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tctrills:
In all your timeline, zero Palestine control of the land.
Again the British having a local admin is not the same as Jordan colonizing the west bank. Stop confusing yourselves. It was the British that colonized not your local admin.Do you get it?

THE PALESTINIANS WERE JUDAEANS. THEY HAD 400YRS OF UNINTERRUPTED SELF RULE. CHECK THE TIMELINE AGAIN. JORDAN COLONIZED THE WESTBANK AFTER THE BRITISH. WHY NOT GOOGLE THIS? INSTEAD OF TALKING OPT?

tctrills:
As usual you speak without facts.
I brought up the Jews kicked out of Arab countries to show you why Israel must never agree to the UN resolution so it's in line with the topic. That resolution is stupid and we both know it's non binding so why should Israel agree to it?
Still you refuse to answer the question. When did Jordan colonize the west bank? We both know the answer, 1948.

IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO READ MAPS, JUST SAY SO. DEN I WILL KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN BETTER TO YOU. I HAVE GIVEN YOU TWO MAPS, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH IF YOU SMART.
2. THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL MAKES NO RESOLUTION ON INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF NATIONS. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR TO YOU. THIS ISSUE IS NOT INTERNAL AFFAIR BETWEEN ISRAEL AND PALESTINIANS. AND ISRAEL CANNOT CAPITALIZE ON THAT TO ROB PALESTINIANS OF THEIR LAND. IF ISRAEL REALLY CARES ABOUT JEWS DISPOSSESSED BY ARABS, WHY THEN DOES ISRAEL WANT TO NOMALIZE RELATIONS WITH ARABS? WHY IS ISRAEL TRADING WITH ARABS? WHAT MEASURES HAS ISRAEL TAKEN AGAINST THE ARABS WHO DISPOSSESSED JEWS? HOW DOES ALL THAT CONCERN THE PALESTINIANS? IS THE PALESTINAINS ARAB?
SO KEEP UP UR IGNORANCE THAT NO UN RESOLUTION IS BINDING ON ISRAEL. I LOVE THAT ENERGY. YOU AND ISRAEL HAVE SURPRISES AWAITING YOU AROUND THE CORNER

tctrills:
Another fake map.
Please when did Jordan colonize the west bank?
What year was that and under the leadership of who.
You claim your map is 2600 years, hope you know that 5hat was when the Jews had a nation

THIS IS TIMELINE FROM WILKIPEDIA. YOU PEOPLE THINK PALESTINE HAD NO LOCAL ADMIN UNDER THE BRITISH. U ARE VERY MISTAKEN. THE HEADQUATERS WAS IN JORDAN. AS SOON AS THE BRITISH LEFT, JORDAN RULED THE WESTBANK. AS A COLONIAL POWER

tctrills:
Oga we read different history books. In my history books, Jordan became independent only in 1946. So which year did they colonize the west bank.
On your second point, you mean there shouldn't be UN resolution against ethnic cleansing right? So groups like the Uyghurs in China have no hope. You see why both of us can never agree. And you are against the UN resolution against Iraqi treatment of the Kurds. Interesting. Since you compare it to the ill treatment of a citizen by the Nigerian gov.

1. WHO IS JORDAN? THATS WHERE YOU SHOULD BEGIN FROM. THE COUNTRY WHAT CUT OUT OF PALESTINE BY THE BRITISH. THE GRAND MUFTI OF JERUSALEM WAS IN JORDAN, APPOINTED BY THE BRITISH, RULLING OVER THE AFFAIRS OF PALESTINE. TILL TODAY, JORDAN STILL PLAY SOME ADMIN ROLE OVER WESTBANK. YOU SEE THE TIMELINE OF ALL THE RULERS OF PALESTINE BELOW, U WILL FIND JORDAN AMONG THEM.
2. YOU ARE THE ONE JUMPING TOPICS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PALESTINE, YOU JUMPED INTO TALKING ABOUT DISPOSSESSED JEWS IN ARAB COUNTRIES. AND ASKING FOR A UN RESOLUTION AGAINST DISPOSSESSION. I THINK YOU SHOULD CREATE ANOTHER THREAD TO ADDRESS THAT. ITS BETTER U STICK TO THE TOPIC IN THIS THREAD

