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PoliticsRe: Jonathan Offered Sng Delegation $50,000 Bribe - Sahara Reporters by koruji(op): 1:41am On Dec 01, 2010
He he he. I think the story was more satire than a real news piece.  grin

There are more stories on that site that will quickly show they are a bunch of comedians:

IBB to dress up as Father Christmas
[url=http://www.wazobiareport.com/default.aspx/Release-Abdulmutallab-to-us,-says-Association-of-US-visa-applicants.]Release Abdulmutallab to us, says Association of US visa applicants.[/url]



Kobojunkie:
I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone, even a government would pretend this even makes sense. . . . Nigerians and delusions of grandeur. How this one take enter memo wey reach wikileaks in 2 minutes? O ga oo!! ROFLMAO!
PoliticsRe: Oppositon Now Talking Tough by koruji(m): 5:49am On Nov 29, 2010
Blazay:
Hmm.
Let me go and register another name like ALL of you, and go under cover. grin
I will be back soon. wink
He he he - can you tell us which username that is when you come back huh huh huh
PoliticsRe: Atiku: Igbo Leaders Confused Over Jonathan by koruji(m): 5:12am On Nov 29, 2010
You are kind of tying yourself up in a knot. How is GEJ turning more states over to ACN? PDP rigged the election, and justice is being finally served. Not interferring with justice is what GEJ should do and is doing. It is exactly because your calculations are based on short-cuts that you keep missing the train, since you don't really know what is between here and there.

You think Atiku winning the election would be better than GEJ winning it. Let me tell you - either way they are going to go for 8 years, the same with Buhari & Ribadu, and IBB if he were candidate (which he is still trying to find a way to be).

You have to take your stand on the basis of unchangeable concerns - well-being of your people. Perhaps producing a Nigerian president is the definition of your people's well-being, in which case you are onto something the rest of the country that has produced the presidents are not aware of.

All we have to do in Nigeria is to promote a vigorous campaign that allows each individual as they enter the voting booth in 2011 to choose the best candidate. All these attempts to win before the election, not based on manifestoes and plans, are a disservice and will not end well.

Months ago it seemed to me that the best approach for the SE was to present its own most qualified candidate - it is getting late in the day at this point. Instead the governors issued a public statement that the SE will stay out of the contest for 2011. I pity the SE because there are a 1001 scenarios under any of the candidates in which SE presidency in 2015 will be a non-issue. The one I pray for is where we elect someone in 2011 so good that even the SE would say take a second term! The only compelling basis for a president from any region is that he is the best candidate.

KenGali:
Politics is a game that should never be played with too much definitness. The SE is being too definite
I have no problem with the Ohaneze's declaration for GEj, infact I like the fact that SE Politician are evenly split off the two sides. The important thing i their ability to act in unison when it matters most(vote casting). It means we can always go with whomever we wish.
But we all know that PDP primaries is the most important thing in Nigerian politics. For that, it is our Governors that hold our aces. They have the onerous task of deciding which direction our we should be heading and making it effective by acting as a block.

While I must say that the emmergence of Atiku is significant and can be a game changer, I am weary of the following:
1. The North winning this election will re-inforce their sense of being indomitable but is the only true sure way of giving the east a shot at the presidency.

2. GEJ winning this election makes OBJ more powerful than I would really like. OBJ habour a strong anti east sentiment that I would never wish to allow flourish.

3. I am weary of the cross and burn the bridge mentallity of OBJ's SW base on which GEJ leans too much. If I should follow  their  anticidents, I would say that we should expect to be used and dumped by GEJ. For a while i had the impression that Gej has weaned himself off OBJ, but ome recent events tell me otherwise.

We might also be running the risk of supporting a move that will make the SW too strong in the Nigerian Equation. Our ability to survive the civil war is because of the tripod structure, it is not yet time to allow that fade away.

4. I am also weary of the fact that GEJ is turning over more states to the ACN, this tells me that if he loses the primaries in PDP, he will not hesitate to destroy the party. PDP is more important to the SE than even GEJ himself.  No matter what happens PDP must remain a national party, so we must have a solution  for either the North or GEJ trying to destroy PDP. (If you recall our only link in AC is Ngige, who followed ATIKU to AC to escape OBJ, now ATIKU is back to PDP we will be foolish to allow something that will suddenly turn AC into a National Party, even the mid-west is not running AC but LP)

5. If ATIKU wins  this election, it means the West, North and epecially North East, South South have all had a shot at the presidency, this will allow us make a case for our-selves in the next 8 year while at the same time serving as VP for the period. If Obj does not respect zoning, and is GEJ’s tutor, how can we be assured that GEJ will respect any agreements or promises, OBJ never did. We cannot give up our shot at the presidency and also loose the reintegration of the former east that we have been loooking foreward to.

From sentiments GEJ is the man, from Logic and reality ATIKU should be the man. OBJ spoils GEJ’s game full time Ekwueme understands this.  Those with the aces should take into account privy info and decide where we pitch our tents
PoliticsSpate Of Kidnapping Is Youth Revolution - Gov. Ohakim Of Imo State by koruji(op): 4:35am On Nov 29, 2010
Another governor that needs to be given the boot. He was the one that signed an MOU to build nuclear power plants in Imo State to the tune of 100 MW - WITH a tiny export and a law firm. But I digress.

