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Politics / Re: Which Lagos Is A "No Man's" Land? by KimFlorence: 11:29am On Mar 22, 2023
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Politics / Re: Which Lagos Is A "No Man's" Land? by KimFlorence: 11:27am On Mar 22, 2023
Samirana360:
No matter how they want to turn it, Lagos remains a no man’s land... they want to claim a state they used our resources to develop

Your resources?

Do you know how much Lagos State contributes to Federal coffers yearly which is shared by all states? Do you know how much VAT Lagos was contributing to the federal government tax revenue that all states shared? If your resources can't develop your state, how could it develop another man's state even with the 13% monthly derivation which your leaders squandered? Do you know how much FG rakes in from Lagos ports yearly? Didn't you read from the write-up that only part of Fadeyi and Lagos Island was federal capital and not the whole of Lagos State? What is you people's problems gan? The federal government takes from Lagos more than it gives Lagos, how is then your resources used to develop the state. The monies from each region is shared among all the states and your state even benefit from the revenue FG make from Lagos. Stop this trash and ask your leaders what they did with the money they've earned to develop your region. You need to study economics and geography to learn how Lagos got to where it is today and not the money they got from your oil.

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Politics / Which Lagos Is A "No Man's" Land? by KimFlorence: 9:22pm On Mar 21, 2023
*By Rasheed Ojikutu [Professor, Faculty of Management Sciences, University of Lagos], The Guardian, 16 March 2023.

Nigeria is not only an interesting country in terms of its comic nature. It is also a place with people who are unconcerned about the way the world sees them in terms of ignorance and naivete. In this country, people say and do things that makes the country and its people the laughingstock of humanity through crass ignorance which is accompanied by dogmatism, herd mentality and unwillingness to appreciate the truth.

The Yoruba says “ ti enia ba fe je ogunkogun, a pa itankitan” meaning that “ when a man is out to inherit an undeserved property, he would have to fabricate distorted and untrue history”. Why? if one may ask do some people refer to Lagos as a “ No man’s land” despite obvious facts that the city does not qualify at all for the label? To which Lagos are they referring? How would any rational being refer to a place that has clear and undisputed historical origin and tradition as a “No man’s land?”

The phrase no man’s land has existed since the medieval period to refer to a wasteland or a dumping ground and it came to the fore again during First World War when it was used to refer to “a disputed territory” between two countries or an area that is not controlled by anyone. It is generally an area where there is no king or ruler. It is a home for societal deviants and outlaws.

In Nigeria, this phrase was first used in 1947 to describe Lagos by the First Speaker of the House of Representatives and later Minister for Foreign Affairs, Jaja Anucha Nwachukwu. He used this term not because he believed that nobody owns Lagos but because he believed since Lagos was then the Federal Capital Territory, it belongs to all Nigerians. The question is “Which Lagos was Nwachukwu talking about”? Which Lagos was the Federal Capital of Nigeria? Most youths of today are generally disinterested in the history of Nigeria, hence, the profound ignorance about the country and its constituents.

For avoidance of doubt, Lagos State was never the capital of Nigeria. The capital city of the country until the year 1976 when the Justice Akinola Aguda recommended the movement to Abuja was the space between Fadeyi and Victoria Island in Lagos. Any other space from Fadeyi to Asaba to Ondo State to Oyo to Ogbomosho were listed under the Western Region whose Premier was Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. For example, Mushin is not Lagos, Palm-grove is not Lagos, Ikeja is not Lagos, Oshodi is not Lagos and so on. This was the situation until the Mid-Western Region was created from the Benin and Delta provinces in 1963. It is the Mid-West that has become Edo and Delta States today.

The Federal Capital Territory which Jaja Nwachukwu referred to as “No Man’s Land” has clear and unambiguous ownership. It is important to mention that Lagos Island belong to the Aromire family and this is undisputable and not Benin. Apapa belongs to the Oluwa family, Lagos Mainland belongs to the Oloto family, Tomaro to Onisiwo, Victoria Island belongs to the Oniru family, Ikate is the land of the Elegushi family, the whole of Ijora including Ajegunle belongs to the Ojora family and so on. These are lands that are well documented and anyone who cares to know the fact should search the archives in Nigeria and London in search of the truth.

