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Contango:
Fair enough. But the conclusion of the argument would be that Messi still eclipses Ronaldo in goal scoring and assist tally. Don’t forget that Messi is not a striker. He starts from the wing and shuffles around depending on need.

Ronaldo is always around the 18yard box waiting to score. It is expected that he ought to have more goals that someone who is more of a midfielder

Stop saying that crap...he is has been a striker/ winger for over a decade now

Messi winning it will be broad light ojoro.... they can't keep on shifting it in favour of him... 2007 Milan CL victory , kaka wins , 2008 man u CL victory C.Ronaldo wins , 2009 barca CL victory messi wins, then it scattered from 2010 to favour messi , 2010 inter CL victory ( World Cup year) Sneijder wins CL and takes Holland to WC final , messi wins ... 2011 barca CL final messi wins again , 2012 Chelsea wins CL messi wins again... 2013 bayern wins Ronaldo wins cos they said messi won the last due to goals, they had no choice but to give Ronaldo cos he scored over 70 goals that year and if he dint win it , messi for win am cos ribery still came 3rd ... 2014 Madrid CL Ronaldo wins , 2015 barca CL messi wins, 2016 madrid CL Ronaldo wins , coupled with the Euros ...2017 Madrid CL Ronaldo wins, 2018 Madrid CL modric wins cos he took Croatia to the final , same thing Sneijder did in 2010 ...2019 Liverpool CL messi wins cos he win European golden boot and la liga, 2020 bayern CL no award , 2021 Chelsea but they want messi to win it cos of copa despite doing poorly in the CL and finishing 3rd in la liga but Lewandowski that won European golden boot and bundesliga dont deserve it, same reason messi won in 2019....

This award should be scrapped

lammy197:
six attempts sir copa teams will beat the likes of hungary and wales

When Argentina cudnt beat ordinary Iceland fot last world cup

lammy197:
and you said I'm stat padding who dey count parried shot now if we are to compare messi contribution to Copa win and Ronaldo's to euro win messi comes out on top all you can say is fantastic goals and assists and Ronaldo had just one official assists

We talking about how the goal happened... u messi people talk about his dribbles and chances created and key passes which is trash as it dint result to a goal

lammy197:
but euro has importance abi even if salah should have a good afcon it's gonna be important before he won it y'all saying he doesn't have international trophy now he don win am Copa America is not an important trophy

We said " even ordinary copa de hard am" after 9 attempts for an 8 team tournament

unbitchable:
You know nothing. it's fans vote, anytime they nominate the old fraud, his fans will keep voting for him and that's more money for the organizers. fraud!

Fans don't vote for player of the month...if it were like that , he will win it monthly... better go and face the midget fraud that ran to cultivate with farmers

Mastakija:
if this movie is not a series movie I'd b dieing to watch it
Im not really a fan of series movies though

I'm with u on this

unbitchable:
Keep celebrating fraud. He has the highest followers on Instagram, so English FA needs his followers for patronage, subscription and tickets. Other players who are better than him on the pitch do not matter.

Same thing u all said during his time in Italy ...una no de tire

drsibz66:
Ronaldo didnt score against aston villa and everton. They lost and drew while salah help liverpool to 2 draws by scoring against Brentford and manc. So.it robbery

Everton and man city were both in October

Dannyset:
But Messi fans are not Measi na!

You don't transfer aggression. You can't be attacking someone because you feel their fans are unreasonable. It makes you pass unfair judgement.

Lol...he doesn't read our posts...his fans do

Vinnie2000:
Lolss...

Ur Guy Ronaldo is a Beast!!

But Messi is a Monster!!

Laslas, Kudos to both Legends!!
They are Multi- Billionaires while we football fans argue their matter everyday!

Lol...thats the fun about it

emmysmith13:
Mugu when did October start.

His game against man city was this month ...that was his best game ....

unbitchable:
This award is a sham. Either Ismaila sarr or Mo sallah were more deserving of it than the old fraud.
2 tap ins against Newscatle(the whipping boys) + 1tapin against West Ham. People are now calling out the fraud.

The Emperor...keep on shaming them....I love their tears ...it makes me feel goood like the enjoyment minister in the cowbell advert

Vinnie2000:
Poops!
This Ronaldo Strong Fan!