I just heard the guy on Nigerian Web-Radio news review saying that the spate of kidnapping is youth revolution, whether we like it or not. He did say it must be addressed - but that is obvious isn't it.

How kidnapping is a revolution is what I don't understand. Anybody up to this new theory?
PoliticsRe: Our Economy In Danger -cbn Gov - Warns Fg To Reduce Expenditure On N/assembly by koruji(op): 2:15am On Nov 29, 2010
Both Soludo & Sanusi have genuine concerns about the economy.

In Soludo's case the same economy was collapsing under him but he refused to acknowledge that the banks were not doing well. A lot of people lampooned his banking reforms as responsible for the collapse, which is untrue. The collapse resulted from the global recession which led to a massive capital flight out of the Nigerian financial system, but that was just the symptom. The real underlying problem were the bank directors who put bank funds into quick cash schemes and personal businesses. There is only so much the CBN could do as long as they were making healthy profits and keeping to the minimum requirements of the CBN. Soludo's main problem was an unwillingness, perhaps because he was being blamed, to acknowledge there was a problem. However, the same Soludo was quick to raise alarm based on potential political jobs, while Sanusi was still cleaning up the mess.

In this case, Sanusi not really being alarmist. This is a problem that has being creeping up on us since 1999. It is not only unproductive, but dangerous to put a quarter of all government revenues in the pocket of people whose role in the system is completely consumptive in nature.  The worst part of it is that most of these funds are not really their salaries, but grabbed under various pretenses. Plus, they spend most of that money outside our shores - a double jeopardy. It is just crazy.

Again, this NASS is a curse on democracy. Something must be done about our government's excessive share of national resources at all levels!

ladi02:
Lol the same guy that called Soludo an alarmist!
Sanusi knows power is about to shift, needs to be seen as a progressive
National Assembly are bunch of rascals, we need to make that office unattractive, so we can have serious people there, unlike the clowns we have
Very soon they will say they want to make sure we sing the national anthem right. . . RUBBISH!
PoliticsJonathan Offered Sng Delegation $50,000 Bribe - Sahara Reporters by koruji(op): 1:45am On Nov 29, 2010
President GEJ would really be showing himself to be in the same league as the Atiku & OBJs of this world. I know that "brown" enveloping is very common within Nigeria, but for someone who really wants to fight corruption as one of the points on his agenda this is just plain dumb.

I will wait for a public statement from Pastor Bakare himself, rather than Sahara Reporters claiming to confirm their own story.

Still, this is not looking good - there is some smoke here that might soon turn into fire!

Posted: November 29, 2010 - 00:42
Posted by siteadmin

By SaharaReporters, New York
Fiery Lagos pastor, Tunde Bakare, has confirmed to Saharareporters that President Goodluck Jonathan provided a $50,000 bribe in cash to the Save Nigeria Group delegation that visited him last Monday.

This is contrary to a tepid denial by one of Jonathan's political operative,Tony Uranta. Uranta had claimed on his Facebook page yesterday that Saharareporters misrepresented the crux of the  meeting between the President and the Pastor Bakare-led delegation.

Specifically, Uranta denied that Jonathan discussed his ambition to run for office with the SNG delegation. He also lied that no money was offered to the team and that he conveyed the bribe money back to Jonathan.

Pastor Bakare's revelation further confirms Saharareporters' exclusive report that the minister of the Niger Delta, Godsday Orubebe, on behalf of the President, offered the SNG $50,000 in cash after the group met with Jonathan to review his performance in office.

Speaking exclusively to Saharareporters via telephone on Sunday night from Lagos, Pastor Bakare stated categorically that his team was indeed offered money as it submitted a position paper on why it was opposed to the president's ambition to be re-elected.

He however said the $50,000 was immediately returned to sender through Uranta, shortly after it was presented to the SNG delegation.

The SNG convener said his team felt terribly embarrassed and offended by the orchestrated attempt to buy their support by the President and his hatchet-men.

An obviously angry Pastor Bakare said, "You can quote me, I don't do deals and I don't lie. Tony (Uranta), could be saving his own face. Tony lied that he didn't collect the money from us. There are living witnesses. Orubebe has confirmed to me that the money was returned. Mr. President is aware through Oronto Douglas that we returned his money through Tony."


Speaking further, Pastor Bakare said he went to the meeting with Jonathan accompanied by Yinka Odumakin and others with a written document to explain to Jonathan why the SNG would not support his candidacy.

"We submitted a document regarding the culture of impunity in which, he (Jonathan) continues to swim," he said.

As Saharareporters had exclusively reported, Jonathan met with the Save Nigeria Group to discuss his ambition to run for office after it dawned on him that Abubakar Atiku, the consensus candidate chosen by the so-called Northern Political Elders Forum, was going to be a hard nut to crack.

After Bakare made his presentation and accused Jonathan of having abused the goodwill offered him by Nigerians, the president made available $50,000 to the group, through Orubebe, apparently to buy their loyalty.

By attempting to buy the SNG's support, Jonathan has done the opposite of what he preaches.

Jonathan had in a speech on Saturday urged Nigerians to ignore politicians who seek to win election by offering money to groups and individuals.

