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tesppidd:
Firstly Ronaldo plays the same position with Mbappe not Messi.

Secondly Ronaldo leads in goals which is natural ( because he is the top striker for Man U).
But Messi leads in assists and chances created for team mates.

So which of the stats do you want to compare

Thirdly 7 ballon dors to 5 ballon dors will forever give you the answer to who has won the debate.

Nuff said.

Another lie....messi is a forward and not a midfielder... below is his last 4 games .. played as a forward.... Ronaldo as plays deep these days... thats y his first goal against spurs was a 30yard screamer...

Accept the fact that ur fraud has been exposed.... we knew this all along... if not for Ronaldo switching clubs, he would be nearing 1000 goals ...u think its easy switching clubs and still banging goals... oya , mk ur fraud do am na

Now explain how he now plays midfield for psg when the formation below shows he is a forward...even the focal point against Nice .... just accept that he is a flop and a fraud ...wetin concern psg fans with unfruitful chances created and shots saved ...na dat one dem go chop or na that one go give them 3 points ??

teebagy:
messi at mbape current age was far better than mbape. Lets see mbape at 35

I have noticed one thing about Messi fans... they hate on any player thats doing better than their fraud....Ronaldo, Lewandowski, now mbappe has joined ....without this same mbappe , they will b 4th or 5th in farmers league... without this same mbappe , they will b playing Europa conference now....

Messi fans were secretly hoping that mbappe will keep on driving them to champions league victory and then , they will claim that it was Messi that gave them champions league... na dia wey... even if Messi finished with the only 5 goals in the CL and mbappe scored 15 goals ... they will say its Messi that gave them CL ...I happy say dem crash ...let mbappe go win it at Madrid... the fraud used suarez to win his last league title... suarez left and won it for atletico in his first season while the fraud languished in 3rd with barca.... now he is gone and barca is back in form and soon bk to their glory days

OJEEMAH:
Your argument is still flawed cos at that age, nobody gets balon d’or nomination for being average which points to the fact that, Ronaldo was barely average when he was at the age Messi got his first nomination.

If you are going to applaud Ronaldo at 37 and criticize Messi at 34, then be kind enough to applaud Messi for doing what Ronaldo couldn’t do at 20.

For u to say Ronaldo was average at 20 , has confirmed what I always knew...that u are a kid ...

tesppidd:
Why didn't Ronaldo score 2 or 3 against Lyon? That way they would have qualified.
They needed 2 or 3 goals not 1.

Shebi you guys are the ones who always say Messi cannot do it singlehandedly but Ronaldo always delivers singlehandedly?

What do you mean delivers more??
Is it only when you score that you deliver more?

Ronaldo is the point man for Man U upfront so he has to score.
Mbappe is the point man for PSG upfront so he must score.

Ronaldo scored 2 against lyon... how many messi score??

BlaqFaze:
Stfu abeg, read before you open mouth like f*ol, I said they were like West Ham pre-2011

For you to say psg was like Westham pre 2011 simply shows u are a toddler

tesppidd:
2022 year

Ronaldo 4 goals and 2 assists
Messi 2 goals and 7 assists


Ronaldo is proving himself but Messi is finished.


Yeye

Who dash am 2 goals... always telling lies.... messhit is on one goal in 2022

tesppidd:
Liar.

Messi has more chances created and assists than Mbappe.

Lies....we now know messi minions are liars ...na mbappe dem wan attack now

LesbianBoy:
Women Are The Reason Why There Is High Rate Of Corruption In Nigeria (Opinion)

So everywhere you look these days in the news, all we see is.....

"50 yahoo boys caught in edo"

"Politician stole so so so billions"

"Man caught will hard drugs indonesia"

"Young boy seen calling and asking his oyinbo client for money"

"Yahoo boy arrested by FBI"

etc.

These headlines are familiar right? Now have you ever sat down and wondered why do all these happen? Why so much desperation to make money by men? Who or what do these men spend the money on most when they succeed? (This is for those that committed these crimes and were successful). Well, believe it or not, argue all you want, i am here to tell you that......


WOMEN ARE THE CAUSE


Think about it!