The uninformed and flippant individuals who label Lagos as a “no man’s land” should know that the ownership of Lagos was settled on 11 July 1921 when the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London which is the final Court of Appeal of the British Empire ruled that Lagos lands belong to the Idejo chiefs who are the children of Olofin. Chief Amodu Tijani Oluwa, the Oluwa of Lagos who was the plaintiff in the case took the British Government to Court for stealing his land in the process he won a huge compensation of twenty-two thousand, five-hundred-pound sterling and thirty-nine pence.

Moreover, it is important to mention that it is only one of the five divisions of Lagos State that served as the capital of Nigeria. There is still Ikorodu (Oko Odu) (farm of blackberry) which is an area that includes the entire stretch of the riverine area of Ketu, Owode-Onirin, Itowolo, up to Imota; Badagry (Agbadayigi or simply Agbada) which if from Mile Two to Badagry Town; Ikeja which covers the whole of Bariga, Somolu, Kosofe, Isolo, Mushin, Oshodi, Egbe, Ikotun, Onigbongbo, Ojokoro Ipaja, Ayobo, Ojodu, Orile Agege, Idimu and their neighbourhood; Epe (the forest of black ants) which is from Ibeju to the whole of Epe and its suburbs (Epe shares boundary with Ijebu-Ode). These divisions called ibile were created by Edict number 3 of May 1968.

Lagos as a place has existed long before the country called Nigeria and it is one of the oldest cities in Nigeria. For clear explanation, the Portuguese explorer who gave the name Lagos (Lago de Curamo meaning the Lake of Kuramo) came to the land for the first time in 1472 where he met Olofin and his children (that was 551 years ago) which makes Lagos older than virtually all modern cities in Nigeria.

Let us take a look at the year of existence of some cities. Onitsha (Onicha -mmili ) meaning is a city founded by Benin adventures in the year 1550 (473 year old. Founded almost a century after Lagos had been in existence), Enugu (Enu-Ugwu or Hill Top) was established by the Enugwu-Ngwo and Nike people around 1690). Umuhaia (the Market Place) was established by the British in the early 20th century.

Awka (Place of the blacksmiths) is one of the oldest cities in Igboland and the center of Nri civilization. Sokoto (Seat of the caliphates) was established by Uthman Dan Fodio who used the title Sarkin Musulumi) in 1804. When he died in 1817 his son Mohammed Bello was the first Sultan of Sokoto who ruled the Eastern part of Sokoto while his brother Abdullahi ruled the Western part of it. Kano (Masculinity or Capability) was probably the oldest city in Nigeria as it was established around 999 by the Hausa Bakwai people.

Kaduna (the crocodile city) was founded by Lord Fredrick Lugard in 1900 which is almost 428 years after Lagos has been existing. Abeokuta (city beneath the rock) was founded in 1830 by Sodeke who was the leader of the Egba refugees who escaped from Oyo during the period. Ibadan (near the field) was a war camp created by a group of Oyo warriors in 1829.

We have taken samples of these cities to show that Lagos is older than most cities in Nigeria and therefore it would be childish, naïve and outrightly innocent for anyone to suddenly brand a city that has existed for centuries and adorned with a rich history, an enviable culture and norms with robust traditional administration and a center of Yoruba civilization as a “no man’s land” when the entire civilization of those who are making claim for Lagos was not at all in existence when Lagos was established.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Possible Trump Arrest Today: US Police Forces On Alert by KimFlorence: 8:52am On Mar 21, 2023
Like D. Trump like PO
Politics / Re: PDP Agent Shot Dead While Dragging Ballot Box With Thugs In Ebonyi State by KimFlorence: 11:13am On Mar 20, 2023
They now said it's only Lagos and Tinubu that is doing thuggery for election. *Spits*

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Education / Re: Yorubas In The House, Please Help by KimFlorence: 8:10pm On Mar 15, 2023
"he no wan gree again"
Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 7:14pm On Mar 13, 2023
DaddyJapan:


Ose pupo gan ni o
@KimFlorence - read this message, as here lies my response to your latest post.