The president gave the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do sermon at the 2010 graduation ceremony of the Senior Executive Course 32 of the National Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies (NIPSS) Kuru, in the North-Central State of Plateau where he was represented by his vice, Namadi Sambo.
http://saharareporters.com/news-page/jonathan-offered-sng-delegation-50000-bribe-pastor-tunde-bakare
PoliticsChoice Of Atiku As Consensus For The North Is Joke Of The Year - Yuguda by koruji(op): 12:35am On Nov 29, 2010
Written by Ishola Michael, Bauchi
Monday, 29 November 2010

The choice of former Vice President Atiku Abubakar, as the North’s consensus candidate for the Peoples Democratic Party  (PDP) presidential primaries next year,  has been  described as the joke of the year.

Speaking at the inauguration of the Jonathon\Sambo 2011 Campaign Organization for the North-East zone last weekend, Bauchi State governor, Mallam Isa Yuguda said that “no group of persons or politicians can impose any candidate on the entire North, not in this political era whereby each and every person has his or her choice to make among the aspirants.”

Yuguda, who is the North-East Coordinator of the organisation opined that as far as the North was concerned President Goodluck Jonathan and his Deputy, Alhaji Namadi Sambo remained the acceptable choice for all Nigerians as could be attested to by the way and manner people all over the country were clamouring for them to continue beyond 2011 considering the good things they had been able to do for the country within a short period.

The governor however said that, “Politicians should not allow tribal and religious sentiments to over shadow politics, rather we should redefined our passion in the society and have fear of God in everything we do and have faith in him. “We are in the project for good because we have under taken to do it with honesty, sincerity,” saying that the south south and the north had always been in mutual relationship and now it was the turn of the north to pay back the south south for its age-long support for the North.
http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/14056-2011-choice-of-atiku-as-consensus-candidate-for-the-north-is-joke-of-the-year-yuguda
PoliticsOur Economy In Danger -cbn Gov - Warns Fg To Reduce Expenditure On N/assembly by koruji(op): 12:26am On Nov 29, 2010
I have had occassions to question the CBN Gov. Sanusi in the past, but here he is making more than just sense -

Quote:"Very often you look at the problems of the country and you look at the powerful vested interest that are benefitting from these problems and you think that the problems cannot be resolved. Let me tell you one thing; stand up to them, face them, the country belongs to you and we must claim it. And the only way Nigeria will change is if we stop complaining about these people and do something about them.

A country like Ethiopia, which came out of war just yesterday, is growing at 11 per cent annually and by 2012, Ethiopia will be generating 4,000 megawatt of electricity, which is more than what Nigeria is generating today. It is one thing to complain about Nigeria’s problem, the situation is heightened when you see pockets of success around Africa."


Money that should be going to Agriculture, Electricity, Health, etc is being spent on a bunch of "eggheads" whose only concerns in life are to be called "Honorable" & "Senator" and of course to have enough "change" in their pockets to do as they wish.

These people are earning more than their American counterpants in an economy that is 100 times smaller - 25% of government revenue. This cannot continue for too long - we need cheaper ways of administering a democracy!

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Written by Our Reporters
Monday, 29 November 2010

THE governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Mallam Lamido Sanusi, has warned that the nation's economy would not develop if the Federal Government does not reduce cuts in its expenditure.

Mallam Sanusi said it was not good enough that 25 per cent of the federal spending was being consumed by the National Assembly instead of using it to bring real development to the country, adding that Nigeria needed to focus on policies that would bring real development to the country.

“If you look at the budget, the bulk of government spending is revenue; revenue expenditure.

That is a big problem; 25 per cent of overhead of Federal Government goes to the National Assembly. We need power, we need infrastructure, so we need to start looking at the structure of expenditure and make it more consistent with the development initiative of the country,” he stressed.

Speaking at the eighth convocation ceremony of Igbinedion University Okada, Edo State, on the topic: Growth prospects for the Nigerian economy, at the weekend, the CBN governor  said Nigeria’s greatest problem was the importation of what it produced and exportation of what it did not produce.

“The solution to Nigeria’s problem is not in the interest  of a very few group of people who have held the country to ransom. The answer lies in every Nigerian simply standing up to this group that enough is enough.

“Very often you look at the problems of the country and you look at the powerful vested interest that are benefitting from these problems and you think that the problems cannot be resolved. Let me tell you one thing; stand up to them, face them, the country belongs to you and we must claim it. And the only way Nigeria will change is if we stop complaining about these people and do something about them.

“A country like Ethiopia, which came out of war just yesterday, is growing at 11 per cent annually and by 2012, Ethiopia will be generating 4,000 megawatt of electricity, which is more than what Nigeria is generating today. It is one thing to complain about Nigeria’s problem, the situation is heightened when you see pockets of success around Africa.

“In 10 years, if we do not adopt the right policies, the Ghanaian economy could overtake our economy on per capita basis. Look at Angola, we helped Angola solve a civil war and today, Angola is exporting more oil than us and Angola has gone further on diversification. There is a big problem and the problem is a policy problem, so the answer is the pursuit of the right policies in the short to medium terms.

“The military government of General Sani Abacha conducted a free and fair election in Liberia, we exported democracy and we have not been able to conduct one in this country and anytime there are elections in African countries, Nigerian former leaders will go there as election observers and these were the very people that could not conduct election in their own country.

“Nigeria could get it right and achieve its vision 20:2020 if the balance of trade is persistently positive, as it has been in the last five years,” Sanusi stated.

