₦airaland Forum

qwertyboss:
Do you know what is seal of God on their foreheads? It's the prayer mark on those who prostrate... In essence Muslims. Your research is leading you somewhere. Kudos

Um.... That makes no sense of any kind. God is spirit and you think the seal He would place on men is a superficial one — one of the human body?

Jashub:
The statistics don't show that men are hypogamous . Hypogamy is mostly done by women . Because women will(forever ) need a provider(men)

So, basically, the statistics that also show that some men do in fact marry women of the same class and higher are to be ignored because it is the women to blame for why other men choose to marry down?

Jashub:
■You are a bitter woman who will forever remain unmarried. Please how many "Osinachi'" women are out there... ?
■Can you compare than figure to the number of men who actually pay for everything? Please do , you'll be shocked at the number !
■Secondly , it is a fact that from the dawn of time, women have never been doing anything other than servicng men and engaging in baby production. But thank God for modern day society , which has given women a chance to prove themselves ...but unfortunately, they can't bring anything to the table. Isn't it a shame ?
■ And by the way, most men are not into hypogamy ...infact, the case is the reverse because women will always want to marry someone who is by far richer than their ancestry .

1. https://innovativeresearchmethods.org/22252-2/

According to research, there are lots of married women out there who are breadwinners in their own homes.

2. I wouldn't want to do that since most of those men chose hypogamy for selfish reasons. So, there is no point in comparing the number of Osinachis out there to the number of men who chose hypogamy for the sake of their egos.

3. That is no fact but a private delusion of yours.

4. So, the many other men out there who marry women of their class and higher are not men, abi? And the women they are married to, are not women, right?

Sand2022:
My submission is that the 144000 evidently refers to all true christians during the period close to consummation of this age.

First things first, the 144,000 are all Israelites. This from the context of the very same book of Revelation where you claim to have gotten your information from. Second, they all have the mark of God, and according to scripture, those who were marked by God were instead those sent out into the world to bring back their brothers and sisters — Israel — from all the ends of the world - Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 23 meaning these are people who were sent out from the beginning of the march to gather the lost sheep of Israel, and so are not of this age.

Jashub:
I see you're eager to be stupid as usual. Anyway, I just sent you a new message. So kindly tell us here what women bring to the table? Especially now that society has given women the right to work and earn as their male counterparts

Again, who send you to bring all to the table when you can instead get a woman who can carry some of that load with you instead? Who send you hypogamy if not your ego and desire to claim power and control over the woman by proclaiming you bring all to the table?

Jashub:
■You're still talking like someone whose suffering from selective Amnesia, but
I'll still throw the question: ■What do women bring to the table ? Because it is obvious that men are : 1. The providers in the marriage 2. The pay the bills, rent and children's school fees 3. Proctect the kids and the women(even the ungrateful ones) from harm .
■With all these , what do women actually bring to the table other than pussy (which is sold in a brothel for 2500)? If you can't answer , then you'll perish in your father's house unmarried and bitter

1. Do you think I engage in those nonsensical debates amongst your kind?

2. Please visit commonsense abeg! There are women out there who are able to share all the responsibilities you listed and more. Osinachi, who is worm food today, did all you listed in her own marriage. So, again, the question is, why do you choose women who are not able to contribute only so you can come and beat your chest as if some gorilla that you carry it all for head? Who send you?

3. Women have been doing it all for centuries... even before the time of your ancestors. So the major question remains, why do you date down, against commonsense, all so you can come to beat your chest like a gorilla that you do it all? Who send you?

Jashub:
So what do you bring to the table ? Let me guess , your entitled mentality and pussy ...right?

Again, this is a very stupid question to ask a random person since no random person can meet your standard. You decide what your standard is and then you find dates that match that standard you have for yourself.

Hypogamy is not of common sense but of foolishness for both men and women, so it makes no sense for a man to date hypogamously, then go out and complain that he is having to carry it all on his head — only a fool does that.

Jashub:
■What do women bring to the table...? That's the question I asked.
■As for modern women, was your grandmother talking and dressing like Cardi B or Nicky Minaj?
■Continue deceiving yourself...you go old for your papa house

1. That is a stupid question to ask since you decide by your choice what the woman you want has to bring to the table — the same way women decide what their choice of men should bring to the table. if you want a woman who brings half of the finances to the table, then commonsense is that you would only want to date those women who are able to meet up to that standard you have in the relationship. It is nonsensical to ask this question while you blindly go around picking women who don't even measure up.

