the Igbos.

Bunch of clowns.

Kindly focus on your people and leave Igbos the Bleep alone.

LionDeLeo:


Stop this your seek and hide tactics, this is just a faceless forum. The president or the National Assembly, yet you didn't call onto the president? Hmm.

Again, the National Assembly? Who are the bunch of old men you refer to pls?

Dude, it is either you can't remember what you just said or you are confused.

I simply don't have energy to go back and forth on this issue. I have discussed this here in the past, I don't have such luxury of time to waste.

To further break it down, my point is that the Presidency or National Assembly are both institutions of the Nigerian State (which I initially referenced to) can initiate the discourse with IPOB leadership, it's no longer about waiting for an individual leader or leaders to proceed further.

LionDeLeo:


The summary of this is that your leaders are not doing your biddings, so which govt are you talking about?

Is it the president whose decisions are subject to scrutiny by NASS where you have your representatives (leaders)? Guy, resolve your issues with your leaders and stop blaming anybody. You may use that as a condition for for election. The President alone cannot give you your biafra without NASS.

Clearly, you lack comprehension skills.

The president or the National Assembly can always take the lead, but I never called onto the president.

LionDeLeo:


But you talk about separation and you don't advocate it as well. Pls don't mention those acts that constitute public disturbance, that is not how to separate. For instance, what is stopping your leaders from pushing for it?

At this point, its not left for the leaders to push for anything. The masses has demonstrated their desires, the right thing for the Nigerian state to do now is to invite the leadership of IPOB for a discussion & negotiations.

Sovereignty lies with the people and not with some bunch of old men; and right now, the people have bestowed their mandate on the leadership of IPOB.

For your information, street-protest, petition writing, elections and voting are all elements of democracy; none is superior to the other.

When a people participate in an election through voting or writing a petition against/for a course or protest - it is the responsibility of the democratic government in place to respond to the needs of its people; except you are telling us that the Nigerian situation is not a democracy.

kropotkin2:
This is true. Just go through the majority of social media sites and you will see most of the hate speech that goes on there comes mainly from people of south eastern origin. This is particularly dangerous as it is influencing the opinions of a lot of young Nigerians towards the Igbos in a negative way.

Let it influence them very negatively; just like the Dogs & Baboon & 97%/5% LOVE LETTERS from Buhari, Tinubu and others helped formed our opinion of how to play opposition in Nigeria.

Bunch of clowns

PapaBrowne:
All this political hypocrisy is just tiring!!

People are angry because Fulani herdsmen are killing innocent citizens and nothing is done and nobody cares.

People are angry because innocent people are protesting and you send soldiers to shoot them dead.

People are angry because they have seen the cost of feeding, transportation and every other thing triple and all you do as a leader is lay blame on the past.

People are angry at the divisive disposition of Buhari. People are angry at the lies. People are angry at the lack of any vision.

And all you can reduce it to is unfounded hate??

Tell the writer I said he is pathetic. And his pathetic state would be redeemed the day he asks Buhari what he is doing about the killer herdsmen.

For years, you are still one of the few I read their comment cuz its devoid of sentiment at least up to 85%.

@ the post, yet majority of these idiots wonder why most Igbos want to be left the Bleep alone; hence this is the propelling force for the demands for Biafra republic.

Boleyndynasty2:
Why not make your comment and leave instead of quoting everyone here. People are entitled to their opinions just the way you are. Allow some other people who have something meaningful to post gain access to the FP instead of you quoting different people only to say nothing sensible, Good morning sir

The bot is doing his paid job, his job is to constantly create useless threads like this to spur on arguments to increase traffic/activity on Nairaland...it's only a matter of time before people sees through it and then it becomes stale.

maclatunji:
Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina has started a battle of sorts without realizing it. You see he wrote an article titled: PMB’s health: Gloating is of no value published in Premium Times. A friend and colleague who had been so disturbed by the same hateful messages that Mr. Adesina referred to in his article shared the link in WhatsApp groups we manage and to his utter shock still got people that said President Buhari that we have now is actually ‘a clone’. Yes, some people suggested this. My friend being a passionate person felt he needed to leave a group he is an administrator of just because of this. But that is not my style, I responded to these people with the following:

I am afraid at the degree of propaganda, ignorance and hate that young people from Eastern Nigeria in particular are feeding themselves with. If there is a major criticism I have of this government, it is that it is not doing enough to counter it.

It is all over social media and conventional media. There is hardly any Nigerian that lives in a city that does not have Igbo friends that they respect, probably admire and learn from.

However, if a large enough number of people that claim to be Igbo especially the youth insist on being obnoxious and offensive to the point of odioum, you risk compounding whatever problems you think you have in Nigeria.

Let me guess, you say: ‘give us Biafra’. Please, the Anambra man does not love the Abia or Imo man. Most of you want to treat Ebonyi people with scorn. Your problem is not a lack of Biafra or being in Nigeria, it is a lack of good social etiquette, political acumen and unwillingness to cooperate with others.

There are many Igbo people fed-up with this kind of behaviour of some of their kinsmen but they are afraid of being attacked by a blind set of marauders feeding on hate.

It is time Igbo people with enlightenment, elegance and distinction takeover the discussion on the progress and future of the Igbo. What we have right now are Charlatans and inept thinkers.

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/hate-propaganda-future-east/

Why don't you and your people leave these "hateful" IGBOs to be.

Where were you when Tinubu, Obj & others were busy heaping up all manner of nonsense on GEJ - such they called a sitting president 'Clueless', I guess that was their way of showing love?

Dogs & Baboon, 97%/5% statements are all Buhari's love letters to some people.