You see, women have always loved money but don't get it twisted, they want the money to come from men. In Nigeria today, it has gotten to a ridiculous level and UNFORTUNATELY most men would do anything and i mean anything to make money so as to have women! (Nigerian Men don't spend money on their fellow men so no one should bring that up. A thread yesterday about this made the front page).


A lady called Rene came on twitter yesterday and talked about how she receives 7million naira regularly from a friend with no strings attached and some people were doubting her. Some were of the opinion that its not possible for a man to give a woman that much money even if there was string attached. Sorry to say but those people who doubted her are either naïve or feigning ignorance!

The response was almost the same when a guy created a thread here on nairaland that made the frontpage and said he was shocked when a rich guy gave a lady he doesn't know N400,000 just like that just because she is beautiful?


Also, think about it. Why is it that.....


Its only in Nigeria that you will see a young girl with no job, but she is living in her own house in lekki and driving posh cars?

Its only in Nigeria that you will see a young girl that has no job but she travels to different countries wears bikini, hold up bottle of expensive wines and post pictures on instagram?

Its only in Nigeria that you will see an actress that just started acting but she will build houses and drive posh car yet men that has been acting since cannot boast of such?

Its only in Nigeria that you will see BBN girls with no endorsement or just one endorsement but she is flying private jets, eating in fancy restaurant etc but her male counterpart cannot boast of same even though he works hard and you can see the endorsement and work he is doing?

Its only in Nigeria that you will see a lady that has never had a white collar job, has no skill, but she has a "business page" on instagram?


Now, who do you think is behind these women material things? MEN! Not just men but CORRUPT AND FRAUDULENT MEN! Yes! Believe it or not.....

A MAN WHO DOES LEGIT WORK AND WORKS SO HARD TO GET MONEY will not spend recklessly on women! He won't even have such money sef and even if he does, he would have saved it for years and it would 'shake' his account if he dares spends it


For example, will a young man who has a LEGIT JOB and earns say 150,000 naira monthly give a lady like Rene 7 million naira regularly just like that? Or 400,000 to a random lady who is perfectly ok, not stranded nothing at all?

No, think about! So you see, it is criminals that fund these women lifestyle! And many men are tempted to commit crime so they too can spend foolishly on women.


Anyway, until women reduce their love for money, the rate of corruption (which are mostly done by men) in Nigeria will keep increasing!


Meanwhile just take a look at some of the stories of men spending recklessly on women below....




https://mobile.twitter.com/Rene_noire/status/1502938453130022912

I agree its u 100% ...I have only said that if women can start rejecting politicians and guys with questionable characters, crime and corruption will reduce to its barest minimum

SlyfoxxjReturns:
Brady is arguably the GOAT of NFL but Ronaldo is not the GOAT of soccer. It’s like people don’t know what that acronym stands for. Is Ronaldo greater than Pele, Maradona or Ronaldo Nazario? Let’s even leave Messi out of it.

Hv u heard of juice

ThierryJay:
Your uncoordinated points are all over the place. How does what you put up there negate the fact that Messi has been head and shoulders above any other player ever on the pitch of play on the most occasions since global football awards began? Ronaldo may be having a better season than Messi this year, but is he heads and shoulders above or even competing with other best players who are not Messi this year. Definitely no!

Another point is the best biggest teams in Europe for the past few years are Bayern, Man City, Liverpool, PSG, Madrid and Chelsea. How many of these teams has Ronaldo scored against in the past one year? Nada. And how many has Messi scored against in the past one year? 2 of them! I repeat; a hattrick against Tottenham cannot make anybody a GOAT. That is the simple truth.

Again, see how ridiculous you sound trying to belittle a goal that was adjudged the best UCL goal of the group stage just because Messi is the scorer. Very childish analysis and it's a waste of time for anybody who knows his onions to try to start pointing out the abject loopholes in all what you said.

Ronaldo can never match Messi's GOAT status, regardless of what Messi does or does not at PSG. If Ronaldo wants to be GOAT, he needs to better every other player (not just Messi) again for a couple of years cos it seems you have forgotten what a Ballon Dor or FWPOTY means. Fortunately the people that matter in football do not.

