₦airaland Forum

tlann:
you are a mad guy i will never argue with you again you have no point idiot you are sick you need mental check up shetani akulambe uso kla asubuhi ukiamka huyu ni nani huyu

I only remind him how lazy he is and just let him go he's such a dunderhead to argue with

NAIROBI vs Lagos

samsobo24:
Nairobi tall building built by whites can excite only Kenyans.

Lagos is over developed than Nairobi comparing with Nairobi standard.

Lagos spreads its development all over like tentacles.

Does Nairobi even have the ego of reclaiming land.

Lekki,Ikoyi,Victoria island, Ikorodu ,Ikeja, Banana island are just too much

Abuja on the other hand beats Lagos in terms of modernity,serenity, top notch estates, world class estates etc.

Rural Lagos is almost like a city to Kenyans because of infrastructures like roads,street lights, bridges, road markings and bill board.

Lagos is almost completely urban with everywhere litered with modern shops and banks.

I laugh when Kenyans say we have only a CBD when we even have more than the current marina,VI,Ikeja,Lekki etc speaking in terms of Nairobi's shitty standard.

Almost everywhere can be almost called a cbd in lagos. Oshodi world class transport interchange,all bus terminal projects in Lagos,ultra modern markets continue to scatter all over the mainland.

Lagos has invested and still doing in empowering the youths in tech,training women and midwives, training artisans etc.

Kenyans research about Lagos, ask your countrymen and see for yourselves.

I say this with all sincerity that Nairobi is scrap comparing with Lagos.

You should praise your white masters for giving you something to compare with Lagos.

Is this what you're talking about?,

Everything you're talking about are just imaginary world,

Look at that slumpolis for a CBD,

Did you mention streetlights

tlann:
they don't exist

They're giant of Africa, they have larger ocean line/beach than Kenya,

Pictures don't lie

bantudra:
am not interested in kenya....you people disgust me now....

Situations and circumstances of your country may force to be interested, your country is headed in the wrong direction

Kazikazi:
Tanzania
Melia,Zanzibar

This is petty and negligible

bantudra:
and how did they landed in europe without papers....??

i still call bullllllshitttt....!!!!

How did your relatives landed in Kenya without papers? And when they're arrested and deported they die trying to come back

Kenya is your greener pastures, coil your tail between your legs

NairobiWalker:
King's distinction is tall but nowhere close to One Africa. The only residential tower in Nairobi taller than one Africa is LeMarc. One Africa is still bigger in floor area though.

Then where he lives will remain a mysterious world

bantudra:
stfu already....!!!!...

i knew many kenyans in europe that didnt had papers or kenyan women that prostituted their selfs in kenya to whites and somehow landed in europe....they still didnt gave them papers...!!!!...

bullllllllshittttt....!!!!!!!!.....

You're talking of Kenyans in Europe when the worse is happening to your fellow Nigerians in Kenya and other African countries

Iwantslavesgone:
Please stop disgcracing your starving lineage .

Kenyan Migrants Among Those Rescued From Mediterranean Sea

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tuko.co.ke/amp/7683-kenyan-migrants-among-those-rescued-from-mediterranean-sea.html

That's propaganda, in fact that link is known for rumour mongering

tlann:
did you see the video where you fellow Nigerians were drowning in Mediterranean sea

I've been watching one on BBC some minutes ago,

All of them were Nigerians, they've spent almost two weeks in the sea, some of them are already dead,
All women including female children are naked in a small yatch, they've been raped countless times...

All because of poverty back home, and still these Nigerian monikers have guts of calling themselves "giant"

bantudra:
and how can you know that kenyans were not among them too...??...

sooo,anybody that has black skin is automaticaly a nigerian now....??

Hehee you guy Kenyans don't trek to such hell of places, in fact it's the Libyans who are being deported from Kenya just like Nigerians

Iwantslavesgone:
Does that make una better than other African countries , not to talk of Nigeria?. First dominate the least starving list

You're ranting here ignoring the fact that your place is more shitty than ours

you're much more starving than us, don't tell bokoharam tales, that's still a human inflicted calamity, bcz of greed and foolishness...

