₦airaland Forum

Tk4all:
lol

who can provide the funds for logistics if not the big wings? i'm supporting obi not because he is going to win o, i know it will be hard.

i'm supporting him to have peace of mind knowing i'm doing the right thing

True
I just hope voting Obi won’t help tinubu win

nameo:
You are right. It is quite simple: Obi cannot win without the Middle Belt votes. He not only needs them for the total number of votes but crucially in the quest to getting the rrquired 25% spread in order to win.

I really dont konw why discussuions have not started with Dogara and Co(except it is happening in the background). I know that the Middle Belt forum and some other MB groups are already openly supporting him.

As for money politics, he needs lots of it to win the elections. But am not worried about that. Money will come from everywhere once Obi/LP drops account. I however am opposed to vote buying. I find the whole idea of buying peoples vote neuseating and I detest it

Nobody is asking him to buy votes just just encourage people to campaign for you
In 2015 a man in kaduna bought data for guys just to campaign for Buhari and I know how many people he won over because of that

Tk4all:
1 real wahala, the rev fr campaign is a movement that can crush anything

2. obi need to spend, or at least buy people that can spend for him. this made me remember yesterday when i told a friend to bring the labour party cap for me. they brought two and people were all over me to get it to a point that i gave them all the caps. obi can take benue state easily unless fr alia instruct his supporters against it.

many people in my village don't even know obi till now, even for me to get posters na wahala. there is none in my village presently

You are confirming all I have said
Obi is only known on the towns, nobody knows him
In the villages
I was on call with my uncle, I asked him how the Champaign going on down there, he told me the are for pdp but they will lose to apc in the governorship election but presidential they are all voting for pdp
I asked him how about Labour Party, his reply was “same thing adc and other small parties “he knows who Obi is but no political presence to get him one vote

frank14011991:
God bless you.muslims are the majority in North Central,kogi,kwara, nassarawa and niger are Muslim dominated state

Only kwara and Niger oga

shakdav:
They will let the campaign start..

Let’s see

Tk4all:
Just imagine picking dogora, akume or baba lawal as vice if they want to fair, should we be having such discussion here? this people thinks we are foools.



i don't know what obi is doing sef, he should have just brought money and buy this heavy politicians and this election will be good as over

People keep saying the electoral law gives the voters power not big wings, I laugh because those voters are loyal to some big wings whether we like it or not

If no less than 8 big wings decamped to labour then no hope for labour and Obi

shakdav:
We will not relent our effort to fight for thr truth and say it, Muslims- Muslim ticket is a wayo and just to make us the christian in general be a second citizen in our Nation, if not the south south brother are just betraying their brother Pdp could have the best chance of Giving the christians a better way out, am Obidient in the movement and forever will rally round him. Waiting for the final meeting of the northern Christina forum to no the next direction of taking our vote to, Nigerian must progress weather they like it or not..

My brother, I don’t know what’s taking them this long

Tk4all:
I just thank god that ortom of benue state state is getting small sense now.

again, the apc governor aspirant will really cause confusion cos he looks like the best man for the job, i will personally vote him.

the problem is how apc will use him to get votes at the national level cos many are supporting the priest with his party and not the candidate.

@kyase, how do you think this will affect the election?

If fr Alia campaign for Tinubu, hmmm wahala go dey
But I have seen many say, they will vote labor then vote Apc in the governorship election, but these are people in town, Gboko to be precise
Now how about the people in the rural areas, where the winning votes use to come, they don’t know who Obi is or labour sef
There’s little individuals can do if you don’t give shishi
Buhari was also a no shishi man, but Amaechi and others spent for him to win

Tk4all:
It's really pathetic for us angom, akume is now putting things in place in favour of tinubu but i just pray he fails. this is someone that single handedly pull a large number of votes for apc in the last two elections, but what did the core north gave him? minister for special duties. they even promise him senate president but nothing came out, sgf came and they still avoid him cos he was a christian.

i use to find it difficult to know the reason why this our muslimm brothers find it hard to trust us but expect us to trust and support them

We have paid our dues with our northern brothers but when it’s their turn to return the Favour, they are telling us about competency or votes but we say no more

shakdav:
Mr Kyase thanks for the write up, North is knw for persecution of christian by all means once they get their hands on anything, by the way I quote the Apc vp candidate saying " they will run and inclusive government' but they forgot that the government has chose to place some people as second class citizens on it own, the issue if I must say is not about the northern christian is about christianity general in nigeria be you south, west, east, north, let joins hands together to fight this dirty and insane act, it is a test to knw whether it will work or not, KADUNA tested it and it works, and still in play, but by the grace of God it will resist in 2023 in that same KADUNA, in Nigeria it will not work, I have been a fan of Tinubu movement that Ticket of same Religion show that Tinubu himself does not that fact that north don't believe in other people rather than themselves, the point is that he made the wrong choice and that will lead he to Defeat by God grace we cannot accommodat another Turkish in nigeria

You have said it all

Nyamuri:
Doma, umaisha, kokona, wamba

by conquest?

nameo:
Yes, Obi has a path to winning the Presidency next year.