He said “if the banking sector reforms and efforts to resolve liquidity challenges are sustained to channel credit massively to the real sector of the economy and if the government sustains the current reforms in the various sectors of the economy, Nigeria will achieve rapid growth and development.”
http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/14061-our-economy-in-danger-cbn-gov-warns-fg-to-reduce-expenditure-on-nassembly
PoliticsRe: What Does Nigeria Stand To Lose If The SW Goes Regional? by koruji(m): 12:09am On Nov 29, 2010
igbobuigbo:
And who am I? Yoruba?
lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: What Does Nigeria Stand To Lose If The SW Goes Regional? by koruji(m): 11:51pm On Nov 28, 2010
Stop lying to yourself. You are not Igbo at all.

igbobuigbo:
Abagworo

How many Igbos denied the existence of zoning? Did Ekwueme and Ojukwu and those Igbos here in NL, who supported the North from the beginning deny zoning? Does Ohaneze speak for all Igbos?

If the North believes that Igbos no longer need zoning, why are they still talking of an Igbo presidency in 2015?
Given the unity in the North and the disunity in the South, the North does not really need zoning because they will always win based on their unity.
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Talks Tough by koruji(m): 6:30pm On Nov 28, 2010
Whether he is able to achieve it or not this is a concrete promise against which people can measure his performance.
I like this.

He promised to provide 20,000 jobs within his first 100 days in office, adding that within the first 150 days, he will turn Osogbo into a commercial hub, where goods would be sold for the same price they are sold in Lagos.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Ibb Bows Out, Declares: ‘we May Rebound’ by koruji(m): 8:12am On Nov 27, 2010
Do your research before making accusations. You get what you give!

krendo:
You can see what you like

This is how you guys accused IBB of being responsible for the new MEND.

Now that propganda has fallen flat. But NO, you guys never learn.

Jonathan is your Christ and can never faulter.
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 8:09am On Nov 27, 2010
The northern oligarchy imposed. Yes. So, where are we with their "national appeal". The answer lies in the fact that they appealed to the selfish politicians, like themselves, in other regions forming a national band of corruption. Awo did not hide anything - he did what he did in his region under open skies, he wrote books to encourage reason, service and good governance.

Heck, the television he set up as the first in Africa is the same one the same "national" politics government hangs on to 50 or so years later. The fact is that they have been unable to replicate what he did 50 years ago, with all the advancement the world has seen since that time. Where are our homegrown cars, jet fighthers, spacecraft or just plain FOOD FOR THE PEOPLE?

Mark my words, the region that achieves strong economic strength is the one that will lead Nigeria at the end of the day. Any region that realizes this needs to start working right away - if the national government follows suit, even better, but if not then such a region must not wait or allow itself to be hoodwinked into fake "national" politics.

Don't you think you are confused by your statement about kinsmen gaining from OBJ's government. Is that how you measure kinsmen gains - by how much was embezzled by them? Nobody is the parent of a thief, you better know that. When people north, west, east, south, etc are going to bed on unfilled bellies you are talking about kinsmen "benefitting" by their corruption.

You are not really interested in a discussion about national unity. Your last sentence shows a certain level of generalization that suggest different viewpoints than you are trying to project. You actually sound like a PDP operative trying to achieve the same objectives of the northern oligarchy in 2011 by attempting to "scare" the SW with the notion that they will not articipate in national politics if they throw out PDP's corrupt governors. That would be the only reason you would return to your very first post on this topic after all that have been discussed.


igbobuigbo:
The north imposed because they are able to muster what looked like a national appeal while Awo hid under his tribal cocoon and zik stayed in between  a tribal cocoon and desire to reach out like the North (read wanting to play both ways). See how ANPP, the truly northern party is fairing? The North knows the game and you cannot blame them for ruling this long. Despite the hatred Yoruba may show for Obj, when he was in power those who gained most from him, unduly I must add, were his kinsmen. That is why most of those under the EFCC searchlight for corruption/irregularities that took place then are from the SW. An igbo president may likely surround himself with igbos too, but we do not know yet since they have not ruled. The north knows how to throw crumbs at Yoruba and Igbo (making themselves appear more national) while having time to master their politics.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Ibb Bows Out, Declares: ‘we May Rebound’ by koruji(m): 7:49am On Nov 27, 2010
Well, do your research and see how I have called out President GEJ on certain things, OK.

When Pastor Bakare comes out to deny any such thing or confirm it then I will take it seriously.

Meanwhile, I only see the hand of Atiku and the voice of IBB's operatives.

krendo:
You speak so much gramma criticising others but have never applied you intelligence in the assessment of Jonathan.

Can you please in clear terms defend Jonathan's 10 months in office, from economics, to anti-corruption, to politics.

Does Jonathan believe in anything.

How is Jonathan not a thief? The latest gist is that he deployed Orubebe to bribe Pastor Bakare with $50k.

Shame on your selective critical analysis. Speak honestly of Jonathan for once lets see.
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 7:44am On Nov 27, 2010
That is why we need a vigorous campaign taking each candidate to task on their promises, views and agenda. Besides, I believe you are being mischievious. The statement Ribadu made was actually an ill-fated attempt to point out a sad truth about Nigerian politics - he actually used the word "Sadly" in the two sentences you are refering to. At this point, I believe that Ribadu has no such bigotry in him, but then that is why we need a vigorous campaign and debate among the candidates.