With your population, how many acres do you own individually

tlann:
now that is slavery dying in the mediteranean sea to reach the white man land that is the definition of slavery nigerian president living in london because of ear infection that is the true definition of slavery so who is licking the whiteman ass here

These are the most hypocrite people ever existed, they think they've willingly stopped foreigners from their country, but the fact remains no one including the natives would ever wish to live in their shitty country...they rather die in foreign countries as slaves

Iwantslavesgone:
Nigerians are the richest and most influential blacks in the world, what are you?. A bunch of hungry runners . Kenya can never rub shoulders with us not in this lifetime , you are too poor and primitive . First get control of your father's land that the.kenyettas have freely given to themselves and settlers while you are relegated to the back to starve to death or occupy kibera and mathare. You are a disgrace to Africans. You hide your shame with nice buildings owned by foreigners thinking we will praise you cowards . If you had half the bravery, drive and industrious nature of a Nigerian you idiots would not be willing slaves and languishing in generational starvation.

Someone must have a very strong courage to argue with your kind of ignorance...

Why are you dying to live in Kenya then? Your relatives are suffering here living dogs life, ten men in 10/10room, being arrested at midnight almost everyday,

tlann:
ignorant fellow nobody is threaten by Nigeria there is nothing in Nigeria for people to fear Nigerians are criminals drug dealers yahoo boys that is why they are being deported across the world

This is how they're treated in Libya, South Africa and Kenya

NairobiWalker:
How will they occupy third fourth and fifth when we have Avic office (184m) and UAP (163m).

This is the list
1) Carlton Centre, 223m. SA
2) BritaTower, 200m. Kenya
3) Avic Tower1, 184m. Kenya
4) Ponte City, 173m. SA
5) UAP Tower, 163m Kenya
6) NECOM house 160m. Nigeria
7) PSPF Tower, 153m. TZ

But in coming few years it'll be like this...
1) Pinnacle Tower1, 314m. Kenya
2) Carlton Tower, 223m. SA
3) Pinnacle tower2, 213m. Kenya
4) Britam Tower, 200m. Kenya
5) Avic Tower1, 184m. Kenya

Iwantslavesgone:
Whether you like it or not, Nigeria leads Africa. We are the giant of Africa, have always been and will remain so forever. Keel on hating while we keep dominating you. You think your slave masters would rate naija in fairness when it's the only proud black country? . You idiots know nothing , Europeans will always fear our strength and influence. When they think of attacking any African progress , Nigeria is their first target. You are not even counted as a threat, even Zimbabwe, South Africa and Namibia matter before you. Rubbish aid dependant bastards .

You're a threat in terms of what? growing poverty, bokoharam, population or what?

You are exporting your backwardness, drug dealers and poverty to other countries, that's the threat we know from Nigeria...

NairobiWalker:
Do you even know which building we are talking about? Please, post us your One Place Africa.

Unless he lives in kings Distinction Apartments of which I'm not sure if it's taller than One Africa

NairobiWalker:
Forgive us.

gallivant:
Too many lies. All we want to see is the ministry of communications tower. It's that simple.

It's the one and only NECOM he's trying to multiply it by giving it different names

mtisTheQubit:
did you just call forgiveness a lady ..you are so mean to ladies

Calling a man a lady is very bad, I can imagine how Forgive us is feeling

forgiveness:
There is according to all the informations on ground. It's now left for me to personal see it and confirm it.

Why would I want cheap glory if it doesn't exist? Most of Nigeria's Skyscrappers have limited pictures and you hardly know their names.

Even at that, if I remove the it from the list, Lagos still has more skyscrapers than the whole of Kenya. That is the fact on ground.