2. Why does the modern woman or cardi B or Nicky Minaj have to dress like their grandmothers? Do you yourself dress as your ancestors did? Nonsense!

3. Please stop spewing trash pretending you can hit wisdom by it.

Jashub:
■You're talking rubbish as usual . Please where are the men that are marry the so called "rich women"? ■What's the statistics and can you name them? .
■Secondly , do men get to spend the money that women make ...?
■You keep deceiving yourself by eulogizing modern women(aka feminists)who actually have no value to a man . In fact, what value does a woman bring other than pussy and herself ?

1. Comprehension be your issue abi wetin?

2. So, now you want statistics, huh? Go on nairaland to see troves of posts from Nigerian men insisting it is better to marry down for their peace of mind or whatever when in actual fact, they do so in order that they can sit as gods over their women in marriage.

3. So a man marrying a woman in the same economic class as he is at least is out of the question because the man cannot spend the money the woman makes?

4. Modern women? This has been the culture in that country since the time of your ancestors — marry down in order to claim power and control over women in marriage. The men who go against the grain remain in the minority even to this day.

5. Abandon Hypogamy, and find common sense abeg!

AntiChristian:
■How will i know? The details of Jesus's lifetime from 1-30 years are largely not in the Bible.
■Because Jesus won't contradict himself vis a vis John 8:29 vs Deuteronomy 21 vs 22 - 23.
■ Because God said He would never forsake his own. Psalm 94:14, Romans 11:2, 1 Samuel 12:22, Psalm 9:10 and Psalm 37:28

1. So, you ignore the fact that Jesus Christ declared He was forsaken on the cross... all so you can chase after a phantom idea that He must have sinned instead.. OK.

2. If you believe Jesus Christ didn't contradict Himself then why do you keep insisting He did by pretending that the same Law and Will of the Father which He, Jesus Christ, made clear He lived in submission and obedience, took on a place to lesser importance?

3. Those very same texts also explain to you that those who belong to God are those who are not in violation of any of God's Law. If God says anyone who is hung on a tree to die violated His very Law, does that mean such a person belongs to Him still?

Jashub:
■ Hypogamy isn't what men do...and you know why?Most men are actually richer than their female counterparts, which in essence forces them to marry below their status .

1. Please stop. So the many unmarried rich women out there are what? Cow fodder?

The vast majority of Nigerian men desire power and control in marriage and they know the only way they can get that is to marry down. That is why many of them will date successful women but marry down when it is time to settle down. This is not a secret at all.

Curiouscity:
■The bold words above is the bane of marriages in many Nigerian families. Some girls/ladies go into marriages as a source of wealth or some would say "poverty alleviation ".
■You listed all the good things a man could do which requires "no money", but the only bad characteristic is being "broke".

1. Men majorly embrace Hypogamy in order to source for themselves power and control over another human being in the name of marriage. So, why aren't the same women to take advantage of the potential poverty alleviation that goes with such unions for at least as long as they can have it?

2. Of course! What other rational reason exits for a woman to enter into such a union where a man sits as god over her if not what he provides? Why blame women for stating the obvious.

Jashub:
Marriage isn't a blessing ,especially if you're the type of guy who's stuck with a disrespectful female.

You mean the type of man who thought of marriage as a way to achieve his lust for power and control, particularly by way of hypogamy?

AntiChristian:
■No, Jesus must have disobeyed God.
-■The Book of John supersedes/abrogates the Deuteronomic verse.
■Not fair from a Merciful God!

1. So, tell us then what Jesus Christ did to disobey God?

2. You arrived at this claim of yours how?

3. Not fair? Well, are you to tell God what laws He can or cannot to His own people? If the people to whom the law was given did not see fit to complain, who you?

AntiChristian:
■The only reason God would forsake Jesus according to John John 8:29 is when he does what displeases God.
■ Yeah, i quite agree! So it doesn't matter whether a person sins or not. Once anyone is condemned and hanged on the cross or tree like this the person is cursed by your God and hence forsaken!

1. Yes, the curses listed in Deuteronomy 28 apply as far as those who disobey God, and yes, Jesus Christ lived His life in submission and obedience to God's Old Law or Moses as an Israelite. However, the curse in Deuteronomy 21 vs 22 - 23 is not as a result of disobedience or anything a one does.

