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Azazyel:
■ Hmmm I don't know about this one o. I can't say anything about him until I gather facts. I asked for evidence but you failed to provide.

LOL... you don't know about this one, and you can't say anything about him because you don't have the facts, but somehow you are certain I have failed to provide evidence? You know if you said this during an actual case, you could easily be carted away for utter foolishness.

Jesus Christ said those who use His name to sell what are lies are false teachers and false prophets. This man's every sermon — the evidence you claim you seek — is laden with lies which he sells to his gullible followers using the name of Jesus Christ. If you think otherwise, go ahead and pick any one of his sermons, and we can digest the many claims he throws out to wow his followers by using the name of Jesus Christ.

magoo10:
who is threatening him ? Why are you this serious? I am not tinubu who has caused hunger o

The same money ritual never kill the many politicians you get for that country wey dey grow old and strong for the place. Why money ritual go come kill this man then?

Azazyel:
■ We know that Jesus warned against fake prophets. I personally know some of them and have personally condemned them after seeing evidence. What is your evidence against Olukoya?

Olukoya lies every time he opens his mouth to speak in the name of Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ said that all those who speak lies in His name are against Him, not for Him.

■ Have been ruminating on ds alone for sometime now!..it it true that our path has been pre written out for us from the foundation of the earth?
■ okay take for instance john the baptist he was ordained or let me say destined to be the fore runner of jesus christ, also judas iscariot seems not to have control over his fate cos jesus spoke about the betrayal before it happend at all..
■ Now narrowing it down to our generation pastor adeboye wanted to become a maths prof destiny made him a reknown pastor.Awolowo as versatile as he his in politics never ruled ds country same wt abiola and look at how jonathan emerged from nowhere!...
■ remember the story of josephhe saw mon,sun and stars bowing down and eventually he became the greatest is this destny at work?David the last born of jesse too!!!!!pls do you believe n destiny??sensible comments please!!!

1. There is no truth to the claim as far as Scripture is concerned. The terms Destiny and Fate are foreign to Scripture.

2. Just imagine that those whom you named were singled out by God for the particular roles they were to play in His Old Law of Moses plan which He revealed through Moses. The need for these roles came to an end when the end time was completed over 1900 years ago, after which God put a seal(of completion) on Prophets and visions - Daniel 9.

3. Those men are liars.... they are the false teachers and false prophets that Jesus Christ, whose time began also about 1900 years ago, warned you of. Nothing about your pastors connects back to the God of Israel or Jesus Christ.

4. The era of Joseph, David, etc, passed a long time ago — about 1900 years ago. We are now in the time of Jesus Christ's rule and Jesus Christ never promised those who will become citizens of His Kingdom the ability to see visions or dream dreams in His name. These ideas are foreign to the Kingdom of God.

magoo10:
mind your business or are you that jobless

Are you better than me in that? Again, stop deceiving him with meaningless treats abeg! So many out there did money rituals many many years ago, and are alive to this day.... money rituals never killed them... what do you have to say about those?

magoo10:
are you planning to do money ritual so you can repent later?that money ritual fit kill you and you wont have the chance to repent

Stop deceiving him with treats abeg! So many out there did money rituals many many years ago, and are alive to this day.... money rituals never killed them... what do you have to say about those?

Prophet777:
Figment of your imagination... Count him out, Olukoya is different from them.

Different in what sense? Because he tells you a lot of seemingly interesting tales by moonlight about witchcraft and the lot? Or manages to convince you folks he knows a lot about the devil and demons?

pongwa:
Karma is a universal principle. It is set in course when a balance is tipped. On the other hand, God is divine, He controls Karma although He is the one who fashioned it. They are two different things. Salvation is towards eternal life not to suspend the laws of nature except if the creator wants it. That's why the Bible 'I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy on.....' and also 'the Lord is in the heavens, he doeth as he pleases'

God never fashioned Karma. He fashioned instead His Laws and commanded men to obey them. Karma, the idea held by various religions out there and not the fluid idea floating around in the minds of many out there, does not hold water where Scripture is concerned.

triplechoice:
1. I never asked you for a link to a definition of something, I know how to use Google myself,but what you understand about
karma. . You have shown you don't really understand it. So why continue to argue over what you don't fully grasp?

You asked me a question and I answered you. If you instead wanted me to read your particular mind and post your particular ideas on the topic, I would have not responded since I don't care for that.

judedwriter:
At least, I warned you.

And I am warning you to stop dragging the name of God and Jesus Christ in the mud on behalf of your gods of men.

judedwriter:
I must warn you, Be very careful how you talk about Dr olukoya. He's an anointed man of God and you can put yourself into troubles by talking carelessly about him. He's a genuine man of God not like the many charlatans that full the church who preach the gospel because of their bellies.

