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Pastor AIO:
To avoid obsfuscation the real interpretation should read:

And the Elohim said, Let us make Adam in our own image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.

The text then goes on to say:

So the Elohim created Adam in his own image, in the image of the Elohim he created him, male and female he created them.

Points to note:

the Elohim are plural.  This is the name of the Canaanite pantheon.

What was created was Adam.  Adam means man in Hebrew.  Is the reference here to a single individual man, or to the human species?

What exactly is this image?  I've heard many preachers try to bring in the trinity and say that man was created as a tripartite being because God is trinity too.  then they bring in the theory of man being Body, Spirit, and Soul or some other such nonsense. 

Actually the bible is a lot more specific.  Adam was created in the image of the Elohim means that Man was created with a intimate (se xual) polarity.  Male and Female. This is the image of the Elohim. Adam was created with both Male and Female propensities within him. Can you back that with Scripture I'd caution that we be careful in picking things that aren't in scripture and making facts of them
Perhaps it will be useful to cite the opinion of Jewish scholars whose tradition this actually is:

http://sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/zdm043.htm

THe sentence itself explains.

Let US make man in our IMAGE.

This clearly explains the concept of the trinity. He didn't say images, he said IMAGE.

If an "US" has one IMAGE, There is either a grammatical blunder (which we all know it isn't) or there is a message of deep insight within.


Jesus was/is/and never be a creation. Read John 1 clearly.

Mobinga:
It is First Gentleman.

That's Correct. the Queen of England is not an elected official. Consort is used for such occasions like monarchy etc.

Lady-Woman; Gentleman-Man
First Lady- Wife of President
First Gentleman- Husband of President

CONGRATULATIONS TO JOAGBAJE _{(even though i don't agree with his position most of the time)}

however, this 'award' is not for the most religious person on the forum, it is not for the most 'Christian' fellow.
it is about posting!!!! and Joagbaje has done quite well incontrovertibly as far as posting is concerned.
Not posting insults or senseless threads, he has posted well and thus has won by popular vote!
simple!

_{the voter turnout wasn't impressive tho'}

hey. i found a santa claus yesterday. (i suspect he hasn't met his target from the north pole bank plc )

WONDERLAND, BESIDE NATIONAL STADIUM. IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED THO'

@LagosShia,
Since you are bent to "indicting" God , i'll quote you a passage in scripture which we will together analyse

[b]1Ki 22:7  And Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a prophet of the LORD besides, that we might enquire of him?
1Ki 22:8  And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.
1Ki 22:9  Then the king of Israel called an officer, and said, Hasten hither Micaiah the son of Imlah.
1Ki 22:10  And the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah sat each on his throne, having put on their robes, in a void place in the entrance of the gate of Samaria; and all the prophets prophesied before them.
1Ki 22:11  And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron: and he said, Thus saith the LORD, With these shalt thou push the Syrians, until thou have consumed them.
1Ki 22:12  And all the prophets prophesied so, saying, Go up to Ramothgilead, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the king's hand.
(here we see prophets who because of political favor etc say things that aren't true. these prophets have made themselves useless to GOd)
1Ki 22:13  And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.
1Ki 22:14  And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.
1Ki 22:15  So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king. (The prophet Micaiah knew the king wanted prophets that'll tell him what he wanted to hear so he mocked him in saying, GO)1Ki 22:16  And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD?
1Ki 22:17  And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.
1Ki 22:18  And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?
1Ki 22:19  And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
1Ki 22:20  And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall[i](die)[/i] at Ramothgilead? (i'm sure you can see reason at least in the fact that God reserves the right to take a man's life since he gave him that life; in the case of Ahab, after being rejected as king by GOd, instead of dedicated penitence for the rest of his life, he became even more wicked until his cup became full)  And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1Ki 22:21  And there came forth a spirit,(note that the spirit came forth, not that he was there throughout, our God doesn't hold council with such spirits, however use can be found at times for that spirit; if you want to debate this, i will like to remind you that death is not a spirit of GOd, yet he/it is employed to translate man to eternal life/damnation) and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22  And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he (God) said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
1Ki 22:23  Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets,(now it is put in this form- that God put a lying spirit; because he allowed the lying spirit to fulfil his purpose.) and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee. [/b]

Need i say more?

next 'queries'!!!