2. Pretty much what it says there and hence what happened to Jesus Christ.

AnonymousCEO:
@onumadu Maybe you are right..... i know of an aunt who married as a virgin at age 30 in 2018. She hasn't conceived till now, i pray GOD grants her happiness and a large family

Are you her doctor to conclude the reason she has yet to conceive has to do with her marrying as a virgin at the age of 30? Have you also examined the husband to make sure he is not at fault?

onumadu:
■ Your response shows that you did not understand my submission, and yet you've already started insulting me.
■Also, in your world every woman is fertile congenitally? There are no women born infertile in your world? Do women who somehow damaged their reproductive system prior to marriage also conceive? To break it down for you, the theory assumes NATURALLY fertile women. You know those people who somehow can't conceive and doctors can't tell why? I know a few of such couples, and I'm sure you do too! And I ended by challenging readers to prove me wrong by providing counter-narratives, even if only anecdotal.
■Your insult was unnecessary and unprovoked. You should not blame me for your lack of comprehension and analytical reasoning.

1. Did you even bother reading the story at all before you started rambling?

2. Again, you ramble on about conception where nowhere in the story is it mentioned that she had problems conceiving.

3. I didn't insult you. Just making it clear that all you posted amounts to gobbledegook.

onumadu:
■ This lady doesn't know that she just proved one of my theories right. The theory is that the later a woman waits to have sex, the more difficult it would be for her to have children later.
■Marrying at 33 as a virgin is asking for trouble (as far as having children is concerned). She spent a whole year in marriage and never conceived. Most women without issues conceive within 6 months of marriage. Still waiting to be proven wrong on this theory.
■Not saying that females should engage in under-age sex. Rather saying that women should MARRY AS SOON AS THEY CAN so they can start having sex, hence increasing their fertility (conception chance) early enough. Don't take my words for it, just do your own research. Look around you. Which women are having children easily, and which women are struggling.
She should have at least had a baby with her last husband before considering divorce.
She may wake up years later still struggling to have a child. Well...

1. This is a very senseless submission.

2. So all the women out there who married at young age only to wait 10 or more years before their conceiving are what? Not women at all?

3. Go get your head checked and stop postulating bullsheet theories born of what amounts to your brain farts.

I was told to have a child to secure my crashing marriage after I married as a virgin’ – Chigul makes shocking revelation

Nigerian media personality, Chioma Omeruah better known as Chigul has opened up about the series of advice she received from people when she was married. Chigul, revealed the advice while reacting to Basketmouth’s estranged wife Elsie Okpocha ‘s post on women, marriage, and kids.

Elsie, a mother of three had taken to her Instagram page to caution people against shaming unmarried women. She noted how ladies and women get shamed for late marriages and late childbirth. Reacting to Elsie’s post, Chigul wrote:

Someone told me, just born one hold am. I was like are we playing cards? Hold am kwa? Hiaaaan! Nigerians are too forward.

Glamsquad notes that Chigul was once married and the union crashed after just one year and she held herself responsible. On Kemi Adetiba’s King Women series, Chigul said:
“We were not perfect, there were good days I won’t lie. It just got to a place where we both didn’t care anymore. I have been made to believe that it was my job to keep that afloat and the fact that it sank, I take on my head. I didn’t understand why no one except my siblings cared to ask how I was doing. I was depressed and I didn’t care. I wasn’t going to kill myself but the sweet, funny girl didn’t want to come out. I felt like I was going through a tough time with my marriage and everyone was saying go back to your husband and no one asked how I was feeling.

I had nowhere to land, it fell apart and I didn’t want it to. When I needed people to be there for me, no one was there. The worse was when I heard that my husband had a child with someone else, a year into our separation.

The worse thing for me right now is not being in a relationship but I wanted to give my mother grandchildren. My success with my career is great, it’s wonderful. I thank God for it every day but I want other things. I did some things wrong for instance I sold the wedding rings and I told him I did. In my mind, my rings were a symbol of something that didn’t exist. It was a circle I was wearing on my finger while I had an absentee husband. It was one of the worst things I ever had to go through but one of the best things because it taught me so much.

The ‘Road to Yesterday’ actress said she was a virgin when she got married at 33 and expressed joy at not having any child from the marriage.

Would I have changed anything about it? No, because it happened for a reason. I’m happy it happened at one year with no children, no attachments. I married at 33, I married a virgin. That was my first ever anything and it was supposed to be special and last.

Chigul further told of how she was a serial failure at school. She noted that it was extremely tough on her because of the status of her father as a former military governor of Anambra state.

In academics, I wasn’t necessarily the brightest; I was kinda dull when it came to schoolwork. So form 4 came and we did final exams and I failed so I had to repeat a class. When I got to Lagos, I told my dad that I was going to repeat Form 4. The next thing I knew, I was in Airforce secondary school in Lagos he said there was no way I was going to go back to Jos and embarrass him how can Samson Emeka Omeruah’s daughter be repeating a class?

