₦airaland Forum

extremelygolden:
■ Please stop quoting me. I don't have any business with you, I beg you in the name of God.
Just get off my mention, please.

Still trying to drag God's mention in the mud that is you, I see! Anyway, log off of Nairaland and you get your wish granted. It is that simple!

extremelygolden:
■ Na you sabi, Iya gbeboru. Shebi na Poverty Brands be your best brands. Continue!

You even aptly describe you there.... WOW!

Azazyel:
Hypocrites! So cos it's Herbert wigwe abi. If it was a poor man that died, would they suspend the pastor for this? Nonsense! Some of the other pastors are eyeing his position. Planned work. His woman finally delivered him into the hands of his enemies.

Church na business and VIPS have to be placated.

extremelygolden:
■ My brother in the Lord, your points are very valid. The day I attended "Arise", a programme organized by Pastor Siji at City of David specially for women, that was the day I vowed NEVER to attend any of her events or programmes again!
I just don't know how many drums and colours of paints she used to bath her face and nails that day. Very unlike a RCCG Pastor's wife. Not to mention the multi-million Naira attire she wore. Bouncers and guards everywhere, harassing people who weren't fast enough to make way for her grand entrance. So many things were just not right that day. If I wasn't a devout RCCG member, I would have doubted the God they serve there.
When I couldn't take it anymore, I left even before the end of the programme. Their suspension is long overdue, abeg. Heard our Mother-in-Israel has cautioned Siji many times on some of her excesses, but to no avail.They've made themselves demi-gods in City of David. Let them go and rest for three months. City of David (Apapa Family) - The richest RCCG Parish in Nigeria!

Talk true! Na poverty mentality dey do you! You cannot wrap your mind around them living and operating a more lavish church business than the ones you are used to.

RenaissanceGuy:
Didn't you see where he mentioned the issue of inviting Flavour, a secular musician, to the birthday celebration?? That alone was enough to suspend him.

It is OK for their pastors to invite secular politicians but not secular musicians to the church?

lacasera14:
■ Try and reason first. Herbert was the church's biggest benefactor. It doesn't make sense to host a lavish birthday within the period he died. Don't try to reverse it with that your baseless analogy. If it was the woman who died Herbert will celebrate his birthday regardless because he's the benefactor and will most likely fund the burial. It was an insult to the Wigwe's. A man that gave them 1 Billion loan with no strings attached. They should sack that pastor not suspend him. Unless suspension is another word for sack.

So, all this is to say church na business, and the biggest contributors need to be given VIP treatment.

techub:
I have been wanting to create this thread for a long time now, work and time didn't allow me.
So since Nigeria is at home to day I have enough time to do so. My problem is that i have a twin (boys) and they are just 1yr old. This means I have named them. These boys are systematically fantastically accurately and perfectly identical. Most times I get confused that I may have exchanged the names I gave them . A lot of people have advised that I give them a mark or like a scar. But i I if I do so when they grow the one I marked may not find it funny. Pls any who have faced this problem should come to my aid pls

Use a permanent marker to write #1 on the planta pedis(bottom of the foot) of one and #2 on the other. The boys don't know how to write at this point, right?

OP, take time to learn about your children so you can know them as individuals. It is understandable if the world does not know them but it is wickedness when a father or mother confesses not knowing his children.

donprinyo:
So irrelevant sector.

Yet this maybe the only sector of the Nigerian economy that continues to grow. I wonder when the Government is going to begin taxing it!

Omooba77:
Speaking at the service with special prayers for all civil servants, workers in private sectors, youths, corps members, self-employed, unemployed and their families, he partly stated: “…If you need provision, if things are hard and I know things are hard for quite a few of us, call on the one whose name is Jehovah El-Shaddai, the God who is more than enough…
“Call on Him – the one who is more than enough and He will meet your needs…He has many ways, depending on what is your need. When all ways are blocked, call on Him who is called the way when you don’t even know what’s going on.”
While speaking with newsmen, Pastor-in-charge of the RCCG National Headquarters, Adebayo Adeyemo, who gave an update on the church’s empowerment programme, said 1000 persons recently benefited from the vocational skills training and are already producing what they learnt.

This man ehn! Na him gullible followers wey dey suffer in all of this I dey pity. Imagine coming to this life to worship another man, generation after generation!