Ur Points made some good sense!

This is the Mentality of Hausa Alhajis oo!

But the Girl should get to @least 19, 20 years of age! The Anatomy of a Female Fully Develops at that Stage!!

My points are always valid ... but ur loyalty to messi no go gree u see road

Dannyset:
You see these people as Professionals but yet you fail to see they are also businessmen.

Most of this money doesn't go into freestyle, but also to polish their status so they can remain relevant, and this involves lots of organisations and individuals.

That money goes into a lot, so they can't afford to go a single month running a pro bono.

I said what I said for those that said its not about money bk then cos they were making excuses for messi .... u know messi fans love making excuses for him when he fails .... they were the ones that started the assist talk, now they hv entered chances created and cross bars plus key passes as guy man no de score again... they said he was too loyal to leave barca ...

Asour:
Really ? World cup of 3 years ago!
Matter of fact, a new one comes up next year.

What did Mbappe do at the Euros 3 month ago.
You cleverly omitted that to bring back a 3 years ago performance.
Haaland was the top scorer in UCL (although again, there's no award like top scorer of UCL) and he crashed out in quarter finals . How decisive were his goals then?

DFP Pokal is not a major trophy you should use to brag about a player's decisiveness.

He had a bad tournament just like messi also had a bad world cup ...u should not omit that as well.... the copa all of a sudden is important cos messi won it... a trophy no one cared about.... Brazil won it in 2019 , no one cared or even nominated any of their players

kinzation:
Damn
That's serious

Pervs and Paedophiles are evil.beings

Mary the mother of Jesus was 15 when she delivered the king of Kings...white civilization is just creating what they want to promote promiscuity... the truth is that woman originally are meant to get married at 13, 14 ...thats how God made it, thats y they start seeing their period at that time to be able to bare children...thats God's original plan... women are not meant to run into the 20s or 30s b4 getting married cos thats y we have large promiscuity these days... every woman is meant to marry as a virgin and men are meant to get married at 18 19 20.... if we maintained it like God's plan, u wudnt be seeing so much immorality we see these days ... the Muslims still maintain that ... the truth is the Muslims act more like christ time than the Christians

lammy197:
messi in Copa America 4 goals 5 assists 21 chances created compare Ronaldo stats in his euro triumph with it you are trying to sound intelligent but it's otherwise

U people have come with ur chances created...when did this one start...y do u messi fans like stat padding like this ... u guys hv also started to count number of balls that hit the crossbar oh my goodness

lammy197:
do you know your Ronaldo went Missing in euro 2016 too except against Wales and Hungary

Went missing really..and he scored decisive goals... against Hungary, they needed a draw to qualify, he scored 2 times and assisted once...fantastic assist and fantastic goals and they were all come back goals ... against Croatia his shot was parried by the goolie to Quarema who tapped into an empty net to win 1.0 ... against Wales in the semis he scored the opening and assisted nani with the second goal... 3 goals and 2 assists out of the 7goals Portugal scored when he was on the pitch

He should be arrested for such audacity

Asour:
Funny how you said both Mbappe & Haaland have been more decisive than Messi.

Euro 2020 stats.

Haaland - Could not help his country qualify.
Mbappe - 0 goals 1 assist. Missing Penalty against Switzerland. Flat performances at the tournament.

Also Haaland has yet to win a major trophy for BVB.
Am I criticizing these guys harshly? No. I'm just pointing out loops in your argument of them being decisive.

Yet you claim I'm a troll.
Well you judge.

Haaland won the DFP pokal last season ...he was CL top scorer last season... mbappe was also decisive in winning the world cup for France...scored 2 crucial goals against Argentina....also scored the crucial goals that knocked barca out of CL ... name one crucial game that Messi won last season for club or county... Bolivia and Ecuador...Argentina was already leading comfortably b4 he scored in the dying minutes

abbey621:
Don't bother replying, it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about!

Mention the impact... scoring minors when we all know the team will still win without his contribution...Argentina without Messi will still trash Bolivia and Ecuador... they have the players to do so

Asour:
You said not me. I merely quoted your contradiction.

which is it? Was he sacked or he resigned. It can't be both.

So u hvnt seen a situation whr by ud resign to save ur reputation b4 u get the kick??