All a president has to do is champion true national interests - then the true regional interests would fall in place. Again, what has been called national interests so far is nothing more that the selfish interests of oligarchic colluders - with their only one interest being to hold on to power & the free diversion of our resources.

igbobuigbo:
Ribadu recently proclaimed that Jonathan will not win the election, not because of PDP, but because he comes from a minority tribe. That tells you that he is not different from the north that you guys castigate, yet he is the one you expect the champion a SW agenda?
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 7:37am On Nov 27, 2010
igbobuigbo:
You see the north as the only corrupt and domineering ones, right? Yet Ribadu is a northerner. Sounds ironical
You are revealing certain biases now. It is undeniable that the northern oligarchy has imposed on Nigeria for much of its existence (note the difference between "the northern oligarchy" and "the north" - the people of the north have been victims of this selfish politicians like the people of the SW have been victims of OBJ & his cohort). As for corruption, I just stated in a couple of replies ago that OBJ's rigged-in governors were rotten - I was talking about the SW governors.

Ribadu is fighting the "northern oligarchy" at this point and that is why his would be a unifying presidency, if he wins & follows through.
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 7:29am On Nov 27, 2010
The regions don't necessarily have to have regional parties, but whoever gets elected must be the free & fair wishes of the people, who have the right to shift parties if better candidates are on offer.

Take the example of the U.S. - it is well-known that the Southern U.S. is dominated by the Republicans, but in reality many of these states play staggered politics. They generally allow each party to take turns at governing the state as long as the candidate presented is good for the job. For one, it discourages parties from getting complacent. Second, the problems a nation faces require different approaches at different times making a Republican suitable at certain times & Democrats suitable at other times.

igbobuigbo:
Therefore the SW has no regional party and it is a wasteful exercise canvassing a SW agenda since Ribadu, the party's candidate, is a northerner and one that Tinubu is not sure of manipulating. In any case Ribadu/ACN cannot win the election next year.
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 7:22am On Nov 27, 2010
What do you mean by SW agenda kaput? What SW agenda? This is the SW agenda - Security of life and property, all the freedoms stated in the constitution, education, equality under the law, etc. Otherwise, I have no idea why if Ribadu wins SW interests would be compromised.

Truly unifying national politics will incorporate the interests of all regions. It is when corrupt & selfish politicians dominate a region and manage to impose it on the rest of us in the name of "national" politics that we are all losers for it. A strong Nigeria is going to depend on strong regions.


igbobuigbo:
Well if ACN comes to Rivers and other non-yoruba areas, it is no longer a regional party and will hence not be in any position to pursue  any regional agenda. If it takes over the fed govt, it means the Yoruba of ACN are no longer playing regional politics as ObJ wants. They have to remain regional  or they are as good as PDP, a federal party. An ACN under Tinubu as president with another SWner as VP is doomed because no Igbo or hausa will look at them more than once. If Ribadu becomes the president under ACN, it is still the North in charge, SW agenda kaput. Looks like the so-called SW agenda is flimsy and all-weather, no?
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 7:13am On Nov 27, 2010
I did mention how OBJ's governors, rigged-in in the name of "national" politics, are corrupt. Still, you cannot compare corruption to setting up a Sharia police or cutting off people's hands. Corruption is an individual act that must be punished and eliminated, but no state has set up a body to promote corruption in direct violation of the constitution.

I am not talking about the freedom to practice a religion, but it must adhere to modern & sensible laws. Maybe Kalu & Gbenga Daniels are herbalists, but I don't see how government funds comes into that. If a state doesn't desire to have such people lead them then we must have free and fair elections that allow the popular wish to be expressed.

Your last line hints at what should happen. The question is why it is not happening? The answer goes to my point that regions are being represented by compromised people, who in the name of "national" politics have sold their region's interests. For example you talk about everybody desires education, but fail to realize that for the first time in the history of Nigeria we have a Boko Haram whose main aim is not only NOT to get western education, but to force others to do the same. What kind of nation do you get when some people only want to go to religious schools - which is their right - and force others to do the same (a no no). And they have taken up arms - arms built on top of western knowledge. We have to say enough at some point, otherwise your neighbourhood would be next. OBJ, afraid of his northern backers, avoided the Sharia issue until those fanatics were ready to stone someone to death - he wasn't playing "national" politics, he was dancing to the tune of his masters.

igbobuigbo:
Everybody desires to be educated but certainly not everyone can get educated, for different reasons

On sharia, do they implement it with fed funds or funds allocated to them of which they have a right to use as they deem fit? Just like Kalu and Gbenga Daniel used theres to do juju and force people to swear oaths before appointments.

Thus, are we christians not suffereing from our fellow christians, will all the deception in the Nigerian type of christianity?

Why are the christian governors not suing the sharia states up to the supreme court for interpretation of the constitution on the matter?