Xxxylxxxx:
■ Young man! Sit yourself down and think for once. That brain God gave you (not Jesus) isn't there for decoration, so use it! Also, do more research and read beyond your Bible. Your situation is like that of a university student who focuses only on what is taught within the university. After graduation, he couldn't secure a job because his knowledge was limited to what he learned in school, instead of researching his field and understanding what awaited him after graduation.
■ You're only reading your Bible and following it ignorantly, like a zombie. The Bible was authored by human beings, and it is the only book that many people have translated with numerous errors and arguments. That's why we have so many different churches, each doing different things. Jesus and bible my anus

1. Did you know that intelligence can many times mask ignorance? Yes, it is possible to be educated yet remain just as ignorant as can be.

2. I never said I have only read the Bible and yes, all of the books were authored by humans, written in human language, and meant to be comprehended the same as every other book written in human language. Also, except for the Gospels, none of the other religious texts I have read so far claim to grant access to the God of Israel — YHWH. So, whatever you are attempting to argue here, if it does not resolve your earlier claim that Jesus Christ is not the only way to the God of Israel — YHWH—, then it is all meaningless.

thrillionaire:
So why not mind your own business and leave Christians alone? Believe whatever you want but leave Christians alone! Gosh!

How can I leave the Christians to their many lies against the God of Israel and Jesus Christ which they tell the world?

vince2016:
∆ Oga you're not a kid any more now, soldiers in SE and SS are there for peace keeping mission while in the north they are there fully to battle terrorism and banditry. You can't kill soldiers in such manner and the president will not condemn such evil act but soldiers that die during battle is a casualty.

LOL... You rnean to tell us that the entire Northern Nigeria na war zone, abi? Are all northerners even aware of this tall one from you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

jobgbemi:
Then you are not current. The president spoke the two times you mentioned here.

Hr did? Can you provide source for the two times we may have missed?

Rita7asep:
On the other indices, the important thing is that the economy is actually growing. It is very rare to have a situation where authorities, particularly the monetary authority set their target fighting to bring down inflation and prices generally and at the same time striving to keep the economy growing. We do have that.

What part of the economy is growing?

Racoon:
“On the other indices, the important thing is that the economy is actually growing. It is very rare to have a situation where authorities, particularly the monetary authority set their target fighting to bring down inflation and prices generally and at the same time striving to keep the economy growing. We do have that.
“Quarter by quarter when compared to the first quarter of last year, the growth is up by virtually 3 per cent per annum above population growth compared to about the 2 per cent achieved by this time last year. So we do have the economy going in the right direction. We just need to stay that course. In staying the course, help and amelioration must be given across the board.
“I have talked about help that should be given to farmers and consumers. There is also help for small and medium-scale businesses. By Monday, the economy stabilisation plan that deals with the factors affecting big businesses and industry will be on Mr President’s table so that they too can stabilise, begin investment again, create jobs, and grow the economy

What sectors of the economy have continued to grow despite all that has happened in the last year?

Xxxylxxxx:
■ You seem confused. Who is your pastor? It seems people like you must have greatly influenced your pastor because you appear to be quite indoctrinated. However, Jesus is not God; one should never replace anything for the Almighty.
■ Regarding the image you mentioned, the deity you referred to seems to answer the prayers of its worshippers more quickly and readily compared to Jesus that requires substantial financial contributions and extensive prayers for even the smallest request. It's important not to disparage believers of other religions. Let them continue to believe in what they choose, and you should do the same. Nobody can confidently assert that the Christian or Islamic way is the only way. Both the Bible and the Qur'an were authored by human beings.

Please stop going around repeating the claim in bold abeg!

1. Jesus Christ is the God of the Kingdom of God. You may have Zeus of the Greeks or Allah of the Muslims, but as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned, Jesus Christ is the God of that Kingdom. Yes, Jesus Christ is not YHWH but Jesus Christ is God over those who belong to His Kingdom.

2. Also, according to Scripture, Jesus Christ is the only way to the God of Israel — YHWH. No other religion can dispute this fact of His since no other scripture or religious text claims to have access to the God of Israel— YHWH. If you have another way to another deity out there, that is OK but try not to argue from a point of ignorance in these things as you appear just as ignorant as those whom you argue against.

johnydon22:
■ Faith is an important thing in the lives of those who have it hence it makes sense they'd seek to protect it at all cost

Where in any of the books contained in your bible is it written that this faith you speak of is meant to to be used in overlooking errors and contradictions contained within? Where is it written in Scripture that this faith you speak of is meant to be used in the way you suggest?

OgaNightmare:
■ Derived from the Greek word (apokálupsis- 'revelation, disclosure') is a literary genre in which a supernatural being reveals cosmic mysteries or the future to a human intermediary. It may include dreams or visions about events like wars.