Asour:
Re-read my statement. I said almost.

Explain how Juventus can win the League 7 straight years an then make UCL finals in 2 years. Semi finals a few more times. Sign CR7 an d then fail to
Win both UCL and Serie A.

By 'almost' I mean that Juve would have NOT qualified for UCL of not for Napoli failing to win their last league game last season. I.e. at that point qualifying for UCL was out of Juve's hands.

Explain.

Ask urself whr they finished in the CL b4 Ronaldo joined ...also asked urself whr they finished on 2016.... now ask urself if they were the same players that featured in those 2 finals in 2015 , 7 yrs ago and 2017 and getting trashed 4.1 , a year b4 he joined ... in 2016 they were knocked out in the round of 16 ... so let's also say Robin van persie is the reason y man u collapse, cos they played 3 finals in the champions league with 5 years b4 he joined .... I really don't know how u guys think... can u compare the players and coach that took juve to the final 2 times with the one Ronaldo played with... Pogba, pirlo, buffon, dani Alves, khedira , Douglas Costa, tevez, inform higuain, younger bonucci and chielini, Bazargli , cancelo , inform sandro, matuidi , fit dybala, Mandzukic, Evra, camorenesi ,...can u use those to compare the clowns the have now ...apart from chiesa , cudrado , deligt , who else is worth a mention ??

Asour:
You are contradicting yourself.

Zidane has never been sacked by Madrid in all his stints there.

In your first paragraph you say that Zidane was asked to leave. In your last paragraph, you again said he resigned because he was afraid.
Which is it ?

Madrid does not sacrifice any trophy.
That's how they became the most successful club in history.

I really don't know ur experience in football..butvi think u just started mayb a decade ago... u really don't know real madrid.... talking about zidane , the same thing with Mourinho, u don't hv to be sacked ...resignation comes with a reason... if they dint resign, they wud hv been sacked ... more like preserving their reputation

abbey621:
You're a comedian, last I checked he was still the number 2 highest goalscorer in champions league history and still had the highest goal total in the 2018 competiion. Name one player that you can say without any doubt played better than Messi when we compare the last 7 years, your closest guess would be cristiano and yet using your champions league stat as basis, he hasn't won highest goal scorer since 2017, so what are you smoking? All the other points you made are just plain dumb, nobody can deny his impact on barca and recently on Argentina winning the Copa, if you must argue, do it with sense!

Ronaldo has been better in the past 7 years.... 3 CL titles, 3 league titles, the Euros , CL top scorer 4 times in the past 7 yrs .. balon dor 2 times...even tho we know its 3 ( forget the modric wayo) what impact did he have on Argentina winning it?? Scoring Ecuador and Bolivia in group games and when it mattered the most Colombia semis and Brazil final , he went missing again ,just like he always does in most big games ... mention one decisive goal messi has scored in the champions league or world cup during this same period??

Asour:
What the man said is not a brag.
In fact, if he was proud he would not have said that.

He said Messi rejected their offer of doubling whatever Barca was to pay him.

On whether or not Madrid was keen on winning the La Liga as a priority that NOT true.

Could you explain the comments below by Zidane?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/story/4138594/real-madrids-zidane-la-liga-title-better-than-champions-league%3fplatform=amp

Saying that a club like Madrid prioritizes UCL against Laliga is a laughable comment on your part.
Madrid is the most successful club in European history. They don't prioritize one against the other. They just couldn't win it.

Why did it take Madrid till 2014 to win UCL after signing CR7 in 2009? Does it have anything to do with the arrival of Kroos & Bale? Why didn't CR7 win the UCL with Juventus since he is so decisive?

You have left many questions unanswered.

U have started to sound like a troll... I will stop replying u... has Madrid ever sacked a coach for not winning la liga?? Madrid that sacked De bosque days after winning the league cos he failed in the CL.... also sacked Mourinho for failing to win the CL despite winning la liga the previous year .... asked zidane to leave despite winning the league title the previous year and finishing 2nd , a point behind atletico but because they lost to Chelsea in the CL , he knew his time was up... u dont know how real madrid operate.... zidane was there for 3 seasons despite winning the league title once ...but because he won the CL 3 times in a role, he dint loose his job ... the moment Ronaldo left for juve , he resigned cos he knew he had no chance to win it again as Ronaldo had left and he knew the nextvthing was sack

Asour:
What's a decisive goal?

