twind111:
This issue is of different categorie
1 AJUNMOBI O KAN TAANU.. It's a Yoruba proverb , for someone to be your close relative doesn't guarantee that he or she will help you, some prefer to face their immediate family I mean kids and wife only.

2 PAST FAMILY HISTORY.. many rich family member didn't get help too when they are struggling. So you expect them to be of help too when they eventually arrive.

3 FAMILY ISSUE.. Take for instant you get a loan for a family member and he or she refuse to pay even when they can. If you persuade them too much they will say are we not family member.

4 MOST WICKED ENEMY SOMETIMES COME FROM THE FAMILY.. I mean spiritually. As a Nigerian you should understand this better.E.G. how can only you build 3 houses when we have none WAHALA. At your age I was still in form 4 and you say you need money for school fee in a university abeg wait till next year.e.t.c

5 ONE RICH MAN IN A POOR FAMILY.. when you have only just one rich man or just a few of them in a family what do you expect. how many do you think they can help .. when the pressure is too much they will distance themselves from family..

NOTE: it's only those sent by God that can help.. And if you receive help from a family member please don't misuse the opportunity it may hinder help of another family member.. If you didn't receive help from any family member now please don't have the wicked mindset that you too will not help .

Live Is Based On Microcosm What Happen In Side Our Homes Is Just A Fractal Form Of The Whole Country Almost Everyone Is Selfish That Is WHY Nigeria Is Failing

tintingz:
If Qur'an is not a book of science why then are you using science to confirm it truth?

Let's the Qur'an stays a book of fairytales.

Coming from someone that said the earth and heaven separated in big bang.

when did I say that please and who told you Quran is a book of fairytale
I believe in all I use in the Quran Subhannallah I regret having a conversation with a person like you initially you claim to be literate while you're not Quran is a word of Allah a book of ayaat every sane thinking person that follows our discussion will know that you are Deliberately rejecting the truth message May Allah guide you to the right path Farewell.

tintingz:


Kindly, answer my question.

صم بكم عمى فهم لا ير جعون

Deaf, dumb and blind they will nor return to the path. Quran 2:18

I can see you are one of the people that Allah mention in the Quran may Allah protect me and my family and my Muslim brothers and sisters from such habit of yours aameen.

Blatant lies by a ret*rded brain

tintingz:


We have discover that there are specie that are asexual, the Qur'an saying everything has a pair is wrong, yes?

but do you know that unisexual have distinct elements of both male and female think and this was found later but not known before.

tintingz:


Is killing gays good?

Is punishing adultery like stoning to death and beating good?

Give reasons why it's justifiable?

I can see some part of modern civilization is based on atheism

atheism is one of the factors that is retarding your brain and thinking capability.

tintingz:


What a dishonest post

After your flaws was pointed out which you agree, you brought out another flaws.

Again, the ancient people that wrote and believed in the Qur'an have no idea of the big bang nor the cosmology, that verse is obviously talking about the cloud smoke in the sky not galaxies formation. Gas and dust collapse to form the stars(galaxy) not smoke and Earth coming together like the verse said, there's no earth to join with any gas smoke during galaxy formation. Again flawed!

The Qur'an portray a knowledge of an ancient person who's Ignorant of the phenomena around.

Trying to hijack scientific theories to the Qur'an claims is ridiculous, stop it.

look Quran is not a book of science but a book of ayaat u have to take note please

and I can see you know nothing about your science please try and expand your thinking capacity.

tintingz:


You said EVERYTHING has a gender-pair which is false as there are asexual species. Just accept you and your prophet are ignorant and wrong.

There's nothing wrong being Ignorant and learning new things.

don't forget the science doesn't know that plants are of male and female it was later found out an English wise man says with time everything is possible, go up triumph and sky rocket the sky will always be your limit You will one day justify that Quran is always right. inshaaAllah.

hotwax:
It happened to me when I was studying Quran. A friend told me to be reading Quran to understand it.

I started attending Islamic preachings..before I knew it, I was becoming a muslim. I woke up and left before its too late.

They know how to indoctrinate and brainwash people. Anyways I studied the quran without converting. It made me understand it flaws.

There are many flaws in the quran just like bible.

Its a lesson to the world that "running from one religion to another is like running from APC to PDP..they came from the same source, same ideology"

I know no matter smart you are you are not smart than Garry Miller that accepted Islam

tintingz:
WTF is this?

Water has gender.

Oh they give birth to ice water, right?



You're a deluded Muslim.

I'm sure some muslims will be ashamed of the nonsense you just said above.

Anyways your Allah lied, the writer of your fairy book is ignorant, not everything has a pair, there are asexual species. Just Google them.

Hmm Prophet Muhammad S A W is always right cuz his statement has been justified today. He says in a hadith "من قال اناليس هو في ليس هو " who ever claims to be someone then he is not .

You call me ignorant previously while I thought you are a reservoir of knowledge I thought you knew oceanography while ur statement shows you don't know.

