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Autobot05:
Marriage is not in my agenda .. but if I see someone I like fr I can consider it.
That wont stop me from running away occasionally tho and the running away isn't permanent na .just a week or 2. It doesn't stop me from loving the person. I think better and reason better when I'm alone and i think it's natural

Imagine if the woman you end up with had to do that very same to you and imagine the many ways that sort of frustration which you describe can present itself in that case. You think 2 weeks max is enough. What if she is gone for months at a time. Would you be accepting of that then?

galaxy2020:
...The woman is trying to pass a message to us, those in Christ embassy read this message very well and pray over it.

Pray over it, what foolishness!

Arkmanbuddy:
Is this a subtle shade on her husband? I dunno.

What husband?

dat9jaguy:
He who has ears let them hear. It might be sound like the rant of a jilted woman but she is saying the truth. Some of these G. O's are vampires

Correction, all of them are vampires!

emerged01:
I was trying to bring my understanding back to the topic because it has been long I raised this topic. 2017

With your post,what can you now say about ecclesiastes 12 vs 7

and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

The Breath of God ---- the same Breath which God put into all creatures which He created -- is the spirit that returns to God when a man dies in unbelief. God did not create men with personal spirits of their own from their birth, even Adam did not have a personal spirit of his own when God made him. For this reason, when God condemned Adam, God declared, "from dust you were made and to dust you shall return" - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22.

Now in Jesus Christ, not only are we able to obtain eternal life but we also acquire a personal spirit of our own when we do - born of spirit as a result of being born again. This means that contrary to what is written in Ecclesiastics, when a born-again dies ---- or a righteous man of Old dies --- rather than return to dust, his personal spirit, mind, body and soul instead sleeps in the grave to be raised when Jesus Christ and raises all the dead..

ictplotter:
Stop misleading yourself and people, it was clearly stated in the book of Revelation chapter 14, that it's only 144,000 that will make heaven.
This present colonial Masters imposed Bible on us is a trash n fallacy.

You are obviously reading that book upside-down-inside-out. The passage you quoted there does not state that only the 144,000 will enter into Heaven. Verse 1 states that the 144,000 stood with the Lamb on Mount Sion. Since when did Mount Sion on earth become synonymous with Heaven?

The rest of the passage speaks of the 144,000 having been the first fruits redeemed by the Lamb meaning that there were others who were redeemed as well. The 144,000 were the first who were marked by Jesus Christ and sealed as well so they were guaranteed Heaven from their beginning. Then they were sent out to all corners of th earth to.teach God's New Covenant and Law to all their brothers and sisters -- Israel --- in every tribe, every tongue and every nation of the earth.

emerged01:
Thank you for your great response.
So after the death of Jesus Christ,they are now in Heaven?

The one who responded there is wrong!

There are no souls in Heaven or in Hell as we speak, this since Jesus Christ made it clear to His followers that it is only after He returns and then judges all who are in His Kingdom that people will then be ushered into either of Heaven and Hell. Until then every person who died believing in God is sleeping in for grave, awaiting the resurrection of all of Israel -- those of them who earned eternal life -- when Jesus Christ returns to rule as King.

Autobot05:
Having to share my personal space with a woman ( esp the fact that shes not my mum or sis )
Walai I will run away occasionally to stay by myself..prolly tell her I'm going for an outside job for a week or 2

Please do not bother to get married at all as what you just described is more than enough confirmation that you are not meant for marriage at all.

Marriage is not meant for everyone and that is very much an OK thing.

emerged01:
Is it misconception to believe that all the people who believe in Jesus Christ will make Heaven?
According to JW,God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:3, 4) Once they have been chosen, they must continue to maintain a Christian standard of faith and conduct in order not to be disqualified from receiving their heavenly inheritance.—Ephesians 5:5; Philippians 3:12-14.

I am afraid you are mixing teachings up left and right. What John wrote of the 144,000 is not that they alone will make it into Heaven. Instead, the 144,000 were the first batch who were marked and sealed by God and then sent out into the world to gather back the lost sheep of Israel, the descendants of Israel who were cursed and scattered by God from every tongue, every language, every race of people and every nation on the earth — the multitude of people who will make up God's Kingdom of Priests to rule the world in His Name.