U are just living in ur deluded world.... look at how u carefully selected teams that Ronaldo has not played against or teams that he just faced this season for the first time in ages ... he has only faced Chelsea once as a sub , Liverpool and City once after many years and its just his first season for a weak man utd .... thats y they say messi fans keep on feeling smart but end up showing stupidity and bias ...

The last time Ronaldo faced psg and Munich , they collect ... he has never faced madrid in his career , not like he hasn't scored city, Chelsea or Liverpool in the past .... he is just facing them for first time in ages and its just one once ... messi has not scored or assisted against Madrid in his last 10 attempts, he had not scored bayern in his last how many attempts... his goals against psg and Liverpool were fruitless.... cos he still got smashed ...

We all know his goal against city wasn't as good as Thills goal against Madrid or sanes goal against benfica ... it wasn't even as good as Ronaldos goal against atalanta... again the sentiments played out...

Messi is the most overrated player in history of football.... if Ronaldo was playing for psg , he will b on 30 goals by now... he is 2nd top scorer in the EPL despite playing for a weak side at the age of 37... what has messi truly achieved if not for iniesta, xavi and di Maria... he doesn't perform in big games.... 2 league goals in 18 games in a farmers league ... he has been exposed , no difference between him and hazard in Madrid por Shevchenko in Chelsea.... he carried his badluck to psg , by bottling up leads as usual... a team that got to the final and semi final in the past 2 seasons... he carried his spirit of R16 elimination and bottling up leads to psg ... thats y fans booed the hell out of him in the last game ..... neymar that has only played 8 league games this season is already on 5 goals ... ur fraud is on 2 goals in 18 games.... Ibrahimovic, cavanni , icardi , mbappe, di Maria, draxler , neymar all scored loads of goals in their first season in the farmer's league with psg .... no cover up wey una never use... he is a midfielder , he is trying to adjust , he assisted , he had shots on target , its pochetinno , its the defense , the midfield dont like passing to him , its Neymar , his teammates are greedy and want to score , the food is not good , he is adjusting to weather , his heart is still with barca ....nothing wey una no go talk ... he keeps on embarrassing his deluded fans while Ronaldo keeps shining


I asked u to mention a big game in which he influenced his team to victory, but u have failed to do so cos u know deep down that he is overatted

Gbest90:
My point exactly.

So why are you guys making a big deal of it.

Its a big deal cos spurs came back 2 times and he scored the winner with 10mins to go against a team that is fighting 4th place with them

I will do the same.... she is a foolish woman ... its like going for a job interview with dreads or a visible tattoo

Gbest90:
He tried fine.

But make una rest na. Haba.

Na hatrick e score, e no win golden boot.

It wasn't just the hattrick, but the way he did it... again , he is so fantastic that scoring a hattrick seems like no big deal

paulolee:
lolz...ignore this gees....hattrick wey dm go forget n still insult d guy wen tinz goes wrong as time goes on..
I jus pray for arsenal consistency in d league to seal dt top4 and I'll ask questions about a particular goat dt was good enough to lead its team trophiless n down to europa..
Juve excaped sane last season bt dis united team would need a miracle to do so..

Una go still tire ... Ronaldo will keep on embarrassing u haters ... now, hattrick is now trash cos he did it for a dead man utd against spurs that are also a top club... better face ur ewure that was booed yesterday

ThierryJay:
GOAT in your dreams. So because he scored a hatrick against a 7th place team at 37, he's calling himself GOAT.

Was Josef Bican the GOAT all these while when he was the highest goalscorer ever at 805goals?

Any day anytime, a player with the highest number of Ballon dor and FIfa best awards will always be regarded greater than a player with most hatricks and goals. Only Hollywood football ignorami will think otherwise.

Messi is football's Tom Brady.

Abeg don't taint Bradys legendary with that fraud farmer... GOATs recognise GOATs , thats y he went to watch his fellow GOAT play and not one over hyped farmer

After the GOAT of American football Tom Brady watched Ronaldo the GOAT of football, he was so inspired that he announced that he is coming out of retirement to the game of American football... no sportsman dead or alive is as inspiring as CR7 .... if Ronaldo can score a hattrick against a rival at 37 , y cant he keep going in American football....

People that draw inspiration from Ronaldo are easily successful in life .... example Mbappe , halaand, Lewandowski, Benzema.... these 4 all got their inspiration from Ronaldo....