There is a reason virtually everyone or party that have dismissed him even some weeks ago, now see the election as a 3 horse race.

For obi to win, needs to target the northern Christians votes, he needs to lobby them all, but currently he’s doing something else, he should contact Babachir and Dogara ASAP before Atiku win them over, that will guarantee him 25% he needs in those Northern states, that’s if he can win the Christians votes in the south, we are ready to give bulk votes this time

Obi also needs to give shishi if he wants to win
That rubbish talk about no shishi is bullocks

Even the US buy votes systematically

Tk4all:
Jeez! so you are even a tiv man. angom listen


me and you know the events that leads to that unfortunate even at anyiin that time, so lets not open that case now.



i'm not supporting obi because he is going to win the elections. i'm supporting him for prosperity sake, i.e i will not be a part of anything that will kill my people.

lastly, we have been having security issues for long even before the apc came in power but you will also agree that the situation is worse now

Now you are made a pure point
If you read some of my comments here, I said if we Christians are serious, we should cast all our votes to a single candidate and our leaders are yet to give us direction
I have always been a rebel to our leaders but this time, who ever they asked us to vote for, that’s who I will vote for, minus Tinubu of course

Who would that be, Atiku or Obi

frank14011991:
you can accuse tinubu of anything but you can never accuse of being an Islamic fanatic,he has helped so many chritians into powerful position the likes of osibanjo,fayemi, ambode without discrimination.he married a Christian for more than 40years without converting her, instead she became a deacon.tinubu only picked shettima to win northern votes not because of hatred for christians

Okay we’ll see how that northern votes will get him the presidency

Shey he underrated us, we’ll see how it ends

Tk4all:
Don't mind that guy, nassarawa is a christian state. the population of muslimss in that state is not up to 35% that you generously gave them

I just did plus and minus for that
They thought because some area speak Hausa that made them Muslims

Tk4all:
I supported atiku in 2019 but i don't like his statements recently concerning that anti grazing law. any presidency that will continue to support this herdsmenn should not be allowed near aso rock cos it will spell doom for some of us in benue villages.

my reasons for supporting obi is because i'm 100% sure that he will not support the killing of christians and farmers. i want to be alive even if i'm suffering sir, i can't support someone who MAY still support his brothers to finish us in future.

my question again, are you truly from benue state?

Let me ask you two questions
1: can Obi win as things stands rn?
2: Jonathan was president when my home town was scorched Anyii by the herdsmen
I remember when I came for holiday in Gboko finding our cousins at home, running away from herdsmen there, so my question now is, how would Obi do differently from what GEJ did

Nyamuri:
I'm am currently in nasarawa too, for kyase to say Muslim are not up to 35% is just delusional and pathetic

Apart from Lafia, Awe and keffi
Where can you find Muslims
Mind you, we have a lot of Christians in those areas

candidtalk:
I called you a bigot because, whatever your past actions, religion should never be important enough to decide how you vote especially because I am sure you're likely a Nigerian youth not older than Yayha Bello.

Bro, I am well-travelled and know that it is a disgrace that religion still continues to be a factor for youths in Nigerian politics. See for yourself below to note precisely what I am talking about and why you should not be patting yourself on the back when you should realize you need to evolve in comparison to others.

We cannot be justifying backwardness in Nigeria, especially as youths, and expecting Nigeria to become like the UK whereas the youths there are about ideas rather than religious worship that needs to be relegated to the background per politics and Public administration of Nigeria.

Youths are de-emphasising the influence of religion in public and political life worldwide and we are emphasising it in Nigeria. Why do you wish to swim against the tide that has evolved the most successful nations in the world yet you continue to expect Nigeria has a right to aspire to be like them? How? Why?

Brethren, it is not rocket science Nigeria is failing. We reject modern practices and innovation to stick with retrogression. You're guilty of that , as a youth, more horribly than Buhari who is nearly 80 years old.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2012/03/06/secularism-britain

That’s the same thing Turkish said centuries ago but now we can see the effects

Nyamuri:
Kyase, my amidable worthy ally, I really appreciate ur acumen, wisdom and awareness as a norther Christian. It's very unfortunate that we depart henceforth by taking a different path

My question:
1-If the presidential candidate from the south is a Muslim, what's wrong if we the north insist on a Muslim since we are the majority? The south made their choice, why can't we make ours

2- the combination had nothing to do with religious factor, but how to gain votes.. you and I know there is no famous Christian northerner with political clout that can garner votes for Tinubu

3- both Tinubu and shettima are not known to discriminate along religion line, even soome pastor's attested to this.. why the fair

4- south kd, Benue, plateau and nasarawa Christians all voted for PDP.. so there is nothing Tinubu will lose from here

But I thought the north is one, so we the Christians can vote for a Muslim because of northern ambitions but the Muslims can vote for a Christian in the spirit of brotherhood, I don’t have issue with a Muslim just for you to know

Tk4all:
Kyase, if you are from benue state like i use to think, pls don't tell me that you left Tinubu for Atiku, support peter obi for president or just stay in the tinubu camp plsssss.