THE HOLY BIBLE IS THE MOST ACCUSED, BATTERED, CRITICISED, PHYSICALLY DESTROYED BOOK IN HUMAN HISTORY, IT HAS NOT REMAINED ALL THESE TIMES BECAUSE THOSE ACCUSERS DIDN'T GET THEIR FACTS RIGHT, THE BIBLE HAS REMAINED BECAUSE IT IS AN UNTAINTED TRUTH FROM THE FIRST PAGE TO THE LAST PAGE. IT IS THE WORD OF THE GOD, ALL YOU WILL ACHIEVE IS WHAT ALL THOSE ACCUSERS IN THE PAST ACHIEVED. NOTHING!!!! APART FROM PROMOTING IT'S EXCELLENCE

thank you for responding to treatment- to the docs @ National hospital treating UN bomb victims.

Na hear i hear am o

@op i don't see any contradiction.
from the second verse,
1. the man was dying and likely to be dead before the end of that day
2. He had repented and approached the Way, Truth and Life and so qualified to enter paradise
3. Jesus was going to paradise, He knew that
4. there wasn't any decision there, Jesus was stating the plain facts, as a matter of fact, if a disciple or anyone else was there at the conversation and was sure that the thief genuinely repented, and had understanding, He could have spoken the same thing to the thief.- Surely, you will be in paradise with Jesus tonight

there is no contradiction there at all!!!!

i put the answer to that question in blue

they have obstinately and unrepentantly rejected the gospel, they have made themselves willfully blind, because they have a freewill to choose whatever they want (the freewill given by God).

God did not make anyone a thief or a murderer etc, it is a man's choice to do good or evil. he cannot now say he has been turned into that or misled into that by God.
this thing is simple understanding

i have noticed that there is just one more 'query' so i'll just try and touch that so we can end once and for all,

what you see in John 12:40 is quoted from Isaiah 6 which you equally queried so they will get the same answer.
here is courtesy Henry's commentaries. (it defeats your queries so well, sometimes i think they were written for just that )
once again i will quote the scripture in proper context for better understanding.

Isa 6:9  And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
Isa 6:10  Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
Isa 6:11  Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Isa 6:12  And the LORD have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.
Isa 6:13  But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof.


God takes Isaiah at his word, and here sends him on a strange errand - to foretel the ruin of his people and even to ripen them for that ruin - to preach that which, by their abuse of it, would be to them a savour of death unto death. And this was to be a type and figure of the state of the Jewish church in the days of the Messiah, when they should obstinately reject the gospel, and should thereupon be rejected of God.  Isaiah is here given to understand these  things: -
1. That the generality of the people to whom he was sent would turn a deaf ear to his preaching, and wilfully shut their eyes against all the discoveries of the mind and will of God which he had to make to them (Isa_6:9): .” Isaiah must preach to them, and they will hear him indeed, but that is all; they will not heed him; they will no understand him; they will not take any pains, nor use that application of mind which is necessary to the understanding of him; they are prejudiced against that which is the true intent and meaning of what he says, and therefore they will not understand him, or pretend they do not[b](e.g LagosShia). [/color]They see indeed (for the vision is made plain on tables, so that he who runs may read it); but they perceive not their own concern in it; it is to them as a tale that is told. Note, There are many who hear the sound of God's word, but do not feel the power of it.[/b]
2. That, forasmuch as they would not be made better by his ministry, they should be made worse by it; those that were wilfully blind should be judicially blinded (Isa_6:10): [color=#990000]“They will not understand or perceive thee, and therefore thou shalt be instrumental to make their heart fat, senseless, and sensual, and so to make their ears yet more heavy, and to shut their eyes the closer; so that, at length, their recovery and repentance will become utterly impossible; they shall no more see with their eyes the danger they are in, the ruin they are upon the brink of, nor the way of escape from it; they shall no more hear with their ears the warnings and instructions that are given them, nor understand with their heart the things that belong to their peace, so as to be converted from the error of their ways, and thus be healed.”
Note, (1.) The conversion of sinners is the healing of them. (2.) A right understanding is necessary to conversion. (3.) God sometimes, in a way of righteous judgment, gives men up to blindness of mind and strong delusions, because they would not receive the truth in the love of it, 2Th_2:10-12. He that is filthy let him be filthy still.

