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Globad:
Of course, many don't or didn't believe him

But he was a humble and simple man who didn't acquire wealth. The so-called man of God of today won't be facing so much criticism if they were emulating Jesus

“Humble and simple” yet traveled with an entourage.

Didn’t acquire wealth, but he was never impoverished or lacking; and didn’t have a job except for preaching. Sounds familiar?

Besides, why would he need wealth in the context of the story when he is capable of magic?

What’s the difference between the acquisition of a luxury vehicle and Jesus’ acquisition of the infamous donkey?

Not only would they not believe him, they would rightly laugh at him except for those people in his entourage and the cult at large. Examples abound of charlatans like that.

Globad:
The charlatans have turned churches to businesses

Their gullible members also don't help matters...they're there right now jumping up and down

Do you realize that the Jesus guy himself would be considered a charlatan if he were alive today?

Doesn’t he fit the profile?

Skoonheid:
“In that day,” declares the Lord,

“I will destroy your horses from among you
and demolish your chariots.
I will destroy the cities of your land
and tear down all your strongholds.
I will destroy your witchcraft
and you will no longer cast spells.
I will destroy your idols
and your sacred stones from among you;
you will no longer bow down
to the work of your hands.
I will uproot from among you your Asherah poles
when I demolish your cities.
I will take vengeance in anger and wrath
on the nations that have not obeyed me.”

What’s the difference between your god and a terrorist?

BitterPost:
this catholic statues will never talk or walk.

Blinking and bleeding seems to be the only skill they have.

Just like their god. He talks a lot of shit, but you will NEVER hear it come out of his mouth.

GenFunction:
He said cigga nt weed.

My bad. Lol. Applies to smoking cigga too

Just say the truth. You smoke because you like to smoke. No one asks coffee drinkers and alcohol drinkers why they drink, so don’t ask weed smokers why they smoke.

Botragelad:
Okay! 😂

Indeed.

Botragelad:
Wow. You managed to scrape together enough brain cells to latch onto the 'someone's opinion' part. Well done, I mean, it's not like you had to actually comprehend anything complex.

And, yes, he/she's still someone. By the way, I'm still waiting for you to conjure up an answer to my question.

I would wait for you to admit the points in the article but I figured that would be impossible since you are either a kike or some Jew sycophant right wing type and truth is impossible for your kind.

MrPresident1:
Are you black? Black in Latin means dead. The ancestors of people who today are Africans or worse called Blacks built some of the most advanced civilizations that the earth has ever known, but they all went down because their time ended. All civilizations are built on God and his empowerment, no one comes on top without his enablement.

You have no spiritual, ideological or philosophical background to understand these things, because you think people just arise to the top by any intrinsic capacity of theirs, or people go low or get devolved even by their own doing too, if you had understanding you would know that it is God who does all these things.

And no civilization stays in top forever, you do your part, and then you go under for others to have their turn, then when everyone has completed their turn, Adam and Eve, the original and aboriginal civilization, must take over forever.

Sure, your imaginary friend does all things.

Botragelad:
Now, ponder this. Can the so-called Muslim Civilization, which is largely predicated on religious tenets, genuinely be likened to Western Civilization? The answer, lies therein.

Next time, do refrain from disparaging Western Civilization as a joke. And, if I'm being entirely candid, the link you provided didn't exactly proffer any cogent or reasonable arguments, did it? Merely someone's opinion, devoid of any tangible basis in reality.
Hard pass!

Lol. “Merely someone’s opinion…” Continue to believe nonsense. I’m sure that is not the only myth you consider as accurate history.

Naoíse Mac Sweeney is professor of classical archaeology at the University of Vienna, having previously held posts at both Leicester and Cambridge Universities, and been a researcher at Harvard’s Center for Hellenic Studies. She has won numerous academic awards for her work on classical antiquity and origin myths, her previous book on Troy was shortlisted for a major prize, and she has appeared on BBC television and radio.

https://lithub.com/why-the-idea-of-western-civilization-is-more-myth-than-history/

Botragelad:
You aren't even addressing the issue. Read my previous response if you are confused please!

Didn't address the Arabic numeral part, and how it's Muslim Civilization or how it has bettered your life, technology wise, didn't address the western Civilization you called a joke and how it has impacted your life.