Are you saying that aside Obasanjo no election rigging takes place in the SW, even at LGA level?
PoliticsRe: Atiku To Obasanjo: ‘we Too Dey Laugh Ooo!’ by koruji(m): 6:47am On Nov 27, 2010
Of course this is obvious, but Atiku has found a new friend defending his "honor" over here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-557983.0.html#msg7225552

PhysicsQED:
This is coming from somebody who decamped from PDP to ACN and then back to PDP when the conditions were favorable to him. The textbook example of a political prostitut.e.  No values, no positions, no opinions, no political philosophy, just an inexplicable lust for power and attention.
Disgusting.
PoliticsRe: 2011: Ibb Bows Out, Declares: ‘we May Rebound’ by koruji(m): 6:43am On Nov 27, 2010
Self-contradicting doesn't begin to describe you here. The implication, to help you the rest of the way, is that IBB will work for Atiku's defeat - perfect excuse isn't it?

There is no honor among thiefs!

krendo:
IBB is a man of honour, he learnt a lot from his mistakes.
I think what we may rebound means is if Atiku is mistreated within the PDP and rigged out.
Then he IBB may rebound and run under another party.
However if Atiku wins, he will support him all the way.
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 6:39am On Nov 27, 2010
Many things are certainly the same, but the different histories & cultures of Nigeria's ethnic groups imply that we also have areas where our interests differ.

An area of interest to the SW, which should also be of equal interest in the rest of Nigeria, is education. However, Nigeria has not attached the same level of priority to education as Awolowo did. The unitary approach to doing things that followed Awo's pathbreaking era has ensured that despite enduring interest in education in the SW, we are not better-off and may be worse-off than other regions at this point.

National politics cannot be the imposition of a single region's selfish politicians interests. At this point we have certain states implementing Sharia in ways contrary to the constitution - like funding a Sharia police with Federal funds. Similarly, we have a senator of the Federal Republic marrying a 9 year old and saying that he doesn't care about the constitution as long as he is in line with some religious edict. OBJ's attempt to show national credientials led him to rig elections in the SW - you would think someone trying to promote national unity would find good people to work with him. No, almost all the governors were rotten. We haver Yar'adua's men ridiculing then entire nation just because power must remain in their hands. This type of "national" politics does not deserve any region's participation.

igbobuigbo:
Koruji

Pray, tell, what is the SW interest? Is it different from the average Nigerian (national) interest?
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 6:06am On Nov 27, 2010
I agree with the first part of your statement. However, it is my opinion that what they have being calling national politics is nothing more than the imposition of northern oligarchic interest on the rest of us - other regions must represent their own interests at the national level as well.

No region has ever played any "national" politics. Virtual autonomy doesn't mean that you don't get involved in national politics, but each region cannot be represented by those who are not carrying with them the interest of that region in their hearts.

igbobuigbo:
The best will be for the regional parties to hold sway at the state levels while each region must try to play national politics at the federal level. In Nigeria, if you do not ask (play  Abuja politics) you do not get. The SW should know this having played regional politics between 1960 and 1998.
PoliticsRe: Atiku's Campaign Organisation: We Too Dey Laugh Ooooooooooooo! by koruji(m): 4:57am On Nov 27, 2010
NROFLMAO  grin huh huh undecided

Kobojunkie:
As much as I am against these PDP goons, I feel I need to ask what the frell are you yapping about here! So what if he switched parties? Isn't that the same some of you, who are partial to Jonathan Goodluck, have advised that he (Goodluck) consider doing? Have other politicians not left the same ACN in the recent past? What do you mean when you claim that the interest of the Nigerian masses is best protected by ACN, than PDP? On what is this claim based?
He was primary operative of the PDP rigging machinery? Do you have proof of this claim? Cause Last I checked, the man was not even able to rig his way into winning the 2007 election.

By the way, if Obasanjo is a bloody fool, what does that make the current president who sits and dines with the same group from back in 2003 -- many of the same you claim are riggers?
PoliticsRe: Changing Dynamics Of South West Politics by koruji(m): 4:40am On Nov 27, 2010
You guys don't understand what is important. If you are not regionally accepted by your people there is no way you can help forge national unity. Three reasons why:

1. If you don't represent your region's interests then you are going to be forcing other people's interests, couched in national unity talk, down their throat. What they have being calling national unity, to which OBJ sold his soul, all these years was actually domination by the northern oligarchy. There was never any interest in national unity. If it were so, the northern oligarchy would not engage in actions that damage the fabric of national unity more than any other.

2. Power is temporary as OBJ is finding out. Once they are done using you on one end they kick you to the curb, and then your people will take their revenge. The northern oligarchy used OBJ to thwart what the SW desired as resolution of the June 12 imbroglio, and set a zoning trap for their messenger. See where we are today! Today, OBJ is neither trusted in the SW (for good reason) or by the North (they are done with him) - he is fighting back with all he has got - eating crow in the SW & after the way Yar'adua turned on him, he is prepared to damn the oligarchy's wishes!

3. Lastly, I have always said that Nigerian unity would only occur when each region has virtual autonomy. There is no need for seccession. That would be almost impossible. Virtual autonomy comes from electing good people and giving your region a sound, strong economy. The northern oligarchy has imposed its political autonomy on the rest of us over these many years. They fail to realize that the best autonomy is economic - for which good governance is a requirement. I predict that whichever region achieves measurable economic autonomy will eventually rule Nigeria - it won't matter what region. Awolowo was on the path to economic autonomy for the SW, but was cut short because he unfortunately& reluctantly attempted to play "national" politics. Ojukwu made the mistake of declaring complete independence before achieving any form of real autonomy in the SE - under duress I might add - still in spite of a disastrous civil war he is revered in most of the SE because he acted, the wisdom of which may be questioned, on behalf of his people.