These hypocritical enquirers (the elders), though Ezekiel will not give them a comfortable answer, yet hope to meet with some other prophets that will; and if they do, as perhaps they may, let them know that God permits those lying prophets to deceive them in part of punishment: “If the prophet that flatters them be deceived, and gives them hopes which there is no ground for, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, have suffered(allowed=contemporary word) the temptation to be laid before him, and suffered(allowed) him to yield to it, and overruled it for the hardening of those in their wicked courses who were resolved to go on in them.”

i wrote this before now. sometimes you make me believe you don't read anybody's post but yours. how can you claim you read my post and still ask me that question?

a man can be a prophet and go against God's instruction if he allows his eyes and flesh to mislead him. it's called backsliding. several people do the same today, and we say "oh but he started well". that's why men must be careful not to allow pride, money etc pull them down.
they might still be able to have the "carriage", infact they may still say some things that may come to pass, but then, even a fan doesn't stop the moment you switch it off, it rotates slower and slower until it comes to a complete stop.

we'll move to the next point tomorrow if you don't mind.

QUESTION/VERSE/QUERY 3.

FOR PROPER CONTEXT AND UNDERSTANDING, I WILL QUOTE FROM VERSE 1 OF THE CHAPTER

Eze 14:1  Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me.
Eze 14:2  And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 14:3  Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?
Eze 14:4  Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;
Eze 14:5  That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.
Eze 14:6  Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.
Eze 14:7  For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:
Eze 14:8  And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 14:9  And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
Eze 14:10  And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;
Eze 14:11  That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.

I WILL ASSUME YOU READ THE ABOVE QUOTED SCRIPTURE; SO HERE GOES (Courtesy Henry's bible commentary)

These hypocritical enquirers (the elders), though Ezekiel will not give them a comfortable answer, yet hope to meet with some other prophets that will; and if they do, as perhaps they may, let them know that God permits those lying prophets to deceive them in part of punishment: “If the prophet that flatters them be deceived, and gives them hopes which there is no ground for, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, have suffered the temptation to be laid before him, and suffered him to yield to it, and overruled it for the hardening of those in their wicked courses who were resolved to go on in them.” We are sure that God is not the author of sin, but we are sure that he is the Lord of all and the Judge of sinners, and that he often makes use of one wicked man to destroy another, and so of one wicked man to deceive another. Both are sins in him who does them, and so they are not from God; both are punishments to him to whom they are done, and so they are from God.
We have a full instance of this in the story of Ahab's prophets, who were deceived by a lying spirit, which God put into their mouths (1Ki_22:23), and another in those whom God gives up to strong delusions, to believe a lie, because they received not the love of the truth, 2Th_2:10, 2Th_2:11 . But read the fearful doom of the lying prophet: I will stretch out my hand upon him and will destroy him. When God has served his(GOd's) own righteous purposes by him(the lying prophet) he shall be reckoned with for his unrighteous purposes. As, when God had made use of the Chaldeans for the wasting of a sinful people, he justly punished them for their rage, so when he had made use of false prophets, and afterwards of false Christs, for the deceiving of a sinful people, he justly punished them for their falsehood. But herein we must acknowledge (as Calvin upon this place reminds us) that God's judgments are a great deep, that we are incompetent judges of them, and that, though we cannot account for the equity of God's proceedings to the satisfying and silencing of every caviller, yet there is a day coming when he will be justified before all the world, and particularly in this instance, when the punishment of the prophet that flattereth the hypocrite in his evil way shall be as the punishment of the hypocrite that seeketh to him and bespeaks smooth things only, Isa_30:10. The ditch shall be the same to the blind leader and the blind followers.[size=8pt][/size]