tctrills:
These maps you show do not make sense and I will tell you why.
1. Before 1948, the land belonged to the British empire and before then, it belonged to the ottoman empire.
2. All through the time of the ottoman and British, Arabs came to the land mostly from Egypt. But also Jews came to the land. There were Jewish towns even in the 1800s.
3. Prior to 1948, neither the Ottoman or British
Divided the land among the various groups living there so who decided that was the map.
4. By 1947, the land was already 30% Jewish.
So your maps before 1948 is just Palestine propaganda.
5. The land was divided by the UN. Israel wanted it all just like the Palestinians but Israel agreed to the UN resolution. Palestine took a gamble, joint forces with the Arab world and went to war to claim the entire land.
Now they lost their gamble, why should any land be given back to them?

. 1. BEFORE 1948, THE LAND DID NOT BELONG TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE. THEY WERE MERELY THE COLONIAL POWER ADMINISTERING THE LAND. THAT HAS NEVER CONFER OWNERSHIP ON THE COLONIALIST. BRITAIN NEVER OWNED NIGERIA AT ANY TIME.
2. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO COMES IN AND OUT OF A LAND. IMMIGRATION HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS WHO WERE THE BRITISH AND OTTOMAN RULLING OVER IN THE LAND? WHO DID THEY MEET IN THE LAND? WHO WERE THE INDEGENOUS PEOPLES OF THE LAND? OR WAS THE BRITISH AND OTTOMAN RULLING OVER THEMSELVES BY THEMSELVES?
3. THE OTTOMAN AND BRITISH MEET THE JUDAEANS OR PALESTINIANS ON THE LAND. THESE PEOPLE WERE THE INDEGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE LAND. THERE WERE NO JEWS IN THE LAND. UNTIL THE 1930S. JEWS ARE EUROPEANS, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EUROPEANS. THE NAME DID NOT ENTER THE BIBLE UNTIL THE 19TH CENTURY. FIRST KJV OF 1611 HAD NO JEW INSIDE IT. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING
4. THE BRISTISH FACILITATED THE IMPORTATION OF JEWS INTO PALESTINE AND HELPED THE JEWS TO DEFEAT THE ARAB COLONIALISTS
5. THE UN IS AMERIACA AND BRITAIN AND FRANCE. THEY GAVE ANOTHER MANS LAND TO THE JEWS AND EXPECTED NO CONCEQUENCES. THE UN IS A FOOL. THE PALESTINIANS TOOK NO SIDE. THE ARAB AND THE JEW ARE THE SAME PLAGUE. NO MUCH DIFFERENCE TILL THIS DAY.

THIS IS THE MAP OF THE HASMONAEN, WHEN PALESTINIANS LIBERATED THEIR LANDS FROM GREEKS AND HAD THEIR AUTONOMOUS KINGDOM 2600 YEARS AGO

tctrills:
Since you don't like facts, both of us will just keep talking over each other
But then, how come there is no UN resolution for the return of lands taking from Jews in almost all Arab countries between 1948 and the 1950s.
Also, do yourself some good to read about the war in 1948.
Jordan captured some land from Israel that because part of the west bank. Israel reclaimed all after 1967.

1. JORDAN WAS A COLONIA POWER IN THE WEST BANK BEFORE 1948. THE TRUTH IS ISRAEL LOST 1948 WAR TO JORDAN. AS THEY COULD NOT TAKE THE WEST BANK FROM THEM. THATS WHAT HAPPENED.
2.WHY NO UN RESOLUTIONS AGAINST ARABS WHO DISPOSSESSED THEIR JEWISH POPULATION? IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN? WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT? ASK IT LIKE DIS, WHY NO UN RESOLUTION AGAINST NIGERIA FOR DISPOSSESSING LATE ANTHONY ENAHORO OF HIS PROPERTY IN ANTHONY VILLAGE LAGOS? WHAT DO YOU THINK UN RESOLUTION IS?

tctrills:
Everything you stated here is false and we have already discussed a few of them so no need to waste my time but I will address your lady point.
Every land was acquired by war. Now talking about the UN charter, why did it not stop the Arabs from fighting Israel in 1948. The only purpose of the war was to occupy land. Do you also know that in that same war, Israel lost some of it's land to Jordan so what's your point here?