While the 144,000 — all of them Israelites — are guaranteed Heaven at the end, the multitude — all of them also Israelites — that was gathered back to God by them is not. But when judgment day finally arrives, the 144,000 and the multitudes will be judged by God, some bound for eternal reward(Heaven) whereas others will be bound for eternal damnation(the Lake of fire or Hell).

DavidEsq:
■ why does this guy not understand simple English on the distinction between parrot-like repetitive words and persistence in prayers?
■ Anyway, the scriptures tell us that such one are always interested in big words. 1 Timothy 6:4: "he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words"[b]

1. Consider this, in the very same Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15 which you quoted from, Jesus Christ prescribed for His followers a prayer to recite everything they felt to pray. Is that prayer, given by God Himself not a good enough prayer to repeat?

2. Forget that, because most choose ignorance rather than stretch their minds through beneficial arguments; there is another side to this that you need to consider.

Eneche2:
■ Repetition according to Longman Dictionary is doing or saying the same thing many times. It is said to be the most powerful means of growth and development that ever exist in the cosmos. Daily repetition of prayers continues to build manifestation energies in the etheric realm which eventually bring forth its manifestation in the physical realm. A call for repetitive prayers will force many to scan through their brains to bring Matthew 6:7 to mind. Let me help you. It says” But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking”. I am not a Bible scholar but my little research on this topic revealed that the term translated as "vain repetitions" is battalogein which is unknown in the contemporary literature. It might be linked to the Greek term for babbling, or it might also be derived from the Hebrew batel, vain. It is often assumed to be related to the word polugein, and thus a reference to a large quantity of words. The Good News Translation has it as “meaningless words”. Vain repetition or meaningless words are not in any way synonymous to repetitive prayers. Many Christian today like Martin Luther used Matthew 6:7 to attack Catholic prayer practices such as the rosaries or perhaps ignored this powerful means to answered prayers because to them, God knows their heart desires and besides they have told him in prayer. You are meant to continue telling Him until the answer comes. Jesus as son of God repeats prayers – Matthew 6:42-44. At different times Jesus repeated same prayer saying “O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. Again Daniel, a good man repeated his prayers for 21 days. Though the Bible did not give us the exact words of his prayer, considering what was at stake I can guess and guess right that Daniel’s prayers for 21 days was Oh God reveal the King’s dream and its meaning to me. What of Hannah? For years she prayed- “Lord Almighty, if you will only look on your servant’s misery and remember me, and not forget your servant but give her a son, then I will give him to the Lord for all the days of his life, and no razor will ever be used on his head.” We all know what follows the many years repetitive prayers. You must not be tired or discouraged. Keep telling Him (God) that your very need, you will get the result for there is power in repetitive prayers.

(c)Cletus

Bullsheet!

qwertyboss:
■ You just lack knowledge of the scriptures.
■ You have been twisting and bending my questions back to me since because you couldn't make any reasonable point.
■ I rest my case because no one can argue with a decapit

1. You couldn't find any passage in scripture to support your ludicrous claim regarding spirits, could you?

2. The only point here is you claimed spirits neither eat nor drink. And I am waiting for you to provide us with a scriptural reference to substantiate your claim.

3. Meaning you lied to us that spirits do not eat or drink and you think you can wiggle your way out of admitting to this lie of yours so easily?

edoairways:
Who inspired Paul to write the bible if I may ask?

Regardless of who inspired whom, Jesus Christ was emphatic that those who belong to Him listen to Him alone and His friends do what He says. So you obviously have for yourself another God other than Jesus Christ since you clearly don't care much for what Jesus Christ said as you would rather follow the example of a man in this.
Jesus Christ didn't even instruct any of His followers to follow His example and He is the Way they are to obey. So for you to ignore Jesus Christ all so you can follow the example of a mere man allows one conclude fully that you have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ except but the fact that you type and say His name a lot.

edoairways:
So what would you say when Apostle Paul said this in 1 Cor 4:15?
1 Corinthians 4:15
NLT: For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you.
It didn't occur to you that Timothy was called son by Paul in 1 Cor 4:17?. Who mentored some of the great apostles of old , did they fall from the moon?

