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Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 7:03pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Aramaic is never persian. Where did you Get that absurd THRASH from?
No correlation between it ATALL!
Aramaic is one of the earliest languages on earth even before “spain and europe” was created.
Stop disgracing yourself.
grin Who are the people who spoke Aramaic? Don’t they have a name? U say its like Hebrew? Hebrew was spoken by Jews. So who and who spoke Aramaic?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 6:38pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, Where and when did jesus speak “yiddish”?
How is Aramaic a “persian language”?


Krismas Is a Dullard, BYE!
grin The Persian empire spread all the way from Spain ( Tarshish) thruout of middleeast. Babylonians and the Medo-Persians expanded the Persian empire. That’s why Aramaic is spoken in Europe and all over the Middle East. Aramaic is very much Persian as French is France and English is England
Forum Games › Re: Optical Illusions - Find The Hidden Man In The Forest Within 11 Seconds by Krismas(m): 4:16pm On Oct 16, 2022
aboyaji:
Optical Illusions - Find the Hidden Man in the Forest within 11 Seconds
grin

Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 4:05pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate. Keep disgracing yourself cheesy
Dullard bye!
grin Ok I was wrong in thinking Vaticanus was only New Testament. I have always tot so and never chked. Bye all d same. U are not clever or brilliant. Infact u don’t know anything. Thanks all d same
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:59pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Desperate illiterate bwahahahah

Dullard!
grin The simple meaning of that is that Codex Sinaiticus is the oldest script having both the New Testament, some Old Testament and Apocryphal. The Vaticanus is ONLY just New Testament and is the oldest New Testament we have. Mumu grin bye
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:54pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiteracy is bad, which country did he defeat the persian?
Gallilee? Jerusalem?
Guagemela bwahahahah
ARAMAIC Is NEVER a “persian language”.
grin Extremely silly remark! Even the only Aramaic we have in the Bible was the book written in Babylon by Daniel and is just only one chapter! Yet Aramaic is not a Persian language? Ok have it ur way. Thanks and bye
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:50pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, codex sinaiticus is the oldest!
grin Copying and pasting does not make one smart. U are completely a novice grin

Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:40pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
What century did the greeks take over from persians?
You have to be stupid to believe aramaic is a persian language
grin Half education is dangerous grin
Who are the Persians? If not the Iranians and Iraqi? Even as at today, I don’t if anybody is still alive speaking Aramaic! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:28pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, Where are you getting your own thrash from? From your ass?
Sinaiticus codex is 325BCE.

When was yiddish language created?

Dullard!
grin I use google but not as dense as u. The Germans colonized Cameron for 50yrs b4 the French took it over in 1914. Go to Cameron and see if anybody can speak German language! The Greeks took over from the Persians and stayed in the place for 500yrs. U have to be dunce to believe anyone there would be Aramaic the Persian language

Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:16pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, The oldest codex is sinaiticus.
Jesus and his disciples spoke ARAMAIC!
grin Every thrash in google is wot u pasting at me grin As at when Jesus was born the Roman Empire was the colonial power in Palestine, they took over from the Greek empire, who was dominant in the area for 500yrs, after displacing the Persians. How could Aramaic be fashionable ANYWHERE in Palestine wen Jesus was growing up? Even the Romans couldn’t do away with Greek. It had been in the area for 500yrs.
The vaticanus is 400 BCE. How old is the Sanaiticus?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:08pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, what century was yiddish language created?
grin No prove Jesus Ever spoke Aramaic. Where would he have learnt it?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:06pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, The first and original New Testament called codex sinaiticus was written in GREEK. What century was that?
Aramaic is a Semitic language, same way hebrew too.
grin U so dumb!
Wot have u said? I tot u were going to tell me which codex was written in Aramaic? The first Codex and the oldest is Vaticanus for ur info and they all Greek
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:01pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, Jesus spoke ARAMAIC.
New Testament was written in GREEK HUNDRED OF YEARS AFTER JESUS DIED.