YOU DOUBLE DOWN ON YET MORE LIES
1. EVERY LAND WAS ACQUIRED BY WAR? SO? THE UN WAS CREATED TO MODERATE THE RULES OF WAR. LAND CANNOLONGER BE ACQUIRED BY WAR.
2. WHY DID THE UN NOT STOP THE ARABS FROM GOING TO WAR? NO RULES SAY NATIONS CANNOT WAR BETWEEN THEMSELVES
3. THE ONLY PURPOSE OF THE WAR WAS TO OCCUPY THE LAND? THE ARABS DID NOT WANT THE BRITISH TO RELOCATE EUROPEANS INTO THEIR REGION. JUST LIKE THEY DID IN AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA, ZIMBABWE, ETC. THATS THE REASON FOR THE WAR.
4. ISRAEL LOST SOME ITS LANDS TO JORDAN? IN WHICH OF THE WARS? ACTUALLY YOU ARE ONLY JUST GUESSING. YOU HAVE NO CLUE. SUMMARY IS THAT, ISRAEL NEVER HAD ANY LAND IN THE PLACE AT ALL TO BEGIN WITH.

whiticle:
How would you say.that ... Pay people to murder, rape your own people then go after them... Pretend not to know anything about it when the whole Arab congratulate Hamas for their stupidity... I guess the plan was also take us as hostages then use us to get your people back from prison.... Are you making sense to your self

thegrayzonenews: In a new report, an admittedly inexperienced Israeli tank gunner reveals orders to fire indiscriminately into lsraeli kibbutz. Meanwhile, Israel has muzzled captives freed from Gaza to protect the faltering official narrative of its war.

tctrills:
I think we are getting this all wrong. The case for Israel is not that complicated. Both the Jews and the people in Palestine claimed the land as their ancestral home. The UN divided it but the Arabs refused because they wanted it all and went to war. They ended up losing all the land. That's how simple it is.
I don't think Israel should give them even an inch of the land. But it's not my decision to make.

YOUR STATEMENTS ARE RIDDLED WITH NUMEROUS LIES.
1. THE JEWS HAVE NEVER CLAIMED THE LAND IS THEIR ANSCESTRAL HOME. IT YOU PEOPLE DELUDED BY THE LIES OF THE BIBLE WHO JUST CANT SEE YOU ARE BEING FOOLED BY THE EUROPEANS
2. THE PALESTINIANS ARE NOT ARABS AND NEVER WENT TO WAR WITH THE ZIONIST SWINES. THE ARABS WERE THE COLONIAL MASTERS OF THE PLACE AND IT WAS A QURREL BETWEEN COLONIAL MASTERS. ONE A JEWISH SWINE, THE OTHER THE ARAB SWINE. HOW IS THAT PALESTINIAN CONCERN? THE TWO OF THEM SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN LOST FROM THE LAND ALREADY
3. NO LAND CAN BE ACQUIRED BY WAR UNDER ALL THE RELEVANT UN CHARTERS. ISRAEL IS ONLY JUST KEEPING THE LANDS WARM. IT IS NOT THE OWNERS OF THEM

Elusive001:
No country will WIPE OFF Israel. After Hitler what has become of the Jews? They have become stronger and have their own nation. Israel belongs to GOD Almighty. Let this sink in.

The only person that will deal with them a bit is the anti-christ. I the future, Russia, Iran and some other countries will join forces to fight Israel, but they will meet their Waterloo courtesy of GOD Almighty.

Mark the above down.