Only intelligent people can understand y Ronaldo is the greatest of all time

DarkJeddi:
Man Utd bottling up is what they have been doing all season long..

A ragtag team with no direction..

Nine must win matches for Harry The Fridge and the FAKE Ronaldo..

U just pained and bitter... no arsenal player past and present can ever measure up ...he destroyed u guys even at this season already, and will still destroy u guys again at 37... u know he knows how to deal with ur fake club ... others de talk , arsenal too follow think say them get opinion .... u guys are destined for Europa , thats whr una belong ... Anyone that knows arsenal well ,know that arsenal are usually useless beginning and ending of every season

ThierryJay:
Awards largely determine the greatest. They are not given in isolation but based on pitch achievements.

There were no global football awards during time of Maradona and Pele, only regional based awards which both players were not a part of. Global awards started in 1991 (FWPOTY).

Owen, Nedved and Shevy's wins of Ballon dor in 2001, 2003 & 2004 were for European FOTY. That time, FPOTY was still the only global award for the world best and neither of the three ever ranked above Henry in the top three FWPOTY nominations from 2001 to 2006. Meaning that the only global award then ranks Henry higher than these other 3 players. Ballon dor became a global best award in 2009.

Hear this loud and clear: Ronaldo De Lima lasted at the top from 1995 to 2004 and had even retired by age 34. Marco Van Basten spent less than 10 years at the top and had retired by 28. Yet, both are considered widely greater than Zlatan Ibrahimovic who is still playing top football for a top club at 40 years old. Ibrahimovic has more goals than both but doesnt hold a candle to both.

How is Messi only influential for 13 years? So he inspiring Argentina to win Copa 2021 as highest scorer and best tournament player is not influential abi? Let alone winning spanish pichichi for 2019 and 2020. You just throw around words that you dont even understand the meaning of. Both Messi and Ronaldo have been influential for the past 16 years.

Tell me when was the last truly big game Ronaldo performed well? That would be since his Juve days. Where was he against Liverpool, Mancity and Chelsea? Or were you not aware of Messi's exploits against Man city? Scored them in the first leg and created the opportunity for Mbappe's goal in the second leg. Tottenham, Arsenal, Atalanta and Villarreal are decent teams in the same class with Leipzig, Lille, Sevilla, Valencia all of whom Messi also performed well against within the past one year. To top that, Messi's performance against PSG and Mancity trumps any other performance by CR against the biggest teams in the last one year. So what are you saying?

I have dismantled all your faulty assertions masked as truth.

Being GOAT is an innate and a permanent thing. Not something conferred by an average Tottenham side or passing Josef Bican who wasnt even a top 10 best ever. Being the GOAT is to be Lionel Messi.

Lol...what performance against psg ?? The one he was disgraced out 5.2 after also missing a penalty... what did he play against city in both legs apart from stroling around ...that he scored one goal just like mbappe and Gana did now automatically means he influenced those games ?? How did he influence those games and still ended up loosing and finishing second.... the only influencer in psg is mbappe ... every single goal messi has scored this season came from mbappe.... his 5 goals came from mbappe , his 2 penalties were both won by mbappe ....and the 3rd penalty he for the season he missed against Madrid also came from mbappe .... messi is the most overrated player in history of football...and I am glad he has been exposed as we all knew from time... he was also wrecking barca ...now look at how fantastic barca has been .... destroying teams and are poised to win a cup in Europe

ThierryJay:
Awards largely determine the greatest. They are not given in isolation but based on pitch achievements.

There were no global football awards during time of Maradona and Pele, only regional bases awards which both players were not a part of. Global awards started in 1991 (FWPOTY).

Owen, Nedved and Shevy's wins of Ballon dor in 2001, 2003 & 2004 were for European FOTY. That time, FPOTY was still the only global award for the world best and neither of the three ever ranked above Henry in the top three FWPOTY nominations from 2001 to 2006. Meaning that the only global award then ranks Henry higher than these other 3 players.

Hear this loud and clear: Ronaldo De Lima lasted at the top from 1995 to 2004 and had even retired by age 34. Marco Van Basten spent less than 10 years at the top and had retired by 28. Yet, both are considered widely greater than Zlatan Ibrahimovic who is still playing top football for a top club at 40 years old. Ibrahimovic has more goals than both but doesnt hold a candle to both.