I am afraid I don't owe you any say since unlike you Jesus Christ is God over. Paul's example mean absolutely nothing.

kunkelhanspeter:
I am my best friend just need someone to talk to

Then why are you afraid that folks might start billing you as though you care enough to hold on to folks like that, to begin with?

Omooba77:
Why do God Allow Wicked Men to Prosper and live Long?
Example King Saul, Pharaoh, Mannaseh, the son of Hezekiah.

God never said He would deny the wicked and ungratefully the approximately 120 years on earth now!

KingAzubuike:
We've all heard about the trending case of a girl in benin raped and butchered in a church. Where was God when all those bullshìt happened right in his house? . Was he happy with the scenerio, enjoying the view an probably even masturbating to it? I'm so confused.

How were you able to certify that the building and the people who frequented it belonged to the God of Israel?

kunkelhanspeter:
Been living alone for 3 years now in Uyo no friends to talk to , I need change that this year I really want to make new friends not the type that will start billing me when they know the kind of person you are . If you are interested just let me know I base in Uyo and 13th will make me 32. Both male and female are welcome.

No billing

Start by becoming your own best friend, then you will be able to spot those who agree with you rather than going out in fear that you might be billed by others for seeking friendship.

qwertyboss:
■Genesis 18: One day on the plains of Mamre, Abraham and Sarah were visited by three strangers. Abraham offered them food and drink, as was customary in the Jewish faith. They revealed themselves as angels and said that they brought a message from God that Sarah would become pregnant. She did, and in time gave birth to Isaac. The angels being spirits if God didn't ate the food Abraham provided.
■I challenged you to point a verse where it is said that spirits ate food... If you found one it's definitely a Roman mythology but not religious scripture

1. You claim the strangers were angels so where in the passage of Genesis 18 is it stated that these angels of yours refused to eat, and they did so because spirits don't eat or drink?

2. Your challenge is nonsensical. You are the one who claims spirits do not eat or drink so you should be the one here proving your statement by way of a reference to a passage that in fact provides backing to what you claim. .

qwertyboss:
■Hope you are reading the scriptures well! And do quote any place where it is said that a spirit eat or drink...
■Except you mean Jennis or Jins.

1. First, quote for me where it is written that spirits do not eat or drink. Let's start there first.
2. What in the world are those? Fairies and goblins?

Rekhina:
kidney abi na kidney beans kobojunkiee you are sick.
I just typed now ie once in two weeks in this daft forum nairaland fool of urchins and miscreants only for a subhuman named Kobojunkiee to say I am jobless like terrezo2002?

Abeg nairaland me and kobojunkiee who is jobless like terrezo2002?

At least in my joblessness I don't type up this sort of bunkum. If you are trying to agitate for a separate section for those who you consider freethinkers, at least do so in fairness. Athiests gang up on pretty much most threads in this section there is rarely any separation of the kind you imagine here. So for you to claim Christians troll threads belonging to your freethinkers — at first, I got this picture in my head that there was some particular section for your freethinkers — almost gave me a headache trying to reason what your OP was about.

qwertyboss:
God? You mean Jesus Christ? But spirits don't eat or drink.
And Jesus did those

Who told you spirits don't eat or drink? Where did you get that idea of yours from because it does not even agree with what is written in scripture?

Sand2022:
No. I don't see any contradiction, because all true christians will be greater than 144000 in number.

And as John clearly told you in that same Book of His, the Christians — the multitudes — will all be of the same blood of Israel that the 144,000 were of.

Rekhina:
Kobojunkiee you will bear me witness on this

Which witness I go bear? How many groups have sections of their own here abeg? Blood Oath ko!

Rekhina:
■It happens that in Religious section ( since atheists has no section ) xhristian trollers can troll threads of atheist and freethinkers without getting banned but atheist trollers get banned on first report against them . Where is the equality? ! Where is the love for humanity!!! ?
■A l*usy mod allowed idle pastor terrezo2002 to troll freethinkers' thread for months and one of us reciprocated and was banned because he was called a demon, all this una hypocrisy go backfire on you wicked turncoats.
Seun Group of light seekers supports your oath and pledge on Islam , please kindly make it a blood oath or occult blood oath we support you

1. Are you kidding? Do Christians have a section of their own? Do Hindus, Pagans, etc., have sections of their own?

2. Abeg, if you don't have a job, go get one, ojare!

Sand2022:
Not all the tribes of Israel are mentioned there.