I see you are one of those deeply deluded by even this scammer whose only use of the name of God and Jesus Christ is to deceive and delude gullible folks such as you person with. The only thing genuine about that man is his desire to drag the name of God and Jesus Christ in the mud every single time he opens his mouth to speak.

You fear such people because you have successfully convinced your mind to do just that. Free yourself from all these nonsense ideas you hold regarding the God of Israel and the person of Jesus Christ and you will begin to see these men as Jesus Christ said; they are merely thieves who come to steal from you, to kill the fat of you and to destroy His flock using His name.

Other uses of the Greek Word Ecclesia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesia

Ecclesia (Greek: ἐκκλησία ekklēsia) may refer to:

1. Ecclesia (ancient Greece) or Ekklēsia, the principal assembly of ancient Greece during its Golden Age
2. Ecclesia (Sparta), the citizens' assembly of Sparta, often wrongly called apella
3. The Greek and Latin term for the Christian Church as a whole
4. Ekklesia (think tank), a British think tank examining the role of religion in public life
5. Ecclesia College, a four-year Christian work college in Springdale, Arkansas
6. Ekklesia Project, an ecumenical Christian network to promote a more active and God-centered faith
7. Qahal or Ekklesia, a theocratic organizational structure in ancient Israelite society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesia

Neddstark:
Lol. I don't read your crap. Jobless troll

Again, the very words of his mouth and every action reveal him as such. They not only contradict God's decree but render of no meaning the power of God in the lives of those who claim to serve him.

triplechoice:
1. I'm talking about certain ideas attached to it which makes it difficult for most people to understand what karma really is. Buddhism ties it with reincarnation, but others don't ,or do you believe in reincarnation? Karma is not sin,but simply the results from an individual's actions and inactions . These results are not punishment from any god. People who talk as if karma is punishment are only speaking metaphorically ,not understanding this ,is probably the reason you're trying to compare it with what is in the scripture you subscribe to. Go back to the article you shared and see where karma is defined at the beginning as ,deeds ,or actions, and that they lead to consequences. The word, karma ,is originally from Sanskrit,one of the oldest language in the world. Without karma,cause and effect,not will happen in this world.. Focus on what the word, karma, actually describe so you understand it better before considering any thing being connected to it

Please stop trying to flip this all over the place when there is no need to. You asked the definition of Karma and I provided you with a link that connected you to the prevailing ideas held of it by those of the religions Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism. It has always been a religious idea and not something any tom-dick-and-harry can cook up a definition for.

In my later responses, I proceeded to explain that Karma does not apply in the Scriptural context because all things Scripture are weighed against God's Law. The mandate of Obedience from God to all who are under the Law is the determining factor for all things in the lives of individuals. Karma does not apply at all. Heck, Karma does not even work in the real world many of us live in.

About Reincarnation, I would say it is quite possible for those who are not born-again. Anyways, that is all I have on that.

haphizz57:
The word and its derivates are used more than 250 times in Masoretic-derived versions of the Hebrew Bible, of which 10 uses are in the Torah (the first use being in Genesis 10, in the Generations of Noah)

Where?

haphizz57:
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Where?

triplechoice:
∆ In all you still don't know what karma is. What you know about it is what some religious groups are have said about it,and that's why you say it doesn't apply to Scripture.
∆ Karma is not transgressing the laws of any deity as you think you. It's the principle of cause and effect. That's all
∆ The actions you take are the causes of what you get. But your hand in fire, you get burned and learn the lesson. It's has nothing to do with what is contained in Scripture.

1. Huh? Hindu and Buddhist understanding of karma are not acceptable?

2. I am afraid I don't follow your meaning at all. In Scripture, evil/sin is defined by the Law and as such it is by transgressing the law that you incur the condemnation of sin or curse. That, I explained, is not how karma works.

3.

Obinnau:
Pls help!

Sexism and nothing to do with God.

dimexilux:
I have always been wondering, everytime we christian are sharing the grace, we usually stretch our hand. Does anybody knows the reason why we use to do that? Insult is allowed

Because Christianity is paganism under covers, herd mentality with people doing things because they have seen others do it and not because there is real meaning to be had by it.

triplechoice:
1. If that's the definition you're working with,then why have you dismissed karma as not existing.
You believe actions don't lead to consequences?
2. Besides, how is it possible for you to work with opposing ideas about karma from different groups as it's contained in that page? One group insists it's tied to rebirth while the others says no,yet you say it's what you're working with? Which one are you working with?
3. What's clear to me now is that you hurriedly posted a link to an article you didn't take you time to read and understand very well. It's disappointing to even know it's something I have read before. If you don't want to directly reply me about what I asked, What you understand by karma in your own words, then please don't bother anymore. I know I how to use Google to search for answers,but only quoted you to have some discussion with you concerning the topic . And since it appears you don't want that ,my apologies for quoting you. Have nice day.