IT WAS NOT YOUR GOD WHO SAVED JEWS FROM HITLER, IT WAS RUSSIA WHO LIBERATED AUSCHWITZ AND FREED THE JEWS FROM THEIR PIG STYR. IN RUSSIA, JEWS HAVE A COUNTRY OR AUTONOMOUS REGION OR OBLAST OF THEIR OWN CALLED BIROBIDZHAN INSIDE THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION SINCE 1928

Elusive001:
Bless you immeasurably more for bringing up this message wherein lies the salvation of any man. It is the only way of salvation from the eternal doom that is to come.

JESUS MEANS ZEUS. HE IS A FAKE PERSONALITY. GIVING YOUR LIFE TO JESUS, IS A PHRASE INVENTED DURING THE SLAVE TRADE. SLAVES WERE MANDATED TO GIVE THEIR LIFE TO JESUS, BEFORE THEY COULD BOARD THE SLAVE SHIPS. THOSE WHO REFUSED WERE MURDERED INSTANTLY. THOSE WHO ACCEPTED JESUS, SIGNED AWAY THEIR LIFE AND LIBERTY TO THE SLAVEMASTERS BY SO DOING. IDIOTS!

Opintiwa:
Israel will never fall

Let that sink in ma dude

HOW MANY TIMES IN HISTORY HAS ISRAEL FAILED? INFACT BRITAIN DID NOT JUST GIVE ISRAEL THE ENTIRE HASMONAEN LANDS. THEY FIRST SPLIT IT TO CREATE A FAKE COUNTRY CALLED JORDAN AND THEN GAVE ISRAEL THE LEFT OVER. A USELESS NAME CALLED ISRAEL THAT HAS FAILED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND WILL SOON FAIL AGAIN SOONEST. YET ONE MUMU NLDER IS SAYING IT CANNOT FAIL. SHOW ME ONE SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT OF ISRAEL OVER THE LAST 1000 YRS, IF IT IS ANY GREAT ENTITY. SLAVERY UPON SLAVERY, CAPTIVITY UPON CAPTIVITY. WITH A STUPID gOD SO JEALOUS AND TOXIC, ALWAYS GIVING THEM UP TO THEIR ENEMY. MUMU DEITY. NO WONDER THE DEITY WAS DITCHED IN THE AREA

Kingson28:
Where was the land of King David and Jesus Christ?
Did Britain also give your ancestors the land you now claim as your ancestral land, since the British gave you Nigeria?

FOOLISH COMMENT.
JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH KING DAVID OR JESUS CHRIST. JEWS ARE FROM EUROPE, THEY ARE NEVER FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF JEW IN THE FIRST BIBLE KJV OF 1611. INFACT JEW WAS ONLY INTRODUCED INTO THE BIBLE IN THE 19TH CENTURY, TO CONFUSE MUMU PEOPLE LIKE YOU. TODAY NOW, YOU THINK KING DAVID AND JESUS ARE JEW? SO THE BRITISH FOOLED YOU AGAIN

TWoods:
So arabs are the owners of lands that have been bearing hebrew names for 3000 years?

THE QUESTION YOU SHOULD BE ASKING IS THAT HOW COME THE NAMES OF THOSED LANDS REMAIN UNCHANGED FOR 3000 YRS BEFORE THESE STUPID ZIONISTS SETTLER JEWS CAME INTO THE PLACE IN 1948? THE SIMPLE ANSWER WILL THEN BE, THAT THOSE WHO YOU FOOLISHLY CALL ARABS, ARE ACTUALLY HEBREW, WHO MAINTAINED THE NAMES OF THEIR BIRTHPLACE EVEN THOUGH THEY CHANGED THEIR RELIGION TO ISLAM

[quote author=Kingson28 post=128616002][/quote] THE BRITISH GAVE THEM ANOTHER MANS LAND NOT GOD. EXECPT GOD IS THE BRITISH

tctrills:
Your device is obviously faulty. Please open the link with a better device

Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون, al-Filasṭīniyyūn; Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים, Fālasṭīnīm) or Palestinian people (الشعب الفلسطيني, ash-sha‘b al-Filasṭīnī), also referred to as Palestinian Arabs (العرب الفلسطينيون, al-ʿArab al-Filasṭīniyyūn), are an ethnonational group[30][31][32][33][34][35][36] descending from peoples who have inhabited the region of Palestine over the millennia, and who are today culturally and linguistically Arab.[37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45]

YOU ARE THE ONE WHOS INTELLIGENCE IS QUESTIONABLE. THE LINK IS CLEAR ENOUGH. PALESTINIANS ARE NOT GENETICALLY ARABS.
THEY ARE CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTICALLY SO. IN NIGERIA I KNOW A FEW NIGERIANS WHO ARE CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTICALLY BRITISH.
THEY MUST BE NIGERIAN BRITISH

tctrills:
This answers the question if Palestinians are Arabs and it's from your friend Google. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

YOUR LINK SAY PALESTINIANS
who are today culturally and linguistically arabs
IN NIGERIA THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTICALLY ARABS. SO NIGERIANS ARE ARABS AS WELL

tctrills:
Oga, I can't convince you of the truthfulness of my sources so maintain your sources and I will maintain mine. You only see what your heart wants to see.

VERY WELL. THE FRENCH WERE WINNING THE WAR IN INDOCHINA IN THE NEWS, UNTIL THEY LOST ON THE GROUND. THE AMERICANS WERE WINNING AFGHAN WAR ON CNN, UNTIL THEY LOST IN ACTUALITY. ISRAEL CAN BE WINNING IN ALL YOUR LYING SOURCES FOR NOW, UNTIL THEY ARE ACTUALLY DISGRACED. THANKS AND BYE

tctrills:
Palestinians are not Arabs ? Lool very funny. Don't let hamas hear you saying this. They will cut off something from your body?

IF HAMAS IS ARAB, THEN YOU ARE BRITISH. THAT ARABS COLONIZED THEM IS NOT ENOUGH TO CALL THEM ARABS. GOOGLE ONCE MORE IS YOUR FRIEND. WHO ARE THE ARABS. OFCOURSE THEY ARE THOSE COUNTRIES IN THE GULF OF ARABIA. THEY ARE THE ARABS

tctrills:
We obviously get out news from different sources. It's over 10k Hamas dead including top officers and less than 4oo IDF. But as I state, I don't know your source. You know I am always happy to present evidence but clearly you don't care about having evidence.

OFCOURSE FROM THE LYING IDF. WHAT NEWS FROM IDF EVER ENDED UP BEING CORRECT? THEY SAID SHIFA HOSPITAL WAS HAMAS OPERATIONAL BASE. IT WAS FOUND OUT A LIE. THEY SAID HAMAS TUNNEL WAS UNDER UNRWA BUILDING, IT WAS FOUND OUT AS LIE, THEY SAID 12 UNRWA STAFF ARE MEMBERS OF HAMAS, IT WAS FOUND OUT AS FALSE. THEY SAID HAMAS RAPED AND BEHEADED BABIES OCT7. IT WAS FOUND OUT A LIE. EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS LIE. UNFORTUNATELY, LIES DONT WIN WARS

tctrills:
I don't even understand what you mean here so I can't reply. I don't think Israel has an issue with Nigerian Arabs

. OK, THE WORD PALESTINIAN ARABS, INCASE U DONT KNOW IS FREQUENTLY USED FOR SUPPOSEDLY PALESTINIANS LIVING WITHIN ISRAEL ITSELF. AND ITS HELD UP AS HOW ISRAEL IS SO FAIR AND BENEVOLENT AND ALL THAT NONSENSE. I BELIEVE IT MERE POLITICS. ITS SCAM. PALESTINIANS ARE NOT ARABS. THEY ARE HEBREW. EVEN IF YOU FIND MIXED BLOOD WITHIN THEM, DOES NOT REPRESENT THE WHOLE TRIBE.

tctrills:
Read and learn

THERE IS NOTHING TO LEARN IN YOUR LINK. AND BY THE WAY THE LINK TESTIFYS AGAINST YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU DONT KNOW IT. IT DESCRIBES THE PEOPLE AS LEVANTS, AND GOES ON TO DELINATE THEIR GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDRIES. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHERE THE PALESTINIANS ARE IN TODAY, DISPLACED BY THE USELESS ZIONIST RACISTS. OR DONT YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?

tctrills:
The Palestinians (Arabs) do not even agree with your categorization of them. They claim to be children of Abraham and not Canaanites. So should we believe you or believe them? I rather judge them by what they claim they are and not what you want them to be.

