₦airaland Forum

yongg:
➜Start by producing a law to enforce freezing a baby in place after birth if that makes sense to you...

What does a baby or the freezing of one in place have to do with a discussion on illegal migration?

yongg:
➜Go study settlements over the ages and answer those questions for settlers that moved or expanded into other territories, and I am especially referring to the non-aggressive ones., the more trade-based or skill/exchange-based ones.

I asked you a question. You claim you have a right bestowed on you by nature to move anywhere you like. I want to know how nature goes about that so that your right is never violated, or if it is, that you are defended?

Telling me about settlements is trying to shove gobbledegook at me.

yongg:
➜Natural law, law of nature.

Nature? Where is this nature, and how does it go about defending this supposed right that you claim you have by it? Say you are trying to move to China or Saudi Arabia. How does Nature ensure that your right of movement is not violated when you do?

yongg:
➜I disagree, a free born human has the fundamental human right of movement.

What is the foundation of this right that you claim?

DiamondsAreFore:
https://punchng.com/discos-earn-n600bn-in-three-months-despite-blackouts/

Money laundering or cooking books?

ViceGovernor:
Their freedom fighters who were marked for deth ran to other African countries especially Nigeria and they were given shelter and paid stipends from monies deducted from our civil servants.
Those same freedom fighters went back to South Africa and continued their fight which turned out successful.
If those African countries had rejected them they would have died like dogs and so would their hope of getting rid of oppression then.

Why were they marked for death?

Misterone:
When you fire them and gire new ones, what then changes? Just new faces!
The president can do nothing more than what he's doing unless a new law is passed that all individuals can arm themselves however they like. Then, we'll only see dead bodies not lives ones being kidnapped, arrested or rescued.

First of all, Adeboye said nothing as all he did was put forward a meaningless conditional statement, which is quite different from what he did back in 2010 when he gave Jonathan a direct ultimatum.

Second, no new laws are needed, as criminal laws are clear as far as what should happen to all criminals in Nigeria. However, Adeboye seems quite aware that terrorism is a result of the Islamization of Nigeria, which explains why the government has been seemingly dragging its feet when it comes to eliminating the issues. I believe Adeboye not only knows that the agenda of the current administration is to Islamize the nation, but is complicit...he is part of the agreement. That explains why, if you read the OP carefully, you will find that his play with words requires no action at all on the part of the government.

➜There are claims it was taken in 2008.

The man was a well-known political power even at the time. So, attempts to whitewash his image to make him seem as though he was not politically involved at the time are deceitful at best. Adeboye has been a powerful member of the political cabal in Nigeria for a long time now.

➜So you're saying that a protest didn't happen but a petition?

Petitioning against the government's actions/inaction is a protest. Even more so, giving the government a 90-day ultimatum is definitely a protest.

Is the writing and submission of a petition against the government a form of Protest?

Yes. Writing or signing a petition against the government is universally recognized as a peaceful form of political protest.

➜Did a protest happen?

Signing a petition against the government is in itself a protest against the government.

Many of the stories of what happened around that period seem to have been removed from the internet, as I am yet to find other reports from around the same time surrounding the events around and after the particular one I posted. Kind of seems some effort has been made to remove quite a lot of the reports by Nigerian Newspapers around that time that include reference to Adeboye and his church. I am not surprised though!

Even Nairaland seems to have wiped its archives clean on so many of the mentions.

jaxxy:
➜Whats the % population of these foreigners?
➜ U are attacking foreigners running legal businesses like carwash, provision and utility stores
➜ and u are killing black innoxent people legal or not legal. U are not going after foreigners commiting crimes u are going after innocent black people u xenophobics.

He just explained that the people are against illegal immigrants. He is against illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants.

2. Illegal immigrants do not have legal businesses.

3. The killing of immigrants is a crime committed by a minority who ought to be arrested and punished to the full extent of the law. But this is not to erase the fact that South Africans are against the illegal immigrants being allowed to stay.

babzo:
➜Why can't you show at least one news article or picture of it? I dare you to. Of course you can't. Thats the great problem with many Nigerians lazy analysts, inability to separate emotions from intellect.
This is Pastor Adeboye praying for President Jonathan. Show me one picture or news article of him attacking or protesting against him.
Nigeria is probably the number 1 country on Earth where most citizens dont have any knowledge of their own history.