How is Messi only influential for 13 years? So he inspiring Argentina to win Copa 2021 as highest scorer and best tournament player is not influential abi? Let alone winning spanish pichichi for 2019 and 2020. You just throw around words that you dont even understand the meaning of.

Tell me when was the last truly big game Ronaldo performed well? That would be since his Juve days. Where was he against Liverpool, Mancity and Chelsea? Or were you not aware of Messi's exploits against Man city? Scored them in the first leg and created the opportunity for Mbappe's goal in the second leg. Tottenham Atalanta and Villarreal are in the same class with Leipzig, Lille, Sevilla, Valencia all of whom Messi also performed well against within the past one year. To top that, Messi against PSG and Mancity trumps any other big performance by CR in the last one year. So what are you saying

I have dismantled all your faulty assertions masked as truth.

U cant compare Ibrahimovic situation with Ronaldo... Ibrahimovic only have won league titles, he has never won a tournament in his career , Van Basten and Ronaldo did... Ronaldo dint last from 95-04 cos he was out of football from 99-02... Ronaldo only won 2 league titles in Europe... Ronaldo was just lucky to have played for Brazil...

Ronaldo performed brilliantly against inter Milan in the semi final of the copa Italia last season, scoring a brace from a goal down to win 2.1... Ronaldo vs atletico .... Ronaldo vs Ireland in September, Ronaldo vs Barcelona to take Juventus to the top of their group... Ronaldo vs lyon in 2020 scoring a brace to win 2.1 ... Ronaldo vs Arsenal ... scoring the equaliser and winner , Ronaldo vs spurs in both games ... Ronaldo vs Switzerland , scored a hattrick to send Portugal to the final ofvthe nations league... Ronaldo scoring the only goal against Milan in the cup final .... he scored winners against atalanta, napoli , roma last season to keep them going for top 4...all these are from 2019 to 2022 in 3 years ... now tell me what messi has don in big games in the past 2 yrs ??

And u should know the difference between playing a big team and playing a big game ... messi has not influenced any big game to victory in many years now ...

SultanOfPuna:
Cover the Rashes with the Blood of Jesus
That's how Righteousness cured his herpes.

Stop making a mockery of God

DarkJeddi:
Man United still have..

Chelsea..

Liverpool..

Arsenal..

And they have THREE MATCHES LESS..

To play around with..

If Arsenal has it TOUGH to make top 4..

Man United has it TRIPLE TOUGH to overhaul Arsenal..

And since you seem to be a connoisseur of Arsenal stats..

Arsenal TRADITONALLY have their best season runs as the season closes..

Arsenal that are the founders of bottling up...

Topmaike007:
arsenal have 3 games at hand and they're 2 points ahead of united

Liverpool
Chelsea
Spurs

Those are the outstanding games.... arsenal have not collected a point from any of Chelsea man city Liverpool and utd this season ... Arsenal are experts at giving false hope

Antoeni:
I Hope My Dad is Seeing dis Ooo

Hope ur children don't see the same thing

Atimjessy:
I am a girl, ma

I'm a guy ...he is doing the right thing to be honest... alot of girls that acted like u and rebelled against their brothers ended up regretting it... a woman can only be valued by her past... men and ur female friends will end up manipulating u into have indiscriminate sex , men will be all over u and ud be getting attention...but trust me , they will treat u like trash in the future when they find out that u have an unpleasant past ...no matter ur beauty or attitude, ud loose respect towards men that would wanna take u seriously when u grow older.....

andrewbaba44:
I get sense pass your papa at least

Messi won 7th ballon d or una cry ,Messi get bad form una still Dey cry ,Na only una know una problem

Will Ronaldo even win any trophy this season ? I think so ,scoring hatrick against spurs Issa trophy I am sure

I am fine with you kid


Keep crying man

U have been certified a fool with watery brain ... pig

Words of a simp... mumu man , she only has a better way of hiding it, a cheat is a loose Canon that has no morals or dignity, u have a LovePeddler wife but u still living in denial.