LagosShia:
i really dont know why it is too hard for you sir to reply the verses one by one[quote author=Knight1 link=topic=833213.msg9848671#msg9848671 date=1325067243]LagosShia, it really takes a lot of will power to respond to you because your reasoning doesn't follow logic.
What did plappville say to warrant such an insult from you? and yet you consider yourself a genuine muslim and speak so terribly of others.

this thing is quite simple, you have listed a number of queries. the first responder took the first point up and 'you let it go by'. (even though i rightly predicted you would return to it)
[b]i took the second point only so that we could tackle it and finish it before moving on to the next, that way there would be no confusion or communication gap.[/b]you claim other people distract you, deviate from the topic of discussion, yet instead of replying to what i answered, you quoted it, and wrote something absolutely different, talking about a post you had 'let go by'. if you still have queries on that you should have asked decently.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU COULDN'T THINK OF A REPLY AND SO YOU RETURNED TO THE FIRST POST.

please clarify your issues on the 'delusion' and please read all responses on that topic before you comment so you don't daw us back, dont let it go by, if you still have issues with understanding it, raise them so we can move on to your third query.

,rather than telling me stories and narrating summaries of how you see it.

i am tackling the ideas presented and the topic.i am not here to argue with you.i dont know you.so you either stick to the topic or you shut up and stop wasting cyber space here and the time of others.[/quote]CAN YOU SEE YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE? I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU ARE REFUSING OBVIOUS DEFEAT ON THAT POINT, HENCE I WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT POINT/VERSE YOU RAISED

you see, this is the problem with selective solutions to issues.
when iraq, libya et al had crises with terrorism and the likes, the US/UN hurried to go and settle the issues because those countries have oil. Somalia was left alone so that the people could kill one another, now the tentacles are spreading and nigeria has almost become a terrorist nation.
i personally will not be surprised if a break-up if facilitated by the US so that their oil source remains intact. Because the truth is the unity of Nigeria is becoming a terrorist threat to the world.

well, everybody knows he didn't win in the first place.
Who goes into an election hoping for a run-off so that his under age northern voters can win him an outright majority?
while i don't like GEJ, Buhari, as at April 2011, was not the people's choice. Simple!

LagosShia, it really takes a lot of will power to respond to you because your reasoning doesn't follow logic.
What did plappville say to warrant such an insult from you? and yet you consider yourself a genuine muslim and speak so terribly of others.

this thing is quite simple, you have listed a number of queries. the first responder took the first point up and 'you let it go by'. (even though i rightly predicted you sould return to it)
i took the second point only so that we could tackle it and finish it before moving on to the next, that way there would be no confusion or communication gap.

you claim other people distract you, deviate from the topic of discussion, yet instead of replying to what i answered, you quoted it, and wrote something absolutely different, talking about a post you had 'let go by'. if you still have queries on that you should have asked decently.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU COULDN'T THINK OF A REPLY AND SO YOU RETURNED TO THE FIRST POST.

please clarify your issues on the 'delusion' and please read all responses on that topic before you comment so you don't daw us back, dont let it go by, if you still have issues with understanding it, raise them so we can move on to your third query.

@goggs.
permit me to request that you suspend your queries for now. the reason is LagosShia will use it as a means of escape from the main issues of the thread. after all questions are done with, you can then give him yours. or instead open a thread.
i have interacted with him for a while now albeit short, but i know his tactics. thanks .

