helinues:




Chinedu, oya drop that goal post and answer my questions

Awolowo, Falae, Ribadu etc are victims of yoruba voters serial loss at the polls.

I saw omenka promoting osibande candidature, the same osinbade lost his own polling unit in 2015? You guys are laughable, you backstab yourselves yet want to be trusted by outsiders.

helinues:


And how many presidential elections have SE as a region contested not to talk of winning?

Cowards Dem...

If you like drown yourself in your emotional and utopian idealism that is bereft of pragmatism and realities, that's your bowl of ewedu.
Historical records show yoruba voters as serial losers, your votes couldn't save Awo, Falae, Ribadu when they failed severally in their quest to become president.

It was so frustating one of these candidate had to drink some cheap poison according to tales from the grapevine.

seanfer:


At the bolded. You were so wrong. The PDP zoned the ticket to the south. Not all the BOT Members supported OBJ. The SW choose to field only OBJ so that the votes won’t be shared by another SW.
No party has ever micro zoned the party ticket to a zone.
We can still remember the last PDP chairman was zoned to the South and some people said it is not micro zone to the SW who is yet to produce a national chairman. So the party can’t micro zone the ticket to a region.

The north brought out OBJ out of prison and together with SE and SS made him president. The SW did not vote for OBJ.

Bottom line is that you've taken your share, the rest of the country won't gift you another presidency on a platter when there are other interests to take care of and stabilize the polity.

If you do your usual agidi in 2023, you'll placed where your rightfully belong- in the dustbins of opposition politics, even if it means us in the East making some sacrifices. We are ready to do so.

Inventing words like 'microzoning' in your usual yoruba sleazy manner in order try to defeat a credible and logical argument against your greed won't save you in 2023.

You've had your turn, step aside and wait for next time.

helinues:


You failed in all ramifications... .

You are still a baby in politics...

And you are a geriatic in politics because your yoruba journalists claimed you are sophisticated, even when you failed in 89% of presidential elections conducted since 1959. No be so? Lol... Ndi yorobba sef!

seanfer:


Attached is the result of the PDP primary in 1999.
Please always do little research.

Mr man, stop deceiving yourself.

Before the PDP primaries, the Board of trustees meet and decide the winner before hand and pass the message to the delegate voters, the presidential primaries are most times a formality to reduce the risk of litigations. OBJ emerged that way.

Buhari also emerges as APC flagbearer that way in 2015, even a dog on streets of oshogbo knew he was going to emerge but primaries are constitutional and have to hold.

Stop trying to fool yourself with that piece of garbage you are driving at. Whoever the BOT endorses emerges. We are all in this country and know things play out during presidential elections. Stop your typical yoruba grandstanding.

helinues:


Did SW contest against SS in 2011?

It seems the year 2011 never existed in you guys calendar...

You guys are simply cowards who can't stand on their own apart from forcing attachee

Thank for the correction, an innocent oversight. I have corrected the year.
Fact is, you got the message I passed. SW won't be president in 2023. That's unrealistic for now, till other take their turn in the zoning arrangement.

helinues:


What are you people scared of exactly?

That you can't face Yoruba on the ballot abi what's all this threatening all about?

Oga let me make it very clear to you.

Whatever made sure that SW didn't contest with SS in 2011 and also made sure that SS and SE didn't contest with SW in 1999 will ensure that there will be NEVER be SE vs SW situation. You will not be allowed to smuggle yourself into aso rock with power of incumbency.

PDP will wait and study the situation, if SW emerges in APC by hook or crook, it means zoning is now suspended or dead, you will be facing the North in PDP with the strong backing of SE/SS zones to wrest power from you. That's the consensus around here. There is no sugarcoating it. We are realists not 'utopian idealists' like you yorubas.

omenka:
[s]Please you people should carry out your threat to vote the North. It is your right. You can't threaten people into supporting you, that is a very foolish strategy- no one is scared of you or any other ethnic group for that matter.

I don't know about others, but, as for me and my house, if God preserves our lives and we see that day, we are voting Osinbajo[/s].

Your saddistic views are irrelevant to me, you are not very bright as you pose if you can't see that it is virtually impossible for osinbade or any yoruba to be president in 2023. When did yoruba start winning elections in the politicosphere. Go and hit your books on political history.

The yoruba have taken their turn as president and VP according to the zoning principle. 2023 is not for yoruba. The other southern regions will not allow it happen.
Run along.

Another cry over spilt milk from ndi yoruba.

Why did he take the easy way out to the great beyond instead of waiting to be paid in full for his evils under the banner of one nigeria.

Jajaslim:
[s]You’re correct, Apc can not give Igbo ticket, because it will be difficult for Igbo to win South West votes and also voting for an Igbo Apc candidate in the PDP dominated Niger delta will be extremely difficult for us. The igbo can only win South East and can not win South South or South West. That is why the igbos should support Amaechi now.

