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Ololade4:
■ Reasonable answer so far..
According to what I have observed so far with her, your input seems to be accurate with the whole thing..

So you are aware that she doesn't want to be legally hooked to you. So why are you fretting?

boltwings:
These are other people with crucifix including saints....E get why

Below is St Paul of the cross and St Theresa

Paul never held a crucifix, not according to actual records written by his person though.

Wodu89:
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So, am I to take it that you equally believe you accept this woman's tale meaning you completely reject what Jesus Christ said instead?

Ololade4:
■ So we both agreed to go for registry then normal engagement and rest the case.. she later changed her mind, she doesn't want the court registry anymore (i am not move with this anyway, but why? Is she having another secret affairs elsewhere, or maybe she's thinking she may leave if things go south, like she doesn't want to get into a legal marriage that will hinder her from having choice in the nearest future, because I don't understand..).. She only want Engagement, without the court registry for now.
■ Anytime her parents, especially her mom ask her about it in the wedding plan, she will tell her we will do it later in the future .
As a man in the first place I don't need to worry about this in the first place, because all this court marriage registration only favor the woman and I know most of them crave for it... But she... What is she up to??

Oboy, why you dey ask us this kain question? If she no wan marry again, ask her why and come tell us her answer. Obviously, her issue isn't with court marriage but seems to be with marriage with you altogether. She no wan make e dey her record say she marry you. Na you suppose tell us why.

daygee12:
■ Have u ever seen a person in the bible that owns a ministry its only in fraudulent people that does that.

You dey mind these gullible sheeples. Even Jesus Christ who they like to pretend they follow had absolutely nothing like these ministry businesses these mogs like to flaunt as blessings from God; one would almost think by their utterances they are more blessed by God than Jesus Christ was.

Westerhoffe:
■ Stop jumping around…
The above is just a damage control.

Do you really think you're talking to a novice on these stuffs?
See, I don't have your time today.

Again, So what you are saying is that God never said through His Prophets that the end would come right after the Messiah arrived in Daniel, Joel, Jeremiah, among other writings? Jesus Christ never did say that the end which He came to fulfill would take place in that same generation He was a part of?,

MindHacker9009:
■ I have answered your question but you just like to argue because of the heardness of your heart, but you don't even know what you are arguing about.
■ "State laws refers to the law of a federated state, as distinguished from the law of the federation of which it is a part. "

"Byelaws are local laws made by a local council under an enabling power contained in a public general act or a local act requiring something to be done – or not done – in a specified area."

1. You mean you meant these weaves around the question as actual answers to the questions asked?

2. This is what you asked....

MindHacker9009:
So you are saying that the fact that Governors and local Governments can make laws on behalf of the central Government and state Government, that these laws are frauds because they are not directly from the Central Government?

And my response was that local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central and State Government. Governors make laws that apply as far as their local jurisdiction.

YHWH was the one and only Law that the Israelites were given by God to worship--- trust and obey. You however claimed Moses added 603 laws of His own using the name of YHWH. You claimed this was because YHWH gave Moses permission to add, change and even remove from His Law.

MindHacker9009:
■ Moses was God's representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws for his people as they seem fit and your Jesus clearly stated that one of these laws was due to the heardness of your heart as you have been showing us here.

So you are saying that the fact that Governors and local Governments can make laws on behalf of the central Government and state Government, that these laws are frauds because they are not directly from the Central Government?

Again, So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

2. Local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central governments or state governments.

Westerhoffe:
■ Nothing there sums anything up.
I've known you for this long ago.
You're always speaking contrary to GOD'S Word, unless the GOD you're talking of is not the One in heaven above.

So God never said through His Prophets that the end would come right after the Messiah arrived in Daniel, Joel, Jeremiah, among other writings? Jesus Christ never did say that the end which He came to fulfill would take place in that same generation He was a part of?,

MindHacker9009:
■ You should list all the laws where God directly spoke the laws to Moses.

All 613 of them actually given that Moses never once stopped to insist anyone of them were from him rather than from God. Even before his end, he assured the people that they would surely end up cursed by God if they refused to obey the laws that He had given to them. So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

AareGaa:
I don't believe God has blessed him.

He's simply living on the handouts from his followers.
That's not blessing.
He is a religious parasite

You are actually right.

Wodu89:
■ Hahahaha. Abeg I don't have time
Judgement halls I'm invited time to time to come withness events.

So you infused the judgment halls ideas your pastors and mogs into story of God? Is that it?,

Westerhoffe:
■ Your problem is, you always think it's about argument.
Y■ ou decide and compose things up, tag it GOD'S and you want me to digest that just like that? Come on!
Not even with what I know about you.
You darkness pretending to be light. You should have not retrieved your demon that night and let me smash its damn head with the plank in my hand.