Jesus was dead before yiddish language was even created dunce.
grin slowpoke! Which of the New Testament codex were written in Aramaic?
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia-land
Just only chapter 14 of the book of Daniel was Aramaic.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 2:56pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate when was yiddish language created, when was jesus born.
The New Testament was written in GREEK!
grin U are kidding? Is Eloi Eloi Greek? Wot is it? Answer dat. As for Yiddish, it broken Hebrew, it’s wot Jesus spoke.
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia land
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 2:44pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate, The New Testament was written in Greek, jesus and his disciples spoke ARAMAIC.
Daniel is Old Testament written in Hebrew and Aramaic, dunce
The king was looking for the interpretation of the words, the MEANING OF WHAT DOES WORDS MEAN not the exact mere words, dummy.
Read!
grin My guy u are a learner! Listen to urself! The New Testament was written in Greek! So u think Jesus spoke Aramaic? Is Aramaic Hebrew? Jesus spoke Yiddish for ur info. And if Eloi Eloi was Aramaic, that means Aramaic appeared in the New Testament. But am telling u, NO SINGLE ARAMAIC IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. No Hebrew in the New Testament either! So wot language is Eloi Eloi? Greek?
As for Mene Mene, the wise men could not read it ATALL, talkless of making meaning of it. If they cud put the letters together, they would EASILY have lied about the meaning. The reward was too great. Same reason why Nebuchadnezzar refused to tell this same peoples his dreams, cos they will lie about the interpretation. So he asked them to tell him d dream instead! I repeat, IN VAIN IS WORLDLY SCHOLARS TRYING TO MAKE THOSE TONGUES INTO COMMON LANGUAGES. And stop pasting those senseless lies at me.

Mark 15:33-36

33 And when the sixth hour (about midday) had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (about three o'clock).

34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? — which means, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me [deserting Me and leaving Me helpless and abandoned]?

35 And some of those standing by, [and] hearing it, said, See! He is calling Elijah!

36 And one man ran, and, filling a sponge with vinegar (a mixture of sour wine and water), put it on a staff made of a [bamboo-like] reed and gave it to Him to drink, saying, Hold off! Let us see whether Elijah [does] come to take Him down.

Verse 35 WHY SAY HE WAS CALLING FOR ELIJAH? Wot language is Eloi? I tot the people knew the language?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 2:12pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Illiterate just like the typical brainwashed sheep, they are hebrew and aramaic language. Before daniel and jesus was born HEBREW LANGUAGE existed.
The New Testament was written hundred of years after your jesus died.
Eloi is a common aramaic word meaning “my god”, which verse did they think it was “elijah”?
Daniel interpreted it to a meaning not “mene mene”.
The king was looking for who to interpret it to a meaning not the “exact words” dummy!

Where are you getting all these assertions, bring up the verse.
grin Mumu! There is no single Aramaic in the New Testament. How will u know wen u don’t read the Bible? Daniel 5:1-7
7.The king cried aloud [mightily] to bring in the enchanters or soothsayers, the Chaldeans [diviners], and the astrologers. The king said to the wise men of Babylon, Whoever will read this writing and show me the interpretation of it will be clothed with purple and have a chain of gold put about his neck and will be the third ruler in the kingdom.
8 And all the king's wise men came in, but they could not read the writing or make known to the king the interpretation of it.

An Aramaic king cudnt read an Aramaic writing on the wall? His linguists cudnt either, so they had to call a man in whom is the spirit of the gods? U have to explain how suddenly everyone cudnt understand Aramaic in that room
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 1:47pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
Ignorance is not bliss. Which language again do you need the origin?
Have you forgotten that New Testament was written in greek, and jesus spoke aramaic lol
Old Testament was written in Hebrew and old Hebrew lol