I did not say there is no asexual species yes we have it but soon u will justify the beautiful Quranic verse

don't forget previously science doesn't know that plant have male and female gender it was later found out but the verse the information was in the Quran for many years but just because they hate Islam they refuse to accept it even though the Muslim scientist accept that they didn't reject it just becare full Allah is really supreme

tintingz:


The Qur'an plagiarized other ancient mythical stories like the Sumerian, Jews, Greeks etc there's nothing special about it. It just a book full of mythologies, fairytales, fallacies, nonsense and speech from a psychopathic misogyny sadist.

No book will be plagiarized and keep on existing and remain untouched
so this shows Quran is not plagiarized it is a complete, standard and full of eloquent Arabic language as I told you before go and ask the Arabian linguist that is there any book much blessed with eloquent speech than Quran in the history of the whole Arabia they will surely tell you Quran is the best.

tintingz:


Killing apostates
Killing gays
Punishing adulterers
Keeping slaves

Is definition of justice in your Qur'an?

I know you are aware of the story of people of Sodom do you know what Allah does to them for being gay if you know that then why are you mobilizing them and why are you trying to mobilize adultery

tintingz:


Not everything has a pair.

I hope your see the "asexual" reproduction above or you just ignored that part?

Do you know even the water we have on earth are of two types ocean water (salt water) is of male gender while fresh water is of Female gender and don't worry a time will come when science will justify that verse for people like you but as for we Muslims we already believe that cuz Allah doesn't lie he has told us a lot things Fourteen Hundred years ago and we have seen it clearly he is all knowing and he is supreme.

tintingz:


You're ignorant. If you had read other creation myths you would know the idea of heaven and Earth being together and separated is older than the Qur'an, various mythologies mentioned of this heaven and Earth separation.

You think the people in ancient days imagine the separation of heaven and Earth as Big bang? NO!

It's actually the heaven and Earth separating like the sky moved up.

Secondly, there's no heaven and Earth in the big bang, earth has not even formed to be separated from anything, earth is just a very tiny dust in the galaxy. See the Flawed!

Here are some other myths of heaven and Earth separation before the Qur'an exist.

In the ancient Greek mythology, Cronus separated heaven from Earth.


- In ancient Yoruba mythology.
Olorun the God of heaven, orishas and all that exist separated heaven from earth.


- In the Jewish mythology, Yahweh separated heaven from earth.
The book of Genesis (Genesis 1:26-27).

- In Hindu creation mythology, Vishnu created the universe and separated heaven and earth.

Creation myths of ancient Mesopotamia typically begin with the separation of heaven and earth, giving rise to a three-story universe that includes heaven above, earth in the middle, and the underworld below.


https://www.nairaland.com/5095109/myths-quran#76925214

Visit the link above to see more similar mythologies.

Dear sir insult is not a solution but point and here are some points again to convince you .You said that there is no heaven and earth in Big Bang Theory yes I agree but Allah is explaining it clearly that is why you see heaven and earth in it but as always Quran is standard it will always be for ever .
there was an initial gaseous mass before the creation of galaxies
Scientist say that before the galaxies in the universe were formed, celestial matter was initially in the form of gaseous matter in short huge gaseous matter or cloud were present before the formation of the galaxies. to describe initial celestial matter, the word 'smoke' is more appropriate than gas. the following Quranic verse refers to this state of the universe by the word Dhukhan which means smoke.


"Moreover, he comprehended in his design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: he said to it and to the earth come ye together, willingly or unwillingy. ' they said : 'we do come (together) in willing obedience. al Quran 41:11

Again this fact is a corollary to the Big Bang and was not known to the Arab during the time of Prophet Muhammad S A W .what then, could have been the source of this knowledge?

use your upstairs and think!

plant are made of pairs male and female

" And he sent down water from the sky with it have we produce diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others " Quran 20:53

everything is made of pairs
"And of everything we have created pairs " 51:49


"Glory to Allah who created in pairs all things that the earth produces as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge " 36:36

Allah is supreme he has already tell us everything he is all knowing.

tintingz:


1. You committed God of the gaps fallacy and appealing to Ignorance fallacy.

The fallacy = Because we don't know soul or fully understand the universe therefore it's God or "God did it", you fill your Ignorance (the gap) with God. You didn't consider other possibilities.

2. There are many religions with their God that talk about how the universe was created, so what makes you think your religion version of the universe story is the true?

okay here are my points the creation of the universe is explained by astrophysics in a widely accepted phenomenon popularly known as the Big Bang Theory it is supported by observational and experimental data gathered by astronomers for decades according to the Big Bang the whole universe was initially one big mass (primary Nebula ).then there was a Big Bang (secondary separation) which resulted in the formation of galaxies this then divided to form stars, planets, the sun the moon etc the origin of the the universe was unique and the probability of it occurring by chance is zero .
the Quran contain the following verses regarding the origin of the universe

"Do not the unbelievers see that the heaven and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation) before we clove them asunder? Quran 21:30

the striking congruence between Quranic verse and the Big Bang is inescapable! how could a book which first appeared in the desert of Arabia 1400 years ago, contain this profound scientific truth?. I know Plato And other ancient Greek scholars don't know this but it Was later found in the 20 th century I hope this suffix u this is just a little from Miracle of Allah .