I DONT CARE ABOUT THE PALESTINIAN ARABS. WHAT EVER THEY ARE I DONT EVEN KNOW. THERE ARE NIGERIAN ARABS TOO. I THINK? USMAN DAN FODIO LINAGE. SO I DONT SEE HOW ALL YOUR LIES CHANGE ANYTHING

tctrills:
Feelings don't win wars

CONTINUE TO LIVE IN DECIET. AFTER 130 DAYS OF WAR, A RAG TAG ARMY OF HAMAS IS MASSIVELY SLAUGHTERING YOUR LYING IDF
WIN IF YOU CAN

MEANWHILE, BRITAIN CANNOT EVEN MANAGE A LAUNCH OF MISSLE WITH SOME FEW PITIABLE PAYLOADS?
The government is facing questions over the effectiveness of Britain's nuclear deterrent after a test launch of the UK's Trident nuclear missile failed, crashing back into the ocean close to the submarine that fired it.

unclejb2:
How does that reduce the price of dollars in Nigeria?

IT IS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO US IN NIGERIA TO STOP USING THE DOLLAR COMPLETELY. THATS THE ONLY WAY OUT. THE RUSSIAN WAY. NIGERIA SHOULD JOIN BRICS. DONT DIE SLAVING FOR ANOTHER MAN CURRENCY

tctrills:
We have spent half of the day posting and you are yet to present any evidence not even a link yet you must force your personal opinion down my throat.

I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR THROAT. I TELL YOU SOLEMNLY THAT THE CONTENTION CAN ONLY BE RESOLVED ON THE BATTLE FIELD. SO HAMAS IS JUSTLY ACTIVE. AND EVERY JEWISH SWINE WILL BE CLEANSED FROM THE LAND. THIS IS IRREVOCABLE

tctrills:
Let me try to help you with another link that talks about the origin of the Palestinians
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#:~:text=Many%20Palestinian%20villagers%20claim%20ancestral,ancestry%20based%20on%20oral%20traditions[/url].

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU DOING? HOW DOES THIS YOUR LINK HELP US TO RECONCILE PALESTINE WITH PHILISTINE?

tctrills:
I just gave you the origin, you refused to accept. I can't force it into your head. I can give you more links but it wouldn't help you so I can only speak English my brother

NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT THE MATTER, THE JEWS ARE FROM EUROPE. THEY ARE NOT HEBREW. THE PALESTINIANS ARE JUDAEANS AND HAVE LEAVED IN THOSE LANDS OF PALESTINES FOR MORE THAN 2000 YRS UNINTERUPTED BEFORE THESE ZIONIST SETTLERS CAME FROM EUROPE. THATS JUST THE SUMMARY

tctrills:
Please give me useful links sir

BRITANICA IS A RESPECTABLE SOURCE
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine

tctrills:
Since you would refuse anything I give you, I can't help you.
But hope you know that every website is the product of someones opinion or research just like Quora. Please mention one site that does not fall into this category. Also can you explain why Wikipedia is garbage to you?

YOU ARE JUST SPEAKING ENGLISH. WHY CANT YOU CHECK FOR THE ORIGIN OF THE WORD PALESTINE INSTEAD? INFACT THE ARABIC FOR PALESTINE IS STILL FILISTINE TILL TODAY.

tctrills:
You call me ignorant but I am the one guiding you through the friendly world of google. Please take your own advice and use the links I presented. I promise you they are from your beloved friend Google

YOUR LINKS ARE USELESS