Hebrew and greek languages are holy spirit language abi bwahahahah
grin Am not atall surprised grin U are as shallow as they come!
Daniel interpreted Mene Mene etc after all the wise men in Babylon had failed to? These wise are picked from all races of the world, just the way Daniel found himself in Babylon. So if Mene was a known language, why Was Daniel called for SPECIALLY? Why did the king promise to reward him specially for cracking an existing language?
When Jesus said Eloi, why did those present think he was calling on Elijah? Is dat they didn’t understand Aramaic? or Yiddish or Greek? Same thing too Tali Takumi and Ephatha. There meaning come only to us via the gift of interpretation of tongues. In vain is all the fake worldly scholars attempting to prove they were all local languages
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 1:07pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:
You speak in tongue to yourself not multitude, of what use is it to the “church”, read the verse slowly, don’t be a narcissist.
Also Look up the topic of the OP.
The disciples were praying without holy spirit lol, that means prayers can get answered without holy spirit.
Hope you know what “ghost” means?
grin B4 these verses u quoting, Jesus had said Ephatha, Talitakunmi, Elo Elo Lamashabahtani. Wot languages were those. Also in the Old Testament there was Mene Mene tekah upharsen. Wot language is dat. The holyspirit can make one speak in KNOWN or UNKNOWN tongues.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 11:24am On Oct 16, 2022
OnknownSoldier:
If you are conversant with the modern-day gospel music industry, you would have noticed a sudden surge of unknown tongues in many gospel songs from gospel artists of mostly black descent. This sudden development in my opinion is worthy of serious interrogation as the Bible says that we should test all spirits so as know which is of God [1 John 4:1].

The gospel songs I knew while growing up emphasized godly living using language(s) that can be understood. The hymns for example are written in plain language(s) and one can attest to the fact that those songs are divinely inspired and spirit-filled. Meanwhile, the present crops of gospel music raving the moment are mostly incorporated with unknown tongues and spiritual chants that can not be understood by anyone and yet we have not found a single interpreter to interpret the tongues in these popular songs. I believe that in itself negates the fundamental injunction stated by Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27.

I have been to megachurches in several regions of Nigeria where I have heard worship leaders repeating the same tongues in these popular gospel records verbatim and I get confused each time. Damn! Something is wrong somewhere. It's almost impossible to hear a gospel record these days without hearing an unknown tongue in it. Could that be the latest marketing strategy to sell gospel records?

Yes! I believe in tongues but I also believe that not all spirit-filled Christians must speak in tongues. Some operate in other gifts like prophecy, Discernment, word of knowledge, words of wisdom, walking of miracles e.t.c [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]. it is the spirit that distributes these gifts but I wonder while the present church places much emphasis on tongues. Well, maybe that's because tongues are the easiest to fake. Maybe I said.

Now to my honest questions:

1. If speaking in tongues only edifies the one who speaks it and not the body of Christ as it is in 1 Corinthians 14:4, why will any gospel musician incorporate an unknown tongue in his or her song lyrics for the body of Christ?

2. Where exactly is it written in the Bible that Christians should sing in tongues? Is there anywhere in the Bible the Apostles did? I know pentecostal christians will mention 1 Corinthians 14:15 but is that what Apostle Paul was really saying in that passage?

3. Why were the ancient gospel songs not incorporated with unknown tongues as we have now? Could it be that modern Christian worship has been hijacked by strange spirits?

Above are my reservations about the sudden proliferation of unknown tongues in modern gospel music. I will appreciate answers with biblical reference(s) to my questions in the comment section.

Thanks!
grin Very quick replies to ur quiz.
1. If the gospel singer does not EDIFY himself, how does he edify another person?
2. 1corinthians 14:15 Exactly wot Paul meant. He sang in tongues
3. The level of spiritual advancement today is higher than in d past.
Thank you
Politics › Re: 2023 Presidential Election: Why Atiku May Win by Krismas(m): 9:35am On Oct 15, 2022
DaddyFabooluz:
From the way things are going, there is no doubt Peter Obi is loved by man and want him to win. But quite unfortunately for him, his party is a light weight in almost all parts of Nigeria and that is a very big disadvantage in the reality of today's politics in Nigeria.

Tinubu on the Apc side has a strong force around Nigeria but his chances are likely to be cut short because of his muslim muslim ticket. This means that votes will be shared between Tinubu, Peter Obi and Atiku in the South, East and West.

As for Atiku, his victory seems to smile because he has the most dominant forces in the North and that alone can clearly defeat the sharing of votes from the entire South, East and West.

Though the election will be very tight because Apc the ruling party will try to use all means in their disposal to rig and win the election, but PDP knows the game very well and will try to lock head with Apc anyhow they can. Unfortunately LP and Peter Obi can only rely on the huge followers called obidients that have his back but in reality, that will only help split the votes in the South, East and West while Atiku will crush all contestants in the North to claim his victory.