Chest thumbing for nothing you always just can't prove your arguments

Kenyan roads

Kenya is poised to produce Africa’s most productive human capital in the medium term, a World Bank survey shows, buoyed by the country’s present deep investment in healthcare and child education.

The inaugural Human Capital Index (HCI) the World Bank published recently shows that Kenya ties with Algeria in offering the best education and health in the continent — factors that would make them churn out most productive workers by 2036.

Kenya scores 0.52 to rank 94 in the world out of the 157 countries ranked in the HCI that puts Singapore on top of the world with a score of 0.88. It beats large economies in Africa such as South Africa, Nigeria and Egypt.

The report comes barely a month after Bloomberg report ranked Kenyan immigrants working in the US as the third most skilled and industrious foreigners.

In the region, Tanzania scores 0.40 in the HCI at position 128 followed by Ethiopia, Uganda and Sudan with 0.38 at position 135, 137 and 139 respectively while Rwanda scores 0.37 at position 142.

The index is measured in terms of the productivity of the next generation of workers relative to the benchmark of complete education and full health. An economy in which the average worker achieves both full health and education potential will score a value of one on the index.

The study measures the consequences of neglecting investments in human capital in terms of the lost productivity of the next generation of workers.

“In countries with the lowest human capital investments today, our analysis suggests that the workforce of the future will only be one-third to one-half as productive as it could be if people enjoyed full health and received a high-quality education,” the report says.

The HCI survey shows that Kenya has made efforts in building the right foundations to churn out productive workers by the age of 18. Kenya has in the past decade been implementing various reforms aimed at improving the quality of education.

Key among them is funding of the free primary and day-secondary education. In addition, the government registered more technical and vocational education training (TVET) institutions to bridge skill gaps in the labour market.

The reforms have yielded some fruit with Economic Survey 2018 showing that total enrolment in pre-primary schools rose by 2.9 per cent to 3.29 million in 2017 compared to the previous year while enrolment in primary schools increased from 10.3 million in 2016 to 10.4 million in 2017.

In addition, enrolment in secondary schools grew by 4.1 per cent to 2.83 million in 2017.

As jobs become defined by more cognitive and analytical tasks, the World Bank cites Kenyan worker as having the ability to compete well.

“In Bolivia and Kenya, more than 40 per cent of workers using computers perform complex tasks that require advanced programming,” says the report.

"Indeed, the demand is growing for transferable higher-order cognitive skills such as logic, critical thinking, complex problem-solving, and reasoning.”

In health, the report observes that Kenya has made progress in making children survive from birth to school age. It notes that the death of any child is not only a tragedy but also a loss of human capital, which is never realised.

.....,

The World Bank study also shows that bureaucracies charged with implementing policies to build human capital often lack the capacity or the incentives to do so effectively.

Service delivery indicators survey the World Bank conducted in seven countries in sub-Saharan Africa, including Kenya found that, on average, three in 10 fourth-grade teachers had not mastered the language curriculum they were teaching.

“On a positive note, 94 per cent of Kenyan teachers had done so,” says the report that also ranks Kenyan doctors ahead of Nigeria.

“The surveys paint an equally mixed picture for healthcare facilities: About 80 per cent of Kenyan doctors could correctly diagnose a basic condition such as neonatal asphyxia, whereas less than 50 per cent of Nigerian doctors were able to do so.”

Kazikazi:
Just define the word lazy for me.I. can't understand when lazy people feeds the so called hardworking people

A lazy man's brain is normally obsessed with food 24/7

Kazikazi:
I wanted to talk about a big march which ended recently in kibera republic. I heard that the whole city was smelling armpits! Do you wanna argue?

All lazy people are already asleep, what are you waiting for, or you're even more lazier to sleep

genieluv:
First of all. Let me address the tone of your language. You sound so insultive. You need to stop that if we are going to get into any meaningful discussion to learn from each other.