I was never into school. I took the Cambridge exam, JAMB, WAEC and I didn’t pass too well. I was failing woefully. When I took TOEFL and SAT, I did okay and I got into Delaware University.

Braintaf23:
Lol no bro

I thought he maybe knew them.

Gospel2Day:
Again, I pity your ignorance.
■ Did Jesus ever hold spiritual/religious meetings in buildings, like the Temple and people's homes?
■ Did He ever tell His disciples to NEVER build a place to hold spiritual/religious meetings?
■ Did you ever see the sentence "the church that meets in someone's house" in your own Bible?
■What you do not understand is the difference between the Infancy Stage of the Divine Movement called Christianity or Church and its Developed/Mature Stage.
■ Have you ever seen any child under the age of 20 thinking or talking about building a house or edifice? Does that mean that child will NEVER build his/he own house? You're clearly ignorant and incapable of Deductive Reasoning? From your words, I could easily diagonize your problem. It's both spiritual and mental.
■ Jesus started the Sunday meeting with His disciples as He was always appearing to and visiting them on the first day of the week. Read what Apostle Paul said to believers in 1Corinthians 16 also, about Christians meeting every Sunday.
■ Read church history, you will find out that early believers fasted twice every week and meet in the evening to pray and break their fast on Wednesdays and Fridays. Read and cure your ignorance before rushing to the internet to announce your ignorance to the world and shame yourself.
Shalom.

1. Jesus Christ instead went around calling people out from the synagogues and temples, and homes to come to follow Him instead.

2. Jesus Christ taught His followers to not use His name for that which He did not command of them, so when you build your churches and claim you do it for Jesus Christ, you actually commit sin against Him who never gave you permission to attach His name to such activities.

3. Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him are those who do as He commands them to. So, if you are busy following the examples of others rather than doing only that which Jesus Christ commands, then you are not of Jesus Christ - John 14 vs 15 - 20. It is not ok to state that because you saw the words "the church that meets in someone's house" in scripture means you should do the same using the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, again, said His friends are those who do as He says - John 15 vs 14.

4. What you just spewed there amounts to a meaningless bullsheet. Jesus Christ didn't teach any of His followers such bullsheet.

5. Ah! Deductive reasoning ... that is what you call the many doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ instead warned His followers against proclaiming them all lies which are meant to deceive and delude many away from following the Truth of God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. Jesus Christ called them all lies, so, yeah!

6. Wow... so because Jesus Christ rose on the 3rd day, you conveniently concluded that to mean your Sunday meetings are sanctioned by Him? You must think of yourself as a deductive-reasoning champion in your church to have come up with that one .... LOL. You even found a way to rope Paul into what is foolishness. So, even though Jesus Christ never commanded it, meaning He never gave you permission to use His name for your Sunday worships, you think it makes sense to claim you do it for Jesus Christ, and use His name as though it is sanctioned by Him because of your deductive reasoning abilities?

7. So, never mind the fact that Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in His Law — God's New Covenant and agreement in the Kingdom of God— that the only way to honor Him, and the Father, is to obey His teachings and commandments, you believe instead that following pagan rituals such as this fasted two times a week on Wednesdays and Fridays which you suggest dates back to your church history — starvation diets are Pagan rituals and not commanded by God by the way - Zechariah 7 & Isaiah 58 — using the name of Jesus Christ is what Jesus Christ wants from His followers?

gasparpisciotta:
The lady looks more dominant

You cannot tell a person's personality type just by the way they seat or how they look. This New Year, let's spend time learning not to judge a book by its cover, shall we? You can catch up on the personality types at least from the following link https://www.personalityperfect.com/16-personality-types/

OP, Congratulations! Here's wishing you both a lovely union!

apache22b:
Is this happening in Lagos ? Around Wilmer Axis ?

Braintaf23, you never respond to this naw! Na the place be this?

FavouredNK:
■I honestly i did not look at your username before wasting my precious time responding to you because I do know that most of these J.
■ People usually reason things upside down as their heads doesn't do the normal 360". So check the next door, I m not available.

1. Now you descend to attacking my username as if your case is made legit by that dumbness on your part?

2. You have yet to show here that you can even reason halfway through that which you prescribe.

xristos:
■No.1 is out of context.. eunuchs are a minority for specific purposes..so has nothing to do with marriage population
■ No.2 is on point... marriage is of dis world

1. How do you come to conclude that they are a minority? Or are you under some delusion that because a person is in a marriage it means the person was created by God to live as a Eunuch or what?