LagosShia:
@Knight1

i am not okay with the explanation.as in what is "repentance" for sinners and all the talk about forgiveness about?

so what i understand from your explanation is that God might be so annoyed to revenge and send me astray with His own hands preventing me from believing.in the Quran for exmaple,if we show willingness to turn back to God and seek taubah (repentance) God will unconditionally forgive us and show us mercy.but in the bible,he is very angry.at least he should wait till judgement day.why is He judging people on earth and punishing them by leading them deliberately astray?

okay,if you talk about people,you may want to find excuses.but what happens to his prophets.he even mislead His prophets.isn't that cruel?


Ezekiel 14:9
9And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

LETS FINISH THIS BEFORE WE MOVE TO EZEKIEL14:9

GOD IS NOT REVENGING. LEMME PUT IT MORE SIMPLY THAN BEFORE

1. HE HAS OFFERED A MAN THE RIGHT WAY OF LOVE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
2. THE MAN HAS REFUSED THE WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
3. HE NOT ONLY REFUSED RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE IMBIBED EVIL AND FALSEHOOD RELENTLESSLY
4. THEREFORE GOD ALLOWS HIM TO THINK HE IS 'ENJOYING LIFE'- THIS IS THE DELUSION
5. GOD WILL NOT FORGIVE A MAN THAT DOES NOT REPENT
6. THEREFORE AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN IN THAT CORRUPTION, THEY WILL BE SET FOR DAMNATION


Can we go on to Ezekiel now?

since point/question 1 has been tackled, i'll move to number 2. _{(even though i know you will still return to it when you no longer have any point and just want to raise dust)}

i have asked you to always read the chapter at least of the bible verse you want to 'query'.

since you have been known to change words in scripture to suit your position and so i can't trust you, please allow me to post from the KJV the scripture accurately

2Th 2:5  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6  And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Ordinarily, just quoting the passage in context will be sufficient for the objective mind, but i will humour you a little.


GOD HAS PRESENTED UNTO ALL MANKIND THE WAY OF TRUTH AND LOVE, HOWEVER MANY HAVE REFUSED THAT WAY,NOT ONLY DO THEY REFUSE IT, THEY GO TOTALLY THE OTHER WAY OF SIN, WICKEDNESS, FRAUD AND WORST OF ALL, THEY FLAUNT IT!
THIS SCRIPTURE ASSURES US THAT GOD WILL DESTROY THIS SATANIC POWER
Their sin is this: They believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness: they did not love the truth, and therefore they did not believe it; and, because they did not believe the truth, therefore they had pleasure in unrighteousness, or in wicked actions, and were pleased with false notions. Note, An erroneous mind and vicious life often go together and help forward one another. (2.) Their ruin is thus expressed: God shall send them strong delusions, to believe a lie. Thus he will punish men for their unbelief, and for their dislike of the truth and love to sin and wickedness; not that God is the author of sin, but in righteousness he sometimes withdraws his grace from such sinners as are here mentioned; he gives them over to Satan, or leaves them to be deluded by his instruments; he gives them up to their own hearts' lusts, and leaves them to themselves, and then sin will follow of course, yea, the worst of wickedness, that shall end at last in eternal damnation. God is just when he inflicts spiritual judgments here, and eternal punishments hereafter, upon those who have no love to the truths of the gospel, who will not believe them, nor live suitably to them, but indulge false doctrines in their minds, and wicked practices in their lives and conversations.


I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS SO I CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT "QUERY". wouldn't like to be repeatedly drawn back on what i have clearly explained.

i had hoped that i would engage in logical reasoning and objectivity with you.
clearly,your mind is totally blocked.
smarter minds like sweetnecta have dropped it at the discovery of your thievery. trying to incite with falsehood. i will not return to this thread again. i have humoured you long enough.
i will however continue to answer your other questions on other threads. this one has become a noisy ranting of a dishonest antagonist

LagosShia:
please let us call a spade a spade and stop drifting into the direction you want to take the thread.