Going off tangent isn't going to help! 🤷‍♂️.

Read the article and you’ll see “Muslim civilization”’s contribution to human advancement.

Botragelad:
You literally quoted me to say Western Civilization is a joke, then went off on a tangent about Islamic Civilization?

Define this “western civilization” if you can, then explain how it is western? What I was criticizing is the idea that all those inventions are solely because of western civilization when other people apart from Western European contributed
Better yet, see what you can learn in this article.

https://lithub.com/why-the-idea-of-western-civilization-is-more-myth-than-history/

For most of us, it seems normal—even natural—to think of Western history in these terms. Unthinkingly, we assume that the modern West is the custodian of a privileged inheritance, passed down through a kind of cultural genealogy that we usually refer to as “Western Civilization.”

It is a version of history that is all around us, set out in popular textbooks, encoded implicitly into children’s stories and Hollywood movies, and proclaimed loudly and sometimes even angrily by commentators on both sides of the political spectrum. But it is a version of history that is simply wrong.

But perhaps the greatest centre of medieval classical learning when it came to the sciences was in Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate, where classical scholarship was fused with new philosophical and scientific developments drawn from across Asia, Africa, and Europe.

KnownUnknown:
The biggest joke in this word in so called “western civilization”. That silly phrase is meant to create the illusion that all recent human progress has been due to Western Europe. “Western civilization” that has its so called roots in Greece. Lol

Anyway, next time you count maybe you should thank the Muslims?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

Botragelad:
I asked your other buddy a simple question. Why do you use the internet, smartphone and other inventions if you think Western Civilization is a joke?

That's simple sense. Dissapoint me by saying something reasonable.

Ask your buddy the simple question again. “Western civilization” is not the sole reason for the existence of those inventions. The accumulation of knowledge over millennia that resulted in internet, smartphone, and other inventions is not solely because of “western civilization”. My point was not to defend your buddy but to point out Muslims’ contribution to scientific development.
Now surprise me by saying something reasonable.

Also, using things invented by westerners doesn’t mean you have to accept the absurdities they also believe. After their contact with the so called westerners, the Japanese managed to adopt what was useful while rejecting the absurd, to wit Christianity. Most of Africa’s problem is due to the fact that they accepted the absurd while ignoring or neglecting to develop the useful. Your buddy is perfect example of that mentality.

Botragelad:
Now tell me how Islam or it's Civilization has bettered your life realistically, saving humanity, technology wise, etc?

The biggest joke in this word in so called “western civilization”. That silly phrase is meant to create the illusion that all recent human progress has been due to Western Europe. “Western civilization” that has its so called roots in Greece. Lol

Anyway, next time you count maybe you should thank the Muslims?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

Don’t criticize the Muslims as if they are any worse than the Jews and Christians. They are all branches of the same repulsive ideology.

What sort of insanity is this?

Obiedun:
You said hunger caused the looting in Nigeria, what causes this one?

The white propensity to steal? They are kleptomaniacs perpetually pointing the finger at other people.

Originalsly:
Dramatic increase in slumping doesn't mean people weren't slumping before.

“Dramatic” increase without stats to back it up.

Originalsly:
Slumping has increased dramatically since the introduction of the COVID-19 shots.

Bullshit. People have been slumping and dying in Nigeria before COVID shots.

Slumped and died. Nigeria is really stuck in a rot. I’ve heard that “slumped and died” phrase all my life and yet no progress, no autopsy, no preventive care, no hope. Onyeka Owenu slumped and died. Th is young made slumped and died. Rich and poor slumping and dying. Anyway, her suffering has ended.

ajimir:
The Western world has more rituals in their possession than us. But it's used for development.

The reason we are where we find ourselves today

Their rituals have nothing to do with their development except when it was used to steal.

budaatum:
You might learn the wisdom of using your own senses like Eve did instead of the ignorance of Adam which kept him in naked ignorant slavery,

Here’s another one. By “use your own senses”, you indicate that Eve is engaging in some critical thinking when it’s obvious she isn’t.

She goes wherever the wind blows. The first guy says something and she believes. The second guy says something else and she believes.

budaatum:
KnownUnknown, I really thought you and I had gone past the point where unknown you would know buda, but it seems we still have a very long way to go.