Most of the apocalyptic events that are described in the Book of Revelations happened around 1900 years ago - Revelations 1 through Revelations 19 vs 6.

Thugnificent:
■ Nothing really, the Bible is not a novel, neither is it a scientific textbook. Every wording is believed by Faith with the help of the holy Spirit. So if you keep on looking for discrepancies and error it will take an eternity because God the author never made it a common book. You could go read Harry Potter if u bored. But seriously, the word incarnate (Yeshua) has Fulfilled all written and unwritten aspects of Scripture by his death and resurrection. You choose to believe or not is your own cup of tea. But all men must give account of his actions or inactions in this present realities.

This all amounts to religious gobbledegook. Not a single entry in any of the complied books suggests infallibility as a feature of its contents. So, a rational being ought to question where the idea comes from and how it cannot be traced back to the texts themselves.

johnydon22:
■ What made you start asking questions?

None of the books contained lay claim to or suggests infallibility of its content. That ought to cause any reasonable individual out there to question the claim.

thinkmoney:
■ Be ashamed of yourself. And having found to be wrong on fundamental issues, I will advice you to revisit every belief u hold dear, the basis may be faulty.
■ I leave this image with you and then I will stop responding to you. It’s now obvious your knowledge is limited and the only thing one can expect from you is falsehood, concussions or conspiracy theories

You ought to be more ashamed of yourself for choosing to believe the lies you were fed without at least doing some digging of your digging to ascertain the veracity of the claims made .

2. The image you left only propagates the same lie that the Catholic church has fed most of the world before the time of the internet and information proliferation before regular place. Yes, the claim that John was imprisoned on the Island of Patmos for 20 years comes from the Catholic church which you so desperately want to pretend the foundation of your belief is not built on, and it is based on lies. There is no evidence that John was ever thrown in boiling oil, nor is there evidence to back the claim that John was in exile on the island of Patmos in 90AD.

John's book of Revelation records the events to take place before the last day(the destruction of Jerusalem, and the nation of Judea, as well as the battle of Armaggedon — the destructions of the nations) as future events, not events that were present or in the past. These are all events that were prophesied by the Prophets before him who gave a timeline for many of the same events revealed by John. When you consider all of this, you are left with no doubt that indeed, John's book of Revelation was not only written before 70AD— the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem— but even before the kickoff event which was prophesied by the prophets to take place 7 years before the end.

Quintessence44:
■ What a load of lies and garbage. You said: ..all 4 Gospels — Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John — were written within the 40-year period that is the death of Jesus Christ in 31-33AD and the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD. THIS IS A LIE. The gospels were written AT LEAST 70 YEARS AFTER the 'death of Jesus'. ''Modern scholarship tends to date Mark’s Gospel around A.D. 70-75, Matthew around 75, Luke around 80-90, and John around 90-100.''
https://stpaulcenter.com/when-were-the-gospels-written/

Are you certain you in fact read through the contents of the link which you copy-pasted here? First,your post there says, "Modern Scholarship tends to date ...," which means Modern Scholarship is not certain when exactly the books were written. So, on what basis do you declare my claim a lie? You seem to know more so bring it let's review it.

Second, the text goes on to include the excerpt below which is a summary taken from the source included at the end of the page.

A recent book by the New Testament scholar Jonathan Bernier summarizes some of the latest evidence in support of an earlier dating of all four Gospels. Although Bernier doesn’t contest Marcan priority, he does offer a robust case for placing the Gospels before the critical date of A.D. 70. For Bernier, Matthew was likely written around the years 45-59, Mark around 42-45, Luke around 59, and John around 60-70.

Arguments for these earlier dates are multiple, but they include the fact that none of the Gospels speak of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple as a past event, therefore suggesting a pre-70 date of composition. Another argument is based on the fact that Luke’s Gospel was written before the Acts of the Apostles, which appears to have been penned during the lifetime of apostle Paul. Given the scholarly consensus that Luke’s Gospel was the third of the three synoptics, it then follows that not only Acts but also Luke, Mark, and Matthew must have all been composed prior to Paul’s death in A.D. 64/65.

Chibuezem:
■ The foundation of Christianity is not catholic church but Jesus Christ Himself... Catholic church is simply the invasion of Christianity by Roman empire.