But we in the South South will give Rotimi Amaechi our 100% votes during presidential election even though he is APC because he is our brother even though he fought against Jonathan because Politics is all about a game of interest[/s].

Even a neonate knows you a dirty 'We SS' ewedu-guzzling yoruba man trying to play spoiler. You registered another another username just few weeks ago, mr minorityopinion from oshogbo.

Any idiot with half a brain can smell you out.

SE has it then. Babu SW, they've taken their turn. They'll should wait in line if the North must also wait.

PDP will wait for APC to produce their candidate, it the zoning agreement is not fulfilled to the later 't' and a SWner emerges, then PDP should field a notherner, because zoning has collapsed.

Those who think they can keep trying to taunting and mocking the East by hijacking the presidency won't have it easy this time.

The presidency was 'gifted' to the SW in 1999, that's why we all allowed them to produce the candidates of the two major parties, after the several failures of Awo, MKO et al. to become president.

Same should be done to the SE in 2023, or power can remain in the north. It's simple.

Yebosola:




If u like bet your life, it will NEVER b igbo, ur vote is as useless as Kanu himself ,take it to the bank.

Will it be yoruba?

Charleys:
Another Igbo mumu button presser.

And all igbos will fall for this

Fd up people

Did he also press your Afonja mumu button?

jagorinho:

I do not know but you seem like a lively and funny person. let me know what you have against Tinubu, by your " assertion" of being an expert in politics, you should know he has the right to contest, so let me know your grievances against him.

I have no personal grievance against tinubu. We can all grandstand about 'moving nigeria forward, leadership qualities' etc, but the truth is that Nigeria of potpourri of personal, tribal and regional interests playing out at the different levels.

Tinubu's personal and (by extension) regional interest is unsellable outside his areas of influence. Let's be realistic, it doesn't matter what I want or you want, his chances are not bright. I'll tell you why, he is seen as a regionial leader.

Go back to your books and check your history, no regional leader of southern extraction have EVER made it to aso rock. Ojukwu, Awo, Falae were seen as regional leaders, even if they win their regions, they'll lose at national level.
Zik and OBJ enjoyed cross-regional acceptability and made it to the presidency as southerners. These are realities that we must face.

Currently the only person that comes close as a southerner is OUK, like OBJ he is not very much liked by his own regional base but enjoy acceptability in other regions and in the north, and sometimes that's all that matters as we saw in OBJ's case.

Don't take my word for it, do your own research.

jagorinho:

if the book is in its last chapter with your current state of mind then that book is a tragedy waiting to happen......seems anybody can write books these days.

You don't have to accept it, when we launch, you can read and critique whichever way you want. Like my Prof would say 'No book, research or article will be accepted by 100% of the readers, but always show evidential reasoning when you put pen to paper, that's all that matter'.

jagorinho:

lol, you are a clown!!! reading newspapers from birth does not make you an expert in politics, you just shot yourself in the foot, it seems you are on a self destruct mode and by the way, nothing breeds ignorance like an Igbo newspaper joint.

I only 'shot myself' in your eyes. Reading newspapers, articles, biographies, editorials from childhood, made me a 'bank' of information on history and politics. It gave me an insight to the aetiology of political events and happenstances.

All my political predictions have come to pass with more than 92% accuracy including Buhari's presidency. I keep the records.

That's why I tell you with great conviction that the next president won't be yoruba. It is realism not emotionalism.

jagorinho:

....with the non sense you have been posting to defile this thread, writing a book should be the last thing on your agenda, when you have a clear mind ( less emotional) and you cured your victim mentality ( associated with most Igbos) then maybe you can start to think about writing a book.

The book is in it's last chapters my friend.

As I pointed out in one of the chapters, telling a yorubaman the bitter truth may automatically make him your enemy even when you mean well for him. They are not very good with realism, but are generally 'utopian idealist' good at romanticizing with sweetened falsehoods in the face of obvious alternative truisms and factoids.

These are no lies my friend.

Nice one... During the days of Awolowo as editor of Daily times newspaper and minister he would have stiffled this piece of news because Okoloko is not yoruba but a minority.

Simbrixton:
u have no knowledge of politics

And you do because you are yoruba and your journalists told you for decades that you are 'sophisticated in politics' than other tribes. No be so?

Simbrixton:
u have no knowledge of politics

And you do?

Tflex01:



Lol... Your books will sell in the SE only. Even SS have grown above your kind of politics.

It will sell nationally with the title I have adopted. 'Ethno-mental configuration of major Nigeria tribe vis-a-vis politics, socio-economics, religion and otherwise'.