Does a "typical Christian" tell anyone to read the Bible and the Quran?

Do you seriously think your mind reading skills are so good that you quite understood the implication or intent of my initial post?

You should put in more effort in to trying to know the unknown instead of assuming you already know things about buda that you obviously do not know.

It’s clear in the previous the behavior of yours that is akin to a typical Christian; not the straw man you are arguing against.

budaatum:
Well, I obviously didn't keep my advice to myself, so there.

The Bible and Quran because they are the two most ubiquitous books in Nigeria and are good for understanding the written text. Also the contradictions in the two would create a dissonance that makes believing either most impossible, and will create a passion for understanding and circle squaring.

Foreign fairy tales because they are far more advanced than Nollywood, and feed the mind with quite a lot to nibble on.

I would have prescribed other books like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason, or Heidegger's Time and Being, but they might be far too advanced for a person struggling with the two I did recommend, especially if they are the believing sort instead of the understanding sort.

I do not consider fairy tales to be nonsense. Chinua's tortoise story being a case in point.

Kant or Heidegger had opinions but don’t just assume that he can’t understand them. Also, Kant and Heidegger are not in the same class of literature as the Bible and Quran. The Avesta, Odu Ifa, Baghavad Gita are the other works you should have recommended along with the abrahamic stuff. You could have also recommended the Book of Mormon and Dianetics. Chinaua Achebe’s works are not akin to religious lore.

Also, why are you comparing those fairy tales to Nollywood when you can compare them to indigenous fairy tales?!

Besides, the Bible is actually worse than Nollywood. Lmao

budaatum:
That's your reasoning. And as I said, assume you insulting me is you slapping me.

Twisting yourself into a pretzel to justify the unjustifiable. Like a typical Christian; when the implication of a sentence is obviously unacceptable, they start changing the meaning of the word.

budaatum:
My suggestion is, read the books (Bible and Quran to start with), yourself instead of going to church to stare at a white face.

You should have just kept your advice to yourself. Why the Bible and Quran? The guy said he’s tired of foreign fairy tales and nonsense but you just double down with the nonsense.

budaatum:
My suggestion is, read the books (Bible and Quran to start with), yourself instead of going to church to stare at a white face.

You should have just kept your advice to yourself. Why the Bible and Quran? The rubbish in those books are not going to help him!

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OLAADEGBU:
Breaking!

If you are right, that means Nigerians have been mocking this god for the past 50 years. Lmao
Up NEPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Christians are insane, ignorant, and beyond pathetic.

One, the ceremony honored Dionysus and has nothing to do with your magical jew charlatan and his cult.

Two, Dionysus predates your magic Jew so if there is a similarity, it’s because Christians copied it.

Three, is Da Vinci’s painting of random Italians in the 15th or 16th century truly a representation of some 1st century Judean vagabonds?

Four, what is wokism and what does it have to do with the French?

Righteousness2:
Obamas endorse or bill clintons endorse,
Donald Trump is the Last Chance for any form of hope for America aka Mystery Babylon as a Nation.

America as a Nation is gone past the Era of i am a democrat! or i am a Republican.
America is at the last strand of Survival as a Nation.
Any mistake in this Election, it is Total Collaspe of Mystery Babylon.


Not that Donald Trump is a saint and all that.
But Trump understands the core Foundation and Strength of America as a nation and he Tilts towards it.

Trump is Boldly Pro-life.
He is Boldly against the Satanic wokeseim and critical race theory of she , he, non - binary and all that satanism being pushed on little kids in US schools right now.
Trump is a Nationalist
Most important, Trump is Boldly Pro-Israel. Not pro Israel on Camera and anti -Israel behind curtain.

The other guys are pro abortion, Pro- wokesim even right in the white house! They are boldly Satanic, bodly Provoking GOD pointing their fist on GOD and telling HIM do your Worst.

A high percentage of them are anti-Israel.

If America goes the Satanic way, it is The FULL FALL AND COLLASPE OF AN EMPIRE.

Mystery Babylon. That’d be a cool name for a band.
5x Grammy Award Winners, Mystery Babylon!!!!!

Bliztzer:

You still want to justify your unmitigated delusion.

Do you love with your brain?

You are too ignorant for me to bother with.