This is very faulty belief. Christianity as you know it today is built atop of the foundation that is the Catholic church of Rome. There is nothing of Jesus Christ to it except the mentions of the name and many assertions that a connection exists. When you dig back you will find that those connections are instead lies.

thinkmoney:
■ U are still exhibiting ignorance. Isn’t compilation different from completion? The last book of the Bible which is revelation was completed around the year 100 AD.
■ In that year there was nothing formally known as the Roman Catholic Church. And Mother’s Day or Father’s Day or whatever nomenclature for days are traditions not Christianity. Abeg just park

I am afraid there is no truth to that claim which was instead formulated by your so-called Christian fathers as a way to tie themselves into the Jesus Christ narrative. The book of Revelation was instead written before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem which we know to have happened in 70AD, about the same time which is the end of the prophecy of the Vision of Seventy weeks of Sevens that was given to Daniel in Daniel 9 vs 24

2. What you have as Christianity today is built on the foundation that was laid down by the Roman Catholic church.

Quintessence44:
■ Is it 40 years you are calling 'barely'?
■ Why would nobody write a SINGLE WORD about ''a whole son of GOD'' who came and performed all kinds of 'miracles' including raising the dead, and gave sermons to thousands, was publicly crucified, and raised himself from the dead before flying up to heaven before onlookers?
■ And not a single world about his existence until a full 40 years AFTER he flew to heaven?
■ What.. did they run out of ink after he departed? Y'know, maybe we should research if there was a really terrible mass ink shortage after his ascension, that lasted over 40 years.

1. What I instead meant is that all 4 Gospels — Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John — were written within the 40-year period that is the death of Jesus Christ in 31-33AD and the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD. We are not certain exactly when the writing began but we are certain they were written before the destruction of the Temple.

2. Unlike the Law of Moses, there was no command from God to Jesus Christ that He must be written down in the books.

3. Again, you have several Gospels written of Him within the period instead.

4. You forget that not long after Jesus Christ, the entire city of Jerusalem was destroyed, many of His followers killed off, and about 2/3rds of the people scattered all across the many other nations. So, the fact that the Gospel stories survived all that chaos and turmoil is a miracle on its own.

Everlastingson:
■ All religions are false except Christianity. That's, the Christianity that preaches that you must be born again in Jesus Christ and live a holy. A life that hates and doesn't practice sin. Every other religion will end in tears and perdition. Only true Christianity in Christ saves. Jesus alone walked the earth without doing any sin. All other religions have a sinner as their founder or object of worship. Jesus alone can save.

Which of the over 47,000 denominations/versions/idols of Christianity are true? Which of the many different kinds of born-agains of your religion of Christianity is the real one?

You throw around a religion that boasts over 47,000 different idols of the person of Jesus Christ — each interpretation/denomination paints a different Jesus Christ — as a non-false religion where Jesus Christ is famously known to have been against religion beginning with the one that existed during His own time. Tell us which of the 47,000 different idols of Jesus Christ do these your true Christians believe in or worship?

thrillionaire:
You're such a funny fellow. Aren't you a Christian anymore? Do you even know what you believe in?

When in the world did I ever tell you that I am a Christian? Or is it instead the case that you mistakenly assume that all who quote the Bible subscribe to your religion?

thrillionaire:
Like I said, the kingdom of God is within us.

With well over 47,000 different denominations/idols of God paraded by the religion of Christianity, I highly doubt that claim has ever applied as far as your many gods of men let alone any one of their many sheeples.

sleek214:
You bought expired golden morn. Trash it and move on. Everything must not be on social media. You normally buy on Amazon, so why did you come to Nigeria to buy? Rubbish and Bobrisky

I have eaten cereal well past its expiration date and there were no bugs, mold, or anything of that sort in the bag. So why speak out of ignorance?

Didijiji:
omor I no come understand you o

OP, didn't make declarations. He instead sought and pursued solutions as they presented themselves to him. So wetin be your mentioning of the name of God and pretending you can access what OP has by way of this as if God is some sort of juju force to be used in such a manner?

Everlastingson:
■ The level of ignorance I see in people's comments here is astounding. Several comments are outrightly wicked and don't deserve soft response. But all you on this forum typing nonsense and insulting the OP should know that you're controlled by Satan. If you fail to repent when you die you'll meet the same Devil in hell. Whether you like it or not and whether you believe it or not there's eternity waiting for you to die an plunge into , either to stay with God or to stay with Satan. Jesus died to save men from sin and hell. The gospel may appear foolish to you but it's God's masterpiece by which He destroyed the Devil. Please don't let Satan take you to hell. Receive Jesus and be saved.

Nonsense!

Didijiji:
A declaration

Ever heard the saying, "Actions speak louder than words," or the other, "Empty barrels make the loudest noise,"?