Look around you and you will the notice the kokoro ti n je efo are public administrators and politicians we all know.
For example, Mama Amuwo, (Hon) Kehinde Mojisolaoluwa Alli-Macaulay aka Covid-19 Palliative hoarder and GF of a certain politician whom I shan't mention, who did time in a UK Prison but delights in pouring scorn on young people in Nigeria cool


I see them. I see them bro
Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 6:41pm On Mar 13, 2023
DaddyJapan:


Right, it is clear that you think the best way to win the heart and minds of disenfranchised young people is to fling invectives at them. Omo ale one minute, elebodes in the next.

Instead of actively speaking to the cancer that kills within, the uncaring nature of politicians who wheel out the drums once every four years, you go after the victims. Now I fully understand that tyranny of tribe binds us all to a point, but the analogy you presented above is puerile at best.

You can call GRV out for the contempt in which he holds some of the people he wants to "serve" - and you will be perfectly within order - but why proceed to denigrate young people, who refuse to tow the "Baba Sope" line that serves only a cabal.

First, can you expatiate on how the young people have been disenfranchised so far? Who disenfranchised them? I am not a politician neither am I a member of a political party and I am under no obligation to speak to any politician whether they are caring or not. All I do is pray for the country and do my part to contribute to the development of the country. We all know who initiated the tribal and ethnic bigotry especially on Nairaland here since their candidate didn't win the 2015 elections, there were times I almost burst into tears reading vile slurs against Yorubas here because we voted not their choice. The same set of people are now claiming Lagos belongs to nobody so they will be claiming it and we should instead turn to the "uncaring" politicians and picket them?

No one is stoping any young person from contesting in an election and no one is stoping them from registering and collecting their voters card to vote for any "young" candidate they want as long as they are eligible and qualified under state laws.

There is no Nigerian that isn't tribalistic and I believe going our separate ways is the only solution to this national dilemma. They rejected zoning which is the best option for inclusivity, stability and national cohesion because they are so power hungry that they forgot for the nation to achieve stability, all tribes must be carried along.
Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 5:48pm On Mar 13, 2023
DaddyJapan:


Agbekoya okunrin ni DaddyJapan cool

You are attacking fellow Yoruba who needed to remind some acquisitive folk at the centre that no one is ordained to lord it over others.

I made a point - speak directly to it, if you can.






A man who wanted to punish his wife for stealing his money asked his evil friend to help punish his wife by raping her! So they both drugged the wife and did the abominable thing to her. Later the friend confessed to the wife what they did to her with video and audio evidence that he secretly recorded from when he was propositioning him to when they did the unthinkable thing. Little did the man know that this his friend has been admiring and coveting his wife secretly and he'd crafted a plan to snatch the wife from him. In the end he lost his wife, his friend and his children because he wanted "to teach her a lesson". He never recovered them back till today! This is a true story.
Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 3:09pm On Mar 13, 2023
Some people talk as if the Indians, Lebanese, Chinese, Europeans, American, Fulanis/Hausas, Yorubas, Niger-Deltans don't own properties or lands in Lagos, that they own everything or have bought everything, this inferiority complex and dementia is so glaring. There are hundreds of skycrappers in Lagos, let them mention 20 of those wholly owned by an Igbo and I'll believe them. A lot of properties in London are owned by Arabs, Russians, Africans and other European nationals and nobody is making noise about it. Because you own a few properties in Lagos which provided equal opportunities for all Nigerians to grow being a former nation's capital you now claim you own Lagos or you've bought all the properties in Lagos. How about your home states, what have you contributed to it's development instead of claiming to develop other people's lands. Imagine developing other places when you leave your own place underdeveloped and in the trenches. Last time I check, a lot of properties are still owned by the Yorubas in Lagos and the Igbos are just businessmen living mainly in rented houses. Like every city in the world, anyone can buy properties legally if they can afford it. Thousands of Nigerians own houses and properties in the USA and other advanced countries, they can never claim to own the place. There are tens of thousands of Yorubas in the UK alone, they never claim they own part of it, everyone know their history.