let me ask you for a small favor.assume i am your 7 years old son or your old mother in the village who is semi-literate.and either of these two ask you to explain the below verse and what it says.how do you explain to them based on your own version/translation of the bible using the word "cores" and not the "p" word as you referred?:

Ezekiel 23:20
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose cores were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

once again, due to availabilty of plenty time, i will answer.
YOUR QUESTION HAS PROVEN YOU WRONG. THAT IT NEEDS EXPLANATION MEANS IT IS NOT WRITTEN THERE IN PLAIN OFFENSIVE/SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE TERMS.
i will explain what it is to them, the same way parents teach their children sex education; a core is a private part; an 'emission' is semen/spermatozoa.
it's the same thing if your child asks you what a virgin is or what sex is. i'm sure you are the type that'll probably beat up the child for asking such a question and unconsciously send him looking for the meaning in all the wrong places.

I AM NOT TAKING THE THREAD IN ANY DIRECTION.
THE TOPIC SAYS "P word in the Word?"
and i showed that it isn't there.
it is referred to as same as you refer to a woman's virginity.


YOU TOLD A LIE!!!! SIMPLE!!!!! AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE REFUSED TO ADMIT IT/ CHANGE THE NAME OF THE TOPIC SHOWS THE EXTENT OF YOUR MORAL CHARACTER, REligious LagosShia!

i really shouldn't be replying but i got the time so, why not

Who is complaining? has anyone except you and sweetnecta complain? don't you know your position of arguement
well, so far, in case you didn't notice , YOU are the one complaining
clearly we know those who need their heads checkedi haven't read all the versions but you haven't read anyone that uses the P word either

inserting it deviously is wrong. accept it!

LagosShia:
you can call it as you like.you understand what is there,and that is all the thread is about.search the many versions online.simply because other versions conceal _{you need to check the meaning of that word} the "peni$" word does not mean that the male private part is not the intended description.you like threading on off-topic discussions.stick to the topic!

i addressed the "topic" in my first post, you can scroll up and check it;
after i addressed it, i showed that you deliberately inserted a word that isn't there to incite. that is wrong and you should admit that, not saying 'it's apple that was mentioned' or 'you can call it as you like'.

A man's privates are not sinful, God created it and has intended purposes for it, and if he refers to it, i don't see how that corrupts anyone. _{except of course people that think like you. God knows the kind of graphic stuff you have fed to your mind to cause a red alert anytime you see/hear it being refered to}

LagosShia:
dont worry.its the word "apple" that is written there.hope you are happy!

so because someone uses "cores" instead of "peni$" in translating you dont know what is written there?

simply quoting the entire verse was enough.i didnt even have to present more than the one verse.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS BEING REFERRED TO _{and i addressed that in my first post}, THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION, THE FACT IS THAT IT WAS DESCRIBED IN A WAY THAT IS "SOCIALLY CORRECT/ DOESN'T OFFEND"
IF YOU AN "UPRIGHT" MOSLEM THEN QUOTES A VERSE, I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU'D DO SO OBJECTIVELY INSTEAD OF CHANGING A WORD THERE AND PRETENDING THAT ALL'S CORRECT. THAT IS DISHONESTY

THAT WON'T BE CORRECT. YOU THINK THERE AREN'T PART OF THEM THAT HAVE SUFFERED CASUALTIES IN THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS,
BOKO HARAM HAS BACKERS, ANY POOR MUSLIM BOY WILL DO FOR THE ACTUAL BOMBING.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS TO DESTROY THE BACKERS

Which denial, LagosShia?
you carefully ignored your fraud, while telling me i am in denial.
SHOW THE THE TRANSLATION THAT USE THAT WORD NA

And for someone accusing someone of half quoting, you probably shoud ALWAYS read at least the whole chapter of any portion you wish to quote.