This is just my opinion from the way things are now and everyone is very free to have their own different options. So I come and go in PEACE.
grin Here is where ur argument has leak grin U conveniently left out Kwankwaso as a force to challenge Atiku to Northern votes grin
Sports › Re: Perpetual Ogbiyoyo Wins Nigeria Women's Chess Championship 2022 by Krismas(m): 5:23pm On Oct 14, 2022
Parpor:
5. c3
5. Nf6
Sports › Re: Perpetual Ogbiyoyo Wins Nigeria Women's Chess Championship 2022 by Krismas(m): 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2022
Parpor:
4. d4
4. Bd7
Travel › Re: My Life As A 29-Year-Old Nigerian In Accra, Ghana by Krismas(m): 8:57pm On Oct 13, 2022
SUFFERInSMILIIN:
You are making fun of Ghana when Nigeria is in 120 billion US dollar. The Debt repayments is 110 percent of the economy. Nigeria situation is hundred times worse than Ghana but you make fun of Ghana imagine all the pension all the salary and now going to get payment and the government is borrowing money to pay Dead
grin Are u saying the government is already borrowing from people’s pension funds?
Travel › Re: My Life As A 29-Year-Old Nigerian In Accra, Ghana by Krismas(m): 8:46pm On Oct 13, 2022
inoki247:
You people ar not getting if you say Nigeria is worst Ghana isn't an option cause dere worst nobody understand again dere Govt is clueless right now the way dere Dollar dey jump nobody understand again....

Derr fuel also is around 10GHC that's like 700naira to 750..
grin N700/800 shud have been the price of PMS in Nigeria too were it not subsidized. I think we are even. Not better dan Ghana
Travel › Re: My Life As A 29-Year-Old Nigerian In Accra, Ghana by Krismas(m): 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2022
inoki247:
Which Ghana u dey talk the one I know or another one....

Ghana was Exchanging Dollar at 6.5GHC as at Dec right now as at today they're exchanging there dollar at 11.6 GHC which kain Inflation be that....


You people will just come online and be reading about country experience am first u go sing song nobody go tell u....
grin Its like u don’t know 1USD =720 Nigerian Naira?= 11GHC and u are complaining?
Travel › Re: My Life As A 29-Year-Old Nigerian In Accra, Ghana by Krismas(m): 8:16pm On Oct 13, 2022
brandsoncharlie:
My brother they're not doing well, exchange rate is sky rocketing against the USA dollars (11.45 cedis to a dollar covert it to naira)
Food prices highest in Africa as we speak.
Cost of electricity is 130 % increased recently to avoid collapse on their electricity sector.
Taxes for a start up is nothing to right home about, imagine paying for covid 19 tax and other unnecessary tax.

The economy has been downgraded by the international credit agency (FITCH) to CC .
The last thing you don't want to hear is there are on their way to IMF.
The economy is no longer in control by the government.
The worst performing currency in the world behind Zimbabwe.
grin Unbelievable! Why will FITCH down rate dem? Even Nigeria that’s neck deep in debts still has some form of credit worthiness
Travel › Re: My Life As A 29-Year-Old Nigerian In Accra, Ghana by Krismas(m): 8:11pm On Oct 13, 2022
Antimarraige:
cocoa farming in my mom's hometown
grin Oga I like ur story. Hw do I also invest in this ur business?
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Gives His Coat To UAE President To Keep Warm (Photos, Video) by Krismas(m): 2:26pm On Oct 13, 2022
Asour:
America's influences don't need to be looked for.

There are around you daily.

They created the information age.
The Operating systems 99% of the world uses for Mobile & Desktop are American created— Windows, iOS or Android. Including the one you wrote your comment with.

They have the world's most relevant /largest capital market. The next (China isn't up to one-third).

They have all the World's most popular social mediums of relevance — Twitter, YouTube, Facebook & Instagram.

The majority of the world's online Financial transactions goes through an American aggregator/platform: Mastercard & Visa.

Should I talk about soft power?
You know already about Hollywood & the Music industry. Artists world over YEARN for their Grammies.

The US holds the most Nobel Laureates (A Swedish award) in Medicine, Chemistry, Physiology & Economics.