Verdict


.... she belongs to the street

andrewbaba44:
At least common sense suppose tell you say the fa cup Na 1 leg game and with Ronaldo scoring they might have won boro

Messi has already lost the pk in the first leg and psg where 2 goals up in the second leg before they crumbled to a Madrid side ,not an ekuke division 2 team like Middlesbrough

Everything is not all about Messi and cr7 all the time ,I know many of you are still pained Messi got more ballon d or and nothing can change that no matter how you rant all over Nairaland ,you can catch fun on all Messi post while it last

Let’s see if Ronaldo will take Man U to Europa league as he almost did at juve if not for Napoli stupidity

The koko be say Ronaldo will not win ballon d or any longer to meet up with his nightmare

U see y I say messi fans are just too dull... infact I'm sure if both fans are place in an IQ test ... the first top half will be Ronaldo fans and the lover half will be messi fans ...

Whats the difference between 1 leg and 2legs ... logic will determine that if Messi scored that penalty, that game wud have been open for psg as madrid would hv come out to play and psg wud have taken the advantage, just like they did against city cos they were home , that game wud hv ended 2 or 3 nil cos benzema wasn't even fit to play ...

ThierryJay:
Dont doubt Ronaldo, yes. But not doubting him will never make him the Goat.

He cannot be GOAT simply because he is the games highest goalscorer or because he scored a hatrick against a 7th place team at 37.

Was Josef Bican considered the GOAT when he was highest scorer ever over Pele?

Was Quadriagella the GOAT when at 37 years old, he scored a whopping 36 goals in Serie A to win the golden boot over a 34 year old Cristiano?

You cannot be lizard material 2 months ago and Goat material today. Being the best isnt a yo-yo matter.

Anyday anytime, a player with the highest amount of Ballon dors and fifa world best awards will always be regarded greater than another with highest number of hattricks and goals. Only football dunces will think otherwise.

Sorry, but Tottenham can never make you a Goat. Same way it wasn't Sevilla or Real Sociedad that made Messi the GOAT.

Awards can never determine the greatest... Pele, Maradona dint get awards but are considered the greatest ... iniesta is above modric , despite modric winning the balon dor... or will u say Nedved was also better than iniesta ?? Or will u say Micheal Owen and Shevchenko were better than Thierry Henry ?? How can u say awards plagued by sentiments determines the greatest.... pitch achievements , determines the greatest and not awards , versatility determines the greatest and not awards , influence to winning different trophies determines the greatest and not awards ... Ronaldo has been the most influential player in his team for both club and Country for the past 16 years , despite switching clubs 4 times... No human being, I repeat, no human being has achieved that in the history of football... messi who is next only did 13 yrs .... its certain messi has gassed out at 34 .... messi can't influence games anymore... I can't even remember the last time Messi played well in a big game .... whats happening in barca presently simply shows messi was actually the problem in barca... he had declined , but they still played for and around him... no that he has left, barca is doing extremely well and will most certainly finish 2nd this season while messi keeps on declining

Stop being a simp and go make loads of cash

andrewbaba44:
Messi was not at fault for Psg comeback

They where already 2 goals up in aggregate and conceded 3 immediately ,the 3 goals they conceded wasn’t Messi fault ,or maybe Messi is donarumma that did that error ba

Same way messi fans blamed Ronaldo for missing a penalty after utd got knocked off the FA cup , despite sancho still scoring later on to give utd the lead... we are only paying messi fans back in their own coin for them to see how it feels

andrewbaba44:
Booing them for loosing against a Madrid side that worked so hard and deserved to win as if neymar and Messi Na donarumma or the defenders

Booing neymar and Messi and leaving the defenders

Booing them as if they have been winning the champions league every season or they have even won one before

Misplaced priorities, they didn’t boo mbappe and neymar when they wasted so many chance against Bayern at last 2 season champions league finals

Misplaced priorities,Messi has one more year at Psg while neymar has 3 more years

Messi was among the culprits for missing the penalty....

Pricelezz:
And Messi was a Balon D’or nominee (2007) at the age(20) Ronaldo was struggling to find his feet.

If you are going to use age to criticize him, then applaud him for his exploit at a young age.

The future will always b more important than the past...I get am b4 no b property