@sweetnecta,
please don't speculate as to what other people will do when faced in your position. that you would do wrong in a situation doesn't mean others would.
Now to your question,
If knight1 controlled all the women in nollywood, i would, if i am interested in her, approach One (1) (UNo) (un) that i like and ask her hand, not force her or compel her, if she is willing i will marry her properly, as for the remaining, anybody that is interested in wedding them can come and do so.
ONE MAN, ONE WIFE; EQUAL IN LOVE AND FELLOWSHIP.


NOW WE ALL KNOW WHAT SWEETNECTA HAS IN HIS MIND

try and contact all those radio and tv stations. look up their contact online.

_{though i think you might be too late. most would have done theirs and forgotten about it sef.}

Sweetnecta:
^^^^^ Modinga does not realize that the human natural instinct remains intact for free and captives the same, all the time. Imagine the master of the house having relationship with his house maid. Why? Because the master's manhood acts independently of his status if we go by the fact that he is the husband of the mommy in charge of the female house maid.

The house maid is a woman still. She needs what every normal woman needs; love and affection from a man. So if the master of the house has morals, she pounces on the next available male; the younger brother or the children of the master who are old enough to work out. If she is pretty, some of the males will find a way to get to her, one way or the other.

If she is desperate, then abuses the immature, inexperience is her care at the slightest of window to do so, without raising any obvious sign of her actions and desire.

I find it heard that Modinga will ignore the human nature and thinks that a 30 year old beautiful woman who suddenly becomes a spoil of war in the household of a young military general about her age, will leave her alone for too long. After a year, if that long in his care, she herself will see the man as the ideal man for her by his position of power and privilege, forgetting he had personally masterminded the death of her future husband, father and any other males in her clan. Her womanhood will be instinctively pushing her to him. This is human nature. If the best woman in your society is suddenly willed to you, before long you will be inviting her to your bed or coming to her bed, with a single knock at the door to simply announce that you are just about to open the door. Hypocritical Modinga, I say.
Apart from all the signs and the age indicated for a man and woman to marry, even though these benchmarks apply to both genders, what Islam stresses more is the mental capability of the spouse to handle the role of husband or wife; there is a marital contract which both must participate, contribute by giving their individual wish and desire. a little child can't participate in this very important technical document, wherein without it, the marriage is not effective, along with the presence of guardian, witnesses and the man who officiates.

I will hit my wife with a handkerchief. I guess that hurts, instead of a show of sign of unhappiness. Job [as] did hit his wife with 100 blades of grass by touching her with this single bundle, in fulfillment of his pledge as a prophet. Some prophets in the Bible did not fulfill their pledges making them false prophets if you apply the Biblical yardstick to them of true prophet or false prophets.

Your case, Modinga, reminds me of the false prophets Elisha killed in the Bible.

No where in the Islamic verses you quoted did you see male Cores mentioned.

are you trying to defend assault? and the fact that you will sleep with any unmarried/unbetrothed/unrelated woman in your household provided she approaches you sends shivers down my spine. What kind of people are you? . and that you are INCAPABLE of restraint doesn't mean mobinga/other decent men.

Now to the mention of male 'CORES'
Who created your parts? you? or is reference to a man's organ sinful again? maybe men should not be doctors again. mscheeeeeeeeew

@lagosshia
BIG SHAME ON YOU. THERE IS NOT ONE TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE THAT MENTIONS THE MALE ORGAN IN THE WORD THAT YOU USED. THAT GOES TO SHOW HOW DESPERATELY FRAUDULENT YOU ARE. _{but we all know that don't we}
i challenge you to paste the translation that uses the P word to describe it.
some use 'Cores' and other words that convey the meaning.
it simply shows that you are a LIAR!

so the patriotic thing is to lower our standards, and claim that those who didn't do well did right?
UK just blacklisted Medical grads from some skls in Nigeria, how do you think that came to be?
i dare say you are the unpatriotic destroyer for seeing the glaring truth and going along with the lies!

used to call a guy POSI (COFFIN) cos of the size and shape of his head.
also used to call a girl MUCI (presumed plural for mucus) cos she always had cold
God forgive us!