The title is still open to recasting. Everyone insterested in studying Nigeria and African politicswill wanna read not internet riff-raffs. It will sell on Amazon, goodreads and Ebay. This won't be my first publication so you are not talking to a neonate inkslinger.

Tflex01:


I can see you are an Igbo guy. You have no idea about politics. Hatred has eaten up the rational mind you suppose to have in politics.

Happy Sunday!

I have more knowledge about politics in my fingernail than in your entire being. Someone who started reading newspapers at the age of 5 and discussing politics at the age 11 can't be as daft as you are. I still have old copies TNT newspapers, Concorde newspapers, daily times etc in my library. I've been reading and writting all my life for a living and have 2 Doctorates. Check my post history.

It's not hatred, it is the bitter truth which yorubas always dodge embracing but still remains unwavering.

Tflex01:


Lie!

By 9.00 pm same day, announcement came from Professor Henry Nwosu, the ... By Sunday June 13, the results started trickling in from the electronic media and ...

Source..

https://m.facebook.com/kufotv/posts/573643630230476

There is no tribe as sleazy, inglorious and ungrateful as you yoruba. You are always scheming to paint other tribes as bad and ineffectual while deceiving yourself by wearing borrowed garbs of glory, always seeking to steal or downplay glory of the others.

You have mentally conditioned yourself for decades that others must never promote themselves but you alone. Definitely why you feel like going bunkers when you 'Igbo amaka' in the early years of the internet.

Of course the 'stubborn' Igbo kept hammering on 'Igbo amaka' till you had no choice but to embrace it albeit grudgingly.

I'm writing a book on ethno-mental conditioning of Nigerian tribes vis-a-vis politics, religion and otherwise. It will be a good read.

Simbrixton:
abiola won against tofa out of the generosity of his heart you igbos should quit this victim complex when it comes to politics the whole Nigeria knows the most greedy tribe in the country

Oga, Abiola can be said to have cross-regional acceptability unlike your lord jagaban who pay thugs to forment violence in areas where he is non-popular and destined to lose. Even at that, he never became president and nigeria didn't burn. It was his fate and yours to lose on June 12.

Simbrixton:
produce your own abiola that would employ yorubas and fulani and would be loved by all Nigerians at least for a start let igbos start employing other Nigerians in there company let's see if public view wont change the whole Nigeria know u people very well

Check my previous post.

Haywhysat:



How about MKO?

MKO never became president, and his election was controversial. The only person who summoned courage to announce the result in which he was presumed winner by an Igbo man was Prof. Humphrey Nwosu the NEC chairman. Others ran for their lives even MKO abiola was hiding like a coward for months and refused to honour Abacha's invite till the soldiers came for him.

That same courageous Prof. Nwosu is always sidelined and forgotten whenever yorubas tell their version of the June 12 story because he is Igbo.

MKO never officially became president, so you didn't win. Shikena.

Esseite:


Lol.. why didnt the South meet on an open field in 2015 against Jonathan, why did the SW pick vice while fronting the North, yet opposed to the SE picking Vice in 2023 and opting for a Northerner aswell?

The same way the East cant dictate the presidency coming to it on a platter, is same way the South cant dictate the presidency being its turn.

Yes, two wrongs dont make a right definitely, but once bitten twice shy.

You dey mind that halfwitted revisionist..
yorubas are the only ones who have ever been gifted the presidency in this country and it happened in 1999 when the BOT of the two biggest parties allowed them to produce presidential candidates.

The primaries were just formalities to avoid intra-party post-election litigations, Board of trustees of PDP already agree OBJ was going to be given the ticket. This was a man who they saw became meekly and turned born again in prison, preaching to inmates while on Abacha's death row.

yorubas will come here and open their mouths to try to fool others, believing we all are idiots who have forgotten history.

Tflex01:


It was never gifted to a Yoruba man.

Oga it was gifted to you yoruba. Stop your revisionism.

Without 1999, there was nothing you could have done except fighting the military with your OPC and getting slaughtered on per second billing. You have never had the numbers to make any yorubaman president. Ask Awolowo and co.

Yebosola:





Which peace Tinubu has taken from SE, Is presidency a gift?when the man was building bridges, SE was Atikulating after Biafra or death, I beg stop this hallucination, let SE face SW from their PDP, nobody is dashing anybody presidency, let's meet at the open field.

Yes...presidency is a gift. If it wasn't there was no way a yoruba would have ever been president with your measly and loserly votes est. 1959.

It was gifted to yorubas in 1999 even when you are minority losers who could hardly win elections for Awolowo, Falae etc. It won't happen again in the future until you wean yourself off your greed.

There will be a president in 2023 but it won't be a yorubaman. I can bet my last kobo on that.You don't have the numbers and you have taken your turn.

So na Babachir the grass-cutting ole buruku be the next Thiefnubuu fanboy?

Ewedu yorubas will hate Amaechi from today.