In the context of Scripture, Karma does not exist nor apply given that instead what applies are laws laid down by God.

2. There are many ideas regarding Karma out there. However, it does not matter whether they oppose themselves or not because the major case here is that none of that applies as far as Scripture is concerned.

3. If you wish to believe that, it's fine by me.

richie44:
I hear pple saying dat faith is nt a substitute for wisdom pls is it true?

The meaning of the word Faith has been bastardized by particularly those of the religion of Christianity with their over 47,000 denominations, sects, and cults, each claiming their interpretation of Scripture is the right one. To answer your question, I feel there is a need to provide a more scripture-focused understanding of the word instead. We learn directly in Scripture that Abraham was justified — approved righteous — by God because of Abraham's faith in God. God provided us with the exact details of Abraham's faith in Genesis 26 vs 5. He told Isaac that He made and kept His promise to Abraham because Abraham trusted Him and obeyed His every commandment and statute. Following Abraham's example means that Faith essentially is the act of trusting and obeying God's every commandment and statute.

Wisdom, on the other hand, we can deduce is the quality of knowing, experience as well as understanding.

If we consider the components of both, we find that Faith in God, for one who wishes to please God that is, can't be considered a substitute in any way or form for wisdom. Neither can wisdom serve as a substitute for faith. Rather, they are both meant to go hand in hand. That is, having wisdom of God would enable one to live a faithful life in God; equally living faithful breeds more wisdom of God to cause one to continue in faith, and so on.

anjowaka510:
Why did Jesus carefully fold his cloth after resurrection?happy easter to all naira lander

Interesting question! Maybe He liked to keep things tidy.

Strafudeen:
I want to know which church is the correct one..or you mean none of them is?

The only true church of Jesus Christ is the church where

1. Every single individual in the church is of equal rank, title, and status -- regardless of birthplace or gender education, or claim, not a single member having even one hair above the rest
2. Jesus Christ sits as the one and only Teacher, Master, Head/Authority/Leader, counselor, Guide, Shepherd, and Prophet.... over each one of those who are in that church —everyone existing and working independently of the others as they are each controlled and commanded only by Jesus Christ

Have you ever encountered such a church in this world?

BarristerWumi:
PRAYER IS THE KEY because it carries the word of God who is the almighty supreme that lesser terrestrials cannot withstand

This is a lie though since the God you claim you pray to instead said Righteousness is the only vessel that carries anything to Him; the prayers of the unholy and hence unrighteous man are an abomination to God.

I wonder if this isn't something similar to what many Nigerian women claim their wombs were removed only for it to somehow grow back instead of mean in their many testimonies intended to give glory to their gods of men.

triplechoice:
I had wanted you to explain in your words what you understand by karma and not you directing me to a page where you think it's explained. How do even you know if what's contained in that you shared is the correct thing?.

The definition of Karma contained in that link is the one I work with. If your idea does not align with that then I can't help you, can I?

Neddstark:
Kobojunkie, I didn't quote you. Keep your foolishness to those who seek it.

Again, the very words of his mouth and every action reveal him as such. They not only contradict God's decree but render of no meaning the power of God in the lives of those who claim to serve him.

Azazyel:
∆ You don't have anything against Olukoya if you can't prove that he is a scammer. Things like these can land one in jail. Before I can call someone a yahoo boy, I must have some kind of evidence to nail him.

Jesus Christ Himself recorded this man a scammer who would come to steal, to kill and destroy his flock using His name and this, Jesus Christ said, almost 2000 years ago. Do you wish to jail Jesus Christ then?

Treasure17:
∆ And you care to back this up with evidence? Or it's júst a preconceived notion you have towards the man and probably typing on the basis of mere assumptions.

He scams people using the name of God of Israel and Jesus Christ is no assumption whatsoever. This accusation was leveled against even your man there by Jesus Christ Himself almost 2000 years ago. It's understandable though that many of you don't care much for Jesus Christ.

I already told you to pick any one of Oyekoya's many sermons so we can dive into these scams of his. Jesus Christ is not a liar to you too, is he?

Azazyel:
Tell us why. What's your experience with him?

A scammer does not first need to scam me to be considered a scammer same way a yahoo boy is not into yahoo only if i am first a victim of his.

OBAGADAFFI:
That's not new.
Most wealthy People belong to cults.

Including your wealth pastors, right?

helinues:
If na real Juju, na another person go dey narrate this.
Juju na Cheetah when it comes to acting while prayer na Hyena

Huh?