Yorubas will learn their lessons this time around and I see many Igbos becoming homeless after the elections and not even the courts can save you. I stopped taking you people serious when you claim to have spent 44 Trillion naira to develop Northern Nigeria. Why can't you spend half of that amount to develop the East and see if Nigerians won't come and settle down there.

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Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 2:50pm On Mar 13, 2023
DaddyJapan:


Those you consider elebodes are well-meaning youths who decided to remind their errant elders that there is need to distribute the wealth fairly. Omode gbon, agba gbon lafi dale Ife!

Ta tun le le yi bayi?

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Politics / Re: The Scramble For Lagos - Lasisi Olagunju (Tribune) by KimFlorence: 11:11am On Mar 13, 2023
I just hope I won't wake up one day and regret being Yoruba after our so-called 'woke' Yorubas, including Macaroni, Falz, Iyabo Ojo and the rest elebodes sold our birthright and lands to swines from outside Yoruba land because of their wokeness. Any Yoruba that votes an enemy of Yorubas in the coming governorship election in Lagos would live out his remaining life as a slave in his own land cos Lagos will be irredeemable if we lose it. When we keep selling lands to them, renting houses to them and giving our daughters to them we thought we're been liberal and accommodating but they are not reciprocating that, rather they want to take over and enslave us, cause us to 'worship' them. I'm sure my dad will be troubled in his grave over this realization, over how Yorubas sold themselves to aliens they once thought are their brothers but who would later become their nightmare.

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Travel / Re: Landlocked Joburg Opens Africa's Largest Made-Made "Mega Beach" (PICS) by KimFlorence: 8:24am On Mar 11, 2023
I don't know why we keep expecting the government to do things for us in Nigeria when we can do great things ourselves if only we have the will.

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Travel / Re: Muhammadu Buhari International Airport In Ebonyi Constructed By Governor Umahi by KimFlorence: 9:56am On Mar 08, 2023
silverkings:
Your fathers sold your ancestral lands to attend Owanbe parties and spray money to Sunny Ade, Ebenezer Obey & Shina Peter, you grow up, instead of you to hustle and know if you can buy the lands back, you sold the remaining one and relocate to Sango, Ikorodu and other suburbs and spray the rest to Wasiu Ayinde, Pasuma Wonder and Small Doctor. Now the buyers of your lands are expanding and consolidating, you begin to cry like babies and start constituting go back to your land nuisance. Oga we are in the lands that we bought from you and will live comfortable on it because we pay you completely and even pay extra while building. You sold your lands and still wants to be landlord, no way. Oga stop crying because you can never eat your cake and have it

Amuluonyenego

Arindin, oponu omo
Politics / Re: These Words Will Keep APC People Sleepless by KimFlorence: 6:55pm On Mar 02, 2023
Softmirror:


WHEN THEY GO TO COURT, THE BATTLE WILL FIRST BE BETWEEN PDP AND LABOUR LOL. BOTH CLAIM TO BE THE WINNER. grin

Hahahahaha

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Have No Business Sense, We Develop Lagos. Nkechi Of Lagos by KimFlorence: 6:46pm On Mar 02, 2023
They don't know what they're asking for. Anything can happen on March 11, anything. Lagosians are tired of these scavengers and lost souls parading Lagos causing problems here and there. Lagos is your land/region my foot. Come out and show us by March 11. Elemi lo ma last.

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Politics / Re: On A Serious Note, The Enemies Of BAT needs to be Serious!!! by KimFlorence: 6:35pm On Mar 02, 2023
We are solidly behind BAT. His enemies are our enemies. If they want war in whatever form, we will take it to them. Enough of the intimidation and the harassment and bullying. I wonder if Tinubu raped some people's mothers that they can't let him be.