Ah! That picture was taken after months of bullying, and Jonathan finally caved to the power that is Adeboye and his cabal. Have we all forgotten this other image?

Bluntemperor:
➜Pastor Adeboye never protested in any of your nonsense Politics,so it is Not a matter of being young,for we know the events that shapes Nigeria till date and stop being delusional.😬
Some of you want the man to Speak Politics but you are disappointed he didn't,so you now call and robb it on his Followers,
With all the Resources in your States and Federal Govt-you should be ashamed that there is No 24/7 Light 🕯️🚨 in Nigeria,yet Redemption Camp have that 24/7.

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Alliswell248:
Noisemaker and children of eight. Baba Adeboye never protested during Jonathan tenure. I challenge you to show us the video and mention the date. Use your head

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cyberbro:
Where did he protest again GEJ? Most of you are just swallowing misinformation. May God forgive you all. The only time he went on a walk was during #Endsars which was under Buhari when people were allegedly killed at Lekki Toll Gate.

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Eseigbe25:
I repeat do your research! Anyway since it seems you averse to that let me help you...that protest organised by CAN was during Buharis government NOT Jonathan.
Oya give that lie a rest abeg! Are u sure u are in dis kontry

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Flame77:
..Can you provide evidence that Pastor Adeboye went on a street protest with his church members during GEJ tenure?

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NinjaMetahuman:
oya bring proof. Show us links na. That shouldn't be hard. Like what's wrong with all these brainwashed kids littering social media these days.

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babzo:
Pastor Adeboye never hit the streets during GEJ. Thats a lie. He led only one protest in 2020 during the Buharis time.

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babzo:
Dont mind these people with selective amnesia. Zero knowledge of even recent history

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babzo:
Pastor Led only one protest ever in 2020 under Buhari and APC

He did protest. He gathered petitions against the government's handling of the security situation in Nigeria back during Jonathan's time. He also planned to stage a 1-million man match as well.

Galapagous:
➜Not that I know of. Hunger in this case is someone who enter into government to satisfy his greed.

Anyone honest with themselves knows this for a fact. Have you seen his resume from before he became president? He was a nobody even within PDP circles at the time.

seppuku:
➜The ANC government is afraid to react too harshly. Election season is round the corner and mischief makers are aware of this plus when the government was heavy handed on them during the Marikana killings, there was serious backlash.

ANC afraid? You clearly don't know the history of the ANC party for you to imagine them as some powerless victims in all of this.

Galapagous:
➜Yes, that I had to agree. Before his death, maybe if he had stay longer, he might start showing favour to his godfather's, but as far as I know, he was clean.

Yar adua was a hungry politician before his death.

Ade2024:
➜My dear Yar'adua is not an hungry politician

Yes he was.

Tenses:
➜Story Did he give GEJ that ultimatum before he hit the street with his congregation.

Adeboye didn't give an ultimatum. He instead used words to deceive you into thinking he did.

If ....I would... is not an ultimatum.

Ayomisure001:
The RCCG leader's comments come amid nationwide protests and growing public concern over insecurity across Nigeria, including the abduction of pupils, students and teachers in Oyo State.
The General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Enoch Adeboye, has called on the Federal Government to take a firm stand against terrorism, including giving an ultimatum to the country’s service chiefs.
Adeboye made the call in a video posted on his official X handle on Tuesday, describing his comment as a suggestion to the Federal Government amid the rising spate of insecurity in Nigeria.
“You can only advise the Commander-in-Chief. You can’t command him. Because if you command the Commander-in-Chief, then you become the commander of the Commander-in-Chief. That doesn’t make sense. But I’ve tried. And God is my witness,” he said.
“So then, I don’t want to take much of your time. What should we do now? I’m talking to you as my children. If I were asked to make suggestions, I would say quietly to our government, move fast, and tell our security chiefs, ‘Get rid of these terrorists within 90 days or resign.” ‘

This scammer again? Notice he does not say it directly to FG but rather gives it as a condition to fool his followers into thinking he is finally being proactive on the issue.

Sonofgod1990:
➜ Sex children and nothing more. I'm even planning to go for a contract marriage. You give me 4 children you go your way, I carry my children. I see women as a burden to mens life

Marriage is already a contract in and of itself. If you mean a temporary marriage rather than a life-long marriage, then what you are doing is putting a time limit on your union. There are many templates for such attempts out there already, and you will also need a divorce at the end of it.

mirrael68:
➜God said, it's not good for the man to be alone.
➜ Also for this reason, a man must leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh.
➜ It's a divine order for those who want to take it up.