1. That first line instead sums you up since I am speaking of God's Word while you keep trying desperately to make this about my person..

2. Again, God Himself said it would happen during the generation that Jesus Christ came in. Jesus Christ Himself confirmed it too. God already decided and carried out His end of days of the Nation of Israel judgment, so I guess the question ought to be why do you not accept God's declaration?

Wodu89:
■ When you die you will see for yourself. I've told you timely you're not on my level and to find your level

You do know that when a non-born-again dies, he/she perishes in the grave --- ceases to exist? However, when a born-again dies, he sleeps in his grave and will be raised after Jesus Christ returns, not before. This is what Jesus Christ taught His followers. So these tales you Christians keep telling. Where do you get them from?

Wodu89:
■ Simple. After death, most people will be screened through around 10-20 halls that are administered by different angels who will check for different qualities before one can make Heaven.
Even if the number of halls spans up to 100, the entire embodiment of the qualities that will be checked for are all traits of The Holy Spirit. If you want to make Heaven assuredly, learn The Holy spirit and pursue after His Personalities and learn them and develop them into your personality and you will make Heaven 100%
The Holy spirit is gifted to you immediately after Salvation and if you continue to develop the relationship and yield to His control, dorectives, yearnings, disciplining, tutorship and guidance, you won't only make Heaven, you'll be Blessed in all ramifications on earth

Screened? Halls ke? You mean Jesus Christ lied in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46? 0r is this an attempt by your person to add to the story your own ideas?

EDOSBROWN:
Many times, I have heard different views, concerning heaven, what are the requirements to make heaven.

Stop hearing from the mouths of men and learn instead what Jesus Christ is written to have said of those who will. Only those who attain holiness and righteousness by the standard that is Jesus Christ, God's Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God can gain the reward of Heaven at the end.

BornofGod108:
All signs of perversion.
Abomination to our God

Which God? Abeg get away!

boltwings:
■Yes I have gotten my personal crucifix for prayers...to increase my personal relationship with God.
Note;
If you think Catholics worship images, it means you don't know your Bible and you are a big disgrace to Christianity. I am not here for arguments but this notice if for fools who would want to argue.
My mind is finally calm, the joy I felt when I got this crucifix was out of this world. I had to travel to another state and got it in the first Catholic church I went to, after searching for about 3 months.

Have you heard of the placebo effect?

Anyways, that junk you have in your hand is worthless and meaningless. The only meaning it has is that which your mind gives it --- a delusion.

MindHacker9009:
■ I never said God gave Moses the right to make laws with His Name. Men wrote the Bible and not God Himself.

So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

ucnwafor:
I wish I can see u and hug u as many times as possible, the blessing of Lord should be upon the church(the children of God), as with the covenant of Abraham

Jesus Christ said that He was sent by the Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel. He also said He does the Will of His Father and not His own will. He added that He and His Father are one -- of one accord ----and that His Father loves Him because He, Jesus Christ submits to and obeys His every commandment . So, of according to Jesus Christ, His Church consists of those who are of the blood of Jacob, tell me where do these blessings you claim your churches have come from? Certainly not the same Father of Jesus Christ who isn't a duplicitous deity.

MindHacker9009:
■ Your Jesus Christ said it that it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws, so I have already answered your question before.

You told these stories and I have many other questions so can please answer.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

Ever8090:
if you are not burn Nigerian you miss a lot.....do dull moment except you don't have data to access the internet, you will laugh and forget your sorrows just as I don laugh forget my hunger with this your comment ...una no dey even think am-e already dey the blood

Everybody knows that to be an Israelite , as God talk am, na by blood and not by the nonsense una pastors dey spew up and down for Nigeria. So, how a Nigerian can become convinced that instructions given specifically to only those Israelites who are of Levite descent equally applies to him or her is beyond reason. One literally has to shut down one's brain in order to believe that hogwash!

CodeTemplar:
■ Stupid man. If ancestry of Jews was about bloodline, how on earth did Ruth get grafted into that ancestry to the point David and Jesus came through her. The Jewish ancestry was a symbol for the bible who will graft themselves in via the force of faith.
Your mumu na everyday, no holiday no timetable.

This one na classic eejit.... didn't the book clearly state that Ruth married Boaz, an Israelite of the blood of Israel and they they both had children--- Israelites, of the blood of Israel/Jacob?

Westerhoffe:
■ You don't get to decide for GOD when He brings prophecies to come to fulfillment.
OK?

God Himself said it would happen during the generation that Jesus Christ came in. Jesus Christ Himself confirmed it too. God already decided and carried out His end of days of the Nation of Israel judgment, so I guess the question ought to be why do you not accept God's declaration?

Westerhoffe:
2 Timothy 2 (KJV)
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¹⁸ Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
¹⁹ Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Again...Last days of God's judgment against the Nation of Israel happened over 1900 years ago as Jesus Christ made clear it would --- in that same generation. So I am not sure what other last days you people continue to yap and tell fairy tales of.