What decisive goal has Haaland scored in the last 2 years? Give me one. I assume a decisive goal should give you a trophy.


Mbappe was almost useless at the Euros.
0 goals 1 assist. You cleverly omitted that.
Mbappe missed a penalty against Switzerland. You carefully omitted that.
Mbappe did nothing and lost the champions league to Bayern in a final where he had a flat performance.

By the way there's nothing 'Officially' like highest goal scorer in champions League. Only we fans record such.

Also explain to us why CR7 failed to win the UCL for Juventus in his seasons with them? He almost made them not qualify for UCL this year and had them end their Serie A 7 years winning streak.

Are u sure u are familiar with football?? Did u just say he failed to qualify juve for UCL??

Again talking about winning it with juve....he did what no one will do including messi at juve... he scored all 7 goals that juve scored in the knockout stage in his first 2 seasons... that was a champions league winning performance from an individual... if other also put half of his efforts like in Madrid or Manchester , it wud hv been a done deal for juve .... at barca , the whole team always crumbled, Messi inclusive... dontvalso forget Ronaldo's age ... he is almost 37 ... u dont expect him to be as explosive as he used to b .... and how did he have them end their league winning streak ?? Are u really inclined with football...or a hater cos u are beginning to sound as one and I dont reply trolls ... he scored over 100 goals in his 3 years and u say he is the reason y they failed to win the league... he was serie a top scorer last season with 29 goals but inter won it with lukaku their top scorer hitting 23 goals... what does that tell u?? Or can't u see juve is struggling at serie a now in 8 position...

OlawaleBammie:
what about francesco totti

Totti and Gerrard had no one they were competing with ... messi might hv remained in barca if the comparison with Ronaldo was non existence cos he has won it all with barca... he joined psg to see if he can win CL cos no hope of winning it with barca again

ifex370:
Lol. Funny guy

Nwoke'm kedu?

No be by that one..if u want me to type in Greek or arab , I will now now due to Google.... even if u are igbo , then u are not deep rooted ...afterall Joe igbokwe is igbo

Asour:
I quoted Mulbarak Al-Khaddon and you said these are lies. I'm not talking about this year these are 2014 -2017 happenings.

Al-Khaddon is not a football person. He is the head of Saudi's Sovereign wealth Fund company. There's no incentive for him to lie here. (Google him).

You said CR7 is decisive goal scorer yet he won only 2 La Liga titles in 9 years. The same number of titles as Robinho in Madrid (who is considered a flop there).

How does Messi have more Golden boots & Pichichi & titles than 99% (including ronaldo) of all active players today by not scoring decisive goals.

All clubs have their targets and priorities..real madrid are more inclined to champions league....they are focused on champions league... barca had a better team than real madrid.... but Ronaldo was the factor on y they won more of the champions league... I can also argue that y did messi only win the CL 2 times while Ronaldo won it 4 times during the same period...

Champions league is toughest cos u have the beat of the best compete... the league is a 38 game competition, the psychology of playing the league is different from the CL... talking about the pichichi , we can also argue that y does Ronaldo have more top goal scorer in the CL ...

The guy u mentioned is not the part ofvthe management...he is the owner and u know how owners talk carelessly just to brag....

Asour:
Check the dates of these below.


https://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spanish-football/2009/08/11/1434873/manchester-city-offer-barcelona-star-lionel-messi-blank

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/opinion/2017/12/05/5a266e1a468aebf91d8b456e.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2800660-manchester-city-offered-to-triple-lionel-messis-wages-says-khaldoon-al-mubarak.amp.html

Lol..all those are stories that are not credible.... they are just talk cis barca said no one ever dropped an offer for messi ...no one was ready to pay his wages .... these guys see what u people don't see.... no one will pay much for a man over 30 that had struggled to win a trophy for country or even reached the final of the Champions league .... the reason juve signed Ronaldo wasn't just cos of his goals ...he was the most decisive player at that time in football...had won champions league bk to bk to bk as top scorer, league title, the Euros ... and he scored lots of decisive goals... he goatva 4 yr contract at juve at the same age messi is as of now...but psg only gave him 2 yrs ....