Are you certain that is what he said, or rather the lie your pastors sold to you, given that approximately half of his own prophets never married?

What is instead found in the Book of Israelites Scriptures is that after forming a man from the dust of the ground...

5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground,
6 but streams[b] came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground.
7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. - Genesis 2 vs 5 - 7

He then said the following, regarding the particular man that He had just created in the previous passage.

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” - Genesis 2 vs 15 - 18

Clearly, the above was not about every man, but about the particular man who existed at the beginning, the only man who had ever been alone -- like literally no other human existed--- on this planet at the time he was made**.

2. So, in your mind, the many prophets remained celibate until death disregarded this divine order? More like a divine delusion for the vast majority of you who end up made miserable or dead by way of your divine delusions.

** Language comprehension is a vital skill to have when reading through any text.

EmperorIsaac:
➜All you need is come, and He shall restore you unto Himself. Jesus is Lord!

Again, I despise religion and every one of its prescriptions.

EmperorIsaac:
Of course, religion without righteousness profits no one.
However, what you desperately need now is to act on the verse below:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
-John 3:16 (KJV).

The prescription of ideology removed from reality is at the foundation of all religions, and its notion of righteousness.

EmperorIsaac:
➜Jesus is Lord, accept Him today!

Like I said, I despise religion.

EmperorIsaac:
➜Since I really love you, I would counsel you to run away from such writings.
➜ Embrace the Bible, for therein lies the key to the Kingdom. Albeit, no man can come to Him except the Spirit of God shows mercy. I pray you see the light eventually.

Run away from such writings? You are telling me to embrace ignorance of what is in front of me at the same time claiming it is of love that this advice towards ignorance is coming from?

2. Embrace the bible? You think a book can save you the way it has not saved the thousands who have lost their lives at the hands of terrorists in Nigeria to date? And people wonder why I despise religion.

EmperorIsaac:
➜And we are still suffering from that ideology till this day. In fact, the whole earth is in turmoil courtesy that illusion cum ideology; from 9/11, to Shekau, to ISIS, to mention but a few.

All the more reason why every human being on this earth should become adequately acquainted with the particulars of this ideology. The average Nigerians refuse to arm themselves against the Islamization of Nigeria agenda of the terrorists, for instance, because of stark ignorance and blindness to the fact that it is being allowed by their very government.

EmperorIsaac:
➜India and China combined have their own conception of divinity; yet, that is no evidence that a belief system is legitimized by numbers.

I said nothing of legitimacy but rather of an ideology behind a movement that makes up 1/4th of the population of this planet -- an ideology that is right now ravaging the very nation which you call home.

brain54:
➜Where did I say you lack heart and soul...?
➜ I said your argument was soulless... meaning it lacked dept, was too plain and shallow. And clearly showed you didn't know much about the matter!

Was this not your earlier post?

brain54:
➜Sounds like what bots or AI would say... No soul or dept... just arguing for argument sake. Go and educate yourself about what is happening in South Africa!

Well... everything I have said on the issue is factual. So, what is left? Non-facts?
The very same way I want all the illegal immigrants(mostly the terrorists from all across Africa and maybe even the Middle East) out of Nigeria is the same way South Africans have, for the longest, agitated for the removal of illegal immigrants from their borders.

ElSudani:
➜Beating up people and forcibly evicting them from their homes and businesses is criminal not protest.

Well, I think I made it clear that crime is not protest. However, protest is also not a crime.

brain54:
➜Who said you should tackle anything on emotional level...? Have you done what I said you should? Don't quote me again if you haven't!

You accused me of lacking heart or soul. What else do you think that implies?

EmperorIsaac:
➜Deep down I believe you know they're plagiarized forms of Scriptures...don't dwell on fables.

Around 2 billion individuals are said to have their identities fashioned around the content of those books. It would be highly ignorant of you to deny yourself needed knowledge of what 1 out of 4 people on planet earth today believe, not just about themselves but about you.

brain54:
➜Sounds like what bots or AI would say... No soul or dept... just arguing for argument sake. Go and educate yourself about what is happening in South Africa!

What does heart or soul have to do with this or anything? Why must this or anything around this be tackled on emotional levels?