Quran is not a book of science but a book of ayaat

usermane:
Why do Muslims Push Miracles of Qur'an?

If you do a Google search, you won't find shortage of Muslim websites devoted to 'scientific and numerical miracles of Qur'an'. Now, pushing scientific miracles of scriptures is not unique to Muslims. But, it is only Muslims that still adamantly pursue such fallacy with much fervor and conviction.

I can see you don't know Quran but I will like you to buy a book called the Quran and modern science compatible or incompatible by Dr. Zakir naik I promise you you will see the miracle of Quran everything is inside this book wallah Quran is from God it is a true standard message of Allah Allah has already explained to us everything.

Allah is supreme

Harvard University professors made a research that Quran is the best for justice.

https://theislamicinformation.com/harvard-university-quote-quran-justice/

tintingz:
Lol, I find the challenge ridiculous, I mean what's so special about it that it likes can't be produce.

The Quran is even poorly written with very simple words.

Hey you what do you know about Quran go and ask the Arabian linguist that is there any book much blessed with eloquent speech like Quran they tell you Quran is the best ever https://theislamicinformation.com/harvard-university-quote-quran-justice/

Allah is supreme

thank you for the video

may Allah increase your imaan try as fast as possible to visit your parents respect them make sure you stand firm on your imaan may your visit to them be the trigger of them to accept Allah jalla wa azza aammeen.

please stop criticizing Islam ask politely and ur question will be answered inshaaAllah let's us live in peace .

Quranic is a true words of Allah Quran is the only book that has never changed or been touched A lot of unbelievers have criticize Quran but the end up failing Allah will always protect this book biznihi and Allah has given a challenge to the whole mankind to produce a surah like that of the Quran and if they fail then they should prepare for the fire which it fuel is rock and man wallahi this challenge is there in the Quran go on and do it and if you fail Allah will surely punish you with that that fire in which it fuel is rock and man ur only alternative is to repent and have the mercy of Allah your time is not off u still have time to return to Allah I have done my job Cuz I delivered the message to you .

Read Quran 2:23-24 this is the number of the verse read it and know Allah is all-knowing.

Islam is not the problem to global peace Islam is the only solution to our problems islam teaches peace and if you want to know the peace embedded in Islam go and study Islam under a Muslim school inshaaAllah you will know that all the things that the enemies of Allah are telling you are all lies we are based on respecting anyone if you want to see the good quality of a leader go and read the history of Muhammad S A W, Ababakr R A, Umar R A, Uthman R A, Ali R A I promise you if you read the history of those people you will know that Islam is a blessing ascended from Allah to man kind Wallahi I am telling you the truth just read their history from a Muslim source.

O you brothers in Islam don't show your anger Against anyone that bounce in to this forum unless if he abuse our beloved Prophet S A W if he does such thing then we shall report him to law for punishment but if they ask anything related to Islam answer then based on kitaab and sunna try all your possible best defend the religion of Allah where ever you are and make sure u be a good ambassador of Islam and may Allah help us from shaitan and don't forget to only show ur anger when someone abuse Muhammad S A W he is our leader .

In Islam all Muslims from different perspective are Muslims we are brothers we perform hajj together, salaat together and no one can cluster off the strong relationship between us that was glued up with emaan A Yoruba and igbo Muslims are brothers to we Hausa/fulani/kanuri from the north and we mingle as one ummah travel together to meet our brothers around the world the real teachings is peace.

Yes you can pray in any language Allah is all know don't mind the enemies of Allah that are telling lies you can in any language but you encourage to learn Arabic it will help you in understanding the religion emaan will strike your heart and I am encouraging any Muslim to stand up firmly and learn Arabic.

Allah has already told us that all the prophet from Adam A S down to Muhammad S A W are Muslims they follow Allah alone they believe none has the right to be worship but he only do that verse in Quran in 10:94 is talking about the original scriptures that was revealed directly to those prophet before Muhammad S A W and the surah in the Quran 113 is enough to explain everything that Allah is really supreme and the surah Muhammad is enough to show all mankind that Muhammad is the best of man kind a Muslim that doesn't believe in Jesus A S then he is not a Muslim if you want to know Quran then u are free to meet any Muslim scholar the gate is open they will teach you Islam much more clearly Quran is the best book ever and also a guide to the whole mankind it is full of wisdom it teach peace so you can can meet any Muslim scholar so that he will deliver the blessings in it to you those that are lying on the social media are nothing but illiterate they are telling you lies a real Muslim is always peaceful he will explain everything to you and we Muslims don't criticize anyone we introduce Islam to u just because we don't want you to perish in hell.
And Allah knows the best .

محمد خير خلك الله صلي الله عليه وسلم
The best of all creatures the leader of all creatures S A W.