2. Hence the reason you need to stop dragging God into your debates regarding marriage because there is no amount of God that will cause your marriage not to fail. Consider the case of Moses, Ezekiel, Hosea..... the list goes on.

FavouredNK:
■You sure have a way of reading your bible upside down if you do have one and I will never stop connecting God to marriage because marriage is a union ordained by God himself so you just have to deal with that.
■Moreso I don't care about your definition of genuine love, I define mine by my understanding and yes call it whatever you like
■but I am proudly a Christian and goes to church. And so because I stand on the rock that is Jesus, I don't give a damn about ur unguided talk about Christians
■but one thing I m sure of is that myself, my whole family members and my marriage will outlive you and ur cohorts in Jesus name, Amen!!

1. Oh, so to read it right-side up is to completely ignore what God said so you can assert instead that which you prefer?

2. So you do at least understand that we each have our own individual ideas of what genuine love pertains then? Then what was that nonsense-filled ramble earlier about genuine love as if it were overarching?

3. That all means absolutely nothing where marriage is concerned.

4. That can never happen actually, and Jesus Christ is exactly the reason why.

xristos:
kai i salute u bros..ure one of the most controversially complicated persons existing

Let me guess, you don't agree with what God Himself says so you kick against me instead?

xristos:
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it's not bad in itself..as that's one of the biblical prerequisite...what now happens if ure not getting the sex in the marriage.
ur partner may just deny u for stupid reasons.
marry person wey no dey take sex joke o..matching libido

Matching libido? There is no such thing as sex hormones in humans can never be synched up. So, when the sex hormones run out on his next partner, you will also advice him to find another to marry for the sake of sex, right?

FavouredNK:
■This your response has also gone a long way in revealing how much of parental love you lacked in growing up hence you so demean the value of love in life generally.
■Love is something that infuses in you when you are the midst of it and reflects in you anywhere you find urself even without you knowing it. This is why it's very important for parents to create an atmosphere of love in their marriage to avoid raising toxic children who becomes a trait to the society and humanity.

1. So, in your assessment, children raised with what you claim is much parental love can not have different measures for love at all? They are like robots who can no longer think outside of the box because of how much parental love they supposedly received growing up.

2. What you continue to describe are nothing but fantastical ideas of love — typically born of brain chemicals — and with no real substance to them. If I asked you to write down a list of things people who love would typically do, I bet you would come up with a kindergarten list of ideas as a result.

FavouredNK:
■We do not need your validation to ascertain if our marriage is successful, enjoyable or blissful. It's us and only us in that marriage, built to our taste and our choice and it has been working beautifully for us for over 23 years now. I am not in any law court with you or anyone else for me to present my hubby as a witness for you to believe in whether what I said is true or not . It is what it is and you either believe me or believe what you like it's a free world. We are all entitled to our opinions when it comes to matters of the heart and no one can force another to think and act like the other.
■ Whatever works for you go with it and leave me with mine as I owe you no clarifications.

1. I am not giving you validation. You told a story and I simply acknowledged receipt of your side of the tale! However, I look forward to also hearing from the other person in the partnership to conclude on the truth of your claim. That's all!

2. Na you tell story!

xristos:
■i wasnt even talkin abt procreation..tho it is enshrined in the aim.
how do we multiply if we dont procreate.
■Fulfilling flesh desires legally n morally(without guilt) which Will lead to procreation is the aim.

1. There are other ways to multiply apart from procreating. Also, the same God who you claimed enshrined procreation instead said He created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuch in this life, and allowed others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 12. Clearly, God Himself doesn't agree with your belief that procreation is enshrined in marriage.
2. You can do whatever you want with your fleshly desires, but don't pretend that it has to do with God abeg! In Luke 20 vs 34 -36, following what God decreed in Genesis 3 vs 16, Jesus Christ made clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.

PlanktonX:
■Apart from these things you mentioned, what other thing is so strong and valid to hold marriage again?
■Abi, na LOVE? Oyinbo weh dey love, how many marriages dey survive? Bare 2 out of every 10 marriages.

■You see those society, kids and poverty get weight here, and if God come bless the marriage with trust, Contentment and better sex....wetin man dey find again.

Mariage is an agreement between a man and a woman, meaning the agreement ought to define the love between the couple — it is not meant to be left blank as most people do.

2. You actually think love is only for oyinbos?

3. We don dey see the value of the weight wey those things carry naw... na the result we dey see for today so.