MindHacker9009:
■ The only commandments God wrote Himself were the ten Commandments, so laws were made by Moses based on the 10 commandments where applicable and others his own as needed to lead his people. Even your Jesus Christ said it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

Westerhoffe:
■ What's this one saying?
Like most of what is there have not been happening already.
Devil's incarnate.

Last days of God's judgment against the Nation of Israel happened over 1900 years ago as Jesus Christ made clear it would --- in that same generation. So I am not sure what other last days you people continue to yap and tell fairy tales of.

MindHacker9009:
■ The 613 laws of Moses were derived from the 10 commandments and some were his own, even your Jesus Christ changed one of them saying that it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give that law. God chose Moses to lead a nation so Moses had to make laws that he felt was need for his nation just as nations make laws today. But religious laws of the Bible are only that of Moses and it says no one should add or remove from it.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

MindHacker9009:
■ God made Moses a leader and ruler of his people, so Moses was in a position to make laws for his own people and anyone else that wants to follow his laws.

So God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. So?

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

Westerhoffe:
Vision regarding the Endtimes… The Four Waves
A 90-year old woman from Valdres in Norway received a Vision from God in 1968.
Evangelist Emanuel Minos held meetings in the village, where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told him, what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought, that it sounded so incomprehensible, that he put it in a drawer. Now, almost 30 years later, he realizes, that these visions suddenly become relevant and that he has to share it with others.
The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable and credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her. This is what she saw…
“I saw the time just before Jesus is coming – and the outbreak of World War 3. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I saw the world like a globe. I saw Europe, country by country. I saw Norway. I saw certain scenes that will occur just before the return of Jesus, and right before the final calamity happens. A calamity, which we never experienced before.”
She mentioned Four Waves…
1. “Before Jesus returns, and short before World War 3 breaks out, there will be an alleviation of tension, like we never had before. There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the west, and it will be a long peace.” (Remember, that this was in 1968 when the cold war was at its highest. E. Minos)
“Without a doubt, we had an alleviation of tension after the fall of the Berlin Wall (November 1989), like we could have never dreamt of. An ongoing Peace for over 20 years now between the super powers. The previous nemesis Russia has become not only a trading partner of the west.”
“During this period of peace, disarmament will take place in many countries. Norway will also be among them and we will not be prepared, when it begins. World War 3 will start in a way, like no one would have expected it – and from an unexpected party.”
2. “A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of Christians, a falling away from the true, living Christianity. Christians will not be open for penetrating proclamations. They don’t want to hear about Sin and Grace, Law and Gospel, Repentance and Betterment, like we used to. Instead, a substitute is coming… The Prosperity-Gospel.” (An industrial Prosperity-Christianity)

This na rubbish postulates naw!

MindHacker9009:
■ To show you that your mind is the one that has been bastardize by the laws and religion of men, if not you will know that the Laws of Moses were derived from the 10 commandments where applicable and others his own depending on the situation. Did your Jesus Christ not change the Laws of Moses, saying it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the Laws, and also your Jesus Christ changed some of the laws to suit his own mission which was to please the Roman Empire that invented him.

So basically Moses lied more than 95% the words , "The Lord said...," and so forth, are found his books of the Law of Moses? It was not God at all but Moses himself impersonating God as he made up laws which you claim he based on only the 10 commandments which God gave to him? Essentially, Moses was a fraud who used God's name to install himself as Law over the people of Israel. And
your religious leaders, taking their cue from the fraud, took it on themselves to device more doctrines and traditions to impose on the people using the mentions of the same YHWH?

MindHacker9009:
■ The religion you say is man made was made up from the laws of man as God did not give laws but commandments. Your yhwh is a dragon as discribed in the Bible. It says Samuel 22:9 Smoke went up from his nostrils, and devouring fire from his mouth.
The God I beleive in is the one that spoke to Moses on the Mount and there was no mention of smoke coming from his nostrils.

So, your story so far is that

● God gave Moses only 10 commandments
● Moses then added about 603 statutes and commandments of his own to the 10 commandments which you claim are the only laws God gave to the Israelites to produce the 613 statues and commandments which make up what is referred to as the Law of Moses? And this same Moses also included a commandment which prohibited anyone from adding, changing or removing from the total 613 commandments and statutes --- basically, the Law has it as sin to do so.
● However, you also confess that your religion of Judaism, against Moses' very decree --- in sin against YHWH ----, went ahead and added their own doctrines and traditions via what you refer to as other holy books of Judaism.

Even after all of this you still want us all to believe that the God you worship is the same God who you accuse Moses of lying against, and your religious leaders of standing against?

Na wa oo... religion don bastardize some minds beyond level of comprehension.