For many of us in benue, we are taking this coming election as a battle for survival cos what we face for the past 8years is not something we pray for, and if another mistake happens, we may not live to tell the story. pls kyase, support peter obi or stay in tinubu camp forever

Tell me why obi is better than Atiku, the same man he told us is the best thing that will happen to Nigeria in 2019

In as much as you will want Obi to win, you just need to tell yourself the truth, can he win the election as things stands?

Anyways Atiku is far different from Buhari far far

EmekaMD:
but Atiku is a capitalist also? I think capitalism encourages hardwork but i respect your right to disagree

As for his supporters. I take issues with some of them too, but how can you tell people how not to react when the government have neglected them for long. Now they see a glimer of hope and the same establishment politicians are telling them to shout up and sit down? common
Besides Buharis supporters did worse in 2015 but heaven did not fall.

Obi is a good man and he means well. that is all that should matter. Anybody can become his supporter, including you and you have your right to react to issues the way you want it. its your fundamental human right.

Actually Buhari supporters only insulted pdp leaderships and not her supporters

Obama won the election because the black sold him to the whites as the next best thing and not by insult
More reasons why Trump lost his re-election, but I get your point, you guys should guide them

Obi on the other hand, needs to stop all these interviews, this is Nigeria, you win election when people assume your capabilities and not the other way round
Buhari won because of that assumption, just let your supporters do the right campaign for you

You were here in 2015, Buhari hardly campaigned for himself before his supporters sold him the people
The 1 naira to 1 dollar was not his campaign, neither is the fuel for 65 naira per litre, that’s the power of assumption
Hope you get my point

frank14011991:
in 2015 tanko almakura and Yusuf igabi shared the Muslim votes still yet labaran maku couldn't win the election despite getting votes from christians

If Labaran contested under PDP in 2015, he would’ve won that election
He introduced apga months to the election and did really good

post=116801927:
Plateau, Nasarawa, Benue, Taraba, FCT have already started sending strong massage, Plateau rally home of APC campaign chairman strongly send massage to them, that was why Adams started attacking Peter Obi in presence of APC heavy weight members, Obi now is a big threat to them, never see it coming, and it popularity is growing every single minute, that is why APC and PDP are firing smear campaign against Obi from all cylinders, both big parties have united against Obi because the see him as a big threat that will change OLD ORDER

Well it’s high time we have bulk votes to vote against the “North” if they don’t want to carry us along
We’ve been divided within ourselves but thank God our elders and leaders have started acting now
Every northern agenda will be canceled with our votes even if we don’t succeed in 2023 the message will be passed to anyone that will want to belittle us for anything

It’s high time we leave the Arewa consultive forum for them and face ours

Bomboiy:
Why do you hate capitalism?

What are his supporters doing differently from Tinubu's supporters?

You are asking me why I hate capitalism? Really

His supporters haul insult on anyone not supporting him
Tinubu supporters never attacked me for not supporting him, even during the primaries, for once nobody called me names for not supporting tinubu
But you see those obi guys, hmm you know yourself
Only few of you guys are objective but the rest na rubbish

candidtalk:
You are a bigot. Religion should not matter to you, let alone be able to influence how you vote, if you're not a bigot.

It is even worse if you're under 40.

I supported Buhari over Jonathan in 2015
In 2011 I supported Ribadu over Jonathan

How am I a bigot
In fact if I’m anything, it should be foolish
Leaving my own to support another

So calm down, severally on this forum I was tag a Muslim asslicker

I supported Amaechi for the ticket
In the south east I was in for Umahi

stonemasonn:
Kyase, blame goes to the northern Christians for their inability of producing a popular political figure, not assholes like Lalong, or grasscutters like Babachir. All the top northern politicians I know are corrupt, clueless and failures. Most of them are even converting to Islam to gain political favors..tueh.

But, Ganduje is not corrupt or shetimma is not corrupt right?
Only the Christian politicians are corrupt abi

Dogara was there and northern Christians were very much ready this time to cast bulk votes for apc just to get the Vp that will represent us for once

EmekaMD:
may I ask why you despise Obi so much? if you don’t mind

Two things
1: Obi is a capitalist
2: his supporters

frank14011991:
David ombugado has been contesting since 2019. I have many of my relatives in nassarawa

Just watch out for 2023

frank14011991:
nassarawa is a Muslim state.it will be very difficult for a Christian to win election in nassarawa

The Muslims in Nassarawa are not more than 35% boss
I know Nassarawa like back of my palm

Salvador1:
is PDP guber candidate a Christian

Yes
David

frank14011991:
Jonathan won plateau, nassarawa,taraba,southern kaduna, southern part of adamawa, plateau.the only Christian dominated state buhari won in 2015 is benue and he lost it in 2019

Nass voted Buhari
Buhari won there for the first time

TheNiceGuy:
As if having a northern Christian as President will change anything.

It's your choice.

Those who Will vote him will still vote him

Nope, that’s where you missed it
I personally and many others I know one on one would’ve voted for Tinubu had it been he picked a Christian from the north
Tinubu lost more votes than he’ll gain by picking another Muslim