*****You can see that I left this thread and nairaland as a whole for more than a year, this was because I noticed that this forum started turning me into what I wasn't.
I do not wish to tow that part again, hence please let us refrain from using insultive words on each other, thanks

>>>> Firstly, I have learnt something from your post, and that is 'I shouldn't just pass my judgement with the views of the Kenyans here alone'. I truly have to be in a Kenyan forum with thousands of Kenyans, for me to be able to pass my judgements on how Kenyans criticize their government. That is settled. So, I don't think I will ever ask or talk about Kenyans being so secretive about their political discussions or Kenyans being so optimistic about the progress of their government.

~~~~@ Your first paragraph.
Yeah, I know there was a lot of bigotry in views in my past here and perhaps I need to apologize for those. I do so. I really can't even remember everything I said here or the views I supported more than a year ago.

Some Nigerians on this thread have criticized and berated our government and country, praising Kenya at the same time, including I myself. However, I haven't seen any Kenyan do likewise. Then I wonder who truly shows more blind patriotism between Nigerians and Kenyans.

+*+*+*+ About the points you raised in the first paragraph, beginning with issues of slums. It first of all depends on what we define as slums. If Kibera or Makoko is the basic definition of slums, then truly believe me, Nigeria does not have such (excpet Makoko of course).
However, if the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in Brazil are regarded as slums, then Nigeria has slums, because before unbiased views, there is a very very big difference between what Kibera or Makoko looks like and what the favelas of Brazil look like.

------About skintone, Nigerians and Kenyans should be about the same skin tone. Nigerians may only have more lightskin people because of our population.
Another factor is media presence. For instance, the coastal swahilis and perhaps Somalis should have the lightest skintones in Kenya, but these people are under-represented in Kenyan media, while in Nigeria, the Igbos who tend to have the highest population of lightskinned people dominate Nigerian movie industry.
Kenyan marathon runners are some of the most famous Kenyan people which we all see on Tv and apparently, they are mostly nilotes which tend to be darker skinned than Bantus and others.
As black Africans, We can't really say one group is more good looking than the other cos beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.
••••••••One factor you must consider though is that some cultures tend to value personal grooming than others. Even you Kenyans here have sometime admitted that Nigerians give preference to grooming of looks and appearance. From my point of view, that seems very true! I have observed that Kenyans do not seem to have this grooming culture compared to that of Nigerians and Tanzanians. Perhaps this is the reason why I and some other Nigerians find Tanzanians to be more charming than Kenyans (these are our personal views only).

¤¤¤¤ For example, all Westerners accept the fact that Eastern European women are more beautiful than western European women (you can do some googling on this if you are not aware of the stereotype).
Now, How come this discrepancy when Europeans are of a common stock? This is simply because the wave of feminism did not hit hard on Eastern Europe. Most eastern European women do not have the same mentality with that of western Europe. They believe more in good looks and being very feminine in order to attract a rich man to get married to, while Western women are more of working hard to make their own money to become richer, hence do not give much attention to looks.

I like your reasoning, you're definitely much more exposed that these other Oga noisemakers

You're right about the complexion stereotypes, actually there's no any difference between Nigerians and Kenyans on that...

...those men who likes grooming themselves too much are lazy and weaklings to us

Kazikazi:
Let's talk about public transportation first...

You want to tell us about BRT...OK tell us

NairobiWalker:
I think we need to put this nonsense to rest.

That Dar thing is at the same rank as Mombasa, and it's the only city in a country of over 59m people like South Africa

Even Lagos is hell on earth, a city of 23m with 108compared to Nairobi's 4million population with 54

darfay:
Shame

Der asset worth more that of Kenya

That is obviously nonsense,

Dar has a population of almost 6m comparing to Nairobi 4m

Dar has a GDP of $10BB, Nairobi $45BB

Where are those assets when Nairobi beats it in everything positive, insfrustructure, real estate, number of billionaires

tlann:
it is still 200metres enda ulie mbali tulikataza tz wasiweke antenna kwa building zao ?

Antenna is paining this dude