The US (TODAY) is the most preferred international study destination for University students.

These are some of what constitutes influence.

The US may eventually fail but it wouldn't necessarily be in you & my lifetime.


One more thing,

America is NOT in 500trillion $ debt. No country has that much.
The world's economy is less than $ 100 trillion.

Cheers.
grin U just a western bot. Am sure u can prove all dis by clicking on google? grin America is the greatest fraud I have ever seen. From Political to technological, financial etc believe wot u see in google at ur own peril. I earlier mentioned the moon landing, why didn’t u add it to their accomplishments? It was a comprehensive hoax. America never landed any man on d moon! They are full of pitiable lies. Nikola Tesla’s inventions were awarded to others! 9 Nobel prizes to other punks for a work dey didn’t do? Tesla sued Marconi the most painful one for him cos of the American Patient board’s open collaboration. He won, but only after he had died. EVERYTHING about America is LIES and they cap it now by pushing worthless currency on the world.

Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Gives His Coat To UAE President To Keep Warm (Photos, Video) by Krismas(m): 1:21pm On Oct 13, 2022
Asour:
True. Power is transient.

But they are the most ECONOMICAL influential NOW. Debating that would be laughable.

Economic influence = power nowadays.
Power isn't just brute force as it was in those days.

There's no such thing as Richest with countries.
Economic influence supersedes what you call rich.

The vast majority of Equipment that allowed the Saudis exploit their resources ARE Western developed. Now that's influence.
grin Then how do u explain, ur so call ECONOMIC INFLUENCES of about 40 western countries putting sanctions on only one country with no tangible results to show for it? U better wakeup. The west is living in a fool’s paradise. Thinking we still in the 40s. They are going to be shocked. America that is in over $500trillion debt, will be poorer than a 3rd country by the time d majority of economies flush the dollar down the sewage pipe
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Gives His Coat To UAE President To Keep Warm (Photos, Video) by Krismas(m): 12:49pm On Oct 13, 2022
Asour:
I'm not comparing colonialism.

I'm only stating that Colonialism in itself was a show of strength.

THEY have been powerful for long. It was a dog eat dog world then. It no longer a dog eat world (relatively) BUT America IS still the MOST influential country in the world today.

America (as imperfect as it is) is more trusted (secretly) I'm not talking of openly. Than the very NEW emerging 'World powers' in China & Russia.

The elite in those countries TRUST America for their children's Welfare than their own country.
grin Before the British dominance was Romans and before the Romans was the Hellen, and the Persians and so on. World domination is not forever. They were not first and won’t be last. They are no longer the richest and the most powerful. So, they should calmly remove themselves from the scene
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Gives His Coat To UAE President To Keep Warm (Photos, Video) by Krismas(m): 12:28pm On Oct 13, 2022
Asour:
The bolded answers your questions.

The west ($ & £) had the dominant currency PRIOR to your Breton woods conference.
AND THAT'S my point.
They WERE Dominant & are still ARE dominant.

Of course Colonialism is bad BUT every Nation had to show force before the 1900s. Even your (USS)Russia colonized others didn't they?

Why weren't they (Russians) as dominant?
grin I wish I understand wot u talking about. U comparing Russia’s colonial past with Britain? Was dat a joke? Anglo-America had enough gold almost a hundred years ago to guarantee their currency. Its not so anymore. Gold is the world currency. America has more dollar in circulation than she has gold is that not stagflation?
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Gives His Coat To UAE President To Keep Warm (Photos, Video) by Krismas(m): 12:08pm On Oct 13, 2022
Asour:
The problem with your argument is that BEFORE the WW2, the US($) & UK(£) already made 75% + of global reserves — PRIOR to 1940.

The US BECAME the world's largest economy before 1940.

If your Breton woods argument is true, why was the global reserve dominant currency a western one before 1940?
grin U busy pasting google at me again? LOL
America’s ascension was after WW2 1939-1945. Cos Europe had gone into bankruptcy. Due to colonialism UK at a time had the highest gold reserve in the world. So if the Anglo-America alliance during the war were significant reserve currencies, it’s understandable. Today, the story is much different. And nations generally want to determine afresh the basis for which their goods and services will be exchanged. Cos Western currency are fraudulent.
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