Bottom-line: Seek ye first economic autonomy and yours is the kingdom of Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the SW or any other region must stop selling out in the name of non-existent national unity. The SW would rather have good regional leaders (aka Awolowo) than bad national representation (aka OBJ).

Blazay:
Welcome to area fadas and sons politics of the wild, wild west.
Chop, comot make I chop and quench politics.
No election necessary.
Just wait for 4 years, dig up old cases against the incumbents, then rule against them.

Hey, the world is a stage. Play well thy part.
igbobuigbo:
If the regional parties eventually take over the SW, they can as well say bye bye to ruling Nigeria even as a speaker of the house. Only a truly national party can lead a country such as Nigeria and that was what Obj did for the SW, bringing them from the obscurity of regionalism to the limelight of nationalism. Now they are taking themselves back to square one.
PoliticsRe: Atiku's Campaign Organisation: We Too Dey Laugh Ooooooooooooo! by koruji(m): 4:01am On Nov 27, 2010
Atiku is both silly and an stark hypocrite.

Wasn't this the same guy that ran from PDP to AC(N) untill Yar'adua died? How come Atiku did not see that the Nigerian masses interest are best protected by AC(N) rather than PDP. That he left a party that had legitimate cases against the election of the 2007 and rushed back to join the one that perpetrated it is the most political-whorish move in Nigeria ever!

Atiku is completely lacking in integrity! Both OBJ and Atiku are making bloody fools of themselves - Atiku was a primary operative of the PDP rigging machinery and benefited from it for 8 years. Now the man is Saint Atiku - you would think Oyinlola was not elected in the same election of 2003 in which OBJ rigged the entire SW using the PDP machinery.

Mumu dey worry Atiku. OBJ is eating crow in the SW, Atiku will soon eat his national crow.

MetalGong4:
OBJ and GEJ are already losing the 2011 battle!!!
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Aregbesola Declared Governor Of Osun State by koruji(m): 3:51am On Nov 27, 2010
Look, good things don't come wrapped with a mark that says "GOOD". Even if it does or if God himself descended from on high to confirm it many people wouldl still not see it.

Jonathan may be the product of a corrupt party but the man has shown some salient characteristics that project, at least since he took over the presidency, his character as an upstanding person. He has to play politics, yes, but it is obvious that the guy doesn't want anything to do with the bordering-on-criminal manipulations of yesteryears. And he is doing this, as Ribadu did at EFCC, within the constrains of PDP and a rotten national system.

Nigerians can search for angels and miracle-makers all we want, there are none. Ask yourself why all these cases that were suddenly being declared in favor of ACN could not be decided so for 4 years. I 'll tell you my answer - Yar'adua had no guts to shoo away those who wanted him to thwart the people's wishes. You better believe that if GEJ was not being upright all the jubilations in Ekiti & Osun today would not have happened. The man has said it again & again, being president is not a do-or-die affair for him.

This may not be an achievent creditable to GEJ per se, since no government has any business preventing justice from being done in the first place, but when someone displays courage by insisting on doing things right - as he said in his independence day speech - that person deserves kudos.

This may be GEJ's legacy, and if he gets a second term and continues this way Nigeria will experience "some" real change.

9ijaMan:
What a spin, ! GEJ's followers are attempting to claim this victory in Osun state as a an act of benevolence from GEJ. What a shameful act. The same GEJ who spearheaded the rigging of election in Ekiti state which ushered in Oni before it got upturned by the courts just a few weeks ago handing the helm of the state back to the actual winner, Fayemi.  Talking about respect for the rule of law, UMYA also respected court rulings during his short term, at least Oshiomole and Mimiko can both attest to that.

Abdur-Rauf Aregbesola's victory in court today is a victory for the people of Osun state and Nigerians at large. It has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with GEJ being in power. For all I know he could not have done anything to stop it. You may be able to spread lies for decades, but surely the truth will surface one day.

All GEJ's cronies should bury their heads in shame and have their tails in between their legs.
PoliticsRe: Babangida Under Pressure To Quit Pdp by koruji(op): 4:57am On Nov 26, 2010
Why are you worried about votes? Didn't you just imply that whether we vote for him or not IBB is the next president?

It is not about votes - it is about what will happen to him if he attempts to rely on other means than a fair vote to become president! If he can find another party to give him a platform - good for him. All he has to do is submit himself to a free and fair vote, without any hanky-pankys - the latter will land him where he does not want.

But really, IBB has no hope - he even lost the illegal election by the NPLF consisting of just 9 people, and most were known IBB people. That is why even Kanti Bello cannot believe it - they all need to read the writing on the wall.

fstranger:
So what will you do? like your vote counts. . . hmm
PoliticsRe: Babangida Under Pressure To Quit Pdp by koruji(op): 3:57am On Nov 26, 2010
How can he be our next president whether we like it or not! He can still be president - that is of the cockroaches, rats and other vermins where he will find himself if he doesn't put his childs hands in the wrapper!

fstranger:
It is just a matter of time, he is eventually going to defect to ANPP
He is still our next president, whether we like it or not!
PoliticsBabangida Under Pressure To Quit Pdp by koruji(op): 3:42am On Nov 26, 2010
Whether the story below arose out of the imagination of the reporter or not, I have warned that predators do not quit. As such, I am almost sure that IBB is planning other ways to be the one sitting in Aso Rock come May 2011.