Is that some sort of law/rule that says all the tribes of Israel must be included among the 144,000 that were sent out by Jesus Christ?

Sand2022:
Fair question. Let's consider the timing for the great crowd. They are shown AFTER the Great Tribulation. If this GT refers to final consummation (which JW agree), it then means that John is still seeing this same 144000, but this time AFTER the Great Tribulation while verses 4-8 see the same group before the Great Tribulation.
Your comment however, clearly shows the unlikelihood of the JWs understanding. Because as the great crowd is not sealed, according to JWs, then they will be harmed. That's why that understanding has an issue. If you did understand my position, you will know that I was not saying that only a literal 144000 will be saved.

In Revelation 5, you are told the function for which the Lamb of God is meant to serve in the story of the 144,000 and the multitude.

6 Then I saw a Lamb standing in the center near the throne with the four living beings around it. The elders were also around the Lamb. The Lamb looked as if it had been killed. It had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God that were sent into all the world.
7 The Lamb came and took the scroll from the right hand of the one sitting on the throne.
8 After the Lamb took the scroll, the four living beings and the 24 elders bowed down before the Lamb. Each one of them had a harp. Also, they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s holy people.
9 And they all sang a new song to the Lamb “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because you were killed, and with your blood sacrifice you bought people for God from every tribe, language, race of people, and nation.
10 You made them to be a kingdom and to be priests for our God. And they will rule on the earth.” - Revelations 5 vs 6 - 10

What this tells you is that those who were bought by the Lamb — from every tribe, language, and race of people, and nation — are to be made by God into His Kingdom of Priests. Well, that promise was made by God to the children of Israel alone - Exodus 19 vs 6. And so it follows that the 144,000, along with the multitude described, are all descendants of Israel.

AntiChristian:
■He did contradict himself and you're placing the Deuteronomy verses over the John verse!
■God said he won't forsake his own yet he forsook Jesus by cursing him despite the claims he was guiltless! Jesus on the other hand claimed God would never forsake him as he does what pleases him.
This can't be reconciled!

1. Jesus Christ said nothing He, Jesus Christ, would do could cause His father to forsake Him. How then does that mean that Jesus Christ contradicted Himself? He didn't do anything and so the Father did not forsake Him for anything which He did.

2. Again, anyone who stands in violation of God's Law is against God meaning such a one does not belong to God. And according to the Law, anyone who is hung on a tree to die stands against God — violates His Law. This isn't rocket science for Pete's sake!

AnonymousCEO:
There wasn't anywhere in my post i was judging, i was only giving an instance

Your instance suggests the woman did not conceive because she was a virgin at that age. And my question is how did you come to your convenient conclusion there?

Sand2022:
It is clear and some tribes of Israel are mentioned. However, to get the meaning, you would need to compare what else is said of that same group in another scripture.

What other meaning?

Sand2022:
■If you're saying that the 144000 are Israelites, and that these Israelites are the marked ones sent out to gather their brothers, Israelites. Hmm. From that verse, it is clear that those that have the mark are people of all the nations, not Jews. Am I missing something?
■Secondly, remember that those exempted from the "hurt" of Rev 9:4 are those having the mark only. Meaning that others get hurt. Our interpretation should therefore encompass all through christians as God can't smite His own faithful people right?

1. The context of that passage begins from about verse 7 where God makes clear that what is said is in reference to Jerusalem.

2. As for where you got the information on the 144,000 from, It is explained that they were taken from the 12 tribes of Israel.... 12,000 from each tribe.

Jashub:
Lol...you're daft . ;D1. You are referring me to Nigerian bullshit that doesn't have a concrete database and you want me to take that as verifiable data ? You must be out of your Goddamn mind
2. How many Osinachis are out there ? For everyone 1 you call , I'll send you 50 men .
3. It's not a delusion . Kindly read on the history of mankind and see for yourself.
4. What's the statistics of men who marry higher than their class ? What's their number ...can you tell us? For every 1 you mention I'll give a 100 who are married to women that have no value whatsoever

What are you still going on about here? Since your conclusion is that men choose hypogamy because it is what women want meaning men's choices in marriage are ruled by women in your psyche, what is there to debate again?