Go back to the history of Nigeria with an unbiased mind, your people are always the first to play dirty and when the other party finish learning the dirty game and ready to play the same dirty game your people played, then your people will deplore the media trying to change the narratives. Guess what, with the advert of social media, it has become a tough job trying to change the narrative to suit your myopic lens.

The other aspect is for your people to constantly create useless threads like this to spur on arguments to increase traffic/activity on Nairaland...it's only a matter of time before people sees through it and then it becomes stale.

Amarabae:
pls sir, lets argue camly, we are not fighting.
We disagree to agree, opinions are diverse.
Don't think that you can bully anyone you see online who disagrees with you, Life is not that way.
Thanks

Nne,

No one is trying to bully you. You need to understand the mindset the people you are debating with and then put across your opinions appropriately.

First, I don't support all IPOB approach and strategy but I 1000% understands it. For Christ-sake, you all should understand it too.

You all want IPOB to thread the gentleman path and reason...the question is reason with who?
Nigeria is not a place for gentleman nonsense. Uwazurike did all that and what happened? The Nigerian state killed a lot of its members...IPOB is doing exactly what it has to do to get the attention.

Let others that don't like the IPOB approach ride on the current momentum that IPOB has succeeded in creating to give us a better alternative, so if you, your husband, Soludo, anyone with alternative idea...please, step forward...leadership beckons!

Its too simplicity to stay in the comfort of your homes and tongue lash Igbos when they are the ones taking all the current heat from FG and others.

I want everyone with alternative ideas to consider and factor in the heat the Igbos are currently taking from FG/UK & others before coming online to yap nonsense. Igbos may easily take all the heat from external forces but the same amount of heat coming from brothers and sisters are always very destructive.

We all want the same thing which is the independence of Igboland from the destructive Nigerian union, most of us have been discussing Biafra in hush tones for ages now; it took Nnamdi Kanu shouting and raining insults in the wilderness to get us this far such that we are now free to discuss Biafra everywhere as well as fly the Biafran flag anywhere including Abuja something very unheard of in the very recent past...

Let's say Nnamdi Kanu is our Moses, can any one of you with the alternative ideas be our Joshua

Ugomba:
I am currently in portharcourt for a conference and the news of IPOB declaring portharcourt as their official base is circulating.
why are Igbos bringing embarrasment to Igbos?
I overheard that many kalabaris, okrikas, ikwerre, ogonis etc want to protest against it.
As a Delta-Ibo, truth be told, I can see why some of my anioma brethrens deny being Igbo.
You need to see the insult being throwed at Igbos just because of ipob activity in portharcourt.
Rivers state governor is NOT a Biafra supporter, why constituting nuisance in his state?
IPOB has changed Portharcourt name to Igweocha, how do you expect the minorities like Ogoni to feel, atleast Portharcourt is all they have to call their city by virtue of being Rivers indigene.
why are Igbos behaving this way?
This declaration of Portharcourt as IPOB Official base is wrong and should be condemned.
Move it to any south east city and avoid unnecessary misunderstanding.
Thanks.
..

I don't know the reasons for their choice of PH; however, this could be a very strategic move given that some peeps from SS have in the past made reference to how far Enugu is as a Capital and how they would support Biafra republic holistically should Igbos concede the Capital to non-Igbo area.

With the above stated, I think PH may offer all that are concerned a neutral location that might be generally acceptable and accessible to most stakeholders.

Ugomba:
I am currently in portharcourt for a conference and the news of IPOB declaring portharcourt as their official base is circulating.
why are Igbos bringing embarrasment to Igbos?
I overheard that many kalabaris, okrikas, ikwerre, ogonis etc want to protest against it.
As a Delta-Ibo, truth be told, I can see why some of my anioma brethrens deny being Igbo.
You need to see the insult being throwed at Igbos just because of ipob activity in portharcourt.
Rivers state governor is NOT a Biafra supporter, why constituting nuisance in his state?
IPOB has changed Portharcourt name to Igweocha, how do you expect the minorities like Ogoni to feel, atleast Portharcourt is all they have to call their city by virtue of being Rivers indigene.
why are Igbos behaving this way?
This declaration of Portharcourt as IPOB Official base is wrong and should be condemned.
Move it to any south east city and avoid unnecessary misunderstanding.
Thanks.
..

I don't know the reasons for their choice of PH; however, this could be a very strategic move given that some peeps from SS have in the past made reference to how far Enugu is as a Capital and how they would support Biafra republic holistically should Igbos concede the Capital to non-Igbo area.

With the above stated, I think PH may offer all that are concerned a neutral location that might be generally acceptable and accessible to most stakeholders.

mykelmeezy:


hate??

common sense really didn't reach your side

instead of looking at it with me hating on kalu

look at it with the idea that everything isnt a competition your success isnt judged based on how woeful others failed.....i.e your failure is failure

in layman's language

.there are other more efficient more reliable more credible youths out there the east can produce instead of looking up to corrupt old fools like kalu n co

I guess the only time you and people like you remember words like 'more efficient more reliable more credible' are when it concerns the East but when its about others - anything goes, hence why people like you who claimed to be educated had to queue under the hot sun to vote in an incompetent illiterate that couldn't sustain the level of economic growth he met. Ordinary to show one's academic credentials, a whole president has to hire over 10 SANs. pathetic

BTW, you don't hate Kalu, you just hate where he is from. Its evidently glaring in your choice of words in addressing Easterners.
FYI, we don't care. We simply wish you and people like you GOODLUCK in your hating venture.

mykelmeezy:
FTC again



its sad to think this is the man some yeasterners can put forward as their best next presidential candidate

This same man is a million times incompetent by the Easterners standards but a trillion times far better than Obj + Bubu put together. But HATE in ur hate will never allow you to see it.