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Politics / Re: A Single Word From Peter May Seriously Destroy Nigeria by KimFlorence: 6:28pm On Mar 02, 2023
LegendHero:


Obi is too desperate. Man was even crying like a kid with lost feeder.

I thought Obidients always say he is not desperate. His desperation is even out of the world. The mugu came third, he dey cry say na him get mandate.

Wetin make Atiku come do?

I wonder o. Like Obi like Donald Trump. *Spits*

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Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 1:07pm On Mar 02, 2023
Nwaetche:
Another panicky thread opened today by urchins!

Sanwo-Olu is a minion of Tinubu who never wish Lagos well. lagosians want to return Lagos back to the original owners who are indigenes and other residents stakeholders. They do not want migrant from kwara and elsewhile corrupting their beloved city with Agberos and touts.

grin grin grin


Gbedebo Rhodes-Vivour is a true Lagosian and a true Omoluabi.

Princess Abiodun Islamiyat Oyesfusi is a princess of the ancient kingdom of Ikorodu Lagos.

Both Gbedebo and Princess Abiodun Islamiyat Oyesfusi are running under LP as governorship and deputy governorship candidate respectively.

Obidients as true patriots will help this exemplary Omuluabis win the Lagos back to the indigenes and residents.

We must not allow these migrants urchins to deceive true Lagosians and patriotic residents from voting GRV and the amiable Princess running under the LP flag.

LAGOS is POssible, a prosperous Lagos is POssible.

Èkó E dìde!!


Ori e ti gbale. Real Omoluabi abusing and deriding Yorubas upandan on his threads on Twitter. He never saw this day coming. He is pro-Biafra and pro-Igbo. He calls Yorubas derogatory names and romances the Igbos. He should be a potential leader for all tribes, but no, he chose only to back the Igbos. He is tribalistic and not fit to run Lagos. No experience whatsoever that qualifies him to run a megacity like Lagos. Yorubas have rejected him. He is not for us, he is for ndigbo. He should go and become governor in Abia. Stop replying me, ashiere, ode, elebode person.

Politics / Re: Labour Party Candidate Denounce Yoruba Claim He Is A Biafran by KimFlorence: 9:24am On Mar 02, 2023
raskymonojendor:
The guy. He even used the famous insult IPOB guys use on Nairaland to insult Yorubas.

This one shock me to the marrow
Politics / Re: Don’t Despair, We’ll Retrieve Our Stolen Mandate, Atiku Tells Supporters by KimFlorence: 7:50pm On Mar 01, 2023
Islie:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/03/dont-despair-well-retrieve-our-stolen-mandate-atiku-tells-supporters/

Atiku want to retrieve "stolen" mandate, Obi want to retrieve stolen mandate, Kwakwanso too want to retrieve stolen mandate.

I rest my case.

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Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 7:06pm On Mar 01, 2023
TheNiceGuy:
They vow to vote Rhodes vivour all because of the HATE they have for Tinubu

It will remain a dream for eternity
Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 7:03pm On Mar 01, 2023
babydioku:
So poster what you're saying is that people like tee-mac, dj cuppy, Ramsey nouah and daddy freeze are not yoruba

They didn't know the intentions of the anti-tinubu campaigners and the 'anti-tinubu movement' and this is it - to hijack Lagos, take Lagos from him, they want to own it. But Tinubu never owned Lagos, he's a strongman there, he didn't get there overnight.

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Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 7:00pm On Mar 01, 2023
DMerciful:
You guys followed this f00lish tribalistic posture and lost Lagos in the presidential election. You're still following same posture forgetting that APC even in Lagos has failed.

You think Sanwo-Olu is performing, wait till a new govt enters and you'd see the rot in the ststem. Igbos did not win the presidential election in Lagos, it was Lagosians that did.

Have you wondered why Alimosho voted for Obi? How many Igbos in Alimosho?

Lagos is not for sale

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Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 6:59pm On Mar 01, 2023
spagettiluv:
we can’t have ipob as a governor in Lagos state

E don cast. Omo Ibo and pro-biafra governorship aspirant. Lagos is not for sale.