He must fail!.

Font size:   Yusuf Alli 26/11/2010 00:17:00

FORMER military President Gen. Ibrahim Babangida is under pressure to run for office next year.

Gen. Babangida’s ambition suffered a major blow on Tuesday, with the adoption of ex-Vice-President Atiku Abubakar as a consensus candidate of the North by the Northern Political Leaders Forum (NPLF). But, Babangida’s associates, friends and supporters are said to be mounting pressure on him to quit the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and run in another party.

It was also learnt that four parties are being considered as alternative platforms but the supporters are insisting on the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) and National Democratic Party (NDP).

Investigation by The Nation showed that most supporters and associates of the ex-President are not happy with the outcome of the NPLF’s search for consensus candidate.

According to findings, at a review meeting of the campaign organisation, it was gathered that most members of Babangida’s think-tank rejected the results of the Consensus Committee.

Apart from analysing the pattern of voting, the Babangida camp suspected a "hi-wire politics and influence" on how Atiku emerged as the candidate.

It was learnt that among the nine members of the team who decided the consensus candidate, at least six have cordial relationship with Babangida for many years.

The strategists of the ex-President believe that "members of the NPLF probably did not vote out of their own volition".

Babangida’s associates, it was learnt, are asking him to come out openly and reject the results that gave Atiku a slim victory.

But there is a brick wall in the agreement reached by Babangida and the three other aspirants to abide by the decision of the NPLF.

A source, who spoke in confidence with our correspondent, said: "Some of the close associates of the ex-President are, however, asking him to defect to another party.

"The concerned associates have also argued that if Babangida drops out of the race now, it may be the eclipse of his political career and history will judge him as taking the people for a ride with his ambition as the case in 2003 and 2007.

"They are already proposing four political parties, especially the ANPP and NDP. When we get to the bridge, we will cross it."

The Director of Media and Publicity of the IBB Campaign Organisation, Mr. Kassim Afegbua, confirmed that Babangida is under pressure to go ahead with his 2011 aspiration.

He said: "Yes, he (ex-President Ibrahim Babangida) is under pressure from all his political associates, friends and followers to jump ship and realise his political ambition.

"But, like an elder statesman that he is, he wants to be a good sportsman."
http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/20021.html
PoliticsRe: I Want Jonathan To Lose PDP Primaries by koruji(m): 3:30am On Nov 26, 2010
And my reply was:
[size=14pt][[/size]Hey Kobojunkie be fair. I never said zoning was not part of PDP constitution - what I have said is that it does not support Atiku & co's interpretation. That is what happens when lazy people take shortcuts rather than think something through - the so-called zoning rule in the PDP constitution is vague (you can't argue about that). I also said I wasn't sure that "zoning" itself was mentioned, but now it is clear it was mentioned.

I hope you are not suggesting that the PDP zoning clause is the same as the one Atiku & co are promoting. I suggested a few conditions, including the present one, in which that clause is completely useless. Atiku likes to spend money on lawyers and he will take it to the courts - but the ultimate result would be that the PDP zoning law does not support his assertions.

I have no clue what U mean by your last sentence- care to explain?[size=14pt]][/size]

I think the above is a clear enough reply. The zoning clause is vague because it doesn't address how and when zoning should be done. Look at some of the situations I listed again and tell me if you can make out how the zoning clause addresses these. If you can't then this argument is concluded.

[size=14pt][[/size]What happens if, as in the case of Yar'adua, the current zone representative dies in office? It says nothing about what regional classifications are to be used. It basically specifies nothing on how the zoning ought to be implemented. Can you tell me this? If the PDP zoned the office to the North in 2011 (let's assume), and that candidate goes on to loose in the general elections, what then? Would PDP still be under obligation to zone it to the North for the next election?[size=14pt]][/size]

Kobojunkie:
Section 7.2
(c) In pursuance of the principle of equity, justice and fairness, the party shall adhere to the policy of rotation and zoning of party and public elective offices and it shall be enforced by the appropriate executive committee at all levels.
http://www.peoplesdemocraticparty.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=34&Itemid=37

You consider the above to be vague? Even when we know Zoning does not have multiple meanings? Why, again, am I not surprised?
PoliticsRe: I Want Jonathan To Lose PDP Primaries by koruji(m): 2:39am On Nov 26, 2010
Hey Kobojunkie be fair. I never said zoning was not part of PDP constitution - what I have said is that it does not support Atiku & co's interpretation. That is what happens when lazy people take shortcuts rather than think something through - the so-called zoning rule in the PDP constitution is vague (you can't argue about that). I also said I wasn't sure that "zoning" itself was mentioned, but now it is clear it was mentioned.

I hope you are not suggesting that the PDP zoning clause is the same as the one Atiku & co is promoting. I suggested a few conditions, including the present one, in which that clause is completely useless. Atiku likes to spend money on lawyers and he will take it to the courts - but the ultimate result would be that the PDP zoning law does not support his assertions.

I have no clue what U mean by your last sentence- care to explain?

Kobojunkie:
Even after you have been shown that it is right in the Constitution(Federal Character) and in the PDP Constitution(Zoning) you still choose to continue denying it's existence or that it's application is constitutional? Why am I not surprised?

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