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Politics / Re: They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 3:20pm On Mar 01, 2023
spagettiluv:
Chinedu

Just imagine. Spits*

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Politics / They Said "Lagos Is Ours" by KimFlorence: 2:11pm On Mar 01, 2023
I think Yorubas are about to lose Lagos like they lost Ilorin to the Fulanis. They have said Lagos is theirs and they're taking it back like they did in the presidential elections. This is their true colour and intention for picking GRV as their candidate in Lagos and they want to push him into office. Lagosians' open your eyes and think for once, is this how you will lose Lagos?

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Politics / Re: ''Pack Your Loads & Leave Lagos" - Godwin Ikuru Threatens Igbos Living In Lagos by KimFlorence: 8:20pm On Feb 28, 2023
OdefaGirl2:



Oh...... Thank God you actually wrote the 2nd to the last sentence. It then means that, even though you all knew Obi was way better than Tinubu ..... you intentionally rigged and manipulated the results to favour your candidate. And for the qualities you aforementioned, you know who beats who when it comes to possessing it.
Pity yourself and your nation and give good people chance to help us out..... Obi did way beyond expectation but lacks rigging structure because he's a man distant from corruption in this corrupt infested nation. In developed countries, good men are ELECTED into offices, they don't grab power like hungry fellows.

You don't know what I know...

You don't want to know

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Politics / Re: Tinubu Wins Rivers State Presidential Election by KimFlorence: 7:44pm On Feb 28, 2023
mikelopez:
This is pure open daylight robbery

The can NEVER escape this rigging

The youths are coming for them

It will happen so fast that they will not be able to escape

Massive Nationwide riots loading

Just wait for INEC to announce the results

220,000,000 people and how many soldiers do we have in the arm forces less than 5,000,000.

The security forces can NEVER crush over 220,000,000 Nigerians

Let that sink

So 220,000,000 Nigerians, including old women and children and those sick or in hospitals will go and protest and cause trouble? Not everyone is foolish like you.

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Politics / Re: ''Pack Your Loads & Leave Lagos" - Godwin Ikuru Threatens Igbos Living In Lagos by KimFlorence: 7:33pm On Feb 28, 2023
OdefaGirl2:



The price of power is the people's uninfluenced choice and not rigging, violence and threats..... You get that? Not doling out cash to bribe your way up. That's the structure of criminality that has held down this nation. Tomorrow you will come here to cry over insecurity, hardship and unfavorable policies fully aware of what you brought upon yourself.

Until Saturday you lots have been screaming into our ears that Tinubu owns Lagos, I wonder the sudden denial. Thank you by the way for drawing my attention to my wrong spelling.....

Go back and read every book on power you can find, then come back and respond. Is power limited to politics or regional influence or financial muscle? Power has to do with wisdom, understanding, foresight, enlightenment, association, connections, spirituality, relationships, will, strength, leadership. The most powerful people in the world do worst than Tinubu will ever do, how many of them have been judged??

No one is stoping you from aspiring to become president or anyone you want to be. Tell me a nation where a nice man ever became a president, who'll allow them? Every nation has its own power brokers, if they don't give you a chance you'd lose or die.

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Politics / Re: ''Pack Your Loads & Leave Lagos" - Godwin Ikuru Threatens Igbos Living In Lagos by KimFlorence: 6:14pm On Feb 28, 2023
OdefaGirl2:



Calm down and drink water.....na same Tinubu's Lagos he loose so🙄

It's "lose", and Tinubu don't own Lagos, he never said he owns Lagos same way PO can't say he owns Anambra. Tinubu is a strongman of Lagos Politics, strongman of politics in Southwest and other parts of Nigeria. He worked to get there, he didn't sit at home making phone calls to get there. If you want power, you go get it and pay the price, you don't rant to power or steal power, it won't work.
Politics / Re: ''Pack Your Loads & Leave Lagos" - Godwin Ikuru Threatens Igbos Living In Lagos by KimFlorence: 8:41am On Feb 28, 2023
Chasito:
Lagos is no man's land, we are not moving an inch.

No one will move you, but WHAT will move you will move you.

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